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    hope pro 2 question

    So, I got my 08 Spot built up and dirty.

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    I'm running a Pro 2 rear hub. The hub appears to be loose - there is some play when I grab the tire and push/pull to sideload the wheel - but in looking over the maintenance instructions, I don't see any obvious way to tighten this thing up.

    any ideas?

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    ill assume yer runnin a brand new qr rear. did ya get a qr hub or did someone mess up and the axle is way bigger than the skewer as in its a 12mm. i know, im reaching.

    next question: did ya mess with it at all? maybe ya got the end caps reversed or forgot a piece.

    check the axle? a busted axle can act like that. dead bearings too. even a busted hub shell. look it over. its easy to pull apart if yer careful and not... ummmm... challenged.

    maybe ya got a bad hub too. sounds odd to me but ya never know.

    did ya check the rear end? a loose or broken rear is often mistaken for a hub issue. i think its our brains way of ignorin a busted frame.
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    I assume it is a new hub?? If it is a used hub there can be play develop in the sealed bearings over time... if this is the case you have to buy replacement sealed bearings.

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    ill assume yer runnin a brand new hub... (blah, blah, blah) ...either that or maybe check for dead bearings.

    its a joke. get it?
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    My Pro 2 rear hub does the same thing (about a mm or 2 I guess) and has been like that for 3 years. It has not seemed to get any worse. I spoke to Hope about it a while ago and they said a little bit of play is not a problem. I was a little leary about it since its the only hub I have that is not tight but it has not been a problem. There are no adjustments for bearing preload or anything else. All parts are press fit into the hub.

    Someone else brought this up in the Wheel and Tire forum recently. I believe he was going to contact Hope and will hopefully reply back with any information.

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    you cant be serious! i would not be a happy boy if my brand new hubs develop 2mm of slop and hope tells me its not a problem. currently my rear pro 2 is a bit draggy but im thinkin thatll break in. time will tell but time has stopped till march or april. fockin winter!
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    yep, it is a brand new hub.

    maybe it is the frame. I just dropped it into my ss frame, and there is no play - but, the rotor pushes hard against the brake on the ss, so that may be helping it.

    it is very little play - just enough to notice a 'tick' when you push it back and forth, so I suppose that could be coming from the linkage? I'm not used to suspension bikes, so I don't know what to expect there.

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    ahhhh... suspect links to work loose, specially when new. thats the nature of h/ware. if every last bolt is up to torque, start lookin at the bits that may have developed a tiny linkage of their own.

    yer rotor theory may have merit. either remove or adjust the caliper on yer ss and check it out again. theres yer control group. good luck man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy
    So, I got my 08 Spot built up and dirty.

    Stoked!

    I'm running a Pro 2 rear hub. The hub appears to be loose - there is some play when I grab the tire and push/pull to sideload the wheel - but in looking over the maintenance instructions, I don't see any obvious way to tighten this thing up.

    any ideas?
    Having had a few of those apart, there is not a preload adjustment like on Hadleys. The bearings just sit in the hub shell and are finished with the end caps. Check to make sure the endcaps are fully seated, and then possibly measure your rear dropout.

    It is not unusual to have a slight amount of play with Pro IIs. QR's anyway.

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    I don't have play with mine. I'm suspecting bearing tolerances. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I don't think there should be that much of a difference, however.

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    [SIZE="7"]Hope Hubs[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="4"]Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.[/SIZE]

    a new slogan? thatll sell bike parts. truth is, the hope folks have been very kind to me lately and im lokin fwd to tryin out their stuff after all the positive reviews around here.
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    I rebult my Hope 2's recently. I noticed there was play when in the frame. I took her apart again and found that a bearing was not properly seated in the hubshell... Make sure all your bearings are pressed in completely...

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    I had a similar issue and it turned out the be the rear pivots.

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    Hmmm i've had several ProII hubs and play would not be acceptable and i DOUBT hope would agree that play is "OK"?

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    My Hope TA front does the same. It is bearing/shell tolerances.

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    grundy's description is pretty good - a tick when you push it. Perhaps a mm or 2 measured at the rim is not the best description. Enel's reason matches the reason Hope gave me.

    And, yes, I was not happy. Not really happy still but it works and hasn't caused any problems. I've spoke to Hope and bike shops and they all shrugged it off. I've searched the crap out of the forums and found nothing of help, except that some other people have the same issue.

    Enel, did you find any resolution to the tolerance or is it considered OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatgerm

    Enel, did you find any resolution to the tolerance or is it considered OK?
    When I pulled my end caps off the front to investigate why the play in a new wheel, I found that one of the bearings would just fall out. Discussed with Hope, since I think this was the source of the play, it should press fit. They offered to send me a new hub shell, bu I don't really want to re-lace the wheel, or pay for the relace, and I don't notice it at all while riding, so I let it slide.

    If it comes time to rebuild, I will contact them again.

    This is my only set of Hopes. They are decent, but I don't think I would buy them again. Mainly the noise is horrendous.

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    Thanks for the update. I've pulled mine apart and nothing jumps out at me. Actually, I cannot replicate the play unless its mounted to the bike so its not horrendously loose. Kinda bummed with Hope's response but it hasn't been a problem and the wheel still rolls smoooooth. I'd hate to go thru the whole process only to find out it was not really necessary. I've done that before on other parts. I'm trying not to be as anal as usual....

    I do plan to take care of this again before I have my wheel rebuilt. Perhaps I'll try contacting them again. The hub rolls nicely. The frehub is a piece of cake to rebuild. It is stupid loud but I have gotton somewhat used to it though I've been riding my other bike with a quieter hub and it is nice in that regard.

    Did you contact Hope USA or UK?

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    Can you put the rear wheel on another frame (preferably a hardtail for obvious reasons) to check again for play just to eliminate one possible culprit?
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Can you put the rear wheel on another frame (preferably a hardtail for obvious reasons) to check again for play just to eliminate one possible culprit?
    is there a toyota in here?
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    Well, if you guys go by my DIY on them, you can read the fact that some time into ownership, when the hub was relatively new, I tore into it because there was some slight play that vanished after putting the hub back together.

    Maybe it's a normal break in thing, I don't know.

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    I havent tried it but i have read you can quiet the rear hub with grease, this may be b0ll0x but i dont know as it dosent bother me in the slightest - maybe your not going fast enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Can you put the rear wheel on another frame (preferably a hardtail for obvious reasons) to check again for play just to eliminate one possible culprit?

    actually, I meant to do the opposite - pull a wheel out of my hardtail and put in the Spot to see if it makes the same 'tick', which would implicate the linkage. I tried the Hope wheel in my hardtail but the rotor cause some problems... I didn't think at the time to throw it in there backwards.

    Unfortunately, I have limited wrenching time and burned it up tracking down the cause of a ghost shifting issue. It turned out that I'd cut a piece of derailleur housing too short; nice to get that fixed.

    Spot ride #2 tonight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy
    I tried the Hope wheel in my hardtail but the rotor cause some problems... I didn't think at the time to throw it in there backwards.
    Why wouldn't you just take the rotor off if all you intend to do is wiggle the wheel side to side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Why wouldn't you just take the rotor off if all you intend to do is wiggle the wheel side to side?
    because I had limited time and the wheel is rideable. I spent my wrenching time solving problems that would have kept me off the dirt.

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