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    Cracked Rocker

    on my 05 medium Flux.It is the left side directly over the fill valve of the RP3 ther are no contact marks either on the fill valve or the rocker. I just noticed this a few minutes ago while inspecting for the cause of a creak that started last night about 3/4 of the way through our tuesday night ride .
    Has anyone else had this problem,and like I stated I just noticed this so I have not contacted Turner yet but will do so tomarrow .

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    this is the 1st ive heard of such a thing. hell, i dont know if ive ever heard of this on any turner rocker this side of a major crash impact. im told dt already knows about yer rocker from his warranty satelite sent up on the last shuttle mission and a replacement is on its way to ya as we speak.
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    First try

    At posting a pic and the photography is not all that great either but you can clearly see the crack.

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    Get the elephant in custody which takes your bike for a round

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    and stop ridin the damn thin upside down! theres yer culprit!
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    So quick to take a bullet for Turner

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    this is the 1st ive heard of such a thing. hell, i dont know if ive ever heard of this on any turner rocker this side of a major crash impact. im told dt already knows about yer rocker from his warranty satelite sent up on the last shuttle mission and a replacement is on its way to ya as we speak.
    Actually this is a problem Turner is aware of. My rockers blew appart on my flux while riding over a small log. Call Greg and Turner he'll take care of you.

    I love how people are so fast to come to Turner's defence. I've broken four flux's in the span of a year. Two seat tubes, 1 rocker, one chain stay. The only break Turner said they haven't seen many of before was the chain stay.

    Although Turner CS does live up to all the hype.
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    funny.... i thought i said this was the 1st I'VE heard of it. heres yer kevlar vest back. i dont need it.

    sorry yer breakin frames. thats never fun. but relax just a tad bit, will ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    sorry yer breakin frames. thats never fun. but relax just a tad bit, will ya?
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    fair enough then. by the look of all that xl gear, id hate to pizz ya off and find ya at my door. hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregz12
    I've broken four flux's in the span of a year.

    Although Turner CS does live up to all the hype.
    Man, that bites. Even if they take care of it each time I think i would lose confidence in the bike eventually and go to something else.
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    Yeah I'm a fat ass

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    fair enough then. by the look of all that xl gear, id hate to pizz ya off and find ya at my door. hehe.
    hehe, yeah I'm a fat ass, 6'4 180lb. I should lay off the road racing because I'm getting too fat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Man, that bites. Even if they take care of it each time I think i would lose confidence in the bike eventually and go to something else.
    or get a bigger bike, like a Spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Man, that bites. Even if they take care of it each time I think i would lose confidence in the bike eventually and go to something else.
    Exactly my thoughts. I'm not sure I'd be all that confident riding a bike I've broken 4 times in a year. Greg, it would seem that the flux is too light a bike for your riding style (your weight sounds like a non-issue), based on those issues. I'm surprised that Turner hasn't tried to upgrade you to a 5 spot yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappoix
    or get a bigger bike, like a Spot.
    Two things:

    1. What he said, above, or

    2. About the only that crack came about is from HARD bottoming. Maybe a little more pressure in the shock?
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    glad you guys said somethin. hes bigger than i am so i kept my mouth shut. get that man a spot toot sweet!
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    I'm a little suprised you didn't suggest that he buy a blue '02 RFX... and maybe a pound of hot sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregz12
    I love how people are so fast to come to Turner's defence.
    Welcome to my nightmare.
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    The door's open Dusty. Don't wait for the knob this time mmkay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme
    Exactly my thoughts. I'm not sure I'd be all that confident riding a bike I've broken 4 times in a year. Greg, it would seem that the flux is too light a bike for your riding style (your weight sounds like a non-issue), based on those issues. I'm surprised that Turner hasn't tried to upgrade you to a 5 spot yet.

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    They may have. That's how I went from a Burner to a Spot.
    Don't forget though that the shock from a Flux is too short for a Spot and the fork probably is as well. There is a little money to be spent doing that even though Turner would take care of you on the frame.

    Then there's the sturdier wheels, new stem, oversized bars, etc that you'll want to buy afterwards
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    Dismay

    I guess I am curious as to why the Turner forum shares more of the failures than other brands? Is it because the Turner forum is a tighter community and it is a safe place to share info? Is it because the other small company brands have more aggressive moderators? Is it because other brands have no breakage? Is it because Turner riders are harder riders than other brands for a given bike travel? Am I a dick to my customers so I deserve the nose rubbing?

    My thinking is it is the last 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes
    I guess I am curious as to why the Turner forum shares more of the failures than other brands? Is it because the Turner forum is a tighter community and it is a safe place to share info? Is it because the other small company brands have more aggressive moderators? Is it because other brands have no breakage? Is it because Turner riders are harder riders than other brands for a given bike travel? Am I a dick to my customers so I deserve the nose rubbing?

    My thinking is it is the last 2.

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    Great questions.

    (1) Homers, no fault of yours mind you, think they are actually friends with one another and friends share everything. WAY moreso than cultures within other manufacturers' forums. So yes, tighter community in a sense or at least they act that way.

    (2) There is no doubt moderating is non existent here (thank God for Aqua and I). In the 29er zealot forum for example, your SPAM posting (even paying the $2 mtbr fee) will literally be a locked thread within 5 minutes max given the moderators. Not a bad thing, just a relevant point. The day Shiggy or cloxxki get a turner is the day this forum will be boring.

    (3) I will bet all of aqua's money that on the average, homers are more whiny than other owners. The expecation is so high for Turner bikes that if they hear a creak they will want to post it as a problem since 100% perfection is not achieved.

    (4) Homers are know it alls, or wannabee know it alls. Therefore, any time they can post on anything, negative or otherwise, they like to take the opportunity.

    (5) I will bet squeak wheel's money that Turner riders are harder on their bikes. The average homer is definitely a better rider than most other brands. The average rider wont even know where to find Turners and will resort to a Specialized etc. if they feel the need to drop $4000.

    (6) you are NOT a dick. i am a dick so i would know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelon
    At posting a pic and the photography is not all that great either but you can clearly see the crack.

    Here are some clearer pics of my broken rockers. I know they are kinda on the large side...and yes the bike needs cleaning.




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    Turner and I have sorted it out. I'm confident in the new frame.

    There was enough pressure in the shock. I set the bike up pretty stiff for extra peddling efficiency.

    Not to rain on anyone's parade, but the bike wasn't ridden in 5-spot territory. I suspect it's due to the fact XLs have very long tubes. These long tubes exaggerate every stress point. Also I'm tall, and relatively strong, which probably puts extra torque on the frame when railing around corners.

    I still recommend Turners to my friends, just because one frame didn't jive with me doesn't mean I'm still not impressed with the company.

    I used to ride/race downhill and used to love doing big drops, but have stopped riding that stuff since training takes up too much time. A new frame is a difficult decision which I'm looking forward to making
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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes
    I guess I am curious as to why the Turner forum shares more of the failures than other brands? Is it because the Turner forum is a tighter community and it is a safe place to share info? Is it because the other small company brands have more aggressive moderators? Is it because other brands have no breakage? Is it because Turner riders are harder riders than other brands for a given bike travel? Am I a dick to my customers so I deserve the nose rubbing?

    My thinking is it is the last 2.

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    Hey Dave,
    I just wanted to let you know this thread wasn't meant to deteriorate into a Turner bashing topic. I am not a blind brand loyalist like lots here; however you have stood behind all of your products and your commitment to customer satisfaction is industry leading. I recommended a Turner to one of my friends yesterday and will continue to do so. The fact is every bike manufacture will have frame failures. How a manufacture deals with these failures is what sets them apart.
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    Contacted Turner

    This morning and still have nothing but good things to say about them and there products
    this was a very pleasant experance.
    And in reply to Turners post as to why I believe it isbecause there is a bit of a brotherhood
    thing going on here.Every time I have ran into another Turner rider on the trail there is always a connection that I don't see with other brands and that is above and beyond
    other mountian bikers who are in general a pretty friendly bunch to start with.And that would be my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes
    I guess I am curious as to why the Turner forum shares more of the failures than other brands? Is it because the Turner forum is a tighter community and it is a safe place to share info? Is it because the other small company brands have more aggressive moderators? Is it because other brands have no breakage? Is it because Turner riders are harder riders than other brands for a given bike travel? Am I a dick to my customers so I deserve the nose rubbing?

    My thinking is it is the last 2.

    DT
    I think it's actually because people are amazed when it actually happens, so they have to report it. Kinda like seeing Bigfoot, or Dusty riding a bike with a part more than six months old on it, you'd have to tell someone!

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    Damned, my Powerbook's 12inch screen just explosed !

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    Holy stress cracks batman!!!

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    To DT's point...
    I'm not sure why folks post pics of a failure before talking with Turnerbikes. Yeah you're sharing, but what is there to gain by posting it?
    I'm happier seeing pics of Aqua hucking that rock.
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    [QUOTE=FoShizzle]Great questions.
    (1) Blah, blah...
    (2) Blah, blah...
    (3)Blah, blah...
    (4) Homers are know it alls, or wannabee know it alls. Therefore, any time they can post on anything, negative or otherwise, they like to take the opportunity.
    (5) Blah, blah...
    (6) Blah, blah...[/UQUOTE]
    Great stuff Fo. I do feel DTs pain though. On some forums riders are afraid to post failures because of the hammering that awaits them. I think the hammering happens far less here and so the failures posting expands proportionally. DT all you gotta do (since everyone knows we are all zealots here) is request that we mercilessly hammer every failure poster who shows up and it will all go away (just kidding fellow zealots ). The posting here may also be a counter-intuitive defensive reaction to the generalized criticism Homers face. Its kind of like we are sufficiently proud and confident of the Turner brand that we post to spite the unbelievers. Oh, wait did I just fall into category #4 above???

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    Could we please deal with Turner first?

    The responsible thing to do is should talk to Turner and post the full experience once they get a chance to respond. It gives us the full story up front that way.

    This is a downside to having a tight community but the end result isn't negative. However, the cool thing is that stuff like this happens to the best bikes and the mediocre bike (note no reference to crap bikes ). In Turner's case, I really think it actually builds more loyalty than not. I'm not sure how many manufacturers can boast that- maybe Ventana and Turner? I talk to a lot of the LBS guys and do I hear some horror stories about other manufacturers! When it comes to Turner, it is always positive. They are not even Turner dealers- they probably should be. Someone find me a Turner Rep.

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    I know I've been flamed in the past for saying go to Turner first. Odd how others are jumping on that bandwagon.

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