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    Crazy Custom Avalanche Shocks, Even more Custom than Crazy Fred!

    For all you pre 09 homers that can't keep one shock or set of rockers on your bike, check this out:

    Comming Soon

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    Piggyback ala Carte

    We at Avalanche will be selling our piggyback shock in kit form. Build your shock yourself in any size and stroke with our piggyback kit.

    Kit includes shock shafts, shock bodies, bottom eyes, stroke reducers, valving shims, optional compression adjuster valve springs, bladder and floating piston reservoirs. Instructional DVD and valving charts allow you to change the shock eye to eye, stroke, reservoir size and damping curves to suit your new frame.

    You will never have to buy a new shock again! Service and revalve your own shock to your needs. Kit allows for all popular shock sizes such as 7.5 x 2.0, 7.875 x 2.25, 8.5 x 2.5, 8.75 x 2.75, 9.0 x 3.0 and 9.5 x 3.0 and almost every thing in between.

    Call us for details, pricing and options available soon.


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    Psick!
    Curious how one would fill and charge it @ home.
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    Do ya think Darren would help me put it together?

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    Wow! I had to look at their website to make sure this wasn't a joke.

    Pretty cool.

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    Oops, forgot to use the caps-lock...oh well.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Psick!
    Curious how one would fill and charge it @ home.
    Floor pump?

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    doesn't count - no 6.5x1.5 for us Sultanistas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Psick!
    Curious how one would fill and charge it @ home.
    I was thinking about this... it can't be that difficult to get nitrogen. There are definitely high end auto and motorcycle race shops in this city... probably your city too. I bet if you walked in with a portable air tank and some cash, one of them would fill it for you.

    I think it's a great idea.. the DIY custom tuned shock. Not happy with the tuning? Tear it down and try again. If you enjoy working on stuff and experimenting, it would be a fun experience. Plus how do you know that the person who tuned your shock truly understood how you ride and what works best? Seems like if you are trying to get every last bit of performance, it would take a couple of iterations to figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    doesn't count - no 6.5x1.5 for us Sultanistas
    I assume you meant...old skool sultanists


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    ...any moto shop (for the most part) can charge your Avy.


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    damn that is cool!
    how much???
    costco puts nitrogen in tires they install, couldn't one get a small tank and get it filled?

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    Cool indeed! 'How much' is the $64,000.00 question...

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    RCC works at Costco and it is no problem. They will do it for you, no charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AW
    costco puts nitrogen in tires they install, couldn't one get a small tank and get it filled?
    Yeah I suppose I could get a tank, but I'd also need a regulator to set the right pressure, and dosen't assembly have to be done submerged in an oil bath?

    All this is kewl and I do like playing but I think I'll let Craig do it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Yeah I suppose I could get a tank, but I'd also need a regulator to set the right pressure, and dosen't assembly have to be done submerged in an oil bath?

    All this is kewl and I do like playing but I think I'll let Craig do it for me.
    The oil bath assembly is pretty simple.... bucket? Zip lock bag? I don't know what a regulator would cost. It's not for everyone but I still find it really cool that it is being offered. If you have more time than money, DIY is a very attractive option. Alternately if you'd rather spend your free time riding than wrenching, paying a pro can be a good deal too.

    I just like having options, and wish more of the industry was open to the idea that one size / one setting / one head angle / one bb height / etc does not fit all styles and preferences. This is a big step in the right direction as far as I am concerned.

    The Roco was (from what I remember) at one time marketed as easily serviced / tuned at home, but I haven't really heard much about people tuning them (rebuild yes, retune no).

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    still wonder if it'll fit a medium Highline frame ...

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    Very sweet indeed. And I already have nitrogen and a regulator...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by HubbaMan
    still wonder if it'll fit a medium Highline frame ...
    You will need the remote reservoir option for the medium Highline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AW_
    ...It's not for everyone but I still find it really cool that it is being offered. If you have more time than money, DIY is a very attractive option. Alternately if you'd rather spend your free time riding than wrenching, paying a pro can be a good deal too.

    I just like having options, and wish more of the industry was open to the idea that one size / one setting / one head angle / one bb height / etc does not fit all styles and preferences. This is a big step in the right direction as far as I am concerned.

    100% Agree. Kewl option no doubt!
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    Wow, that's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    Oops, forgot to use the caps-lock...oh well.
    I also note paragraphs

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    Yeah, this is quite a step forward for the consumer here. I think that there is definitely a market for this type of product - the life-long enthusiast with high technical proclivity will really enjoy something like this.

    I might or might not fall in that category though!

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    wow..this looks awesome!

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    I hope Craig can offer an option to charge it with air and a conventional pump, like with the DHX. If the price is right, I would sell my CCDB and get one of these with a Hi/Lo adjuster option.

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    Cool option. I'll be willing to bet that the cost of the labor you save by assembling yourself is largely taken back by all the extra optional parts your get. Still very nice.

    Here is a product/DIY Kit I think someone would sell a lot of. How about a kit to replace the std port orfice piston in a Fox Float shock with a shimed unit, shims, guide charts for shims, IFP depth and N2 charge, replacement seals, and needle hook up to charge IFP Nitrogen chamber. Keep the price below $60 dollars and I bet you sell a ton.

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    Oh boy, this looks tempting.

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    What are you guys thinking? Why go to all the trouble of buying different shims, screwing around, perhaps never getting the correct results when you could just buy a CCDB. One shock fits all, brother.
    Jayem, have you posted this over at ridemonkey yet? All your buddies there, the suspension gurus, will be happy to know you can add
    MOAR SHIMS to your shock now.

    Seriously though, I wonder how Craig is going to handle listing parts on the website, so you can shop online. If you have to have a phone conversation with him everytime you want to buy something, he's not doing himself or the consumer a big favor.
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    I'm waitinf for something like this:

    WHAT THE HELL are YOU USING MY NAME IN VAIN FOR YOU SILLY PUNKA$$? ENJOY PUTTING THAT SHOCK ON YOR RFLEX!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AW_
    I was thinking about this... it can't be that difficult to get nitrogen.
    What's wrong with good old air? Can I put NitrOx in it instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    What's wrong with good old air? Can I put NitrOx in it instead?
    If you're asking me... I really don't know. Can anyone enlighten me... why is nitrogen used instead of air? What happens if you use plain old air?

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    IIRC I saw thread talking about this and they explained Nitrogen is used mostly because it's dry, consistent, and convenient. Compressed air tends to contain moisture. N2 is supposedly easy to get and factory builders like the consistency.

    Other than that it has no special properties that could not be done with compressed air.

    Edit here's the thread discussing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    IIRC I saw thread talking about this and they explained Nitrogen is used mostly because it's dry, consistent, and convenient. Compressed air tends to contain moisture. N2 is supposedly easy to get and factory builders like the consistency.

    Other than that it has no special properties that could not be done with compressed air.

    Edit here's the thread discussing it
    Thanks 'zilla. For DIYfers, I think air will do just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    Thanks 'zilla. For DIY-Homers, I think Nitrogen is the only way.
    ^^Fixed it for ya.^^


    OTOH it's not like moisture-free compressed air is hard to come by, some guys practically breathe that stuff for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    I bet getting moisture-free compressed air isn't much of a problem for you though.
    LOL! you are correct; I happen to have 3 filled bottles on standby though two of them contain 40% O2.
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    Hopefully the home build kits will be backwards compatible with existing shocks. I have a badly overdamped and harsh riding Chubie that needs some revalving. I probably only need a few shims and the DVD.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    You still have that pig? Gee, how'd you ever get suckered into buying that thing anyway?
    I might be tempted to take it off your hands if buyers remorse gets the better of ya.
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    With that Avalanche kit there would be no end to the tinkering.

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    has anyone called yet to get more info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
    has anyone called yet to get more info?
    Does your phone not work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LnW
    With that Avalanche kit there would be no end to the tinkering.
    Quote Originally Posted by renegade
    Yeah it'd be like having a CCDB without the spiking.
    (renny couldn't make it to the keyboard so I responded for him)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    Does your phone not work?
    The solution to that question could render mtbr largely obsolete.

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    Quote:
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    Yeah it'd be like having a CCDB without the spiking.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    (renny couldn't make it to the keyboard so I responded for him)
    Now look who's doing the instigating.
    I was trying to be nice. It's very difficult......
    Oh, you forgot, it would be like having a CCDB, except it wouldn't hydro-lock on two foot to flat.
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    I just ordered the kit and will be installing a 7.5 x 3.5 on my 5spot. Stay tuned for ride report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyChainsaw
    I just ordered the kit and will be installing a 7.5 x 3.5 on my 5spot.
    Kewl! so you have a DIY interrupted seat tube to go with it?
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    I bet it could be made to work well. I just get the idea it was valved for Chris Farley.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I bet it could be made to work well. I just get the idea it was valved for Chris Farley.
    IIRC, when I asked Craig about shims he said something about drilling nickles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I assume you meant...old skool sultanists
    not old skool, "traditional" sultanist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    For all you pre 09 homers that can't keep one shock or set of rockers on your bike, check this out:
    I sense a great disturbance in the force, as if hundreds of homers just reached for their credit cards . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I hope Craig can offer an option to charge it with air and a conventional pump, like with the DHX. If the price is right, I would sell my CCDB and get one of these with a Hi/Lo adjuster option.
    Quote Originally Posted by AW_
    If you're asking me... I really don't know. Can anyone enlighten me... why is nitrogen used instead of air? What happens if you use plain old air?
    Nothing will happen.

    Air is fine to use in the avy.

    I have rebuilt my avy twice myself and noticed no difference between air or nitro in terms of performance or heat build up.

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    Now this is awesome. Please post your results!

    Also you can get nitrogen at any SCUBA diving shop, and dont forget the air we breathe is comprised of about 80 percent nitrogen, also paintball shops will have nitrogen tanks since some people run a nitro system for their markers. Last but not least welding shops will have it as well.

    You're best and cheapest bet will be at SCUBA shop, at least in my prior experience.
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