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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    This forum needs one!

    I just plunked down on a replacement for my 2009 Flux.

    There's got to be others out there to get the ball rolling.

    Pics to come!

    EDIT. After more than a year on the Flux - I traded for Burner. Thread there comparing the two.

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    What a fun bike. I bought this mostly for my son, who'll race it in the SoCal High School league the next couple of years. He really likes it -- he's faster, handling tech stuff better, and his back doesn't hurt any more.

    I stole it for a couple of local rides -- the pictures are from the end of the Brown Mt. trail last weekend -- and it surprised me how well it handles our trails. I sliced minutes off a couple long climbs -- it pedals very efficiently. It didn't slow me down on the slice and dice descents either. Stable, precise, really nice.

    Here's the current spec, reusing parts off his old bike:

    Frame Size & Color: Large, Raw
    Rear Shock: Fox CTD, no Kashima
    Fork: Fox 32 Float CTD, 120 mm
    Brakes: Avid Elixir
    Shifters: SRAM X9 9-speed
    Cranks: SRAM X7
    Chainguide: None
    Front Derailleur: SRAM X9
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X9
    Pedals: Time ATAC usually -- Shimano PD A530s drilled and pinned in the pix
    Stem: Truvative Stylo 60mm
    Handlebar: Truvative Stylo
    Seatpost: Banshee take-off
    Saddle: Felt
    Bottom Bracket: GXP
    Chainring: 22, 32, 44, mix of SRAM and Shimano
    Cassette: SRAM 980, 11-34
    Headset: Cane Creek 40
    Grips: SoCal colors!
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Racing Ralph, 2.2
    Front Rim: Stan's Arch
    Front Hub: DT Swiss, 15QR
    Rear Tire: Schwalbe Racing Ralph, 2.2
    Rear Rim: Stan's Arch
    Rear Hub: DT Swiss, 142X12

    Weight: ???

    Future changes: We'll be replacing stuff that breaks, like the rings. Might go from 9 to 10 speed at some point, but we'll keep the triple.

    Nice bike DT!!!

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Here's what I got thus far.

    XL frame. Polished

    Fox talas 34

    Chris King black inset

    Chris king black hubs

    Hope Evo M4 brakes. Black

    Stan's crest rims. Black

    Reusing parts off my current flux: Thomson x4 stem , carbon bars, xo shifters, derailleurs and race face cranks, chris king bottom bracket. black.


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    Dang need some sunglasses!! Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatgerm View Post
    Dang need some sunglasses!! Looks great!
    Oops. Looks like the I got V4, not M4 brakes. Hope these things arent overkill!

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    That polished aluminum is wicked! Can't wait to see the final build on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southacres View Post
    That polished aluminum is wicked! Can't wait to see the final build on it.
    Thanks. I'm hoping to build something that spans the gap between my current Flux and Foes FXR.

    I'm selling both bikes and building this thing to be my "one bike." Atleast for the time being.
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    I'm subscribed... this bike is going to be beautiful.

    I'm still on a 2008 TNT Flux, which remains one of the best bikes I've ridden and owned. However, Outerbike sold me on the need for a 27.5 120mm trailbike.

    It'll go down to the wire between the Flux and the 5010C. I wish the stays were a hair shorter on the Turner, as the 5010C was a bit more playful. That said, I'm sold on the DW link and can't say enough about Turner CS and quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWfreeride View Post
    I'm subscribed... this bike is going to be beautiful.

    I'm still on a 2008 TNT Flux, which remains one of the best bikes I've ridden and owned. However, Outerbike sold me on the need for a 27.5 120mm trailbike.

    It'll go down to the wire between the Flux and the 5010C. I wish the stays were a hair shorter on the Turner, as the 5010C was a bit more playful. That said, I'm sold on the DW link and can't say enough about Turner CS and quality.
    yah, the Solo looks like a great bike. That's sort of what I'm shooting for - just out of DW and aluminum!
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    NWfreeride---one plus to the Turner Flux is the external bottom bracket. I also have a 2008 Turner Flux (TNT suspension) and put a Chris King bottom bracket in it that's so easy to service with all the rain/mud in WA. I love my bike, but, I too, am looking at some larger wheels.

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    That shiny frame looks goooood, how did you get that sparky look?

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    Subscribed. Glad this thread is starting to pick up steam.
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    Nice!!! You won't be disappointed. And a 34 fork? Not a bad choice, 32's have always been a bit flexy.

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Yah, 34. Not yet sure of final travel configuration on it. I might modify it to be 120-140. Or I might leave it stock.

    Fox says modifying the travel is easy peasy.
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    [QUOTE=ajax247;10836190]
    Weight: ???

    Can't wait on the weight. What's it weigh?

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    Subscribing.

    IHB - Looks good. Probably won't need that sticky TALAS. 120 or 130 on the 34 chassis sound like a good A-C height. Looking forward to the final build and photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Subscribing.

    IHB - Looks good. Probably won't need that sticky TALAS. 120 or 130 on the 34 chassis sound like a good A-C height. Looking forward to the final build and photos.
    I just couldnt decide which fork to get, so atleast this way I can test all the different travel options out. If I decide on one, I can convert the fork to a float - at the travel I like.

    Or maybe I'll like the talas, who knows?

    And hopefully this info will help other Flux owners. Would love to see more Flux 3.0 builds!
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    nice build so far....I've been eyeballing the V3............drive-train?

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    I am a Belgian rider. Here is my third Flux (after the 2005 HL & 2009 DW Link...) that I received by the end of september.

    Frame Size & Color: Large, Raw
    Rear Shock: Fox CTD, with Kashima
    Fork: Fox 32 Float CTD, 120 mm
    Brakes: Shimano XT 160
    Shifters: SRAM Gripshift X0 9-speed
    Cranks: Race Face Next (triple with inner & medium rings from Rotor)
    Front Derailleur: SRAM X9
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X0
    Pedals: Crankbro' Eggbeater
    Stem: Race Face Turbine 90mm
    Handlebar: Race Face Next Rizer
    Seatpost: Race Face Next
    Saddle: WTB Devo
    Bottom Bracket: Shimano XT
    Cassette: SRAM 980, 11-34
    Headset: Cane Creek 40
    Grips: Lizard Skins Lock-on shorty
    Tires: Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.1
    Rims: Stan's Arch EX
    Hubs: Hope Pro red adonized
    Weight: 25.8 lb (with pedals)

    Future changes: probably 1x10 speed.

    In a few words: IN-CRE-DI-BLE! This new Flux is far beyond the (both) previous models that I owned.
    This new Flux is more stiffer, nervous and fast than the former ones. It has a better pedaling response too: while riding in the uphill sections (in the wood but also on the roads) I said to myself: waow, DT just created the first bike with electric assistance... wich works without any electric assistance.
    In the downhill, this Flux marries the best of the 2005 model (the stability) and the 2009 model (wich was very nimble). Its lenghtened wheelbase, its 27.5 wheels and its 120 mm suspensions make it a better descender.
    In brief, Turner did not simply put wheels of 27.5 on the former Flux, but he took advantage of this change of size of wheels to improve completly the functioning of the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    In the downhill, this Flux marries the best of the 2005 model (the stability) and the 2009 model (wich was very nimble). Its lenghtened wheelbase, its 27.5 wheels and its 120 mm suspensions make it a better descender.
    Nice looking Flux! Have you measured the wheelbase on your large? The 46" listed on the website seems incredibly long.

    I had an '05 and a '10 as well, two of the most fun (and fastest!) bikes I've owned. Would love to swing a leg over this latest version, but on paper it looks like it might give up a bit too much (for me) nimbleness to the earlier versions.

    Obviously some of that is unavoidable with bigger wheels, more travel, and slacker angles; and of course a certain degree is probably even desirable for many riders. It just seems like there could be "too much of a good thing" going on in this case, at least for what I'd want a Flux to do.
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    Dude - going to be a beaut, for sure. The polished is awesome. Very tempting upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    Dude - going to be a beaut, for sure. The polished is awesome. Very tempting upgrade.
    Update on the Fox Talas 34!

    If you guys want to do this - you should really buy a 2014 model, not a 2013 - like I did!

    The sales guy at Fox was confused. But thankfully they are taking care of me.

    If you buy the 2014 Talas, you can make a simple change to detune it to 120/140.

    If you buy the 2013, you have to replace the whole Talas system.

    I'll have more details when the kit ships.
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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Slowest build thread ever...that Obamacare site will probably be working before we see your Flux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Castigador View Post
    Slowest build thread ever...that Obamacare site will probably be working before we see your Flux.
    That's why it's called a build "thread," and not a build "post!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Castigador View Post
    Slowest build thread ever...that Obamacare site will probably be working before we see your Flux.
    With website deadline met, Obamacare scrutiny increases - CNN.com

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    I still need to convert the CK hubs to through axle. Build the wheels. Rebuild and modify the fork, etc etc. so I gotta lotta work to do!
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    This has what to do with building a Turner Flux?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder View Post
    This has what to do with building a Turner Flux?
    "Flux 3.0 Build Thread
    Slowest build thread ever...that Obamacare site will probably be working before we see your Flux."
    Posted by Castigador a couple of posts above

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    Quote Originally Posted by doccoraje View Post
    "Flux 3.0 Build Thread
    Slowest build thread ever...that Obamacare site will probably be working before we see your Flux."
    Posted by Castigador a couple of posts above
    I'm offended!
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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Finally getting this build going in earnest. I think I finally got all the kinks worked out and have what I need.

    The bike shop ordered me the wrong spokes, Chris King sent me the wrong parts, the headset recommended for this frame doesnt actually fit and Fox sold me the wrong fork.

    But now I've got my wheels built, CK hubs converted to through axle, have the right headset (as well as the wrong one) and have new internals for the fork to get it down to 120/140.

    Once the baby goes down tonight, I'll be able to start hanging parts!


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    Man, this is just like Christmas...

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Mrs. IHB is a saint to let you build that in the kitchen.

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    It's 20 degrees in my garage!

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    Things have really come a long way when both ends of the Flux are thru-axles.

    Don't listen to the haters - I still haven't built up my 2010 Flux - The OC website has nothing on us.

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    nice!

    personally i wish the frame was compatible with a piggy back shock. I was seriously contemplating getting one and building it up as a trail slayer, but i don't fancy a fox shock nor CC offerings. Oh well. It is still one really freakingly nice frame. I found the last flux to be really nice built up with a 130mm fork and an 1.5 reducer set up front - but sadly i'm not that keen to throw that much at a bike right now. Still have my trusted commuter Flux - a bike i am claiming i will never sell - and my superb 5 spot. I'm trying my hardest not to buy a burner right now...

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Getting there. Stan's Arch EX are truly painful to mount tires to.

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    Looking good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireLikeIYA View Post
    Looking good!
    havent modded the fork yet. It's still sitting up there at 150m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    havent modded the fork yet. It's still sitting up there at 150m.
    Did the '14 Talas internals come with everything to make the fork a 140/120? Do you have the part numbers? I picked up a 2013 Talas not too long ago and I am interested in doing the same.
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    They added spacers at fox and shipped it out ready to go. I'll check what the part numbers are and post pics before I install.
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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

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    Bike looks great! Is it polished aluminum or chrome? Will you be able to keep it that shiny going forward? I'll be interested in hearing how you like it over time compared to your Flux 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southacres View Post
    Bike looks great! Is it polished aluminum or chrome? Will you be able to keep it that shiny going forward? I'll be interested in hearing how you like it over time compared to your Flux 2009.
    It's ball burnished aluminum. I think it does have some kind of protective layer/clear anodization or something. This is the same finish as the limited edition Burner.

    The shakedown ride I did today was a quick 10 miles with some steep fireroad climbs and steep, loamy singletrack descents.

    The bike is amazing. My times on the climbing and descending were faster than on either of my previous bikes.

    I have been riding a 6.5" travel Foes FXR and 4" Flux. I built this new Flux to be my "one bike."

    So far, I am absolutely grinning ear to ear. This bike is so fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    It's ball burnished aluminum. I think it does have some kind of protective layer/clear anodization or something. This is the same finish as the limited edition Burner.
    How did you get that finish? Was it special order? I don't see it on their web site.

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    It was my density*/luck.

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    A great build there iHeart!
    Nice to see a descent width bar being installed for a change. Flux's rock with bars over 710mm IMO!

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    Great looking building... Love the bigger fork and wide bars; this is the type of flux dreams are made of. Or at least my dreams. Props to you sir.

    What's the final weight on it, and where can I get the 'one less specialized' sticker from?

    Looking forward to more ride reports and would love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the 2009 Flux.

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    Anyone got a real world weight on the small Flux? Maybe youse could post a pic hanging on a scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWfreeride View Post
    Great looking building... Love the bigger fork and wide bars; this is the type of flux dreams are made of. Or at least my dreams. Props to you sir.

    What's the final weight on it, and where can I get the 'one less specialized' sticker from?

    Looking forward to more ride reports and would love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the 2009 Flux.
    It was 28.5 pounds without pedals - so it's a bit over 29.

    I took it on another ride today. Lots of twisty singletrack, with some technical bits, rough downhills and steep climbs.

    I was riding behind another guy on a Nomad on one rocky descent and the bike felt about as good as that Nomad probably did.

    For only 4.7" in back and 5.2" in front, it sure feels like more.

    The larger wheels roll really well. Overall the bike rides like a Cadillac. It's just so smooth.

    On the descends it's really confidence inspiring. On the climbs, it just goes. I really dont feel like I'm giving up much on the climbs over my 2009 DW Flux.

    But this bike downhills like a 6" travel bike. I got into multiple two wheels drifts today and the bike was stable.

    I've got a Moab trip coming up in March and just might bring this instead of renting a longer travel bike.

    Seems like it could handle Downieville easily, too.

    Having a ton of fun on the new Flux!
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    The polished frame is beautiful, it's hard to tell it's that freaking gorgeous on Turner's website. I've been going back and forth with myself between Flux/Burner vs Heckler/Bantam as my next bike. After seeing the polished frame I'm not sure how I could pass the Turner's up, although I'm not even sure I would need this much bike in S Fla. Great job on the Flux, do you mind giving a ball park figure on the build cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue426 View Post
    The polished frame is beautiful, it's hard to tell it's that freaking gorgeous on Turner's website. I've been going back and forth with myself between Flux/Burner vs Heckler/Bantam as my next bike. After seeing the polished frame I'm not sure how I could pass the Turner's up, although I'm not even sure I would need this much bike in S Fla. Great job on the Flux, do you mind giving a ball park figure on the build cost?
    Thanks. Seems like if you're considering the new Heckler - that the new Flux would be a good match as well.

    The turner will pedal and descend way better.

    I really dont want to think about how much I spent.

    I did re-use my hubs (converted from QR to through axle), bottom bracket, bars, cranks, shifters and rear derrailler. But it was still a lot of money.
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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Info on converting 34 talas to a 120x140 fork. A few of you have asked how to do this.

    it's better to start with a 2014 fork - as all you will have to do is add the spacers.

    if you start with a 2013 fork, you have to replace to whole talas assembly.

    This is what I bought.

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    This is the new - 2014 talas cartridge with spacers - you see them just under the top cap. The new talas is made to be modified.
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    Also note that the new talas cartridge is a one peice assemble - top to bottom. This makes it much simple to install/remove.
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    The old version is a two peice cartridge - and it also require those spacers and clips to hold it in the fork. because the new version is one peice, and attaches to the top and the bottom, it doesnt require these spacers and such.
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    I havent ridden it yet - but I immediately noticed it was smoother and returned all the way back to full extension by itself. The previous version didnt.

    of course I just did a fork overhaul and lubed up everything. The seals were totally dry. So this could account for a lot of the additional suppleness.

    Hope this helps!
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    The polished frame is sweet!

    You said the headset recommended doesn't actually fit. What Chris King headset does fit the Flux? I have an Inset7 on the way and now I'm hoping <fingers xed> that it is the right one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconNation View Post
    The polished frame is sweet!

    You said the headset recommended doesn't actually fit. What Chris King headset does fit the Flux? I have an Inset7 on the way and now I'm hoping <fingers xed> that it is the right one.
    I probably just dont know all the new standards well enough.

    I got the inset 7 - but I think you have to specify heat tube ID. I dont really know.

    So I have a CK inset 7, lying around that doesnt fit the flux.
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    CK Inset 7 is the correct headset for a 44mm ID with a tapered fork. That's what I have on my 2012 Spot, pretty sure Turner has kept the 44mm head tube.
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    Is it possible you received a headset that was mislabeled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjkitt View Post
    CK Inset 7 is the correct headset for a 44mm ID with a tapered fork. That's what I have on my 2012 Spot, pretty sure Turner has kept the 44mm head tube.
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    Is it possible you received a headset that was mislabeled?

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    I thought you might like it! Just an all around fun bike to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    I probably just dont know all the new standards well enough.

    I got the inset 7 - but I think you have to specify heat tube ID. I dont really know.

    So I have a CK inset 7, lying around that doesnt fit the flux.
    BTW, beautiful bike!
    Hope you get it sorted out...CK makes nice stuff, but if it won't fit it becomes just an expensive paperweight, which is a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    Info on converting 34 talas to a 120x140 fork. A few of you have asked how to do this.
    Thanks for posting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconNation View Post
    The polished frame is sweet!
    That polished stove top is almost more sweet!

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Just want to show what this bike has done to my riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    Just want to show what this bike has done to my riding.

    This bike is amazing.
    Love it or hate it - Strava is very useful and great fun IMO, and it's always good to see the gold cups coming up. Looking good there iheartbicycles...

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    You're actually getting fast on that bike! I'll be looking into the Flux now.. Maybe then I might be able to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanopatoni View Post
    Love it or hate it - Strava is very useful and great fun IMO, and it's always good to see the gold cups coming up. Looking good there iheartbicycles...

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    Yah, I know. But it's hard to tell if it just feels like you're going faster, or if you're actually going faster. So having a measurement is good.

    I'll stop gushing over my new bike now... :-)
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    I appreciate the information on this thread. I just ordered one half an hour ago, so I will get to stare at yours until mine comes!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doccoraje View Post
    How did you get that finish? Was it special order? I don't see it on their web site.
    I asked about the polishing when I ordered mine. It is the same price as the anodizing, which I think is cheap since it is so much work! It is not cleared over though, so there will be maintenance and upkeep on it, so I skipped it and went with powder coat.

    PS... I called and talked to Dave when I was ordering it. Really nice guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snopro440 View Post
    PS... I called and talked to Dave when I was ordering it. Really nice guy...
    That is part of the extras you get when you deal with Turner!!

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    Re: Correct headset

    I just got my 27.5 Flux built up as well...(will post pix after return from Christmas trip to FLA, when I will actually be able to ride the bike!).

    A lightweight, moderate cost, non-POS headset was the hardest part to find for the build. I gave up the plan of saving any weight there and went with Turner's recommendation. Aside from the King Inset 7, I felt the best option for me was the one Turner spec'd: Cane Creek 40 Series ZS44/28.6/H8/K Short Cover Top and 40 Series EC44/40/H12/K Bottom. There are 110 Series versions of these as well.

    Pix and report on the bike after I actually get to ride it on a trail, which just doesn't happen in Ohio Valley freezing rain & winter slop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewatchtech View Post
    I just got my 27.5 Flux built up as well...(will post pix after return from Christmas trip to FLA, when I will actually be able to ride the bike!).

    A lightweight, moderate cost, non-POS headset was the hardest part to find for the build. I gave up the plan of saving any weight here and went with Turner's recommendation. Aside from the King Inset 7, I felt the best option for me was the one Turner spec'd: Cane Creek 40 Series ZS44/28.6/H8/K Short Cover Top and 40 Series EC44/40/H12/K Bottom. There are 110 Series versions of these as well.

    Pix and report on the bike after I actually get to ride it on a trail, which just doesn't happen in Ohio Valley freezing rain & winter slop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
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    IHB - Looks good. Probably won't need that sticky TALAS. 120 or 130 on the 34 chassis sound like a good A-C height. Looking forward to the final build and photos.
    Dude, I've only owned 2 TALAS's - this one and a 2008 36 TALAS.

    The new TALAS is WAY better. It's super buttery and doesnt have that compression damping feel of earlier talas's. The fork feels great.

    I've been leaving it in the 120m setting for all around stuff and only putting it at 140 for steep downhills.

    At 140m it feels tall - but once you drop in, the bike feels balanced and very stable. And very fast.

    I've seen people doing a similar mod on revelations - making them 120x140, using the air piston from Reba's (if I remember correctly). The revelations are probably a good 1/2 - 3/4 pounds lighter than the TALAS.
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    What is your axle to crown on the fox you are using?
    thanks

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    Nice build. I too look at the geo on the turner and see how it is a bit lower and longer than even a 5010 and wonder if it would be quick enough handling for what I want. But then again, if it were my money I would have put an SR Suntour Axon Werks 120mm fork on there (same price as a TALAS), Pacenti CL25 rims (maybe TL28s if I know I'm gonna be rough), and Magura brakes. But I lean very XC race. I wonder if the lower headtube and kenimatics make that much difference to the handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazclrint View Post
    Nice build. I too look at the geo on the turner and see how it is a bit lower and longer than even a 5010 and wonder if it would be quick enough handling for what I want. But then again, if it were my money I would have put an SR Suntour Axon Werks 120mm fork on there (same price as a TALAS), Pacenti CL25 rims (maybe TL28s if I know I'm gonna be rough), and Magura brakes. But I lean very XC race. I wonder if the lower headtube and kenimatics make that much difference to the handling.
    Thanks.

    I have to imagine this bike could be built to suit many tastes.

    A lighter build and it would rip on XC.

    It does have a pretty slack head tube. A low BB. And a long top tube. These are all benefits, in my book. But you do have to be cognizant of the BB height - as you will smack your pedals now and again. But the trade off is amazing handling and stability.

    I've actually gotten my fastest times both uphill and downhill on this bike. It's no slouch in either direction.

    I was quite nervous to sell off two great bikes (2009 flux and 2011 foes fxr) to finance this bike. Thinking I could create my "one bike."

    But, I think I've done it. 6 rides in, an I am not at all disappointed. This bike is awesome.

    I'm looking forward to seeing some lighter, more XC'ish builds.
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    Well, it is all to suite the trails isn't it. If you showed up to the local trails with a Foes people would ask if you were lost. Glad to see you managed a one bike solution.

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    Here's my XC build for the new Flux.

    Alright, now that I've put in a couple of rides and have something to say about the new Flux, here's the decidedly XC build:

    Frame Size & Color: Medium, Ball Burnished
    Rear Shock: Fox CTD Evolution
    Fork: RockShox SID RCT3 Solo Air 120
    Brakes: Formula R1 w/Ashima rotors
    Shifter: XTR M980 (front only)
    Cranks/BB: KCNC K2
    Chainring: Raceface narrow-wide 34T
    Chain: KMC X10.93
    Rear Derailleur: XTR M786 Shadow (clutch type)
    Pedals: Crank Bros Egg 3 w/Ti spindles
    Stem: Syntace F99 105mm
    Handlebar: KCNC SC Bone 600mm
    Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece 30.9 x 350
    Saddle: WTB Shadow V
    Cassette: XTR M980, 11-36
    Headset: Cane Creek 40
    Grips: Ouri foam
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Nobby Nic, 2.25
    Rim: Stan's Crest
    Rear Hub: Stans 3.30ti, 15QR
    Rear Tire: Kenda Nevegal, 2.1
    Rear Rim: Stan's Crest
    Rear Hub: Stans 3.30ti, 142x12

    Weight: 23.5 lb

    Future changes: replace old stem, probably w/something shorter. Replace old cranks w/something newer & more reliable.

    Parts are a combination of pieces taken from old builds and parts bought new or used for this build. The hubs came from a set of Stans Podium MMX 26" wheels taken apart and rebuilt with 650B Crest rims by a buddy of mine, who also built up the bike.

    In the few rides I have had (on unfamiliar, flat trails) I can say the ride is solid and locked to the ground, both front and rear. It climbs incredibly well...just digs in and motors uphill with deceptively little effort. Harder to judge downhill performance just yet as northern Florida isn't exactly mountainous. I have little doubt that it will soak up more than I'll ever be able to put it through. It will take me some time and rides on familiar trails to get the suspension tuned to my liking.

    The best part? My 12-yo son is riding the '11 Flux and I foresee many father-son rides to come.

    - Matt B.

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    23.5 for an alloy frame build is light! Nice job. How did you decide on the stem length and bar width?

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    +1 for Oury grips! I have them in orange on my orange Burner (orange you glad?).

    In my case small/hard grips make for numb hands, but the Ourys don't.

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    jazclrint, the stem was the only 25.4 I had on. Thinking of going down to a 90 or maybe 80 after riding a few times. Bars of that width are practically a requirement in my area - trails in woods are tight and twisty around here. Last time I rode a bike w/660mm bars, I hooked bar ends and went down repeatedly.

    With you on the grips Thunder...gotta be cushy for my mitts too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewatchtech View Post
    jazclrint, the stem was the only 25.4 I had on. Thinking of going down to a 90 or maybe 80 after riding a few times. Bars of that width are practically a requirement in my area - trails in woods are tight and twisty around here. Last time I rode a bike w/660mm bars, I hooked bar ends and went down repeatedly.

    With you on the grips Thunder...gotta be cushy for my mitts too!
    Trails are like that here too. I went from 580 to 620 and while it completely settle the bike it's throwing my apexes off. Most folks can make due with 690s around here though. Let me know how the new stems work. thanks

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    I've put a deposit down for a new Turner Flux! Recently my 2008 was stolen (sadly), but my full replacement insurance is allowing me to buy a new one (happily!). I've demoed so many different bikes in the last year (primarily 29ers) and have really liked just a few. Mostly I demo just to daydream about a new bike, but now I actually had to choose something. I decided the 29er wheel size just doesn't work for me. I'm 5' 10" and 145 lbs and don't like the effort involved in handling them or getting the wheels up to speed, especially at the end of a long ride when you are tired. The one bike I demoed that I loved the most was the 27.5" Giant Anthem Advanced 0 model. I even wrote a review on mtbr saying it's the only bike I've ever ridden that I liked more than my 2008 Flux (blasphemy, I know). With my race team discount at my local bike shop, I could of gotten it. I was thiiiiiiiiiis close to doing it too. It'd make a killer race bike, but the truth is I'm never going to be more than a mid-level expert racer (I can't train enough hours to be more then that so a 2lb lighter bike isn't going to matter). I decided I want a bike to have fun on #1 and then worry about how to make it go fast. I decided to go with the Turner Flux again even though I've never demoed it. I liked the idea of 120mm front/rear + slacker head angle + slightly longer wheel base so you fit "in" the bike rather then "on" it. I loved my old one (even with the TNT suspension---pre DW link) and I decided I wanted to stick with a Turner because I trust Dave in his design. I talked to them in Calif to have some final questions answered and then decided to pull the trigger today with a local bike shop. I went with the raw aluminum finish (I liked it on my old one because I didn't care then about scratches), an xt build (because I don't want to pay for xtr or xx1 later when they wear out), but I instead went for the Kashima upgrade on the shock and spent my money on the upgrade to enve/dt swiss 240 hub wheels. I'll look to get a dropper post after the bike arrives (I didn't do the KS LEV upgrade on the website cause I like the set positions of my old Gravity Dropper---especially the set 1" drop. I'm even thinking about the new 9point8 post as I like the idea of set 5mm drops).

    I'm excited for it to come. I just wanted to share, that when push comes to shove, I trust that another Turner will make me happy

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    thanks for sharing

    Hey south acres, I remember you from the Anthem thread! I ordered a Flux last week myself so I guess we both found our way to the same conclusion. Congrats-- I look forward to seeing your build. Mine will take a few months to get together so I'll have to be a bit patient.

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    Does anyone know what the small Flux Trail build weighs (stock)? I"m between this and the Giant Anthem Advanced 3 (similar price point). Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Single_Trak_Mind View Post
    Does anyone know what the small Flux Trail build weighs (stock)? I"m between this and the Giant Anthem Advanced 3 (similar price point). Thanks!
    I'm going to guess that they are within a pounds of each other.
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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Anyone have a stock weight for a medium flux with either X0 or XX1 build? I am on the fence between this and a czar right now, but since I'd put a 120mm SID on the czar anyway maybe the flux is the way to go for only about a pound penalty and increased durability/trail worthiness.

    I also see the widest tire rated for this is 2.2-- has anyone fit a wider one on the flux? Seems odd this is only supposed to fit 2.2 but the czar can go 2.25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couloirman View Post
    Anyone have a stock weight for a medium flux with either X0 or XX1 build? I am on the fence between this and a czar right now, but since I'd put a 120mm SID on the czar anyway maybe the flux is the way to go for only about a pound penalty and increased durability/trail worthiness.

    I also see the widest tire rated for this is 2.2-- has anyone fit a wider one on the flux? Seems odd this is only supposed to fit 2.2 but the czar can go 2.25.
    There's about a 6/10th of a pound difference between the czar frame and the flux frame. But the Czar being bigger wheeled is going to have heavier tires, rims and fork (all things being equal).

    I think at the end of the day the final build weight really has to do with your personal preference, and not so much the frame.

    I'll post pics of a 2.2" fitting in the frame. There's tons of room.
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    3/5 pound*

    Reduce your fractions, IHBizznatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Castigador View Post
    3/5 pound*

    Reduce your fractions, IHBizznatch.
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    What else is new?

    I'm just bitter because my local trails look like this:

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    You poor thing. I was working on my tan lines yesterday.

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    Flux 3.0 Build Thread

    Thanks for the tire info/pic-- much appreciated. Looks like they updated the website to rate it up to 2.3" now anyway.

    Just placed the order! Medium flux, black ano, XX1, 120 mm SID fork. Will put it on the scale when it arrives. My first foray into 27.5" wheels-- hope I like em!

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    As I said above, I ordered XX1 on mine. I wanted to get a few wolf tooth direct mount chainrings for this. My frame isn't here yet but was hoping to get my parts together before my bike arrived. Does anyone know if the medium flux would take short spindle or long spindle chainrings? Both of these rings say PF30, just not sure which works here...

    Direct Mount for SRAM BB30 Short Spindle Cranks ? wolftoothcomponents.com
    Direct Mount for SRAM GXP Cranks ? wolftoothcomponents.com

    I think those are the 2 options. I wasnt going to run stock chainring for this because I want a bashguard and wolf tooth is the only one I know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couloirman View Post
    As I said above, I ordered XX1 on mine. I wanted to get a few wolf tooth direct mount chainrings for this. My frame isn't here yet but was hoping to get my parts together before my bike arrived. Does anyone know if the medium flux would take short spindle or long spindle chainrings? Both of these rings say PF30, just not sure which works here...

    Direct Mount for SRAM BB30 Short Spindle Cranks ? wolftoothcomponents.com
    Direct Mount for SRAM GXP Cranks ? wolftoothcomponents.com

    I think those are the 2 options. I wasnt going to run stock chainring for this because I want a bashguard and wolf tooth is the only one I know of.
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    Rode my new medium Turner Flux for the first time today. It took me awhile to get the seat height and seat back/forward position right where I wanted it. After that the bike felt very balanced. I'm really pleased after my initial first couple of hours on of it. There is a certain "bmx feeling" that my older 26" 08 Flux had that is missing a little (kind of a slalom/acceleration feeling when you are on a windy flowy single track---if you know what I mean), but I can feel the added momentum of the bigger wheels when up to speed and the bike was immediately more fun to launch off of stuff than my old one. I'm not sure it climbs as fast as my old one when really going for it (the 'o8 bike had 100mm travel and steeper geometry which put me in a bent over position for optimal racing speed climbing), but I also could tell immediately I felt more comfortable on the downhills and letting it fly. I'm also glad I didn't go with a 29er. I'd demoed a lot of 29ers and was never that excited by them, but after I ordered the Flux I started to question myself if I should of gotten the Czar instead. I'm not a large person and the medium 27.5" already feels big in a psychological way. The wheelbase (axle to axle) is only 1" longer than my old bike (and the same as a large Czar), but the bike overall is longer with the 1 1/2" larger tires added to it. The bars are 1 1/2" wider too (though I rather like it that way). I just can tell as I'm carrying it down the stairs that it's bigger and I'm like "glad it's not a 29er". And yeah, it's an odd way of looking at it, but the only mtn bike I ever really rode was my older Flux and I used to tell people it may look small, but it was really "fun sized" instead!. Overall I'm really pleased. I needed to replace my stolen bike and I believe I made a great choice sticking with a Turner. I still need to get the suspension dialed in more. It's a bit different of a bike then I've always had, but I can already see where I'm going to love this bike as much as I did my last one.

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