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    Crazy Fred's New Custom Turner

    We are pleased to announce that fellow Dieselbikes member Crazy Fred is ready to rip this season with his new custom Turner 6 Pack. Nine months in the making and a precision build by JRA Cycles makes this bike possibly the sweetest freeride rig in New England.

    Dieselbikes is showcasing this bike because the build has involved JRA Cycles and S&D Powder Coating too whom each have added their own unique touch; making this bike one of a kind. To further enhance the build, this bike will be the instrument to conduct our product testing of Spinergy's Fall Line FR Wheel Sets which they have so gladly provided for this build...read the full story and see more pictures using the link below

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes
    We are pleased to announce that fellow Dieselbikes member Crazy Fred is ready to rip this season with his new custom Turner 6 Pack. Nine months in the making and a precision build by JRA Cycles makes this bike possibly the sweetest freeride rig in New England.

    http://www.dieselbikes.com/reports/special_reports.htm

    Besides the painted spring and cranks I don't see anything special in the build that makes this bike qualify for the highlighted statements. You can save the "extreme marketing" for those less familiar to Turner bikes. It is a nice frame but can you explain??
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    From the linked "article":

    "This Turner is one of the last Hoist link models to roll off the production line"


    If you're go to the trouble of kicking the horse one last time, at least spell Horst correctly..

    Evidently, the key ingredient to gnar-ness is a white powercoated spring...who knew?

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    Nine months in the making? What the heck took so long?
    If you look in the pack data base in this forum, you'll see lots of nice pack/RFX builds, some nicer than what you're showing us. C'mon, you even have stock suspension components, no hot rod stuff. We've got packs here with Avy's, CCDB's, pushed DHX's, custom rockers, etc. You got a white paint scheme. Wow, I'm impressed .

    Oh, and does crazy Fred usually do his hucking without a helmet?

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    He has a dubious choice in helmets when he does wear one, he may be a nice chap he rides a Turner after all

    The shop is doing the horn blowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof
    He has a dubious choice in helmets when he does wear one, he may be a nice chap he rides a Turner after all

    The shop is doing the horn blowing.
    Agreed; if I was Fred, I'd be embarrassed by the write up the shop created. Check out this line; " We at Dieselbikes want to thank Adam Klein at JRA Cycles for taking the time to assembly this bike in a manner that shows quality and workmanship. From the smallest detail to selecting the correct front fork spring...."
    Wow, selecting the correct fork spring. I better get in contact with Adam to get that done right. Jeez.
    Just what kind of headgear is Fred wearing here?:

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    Hoist link? Is that a variation of the horse link?
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Agreed; if I was Fred, I'd be embarrassed by the write up the shop created. Check out this line; " We at Dieselbikes want to thank Adam Klein at JRA Cycles for taking the time to assembly this bike in a manner that shows quality and workmanship. From the smallest detail to selecting the correct front fork spring...."
    Wow, selecting the correct fork spring. I better get in contact with Adam to get that done right. Jeez.
    Just what kind of headgear is Fred wearing here?:

    I'll second that agreement about the shop blowing its horn a little too loud for something that doesn't seem out of this world. Of course, it is marketing. I think the only thing different there aside from the paint job are the rims from Spinergy. Who knows...maybe they'll be the bomb, but in the meantime perhaps the homers need to descend over there with their custom steeds and show them how its done.

    As to the helmet...the shape reminds me of what Sean Connery wore in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade except I think its got a chin strap or is that his beard? Personally, the way crazy Fred rolls w/o a helmet is scary-- I've seen enough head injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Hoist link? Is that a variation of the horse link?
    I thought the Hoist link was the New Jersey version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Hoist link? Is that a variation of the horse link?
    The hoist link is a location on the bike that the rescue team attaches a winch to when you've really wrecked bad.

    Now here's a couple beautiful white packs. Skullcracks:



    And Gogge's all avy pack;

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    A custom paintjob does not equal a custom frame.

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    Oops sorry Rene

    Wrong thread !!

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    Ahhhhhh, I'm blind!
    That's not crazy Fred, that's the Albino Latino! The famous Mexican wrestler.
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    He should stop hiding his black dress socks in his pant's

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    Well, if he didn't roll without a helment, he would'nt be CRAZY Fred, now would he?

    The shop probably just doubled the amount of hits they normally get, so who can blame them. But this kind of marketing isn't always a good move for a company. Whatever. Without this thread I would have had no knowledge of Crazy Fred - now I don't know him, but I know OF him, which is enough for me.

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    I don't get it...

    What the hell?!? Cut the guy some slack. He hops on and posts some excellent pics of a most excellent Turner, and because the verbiage of the build doesn't suit your protocol you gotta shot him down?!? WTF? I think we're becoming a little too jaded here on the Turner boards. This is the type of thread that used to provide the stoke and passion around here and now all anybody has got to spew is pessimism. What gives? Anyway, it's Gonzo's responsibility to rip on color coordinated bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    That's not crazy Fred, that's the Albino Latino! The famous Mexican wrestler.
    Soon to make his debut in Nacho Libre!
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    Tis all in jest, Shops are fair game if they are posting Spam, the rider "Crazy Fred" (my Father is called Fred btw) not that it has any relevance, is probably oblivious.

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    ready to hit the delete button...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    What the hell?!? Cut the guy some slack. He hops on and posts some excellent pics of a most excellent Turner, and because the verbiage of the build doesn't suit your protocol you gotta shot him down?!? WTF? I think we're becoming a little too jaded here on the Turner boards. This is the type of thread that used to provide the stoke and passion around here and now all anybody has got to spew is pessimism. What gives? Anyway, it's Gonzo's responsibility to rip on color coordinated bikes.
    I was very polite in my post. I can't help it if the rest of these slackers are rude as he!!.
    Nothing to see here.

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    OMG, sounds like Dieselbikes walked into the Turner gunfight carrying a nife, nyf, err gnife, ah knive, no .... knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    Soon to make his debut in
    There's actually a Mexican wrestler that is a Father (priest) and who runs an Orphanage.

    Forgot his alias...

    I prefer WWF... it's pathetic, but there are some hot chicks bouncing around.

    I was a big fan of Lucha Mexicana when I was a kid...

    As for the bike originally posted; yeah, it's very cool. Looks really nice and being it a Turner, it's a great ride... But I was expecting something really custom made (shock, rockers, anodizing, etc.). Kind of bummed after seeing it was just another (yet cool) Turner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLine
    Well, if he didn't roll without a helment, he would'nt be CRAZY Fred, now would he?
    I think the only way Fred could become any crazier would be to get another tribal armband tattoo. Probably the most traffic dieselbikes has seen before.

    Nice bike and solid build (not so sure about the spinergy wheels, but whateva), but I have to admit that I was expecting something with more bling. Looks like crazy Fred will be taking the 6 pack off of some nice stuff so good for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof
    He should stop hiding his black dress socks in his pant's

    WOW!!!! That comment shows that you are WAY too observant!!!!!!! Although, it was quite funny and fitting.

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    white spokes = krazy fugly

    IMHO.

    but hey, i'm not krazy fred and its not my bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof
    ...Shops are fair game if they are posting...
    Unless I'm misunderstanding what the website is saying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselbikes
    Who We Are

    We are just a group of riders that started this web-site to quietly get into the mountain bike industry. We do not except anything big from this venture but to have fun doing what we love, RIDE OUR BIKES!!!

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    ...Someday our goal is to build downhill/freeride bikes and bike components for anyone who wants bulletproof products tested on FLAT DROPS here in New England.
    ...they are not actually a bike shop but a "riding organization" with a website that they use to get publicity to get to demo new (free) stuff. Sounds good to me.

    Personally, I don't like the white coil on the rear shock. But I'll take free wheels from Spinergy or anyone else at any time. And I promise to "test" them thoroughly with my 255lbs of "testing equipment".

    I dig this vid of "Crazy Fred" dropping off a roof to tranny. It's not often you see a nice roof to tranny drop. He's even wearing a FF helmet in the pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohpossum
    From the linked "article":

    "This Turner is one of the last Hoist link models to roll off the production line"


    If you're go to the trouble of kicking the horse one last time, at least spell Horst correctly..

    Evidently, the key ingredient to gnar-ness is a white powercoated spring...who knew?

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    Sweet.

    So I have an extreme one of a kind custom turner too!

    Mine is super special because I'm using a special adaptor to use my IS brakes with my new post mount marzocchi. I even ordered my fork to match my rear shock spring. Can't get any more custom than that.


    And...;

    For the love of god, get some bigger rotors on that bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Hoist link? Is that a variation of the horse link?
    By calling it a "hoist link" and "IZT", then Turner doesn't have to pay specialized or tony ellsworth.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    Didn't Davide paint his spring white first?... oh wait, he used tape.

    While the post was worded a little over the top and read more like spam than a new build intro, it's a sweet looking bike.

    Airwreck...could you use your magical moderator powers and delete the picture of El Chingon from my mind??? I'm never gonna sleep again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    I dig this vid of "Crazy Fred" dropping off a roof to tranny. k
    Upon further review, Fred really does appear to be crazy. That's a sick drop.

    Maybe the intentions were on the up and up, and we are just a bunch of jaded dumbasses. Ah well, Fred seems to be too crazy to give a fu*k what a bunch of old washed up losers think anyway.

    Maybe I should bash TE or VPP just to set things right around here. Maybe we all just need a group hug. Aqua, care to facilitate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes
    We are pleased to announce that fellow Dieselbikes member Crazy Fred is ready to rip this season with his new custom Turner 6 Pack. Nine months in the making and a precision build by JRA Cycles makes this bike possibly the sweetest freeride rig in New England.

    Dieselbikes is showcasing this bike because the build has involved JRA Cycles and S&D Powder Coating too whom each have added their own unique touch; making this bike one of a kind. To further enhance the build, this bike will be the instrument to conduct our product testing of Spinergy's Fall Line FR Wheel Sets which they have so gladly provided for this build...read the full story and see more pictures using the link below

    http://www.dieselbikes.com/reports/special_reports.htm



    Nice bike. Crazy Fred needs a set of crazy brakes with some stopping power for a rig like this.

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    Just curious... what cranks are those? Painted FSAs?

    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes


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    Quote Originally Posted by rigel
    Just curious... what cranks are those? Painted FSAs?

    Sounds like it, site mentioned painted Gravity cranks. Look like em too...

    Kind agree with Crash that this board has been a little testy of late, but then this post with all its uberhype was kinda lookin to get blasted. It would have been better received on the DH/FR forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDtofer
    Sounds like it, site mentioned painted Gravity cranks. Look like em too...
    Yup, FSA Gravity cranks as said in the Dieselbikes website. I only did a quick scan of it the first time and must've missed that one. Thanks.
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    Unless I'm misunderstanding what the website is saying...



    ...they are not actually a bike shop but a "riding organization" with a website that they use to get publicity to get to demo new (free) stuff. Sounds good to me.

    Personally, I don't like the white coil on the rear shock. But I'll take free wheels from Spinergy or anyone else at any time. And I promise to "test" them thoroughly with my 255lbs of "testing equipment".

    I dig this vid of "Crazy Fred" dropping off a roof to tranny. It's not often you see a nice roof to tranny drop. He's even wearing a FF helmet in the pic.

    Patrick

    You hit the nail on the head.

    Diesel Bikes is a group of riders who share a love of riding and trail building. They do incredible trail work and building in the North of Boston Parks and reservations. They are not a bike shop but a riding club so to speak. Just for the record, Diesel Bikes posted this because of their excitement of a cool bike. No other reason.

    JRA Cycles is a Turner dealer and the builder of this particular bike for Fred. That is all. As far as the comment about choosing the correct spring rate for Fred. No this is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But the way it went down was like this. Fox did not send the firm kit like they were supposed to. The shop owner, made things happen that day. I think that is pretty cool .

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    hey, if Fred and Diesel can take a little fun heckling, then they are all the more welcome here on the board

    sh!t, i bet you boyz would be hella fun out on der trails (just wear a helmet, eh?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    What the hell?!? Cut the guy some slack. He hops on and posts some excellent pics of a most excellent Turner, and because the verbiage of the build doesn't suit your protocol you gotta shot him down?!? WTF? I think we're becoming a little too jaded here on the Turner boards. This is the type of thread that used to provide the stoke and passion around here and now all anybody has got to spew is pessimism. What gives? Anyway, it's Gonzo's responsibility to rip on color coordinated bikes.
    My take on Deisel's post, and my apparently mistaken attempt at a little ribbing and humor, is that Deisel was way over the top with his write up about a quite ordinary turner, by most standards. God, if I wrote up come lengthy diatrebe about how glorious my build was, I might come up short desrcibing my ordinary brakes, ho-hum pedals, ancient cranks, even more ancient eight speed powertrain, etc., you'd call bullsh!t on me too. Lighten up folks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogreg
    You hit the nail on the head.

    Diesel Bikes is a group of riders who share a love of riding and trail building. They do incredible trail work and building in the North of Boston Parks and reservations. They are not a bike shop but a riding club so to speak. Just for the record, Diesel Bikes posted this because of their excitement of a cool bike. No other reason.

    JRA Cycles is a Turner dealer and the builder of this particular bike for Fred. That is all. As far as the comment about choosing the correct spring rate for Fred. No this is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But the way it went down was like this. Fox did not send the firm kit like they were supposed to. The shop owner, removed the firm spring from his personal bike to make things happen that day. I think that is pretty cool .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    I might come up short desrcibing my ordinary brakes, ho-hum pedals, ancient cranks, even more ancient eight speed powertrain, etc., you'd call bullsh!t on me too. Lighten up folks!
    8 speed cassette? OMG!

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    is that thing dressed up for a Klan rally or something? Aryan Nations meeting?

    why the fear of Black or other colors?

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    Now now....

    Quote Originally Posted by gonzostrike
    is that thing dressed up for a Klan rally or something? Aryan Nations meeting?

    why the fear of Black or other colors?
    Remember, there's room for all shades of Caucasian on gods white rainbow.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightySchmoePong
    You don't know the secret handshake. Without it, you are only entitled to scorn and derision.

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    my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightySchmoePong
    Remember, there's room for all shades of Caucasian on gods white rainbow.*

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    * A quote from a classic late 90's onion article.
    that was priceless. of course, if it came from the onion, it almost has to be.

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    riding helmet-free in rocky terrain simply shows what kind of value the rider places on his melon.

    the pictures say a lot, but they don't say what the riders think they say.

    priceless, but not in a good way.

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    Fred's bike is sweet! He is very excited about it, and I am happy for him. He's a real good guy and pretty colorful to boot! Its pretty rare to see someone go as big as Fred does. He is one tuff hombre. He is a real good rider and is very passionate about mountian biking. He is always willing to help if you are trying to step up your game. Love the bike Fred!

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    All will be forgiven with the homers with the first boat load of action pic's on the Pack. In fact, most likely crazy fred will become a icon or homer i-nation gawd around here with major drop/stunt pic's. The homers will use these pic's against stray Santa Cruz and Ellsworth trolls. The "how big will the Pack go" questions will be directed towards the Crazy Fred/Crazy Turner sticky, and finally, gonzo will be happy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix
    All will be forgiven with the homers with the first boat load of action pic's on the Pack. In fact, most likely crazy fred will become a icon or homer i-nation gawd around here with major drop/stunt pic's. The homers will use these pic's against stray Santa Cruz and Ellsworth trolls. The "how big will the Pack go" questions will be directed towards the Crazy Fred/Crazy Turner sticky, and finally, gonzo will be happy!
    Well said Drumstix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix
    and finally, gonzo will be happy!
    at last! peace and tranquility in the Homer Nation!

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    Man that things gawdy. I can picture it being ridden in South Beach by someone in matching pastels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes
    We are pleased to announce that fellow Dieselbikes member Crazy Fred is ready to rip this season with his new custom Turner 6 Pack. Nine months in the making and a precision build by JRA Cycles makes this bike possibly the sweetest freeride rig in New England.

    Dieselbikes is showcasing this bike because the build has involved JRA Cycles and S&D Powder Coating too whom each have added their own unique touch; making this bike one of a kind. To further enhance the build, this bike will be the instrument to conduct our product testing of Spinergy's Fall Line FR Wheel Sets which they have so gladly provided for this build...
    I gotta say, when I read this first post, it certainly gave me the impression that Diesel Bikes has somehow taken a stock Pack and somehow refabricated it as a custom rig. I mean, no offense, but given the fact that the only "custom" work was having the frame (and spring and cranks, I guess) powdercoated, what exactly took nine months? And what exactly is "a precision build by JRA Cycles"? Installing the components so they work? I did that too, and it only took me a day and a half!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubermick
    I gotta say, when I read this first post, it certainly gave me the impression that Diesel Bikes has somehow taken a stock Pack and somehow refabricated it as a custom rig. I mean, no offense, but given the fact that the only "custom" work was having the frame (and spring and cranks, I guess) powdercoated, what exactly took nine months? And what exactly is "a precision build by JRA Cycles"? Installing the components so they work? I did that too, and it only took me a day and a half!

    Come on.
    The 9 month process was from start to finish. Between getting the frame from Turner. Having the parts powdered. Gathering the components a little at a time. Not everyone has the dough to just plunk down all at once. You now get how something can take time.

    The build took a couple of hours. The word precision is just being used to describe a quality build. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogreg
    Come on.
    The 9 month process was from start to finish. Between getting the frame from Turner. Having the parts powdered. Gathering the components a little at a time. Not everyone has the dough to just plunk down all at once. You now get how something can take time.

    The build took a couple of hours. The word precision is just being used to describe a quality build. That is all.
    Even our own 'Zilla only took a few weeks to get his frame, disassemble it, send it out for powdercoat, build it up at a snail's pace , and ride it. Couldn't have been more than a month. Whatever.
    I've been thinking that Deisel might look into a new career; writing spin for marketing or politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Even our own 'Zilla only took a few weeks to get his frame, disassemble it, send it out for powdercoat, build it up at a snail's pace , and ride it. Couldn't have been more than a month. Whatever.
    I've been thinking that Deisel might look into a new career; writing spin for marketing or politicians.

    Everyone moves at their own speed, I guess.
    Diesel is a unique character for sure.

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    Man, there is a lot of negativity here....

    Quote Originally Posted by yogreg
    Come on.
    The 9 month process was from start to finish. Between getting the frame from Turner. Having the parts powdered. Gathering the components a little at a time. Not everyone has the dough to just plunk down all at once. You now get how something can take time.

    The build took a couple of hours. The word precision is just being used to describe a quality build. That is all.
    It's almost like someone went onto the 29er board and expressed doubts about big wheels


    It's a sweet looking bike and I'll bet it's going to absolutely rip.

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    What the hell do we care? the guy has a bike that he likes and enjoys riding!

    What else do we want? Cut the man some slack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix
    ...crazy fred will become a icon or homer i-nation gawd around here with major drop/stunt pic's. ... The "how big will the Pack go" questions will be directed towards the Crazy Fred/Crazy Turner sticky, and finally, gonzo will be happy!
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    I guess I should have used a few dozen more emoticons in my post above to show I'm being humorous, given the few defensive posts that have come out in this thread. Where the heck is everyone's sense of humor? I hesitated to post in this thread today seeing as some people's hemmoroids were flaring up.
    Fred has a nice bike. It's average. It didn't take 9 months to build because of the complications of a one-off custom frame fabrication. He'll love the bike. I wish him well. Deisel is enthusiastic. Some of you should chill. 'Nuff said.
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    That wasn't directed at you Rene, was just speaking in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzostrike


    riding helmet-free in rocky terrain simply shows what kind of value the rider places on his melon.

    the pictures say a lot, but they don't say what the riders think they say.

    priceless, but not in a good way.
    He doesn't need a helmet since it's clear he only bashes up his knee. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    That wasn't directed at you Rene, was just speaking in general.
    Monsieur Bling, Je ne comprends pas pourquoi ce fil est devenu la manière qu'il est. Mais il sûr avait amusé. Ah bientot!
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    Guess its time for Dieselbikes to relpy

    I guess its time for me to chime in. I have been reading all the posting and I must say it has been a good laugh. No harm taken.

    Everyone has an opinion and I respect that. We at Dieselbikes are seasoned mountain bikers all too old to take offense to postings on a website.

    This is all good and if you guys want I will follow up with some action photos when Fred takes FLIGHT on his new rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes
    I guess its time for me to chime in. I have been reading all the posting and I must say it has been a good laugh. No harm taken.

    Everyone has an opinion and I respect that. We at Dieselbikes are seasoned mountain bikers all too old to take offense to postings on a website.

    This is all good and if you guys want I will follow up with some action photos when Fred takes FLIGHT on his new rig.

    Later...
    Good, because it was all in internet fun. Action shots would be sweet!
    Nothing to see here.

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    looking down at the bottom of the page, I see that Crazy Fred himself has joined mtbr and is reading this thread. C'mon Fred, give us your two cents!
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    Lets Make This Real Simple Crazy Freds Turner

    I have never heard so much B.S. over the word custom,I can't belive I have to respond to all of this madness from a bunch of punks.First up the build is o5 Turner 6 pack bought in Dec.05. STOCK d.h.x.(because that's what I wanted) Fox 36rc2 STOCK because it can't be pushed at this time,chris king H.S.Thomson x4 31.8 stem Deity 31.8 bar Thomson layed back post wtb saddle,hope minis,xo shifters xo rear der. xtr frontder. 990 sram cog set.991 chain,fsa b.b. ti spindle.fsa gravity cranks.powder coated and spring by S&D Because I wanted to And last but not least Fat as$ Spinergy Fallline F.R. Wheelset ONE OF TWO SET OF WHEELS SENT TO ME FOR FREE AS PART OF A SPONSERED DEAL I"VE GOT THIS YEAR WITH SPINERGY not bad for a 40 year old guy who doesn't even race. THEY Got there hands on one of the 460 sum odd video we (DIESELBIKES) sold last Nov.Local guys having fun I just happen to push things futher than the average rider. So anyway that's the build on my CUSTOM Turner I don't know where u live but around here those r some pretty fat parts. Custom means anything that is not STOCK and MY bike is any thing but STOCK Does powder coating a couple of parts make a bike custom ?to some degree yes But that's not the case hear. Let me address one clown at a time (I"ll leave names out of it ) Also If I spell some thing wrong please forgive me )IF U CAN) Having said that Dieselbike is a local Mountain bike club who loves to ride and is doing all the right things 4 the sport (unlike some people) www.dieselbikes.com check us out I'm sure you won't be disappointed My boy Frank thought it would be nice to post pic.of my new bike on our site so everyone could enjoy a kick as$ looking bike and in the mean time take a min. to thank everyone who was involved. Its called giving back try it some time He spelled Horst Link wrong and you ripped him (Geeks) he said Thanks to S&d who powdercoated my parts, He thanked Spingery for Sending me FREE WHEELS TO RIDE AND TEST WHERES YOUR FREE WHEELS TO RIDE AND TEST THOUGHT SO. He thanked J>R>A> a local bike shop for building the bike FOR meVERY CHEAP $$$ TO the Clown who said (WOW THEY PUT IN THE RIGHT SPRING OH BOY) I went in to pick up the bike last weekend (THREE DAY WEEKEND MIND U)and the store was PACKED with people and as busy as they were and they were very busy Adam Still took the time to swap out not 1 but 3 different springs untill the bike was right so that I COULD RIDE IT ALL WEEKEND in stead of saying I'm really busy can u come back on TUESDAY Frank wrote small detail I THINK NOT HAPPY CUSTOMERS # 1. What else ok I've been riding Mountain bikes for 18 years AND I ALWAYS WERE A HELMET . ONE day ONE time I forgot my Helmet So I still rode BECAUSE I LOVE TO RIDE DO U GET THAT!!!! Anyway one picture of me with no helmet gets snaped and posted on line and YOU CLOWNS run wild with it I"M stupid I'm an as$ hole.. THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE. MY breaks r big enough for me thank you Those HOPES work just fine. I don't a have a pushed dhx or an avy so all of a sudden my bikes not cool enough.YOU clown IF you Know how to dial in a 06 fox dhx, and can ride. To me (AND IT IS MY FUC$%%EN BIKE) thats plenty of rear shock. Why don't u buy one of my last AMATURE videos and you can see me doing a 18 foot drop TO FLAT on a 02 RFX with an AVY and a 5INCH single crown and the Avy blew up Same drop on my Alutech with a Swinger, stick it like no problem. Then the dude who says here r some real Turners Sends us a picture af what has to be the ulgyest silver Turner I have ever seen BUT IS STILL A TURNER NICK BIKE BRO KEEP RIDING and than a pic.os Skullcracks white bike SAME FUC%EN bike as mine except He has White Diety bars and mine r black and he Different wheels (BY THE WAY SKULLCRACK WAY NICE FUC%EN BIKE BRO.And my last one. A 9 month project ( CLOWNS RELPY WHY SO LONG MINE TOOK TWO HOURS ) BECAUSE I"M A FATHER WITH THREE KIDS AND $$$$ is very tight. SORRY I don't have rich parents. Buy the way did I tell you that in 2 months I'll be FORTY YEARS OLD punks! My buddy looked into one of the MANY clowns who was posting and this guy has been on MTBR FORUMS for 11 monthes and has over 1200 posts THINK ABOUT THAT I give u my word as a man this Is the frist (AND LAST) time I have ever posted anything. So why don't u spend more time rideing and less time talking SH%T behind a screen and a key pad. Thank you to all who is real and saw through all this bullsh and just saw local guys who love to ride posting a picture of A VERY KICK AS$ BIKE and fall prey to all the clown madness. To everone else Ive got one hour to play ball with my son before I hit the woods AND RIDE at 6:30. Peace CRAZY FRED >>>>>>
    P.S.SPECAIL THANKS TO JOHN F> AND SEAN G> OF BIKE MEDICS FOR SUPPLYING THE TURNER AND THE BUILD KIT GREAT GUYS WHO KNOW THERE BIKES THANKS ALOT GUYS>>>>>>>

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    Cactus, can you translate?

    Fred - hands down, post of the year. What you lack in quantity...you make up for in CRAZY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FREDFirst up the build is o5 Turner 6 pack bought in Dec.05. STOCK d.h.x.(because that's what I wanted) Fox 36rc2 STOCK because it can't be pushed at this time,chris king H.S.Thomson x4 31.8 stem Deity 31.8 bar Thomson layed back post wtb saddle,[B
    hope minis[/B],xo shifters xo rear der. xtr frontder. 990 sram cog set.991 chain,fsa b.b. ti spindle.fsa gravity cranks.powder coated and spring by S&D Because I wanted to And last but not least Fat as$ Spinergy Fallline F.R. Wheelset ONE OF TWO SET OF WHEELS SENT TO ME FOR FREE AS PART OF A SPONSERED DEAL I"VE GOT THIS YEAR WITH SPINERGY not bad for a 40 year old guy who doesn't even race. THEY>
    Hope minis on a 6 pack? oooookay!
    I guess every turner must be custom... since the only thing turner provides stock is the shock... u buy every other part. just like mine (and i aint bragging about it being custom bro)

    just chill crazy fred... who cares what a bunch of us geeks think about ur rig?
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    Wow, this clown doesn't know where to begin, but I'll try.
    All turners must be custom, 'cause generally they are sold as frames, so however you build one is must be custom. Okay, you got that one. The spring; Deisel says some one helped choose the right spring for you, NOT the story you just told, which is certainly more realistic. You get that one too. The shock; again, the custom thing. Deisel didn't do you any favors with his write-up. sounds like you're going to blow up any shock you ride dropping 18 feet to flat. If that's what your AMATEUR video teaches then no thanks, I don't want one. The helmet thing/think before I type. All I had was a photo, with no explanation till now. You can only think with the material provided. Oh, and the punk thing, well, I'm 49 years old and pay for my bikes with my own hard earned money so take that elsewhere young man. And lastly, if you don't like the responses you recieved then take it up with your buddy Deisel, he's the one who posted your bike and story on the internet for the whole world to see and comment on in a public forum.
    Clown rant over for now.
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    Greets to Crazy Fred

    Crazy Fred,

    Dude, you ****ing rock! Your enthusiasm for the sport is great and its clear you're totally stoked about your new bike. Congrats.

    I've been following your videos for a while now. The first one I came across was "Oooh, ankle, aaankle". Huge. Then, the legendary "Tell me I look great! Butta. Just like Diablo Baby". Then the freakin hillarious story about the exploding spring "Who ****ing threw that? Who the **** threw that!!!

    Anyway, long story short, if you ever make it out to Colorado let's ride.

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    Welcome to the Homer Nation Crazy Fred - you're no poseur snob that's for sure - just freekin' CRAZY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLine
    Cactus, can you translate?

    Fred - hands down, post of the year. What you lack in quantity...you make up for in CRAZY.
    No you didn't, DLine.......no you did not. Holy crap I was cracking up about that. LOL.....

    Crazy Fred, you're definitely taking the verbal jabs here far too seriously. This place is an equal opportunity jab machine where everyone knows their stuff and a big % have custom bikes, hence the barbs being thrown at the specific descriptions of your new bike. Everyone takes their licks and dishes 'em out with a fervor and that's part of the allure of this group. Call it hazing or call it good natured fun, but I've rarely seen anyone be critical with much seriousness....especially when showing off a new bike. Yes, that goes for Gonzo too who can rile people up, but you know he's probably laughing his ass off as he's riding singletrack in Montana.

    No worries on the Spinergy wheelset. I'm not sponsored by anyone although I certainly get bro deals on certain parts, so I know how that goes. I think you'll be ultimate test case for those. If they hold up under your big hucks, then Spinergy might win some new customers over. As someone else said, you'll likely become the poster child for the "how big can I go on a RFX?" questions with your new rig.

    Cheers,
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    I'd like to personally thank:
    The moderators, for letting this thread continue. This has by far been the most entertaining thread on the website. Look at all the hits it has!
    Deisel; thanks for setting it all up,
    Crazy Fred; my god, are you for real?
    Good job everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme
    Yes, that goes for Gonzo too who can rile people up, but you know he's probably laughing his ass off as he's riding singletrack in Montana.
    we have singletrack in Montana?

    whodathunkit?

    (remind me that I should wear a helmet when I commute on my bike on the PAVED streets)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Rant that makes cactus corn look like an English teacher!
    Finally, this thread gets interesting!!!

    Turner forum back on it's axis.

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    C-Fred,

    Sorry the Homers have offended.

    Like Rene and others said the initial post came across a little spammish and chest thumping. The post became an immediate target for the infamous Homer-humor (not everyone’s taste - at least if you haven't drunk the kool-aid).

    Most people post in a more understated way.

    No need for self and cost justification.

    Don’t go away - despite the apparent offence given, nearly every offender will enjoy future pics, stories and tech dis.

    Sweet rig.

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    OMG.

    Never has one thread left me so satisfied. Nothing warms the heart more than to see all these "homers" cannabalize on one of their own. Great works guys.

    I need a cigarette.......and a box of tissues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Even our own 'Zilla only took a few weeks to get his frame, disassemble it, send it out for powdercoat, build it up at a snail's pace , and ride it. Couldn't have been more than a month. Whatever.
    I've been thinking that Deisel might look into a new career; writing spin for marketing or politicians.

    Well I guess I suck, 'cause I'm planning on getting a Spot, but it's definately going to be on the order of a 6-9 month build (no powdercoating involved). Mainly because I'm not made out of money. My bad for being a poor college student with expensive tastes.

    Sayyyyyy, since you seem to have so much extra cash on hand, why don't you give me some? That way I can bust out with a sweet Spot build in a week or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
    Finally, this thread gets interesting!!!

    Turner forum back on it's axis.

    D.
    Hey we all thought that about Cactus - oops, I mean cactus! LMAO
    The owner who swapped his springs for you knows how to treat people right. I'm sure it's well worth spending your green there.
    Lastly - that post was awesome! Fred, beat the sh!t out of that bike and show us how you're doing it.
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    Lynn woods the land of hucks to flat, if there is a weakness in the Pack believe me Fred will find it there. Keep up the good work Diesel and crew I can't wait to see whats in store for trail work at B & T's.
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    Nice Avatar Cutthroat!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Monsieur Bling, Je ne comprends pas pourquoi ce fil est devenu la manière qu'il est. Mais il sûr avait amusé. Ah bientot!
    Tout a fait d'accord mais maintenant c'est de nouveau très drole. Il est très très fou ce Fred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55
    IMHO.

    but hey, i'm not krazy fred and its not my bike.
    Kind of agree Benja, Beauty is in the eye of the holder (or he who is under the gun!). BTW, great build blogg Benja. I am having Charles build my new ride at the moment, well waiting on the last of the parts actually. did everything turn out OK? The gang down at Passion seem a bunch of truly good egg's. Maybe I should photograph my build as well?

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    Question for Crazy Fred...

    Fred, how'd you guys get S&D to call you back? I tried 5 or 6 times to get them my frame, but had no luck. Also, daaaaamit...we had to pay for our spinergy wheels last year, I guess its time to start filming some more....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Speeder
    Sayyyyyy, since you seem to have so much extra cash on hand, why don't you give me some? That way I can bust out with a sweet Spot build in a week or less.

    Maybe if you move out to Colorado you can earn some of the needed money. You could follow Renegade around his shop and sweep up the metal shavings from his latest CUSTOM Turner rockers or something.
    Nothing to see here.

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    [QUOTE=CRAZY FRED] I"M A FATHER WITH THREE KIDS [QUOTE]


    Yeah, cool. I used to have kids. Only two though.

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    God, I'm glad Jim Lampley didn't see this............

    His freaking head would explode.

    Dude, mix in a period, paragraph, some hint of any grammatical correctness.

    I guess Fred wasn't "teached" proper english when he was in grade school.

    P.S. Any clones out there??
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightySchmoePong
    It's almost like someone went onto the 29er board and expressed doubts about big wheels
    Don't even go there. There being here - Well, That was Disappointing

    29er or Burner?

    Burner every time.

    And I happen to think the white powder coating looks sweet as.

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    Gawd, I couldn't wait to get to work today and fire up the internet to see what had happened with this thread. I drove my CUSTOM chevy tahoe [It rolls on non-OEM tires, got them at rubber-is-us] at high speeds, hucking it over lesser punk-sized autos in the road at every opportunity. Then I fired up my CUSTOM computer [burned out the original motherboard, now the electrons cruise at MAXIMUM speed on an aftermarket intell board] only to be disappointed that CUSTOM CRAZY FRED hasn't posted back yet.

    Mr. Bling, oui, Il est très très fou ce Fred.
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    I just have all stock parts on my 6 packRFX. It's pretty boring. I even have my stock DHX-C mounted upside down, but unfortunatly it's still stock. I built the rear wheel out of a stock 521 rim, stock brass nipples, and stock 2.0 spokes. I built the front wheel out of a stock 819 rim, stock supercomp spokes, and stock 16mm nipples.

    I had to take off my stock mallets last weekend because I sheared the pedal axle, I put my stock eggbeaters on in the meantime.
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    Jayem-Dooooooooode, you must have mad skills to pull off 18 foot drops to flat with those egg-beaters. That's EXTREME!
    Edit: I just noticed your custom shock mounting position. Did you require the services of several bike shop owners to help you select the proper orientation for your custom application?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Jayem-Dooooooooode, you must have mad skills to pull off 18 foot drops to flat with those egg-beaters. That's EXTREME!
    Edit: I just noticed your custom shock mounting position. Did you require the services of several bike shop owners to help you select the proper orientation for your custom application?
    Yeah, it was 5 years in the making.
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    You're turning black metallic.

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    This Thread is Epic.

    No, not the bike.

    For you CC followers, Epic used above is defined as:

    A literary or dramatic composition that resembles an extended narrative poem celebrating heroic feats.

    Interpret as you like.

    I think Fred is a fine and noble hero. (Gives us a break from beating on Aqua!)
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    Could you not get hold of a stock hacksaw and CUSTOMISE the fork steerer length so you could ditch those stock spacers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    I...I can't belive I have to respond to all of this madness from a bunch of punks....
    Hormers are to punks

    as Crazy Fred is to Emo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick3216
    Could you not get hold of a stock hacksaw and CUSTOMISE the fork steerer length so you could ditch those stock spacers?
    I'd have a harder time then selling my "custom" fork when it came time to change for something else.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

    You're turning black metallic.

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    OK Guys, we've had our fun, let's lay off

    yes, Diesel came in like a blowhard and spouted a bit too much about Fred's bike (which is a nice one but let's all stay grounded, bro)

    we, being the kind, generous, sarcastic-till-it-hurts Homer Nation that we are, let some air out of their puffery....some of it earned, some of it biting

    Fred sounds like a good guy for an aggro nor-easter freerider (easy Gonzo! let it slide! breathe! breathe! )

    let's move on.....besides, doesn't anyone think that Fred is the real incarnation of Smokey's avatar? Smoke 'um if ya got' um.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappoix
    yes, Diesel came in like a blowhard and spouted a bit too much about Fred's bike (which is a nice one but let's all stay grounded, bro)
    Diesel seems to have a pretty good sense of humor. Fred seems wound a bit too tight.

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    well, I'll lay off....unless Fred himself comes back with something irresistable.
    ****

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    [QUOTE=CRAZY FRED] I give u my word as a man this Is the frist (AND LAST) time I have ever posted anything. S/QUOTE]


    I fear we may never hear from our hero again
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    Long Live Crazy Fred!

    Quote Originally Posted by S-Works
    I fear we may never hear from our hero again
    Yeah, I'm pretty bummed about it as well.

    Crazy Fred's solo bombshell post was a rare gem, a wave clearing the deck of all the cannbalistic Homers.

    He will live in myth and legend.
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