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    Final build questions for the Homers

    Got a 08 Sultan and Manitou on blowout.
    Did I 9s w flows and Formula K18s...

    Should I do XTR or XT cranks(Worth the extra $?) 170 or 175mm?

    I think XO Triggers XTR front, XO Rear. (Sram or XT cassette?) (Chain?)

    Hope Headset? Thompson post, Hope Stem 90mm, Groovy Luv Bar, Ergon grips.

    Egg beaters. Ardents or Weirwolfs?

    Your thoughts Oh Homers........

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    A bit more data about what you're after would help. Generally, the XT cranks work great and are only slightly heavier than the XTR - more bang for the buck. Same with the XO vs. X9 issue. I like going all Shimano on the drive train - cassette, chains and cranks. The Hope headsets look nice, I am very impressed with the Cane Creek 110 on my Sultan however. Tires depend on where and what you ride. I settled on a Rampage upfront and an Ignitor in back run with Stan's for most all my riding. The Ardents look nice and I may try them out this next season. Can't say much good about the Leg Beaters, I've seen too many fail.
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    if ya have the cash, xtr is stiffer and lighter. no biggie if ya dont.

    xt cassettes have a wider machined carrier than most which cuts down on long term damage to the alloy freehub body but thats nuthin ya cant cure with a few min and a small file. the pg 990 is also a excellent unit. as far as a chain, ill run nuthin but pc 991's. almost the same performance as a shimano with twice the longevity.

    king, hope, cc 110.... whatever turns yer crank.

    im a egg beater fan and own several pair. no issues in 6 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat
    A bit more data about what you're after would help. Generally, the XT cranks work great and are only slightly heavier than the XTR - more bang for the buck. Same with the XO vs. X9 issue. I like going all Shimano on the drive train - cassette, chains and cranks. The Hope headsets look nice, I am very impressed with the Cane Creek 110 on my Sultan however. Tires depend on where and what you ride. I settled on a Rampage upfront and an Ignitor in back run with Stan's for most all my riding. The Ardents look nice and I may try them out this next season. Can't say much good about the Leg Beaters, I've seen too many fail.
    The bike is for central Texas (Loose Rocky tech XCish)

    I have been thinking about going back to the shimano pedals....

    Thanks

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    I say -

    - X9 shifters/XO rear mech. I've had an X9 rear and it's nice, the XO is just that extra bit better
    - XT crank, ride what length is most comfortable. I ride 180s.
    - I like the Shimano HG93 chain personally - but use the SRAM quick link
    - I like Cane Creek headsets (SOLOS and King on my fleet, CC makes good stuff)
    - Ardents for your terrain
    - Don't like eggbeaters, I broke one set of CBs twice in 14 months. Went to Time ATAC Aliums...these things would last through nuclear war.
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    Sounds good to me.

    I prefer a SRAM 990 cassette and the SRAM 991 cross-step chain. If you think you'll be running a 2 ring set-up than maybe go STX front derailleur.

    I did XTR cranks but would probably get the XT with a Hope BB if I bought new again. (CRC has great pricing on shimano stuff)

    I'm going to try the Hope headset but the Cane Creek Solos is a great buy and has worked flawlessly for me.

    Ardent would be my pick. One of my favorites for the Sultan until Schwalbe makes a Big Betty 29'r.


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    Sean, that was a great looking bike. ..can't wait to see your dw


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Sean, that was a great looking bike. ..can't wait to see your dw

    dw??? Wtf is a dw and why in the world would I want one?

    DW drums?
    http://www.dwdrums.com/

    Diamond Ware?
    http://www.dw.com/about.php

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    Since you bought the Manitou a nice set of earplugs would be helpful

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    snicker, snicker.... that was funny. in a dissapointing sorta way.
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    I'll play: XT, 175, XT, XTR 7701, why not, Ardents.
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    greenfish has a great deal on sram stuff.....

    any problem with a x9 front as compared to xt?

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    I think the newer SRAM FD might be better than the 1st gen - let's hope.

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    ive had several x-gens and a x-9. i tried to dig em but they felt sluggish and were heavy in comparison. im all about the xt and xtr f der's. if ya want 1 of my sram's, drop me a line.
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    Go XT cranks (XTR cranks are a ripoff IMO), XT front der, X9 instead of X.0. Then use the money you saved on those options to ditch the Manitou and get a decent fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama
    Go XT cranks (XTR cranks are a ripoff IMO), XT front der, X9 instead of X.0. Then use the money you saved on those options to ditch the Manitou and get a decent fork.

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    ouch! I'll ride the Manitou for a year then upgrade after my wife forgets how much I spent
    on my "budget bike"

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    i'd give middleburn cranks a look before you commit to shimano. choosing middleburn means you can set up 40-30-20 rings up front which many feel is better suited for a 29er. i'm pretty sure if you go shimano you are stuck for good with 4X/32/22 up front.

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    I'll play as well.

    Xt crankset, in 175 unless you are a midget
    X9 triggers
    X9 RD
    with the money you saved (so far) buy an XTR FD
    XT cass, or else SRAM 990. SRAM or XTR chain
    Forget the bling HS, go with a FSA ORbit Xtreme Pro or else the PIG DH.
    Add some ARRRRRRRRRRRDENTS and you are good to go.

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    Thanks!

    Thanks y'all,

    I think based on the comments and my research i'll do Xt cranks+ Hope BB, Xtr front, Xo rear. X0 shifters. Hope headset. Thompson Post, Hope stem.

    Should have build and pictures in a couple weeks!

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    I just finished a similar build half a beer ago...this one was tiss'er 07, I picked it up in the fall to keep me sane through the brutal MI winter. Bike's done, Winter's not.

    I went xt brakes/shifters/cranks/cassette mostly for a change, seems like I've run sram for a long time now. The shadow RD looks interesting, we'll see?

    I do run 170mm cranks on all my bikes, I'm 5'10 w/a longer torso, shorter legs.... so they work well for me. If you have a 31" inseam or less it's worth the consideration. I borrowed an old 170mm crank set from a friend just to check them out, and I liked the spin and absence of pedal strikes.

    Have fun

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama
    Go XT cranks (XTR cranks are a ripoff IMO), XT front der, X9 instead of X.0. Then use the money you saved on those options to ditch the Manitou and get a decent fork.

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    I was hoping some decals might help the fork.
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