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    Carbon RFX build thread

    Now that the RFXs are here its time for a build thread.

    What's everyone doing, and how are you liking the new bike?

    My frame is a couple weeks out, but the parts have been arriving:
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    What's everyone doing?
    waiting, and waiting ... :/

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    That's going to be one hot looking bike, going by the pile of bits!!!

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    Is that a 34?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    Is that a 34?

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    I got the decals at Sea Otter from the Fox booth, not sure were else to find them.

    Orange is anti-hetero? But the General Lee was orange!?!

    2015 Fox 36 160mm RC2, place holder fork until my 170mm Lyric arrives.

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    Soulie, could I ask what size you will be riding and how tall you are? I've always enjoyed seeing your pics you have posted.

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    I'll buy the stickers when the lyric shows up.


    I dont think you want to ride a lyric over a newer 36. I know I wouldn't.
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    They are called Stealth decals, you can get them from the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix View Post
    Soulie, could I ask what size you will be riding and how tall you are? I've always enjoyed seeing your pics you have posted.

    Cheers!
    I'm 5' 10.5" riding a large. Used to ride mediums but have switched to large for Turner frames.

    Looking forward to posting some more photos once the bike is built!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    I'll buy the stickers when the lyric shows up.


    I dont think you want to ride a lyric over a newer 36. I know I wouldn't.
    I have had a little time on the 36 on my Burner. It felt stiffer than the Pike, but not as smooth. It may not have enough time on it to be properly broken in.
    Your 36 has the newer Fit4 cart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    They are called Stealth decals, you can get them from the internet.
    Hey Eric, how are things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    I'm 5' 10.5" riding a large. Used to ride mediums but have switched to large for Turner frames.

    Looking forward to posting some more photos once the bike is built!
    because of extra WB length, reach, ETT, what? combo of all? new longer, lower, slacker works better in large if you're on the fit line of med./large?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    I have had a little time on the 36 on my Burner. It felt stiffer than the Pike, but not as smooth. It may not have enough time on it to be properly broken in.
    Your 36 has the newer Fit4 cart?
    I got a 26" talas so it's the RC2. It really is the best stock fork damper I've ever had IMO. They changed the rebound piston in those things do duplicate the faster HSR damping like rockshock's "hurry up and come back™". But the Fox compression dampers actually do something. I do think my pike is a little smoother at super low speeds off the top. But slamming into things with rattle vision, that fox stuff squisher is WAY better.

    Can't beat RS fork weights though. My talas is a pound and a half heavier than the base float.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    I got a 26" talas so it's the RC2. It really is the best stock fork damper I've ever had IMO. They changed the rebound piston in those things do duplicate the faster HSR damping like rockshock's "hurry up and come back™". But the Fox compression dampers actually do something. I do think my pike is a little smoother at super low speeds off the top. But slamming into things with rattle vision, that fox stuff squisher is WAY better.

    Can't beat RS fork weights though. My talas is a pound and a half heavier than the base float.
    I really don't have enough time on the 36 to have an informed opinion. It was on my Burner briefly before I got that other bike (with different fork) I rode all summer.

    Pound and a half heavier? My 36 Float is 4.5# you saying your talas is 6#?

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    I had planned on building up a Warden (150mm) this fall/winter before the new RFX announcement so I bought a new 160mm MRP Stage. The bummer I guess is the RFX can take a bigger fork and the stage is only 150/160.

    I'm not a big hit rider so it should be fine for my needs. Mostly a few trips to mammoth.
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    The Stage can be set at 170 mm. Very easy to change with internal spacers. There is a good video floating around. Might be up on the MRP site. I'm running my Stage at 170 on a Warden. Feels great. The A2C is a bit lower than other forks so the 170 works for a lot of bikes out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix View Post
    I had planned on building up a Warden (150mm) this fall/winter before the new RFX announcement so I bought a new 160mm MRP Stage. The bummer I guess is the RFX can take a bigger fork and the stage is only 150/160.

    I'm not a big hit rider so it should be fine for my needs. Mostly a few trips to mammoth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    Pound and a half heavier? My 36 Float is 4.5# you saying your talas is 6#?

    5.8 lbs baby!

    It's a 180mm I shortened to 170. Probably not the brightest thing to do but I hate pedaling 65 degree headangle bikes uphill for hours.
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    I have had two 2016 FOX Float 160mm RC2 forks. Fork #1 didn't use all of its travel and was bit harsh, and required lower pressure than recommended. Once it was broken in, it performed much better. Fork #2 (purchased about 6 months later) worked great from the start - plush, mid stroke support, full travel, correct air pressure. I am planning to send fork #1 into Fox, now that I know better. I was hesitant to purchase a second Fox Float based on my experience for fork #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    Hey Eric, how are things?
    Almost recovered from Whistler, probably would have been quicker if I had just sat around and got fat.

    I like the looks of that tire, just picked up a Shorty for the front. Saw the gumx rockr for half price and thinking about trying as a rear. How's the sizing on the 2.35 compared to a Maxxis 2.4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    Almost recovered from Whistler, probably would have been quicker if I had just sat around and got fat.

    I like the looks of that tire, just picked up a Shorty for the front. Saw the gumx rockr for half price and thinking about trying as a rear. How's the sizing on the 2.35 compared to a Maxxis 2.4?
    They're pretty simiar sizing wise.......as in neither are huge.

    That's pretty much the best tire tread ever. I imagine it might gum up in some of that sticky orange Hawaii muck though. They're kinda heavy too.

    You didn't wreck in the air at whistler did you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix View Post
    I had planned on building up a Warden (150mm) this fall/winter before the new RFX announcement so I bought a new 160mm MRP Stage. The bummer I guess is the RFX can take a bigger fork and the stage is only 150/160.

    I'm not a big hit rider so it should be fine for my needs. Mostly a few trips to mammoth.
    The RFX should be perfect for mammoth, a aggressive 160ish bike is a whole lot of fun on that mountain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    5.8 lbs baby!

    It's a 180mm I shortened to 170. Probably not the brightest thing to do but I hate pedaling 65 degree headangle bikes uphill for hours.
    Oh, the big boy talas. That explains it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    Almost recovered from Whistler, probably would have been quicker if I had just sat around and got fat.

    I like the looks of that tire, just picked up a Shorty for the front. Saw the gumx rockr for half price and thinking about trying as a rear. How's the sizing on the 2.35 compared to a Maxxis 2.4?
    The maxxis 2.4 and the mitchy 2.3 are about the same size. The mitchy rockr 2 is one of the best performing tires I have ridden. I'm a fan of minions etc and the rockr 2 behaves at least as well and lasts waaay longer.

    What happened at whistler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    I have had two 2016 FOX Float 160mm RC2 forks. Fork #1 didn't use all of its travel and was bit harsh, and required lower pressure than recommended. Once it was broken in, it performed much better. Fork #2 (purchased about 6 months later) worked great from the start - plush, mid stroke support, full travel, correct air pressure. I am planning to send fork #1 into Fox, now that I know better. I was hesitant to purchase a second Fox Float based on my experience for fork #1.
    Good to know, I'll keep that in mind. One of the demo RFXs has a 36 on it that everyone hates, looks like they can be hit ad miss...

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    1soulrider. I know you've been a Turner support for a long time now. Have you tried any other bikes recently, while waiting for the RFX? Have you had any demo time on the new RFX? Curious what your thoughts are.

    I've owned several RFXs and 5 Spots in years past. I hope this RFX brings them back to the top of the list.

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    The RFX should be perfect for mammoth, a aggressive 160ish bike is a whole lot of fun on that mountain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    1soulrider. I know you've been a Turner support for a long time now. Have you tried any other bikes recently, while waiting for the RFX? Have you had any demo time on the new RFX? Curious what your thoughts are.

    I've owned several RFXs and 5 Spots in years past. I hope this RFX brings them back to the top of the list.
    It is true I am a long time Turner enthusiast. I've always made a point of riding as many bikes from other brands as often as possible to remain relevant in my opinions. I was fortunate enough to do some testing of the earlier (aluminum and 26") RFX protos, but have not had any time on the carbon ones. My excitement about the bike stems from the protos I did ride, my love of the Burner (& 5Spot before it), and generally liking what Dave does with DW suspension.

    At the beginning of this year the RFX was still a mirage on the horizon and I was tired of waiting. The Burner was awesome, but I wanted carbon (stiffer & lighter) and more travel.
    I had the opportunity to demo a YT Capra, and was impressed with it's abilities. The US distributer is about an hour away from my house so I picked one up.
    It took a while to dial it in, and get used to how it pedaled, but in the end I really like it.
    It is truly the only bike I have ever owned that is as enjoyable on a trail ride as it is in the bike park. If Turner had not come through with this new RFX, I would happily be riding the Capra for the foreseeable future.

    Really looking forward to seeing how the RFX compares.

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    Thanks for your reply. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    They're pretty simiar sizing wise.......as in neither are huge.

    That's pretty much the best tire tread ever. I imagine it might gum up in some of that sticky orange Hawaii muck though. They're kinda heavy too.

    You didn't wreck in the air at whistler did you?
    Actually mostly been surfing the craziest deep duffy/loamy lately, that shorty is great, need to replace the hr2 rear with something beefier now.

    Wouldn't even call it a wreck, wet milled wood got me, tried to ride it out, should of tossed it. Out of my crew, I made it the furthest into '15 before breaking. The first guy to break will also be first on a RFXC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    The maxxis 2.4 and the mitchy 2.3 are about the same size. The mitchy rockr 2 is one of the best performing tires I have ridden. I'm a fan of minions etc and the rockr 2 behaves at least as well and lasts waaay longer.

    What happened at whistler?
    Was thinking dhr2, been running those front and rear on my dhr not sold on it as front yet. Hard for me to stray from Maxxis but can be per$uaded to try something different and if it starts with an M even better.

    Was feeling invincible for almost 10 days at WBP before making a bad decision...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    Was thinking dhr2, been running those front and rear on my dhr not sold on it as front yet. Hard for me to stray from Maxxis but can be per$uaded to try something different and if it starts with an M even better.

    Was feeling invincible for almost 10 days at WBP before making a bad decision...
    Back in the day the Michelin Comp 24 and 32 (when you wanted to go full-retard) were insanely sticky. The only problem was that I could toast a 24 rear tire in about 2 weeks. The minions came along shortly thereafter and provided similar traction that lasted a bit longer. Not that sticky minions last all that long in really rough rocky conditions, but a lot longer than those michelins that damn near evaporated.

    If this offers said traction and doesn't evaporate so fast, it could be good. I was tempted to go with those tires for my RFX build, but the "real size" kind of dissuaded me. I went with the 2.3 Schawlbe HD for the front and Vredestein Bobcat 2.35 for the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    If this offers said traction and doesn't evaporate so fast, it could be good. I was tempted to go with those tires for my RFX build, but the "real size" kind of dissuaded me. I went with the 2.3 Schawlbe HD for the front and Vredestein Bobcat 2.35 for the rear.
    You couldn't pay me to run a Schawlbe HD, a German Nevagal imo.
    The size of the Mitchy was an issue for you? They are pretty big, on par with Maxxis 2.4/2.5. Not huge, but plenty of volume. Maybe a hair smaller than the HDs but not by much.
    Btw, I have a pair of lightly used 2.35 HDs, trailstar compound I'll sell cheap if interested...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    Was thinking dhr2, been running those front and rear on my dhr not sold on it as front yet. Hard for me to stray from Maxxis but can be per$uaded to try something different and if it starts with an M even better.

    Was feeling invincible for almost 10 days at WBP before making a bad decision...
    I've been running dhr2s on my big bike too, not a bad tire really. Try the Mitchys you will be impressed.

    A hero for ten days, and then some pain eh? Pride goes before a fall

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    don't forget this lil' guy

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    I haven't ridden the trail versions but their big brother is the only thing that goes on my dh bike these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    The Stage can be set at 170 mm. Very easy to change with internal spacers. There is a good video floating around. Might be up on the MRP site. I'm running my Stage at 170 on a Warden. Feels great. The A2C is a bit lower than other forks so the 170 works for a lot of bikes out there.

    I did not know this, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    The RFX should be perfect for mammoth, a aggressive 160ish bike is a whole lot of fun on that mountain!
    Definitely! The ole 6 Pack/RFX-2 was a blast there and this bike should be a better pedaling. Could be 5 pounds lighter too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
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    I haven't ridden the trail versions but their big brother is the only thing that goes on my dh bike these days.
    Yep, that's an excellent tire. The trail version could be worth tracking down.

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    Carbon RFX build thread

    Here's my build spec. Just completed a few minutes ago. Only ridden around the parking lot. Can't wait to have it tested this weekend.

    Frame: Medium RFX
    Fork: Fox 36 Float (Special edition)
    Bars: Kore 800mm (will replace with Enve DH bar)
    Grips: ODI Turner grip
    Stem: Thomson 50mm
    Headset: FSA included with frame
    Cranks: Sram X01
    Chainring: Sram X01 32T
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X01
    Cassette: XO1 11 speed
    Shifter: X01 11 Speed Trigger
    Pedals: Spank Spike
    Wheels: Light-Bicycle 38mm on Chris King hubs
    Brakes: Hope M4 200mm front; 180 rear
    Tires: Minion 2.3 front; Minion 2.3 front for rear too.
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    Seat: Fizik Gobi XM

    Total weight: 13.61kg (exactly as 30#)



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    Great build built_cn!! Just out of curiosity, how tall are you? Did you size up, down, or was medium perfect?
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    Here's my build spec. Just completed a few minutes ago. Just ridden around the parking lot. Can't wait to have it ridden this weekend.

    Frame: Medium RFX
    Fork: Fox 36 Float (Special edition)
    Bars: Kore 800mm (will replace with Enve DH bar)
    Grips: ODI Turner grip
    Stem: Thomson 50mm
    Headset: FSA included with frame
    Cranks: Sram X01
    Chainring: Sram X01 32T
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X01
    Cassette: XO1 11 speed
    Shifter: X01 11 Speed Trigger
    Pedals: Spank Spike
    Wheels: Light-Bicycle 38mm on Chris King hubs
    Brakes: Hope M4 200mm front; 180 rear
    Tires: Minion 2.3 front; Minion 2.3 front for rear too.
    Post: KS Lev 125
    Seat: Fizik Gobi XM

    Total weight: 13.61kg (exactly as 30#)

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    Thanks man, I am 5'8" and feel just right on a medium. I have a kind of longish leg though with 32" inseam. Let's see how it goes on the trail...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    Thanks man, I am 5'8" and feel just right on a medium. I have a kind of longish leg though with 32" inseam. Let's see how it goes on the trail...


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    If you were an inch shorter do think you would still find the med a good fit?

    Very nice build btw, 30lbs is amazing ESP considering the amount of travel. My last RFX was close to 34-35 pounds.
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    If I were and inch shorter, I think it would be a a perfect fit, however if I am an inch taller, I would consider the large size better.
    We'll really see once I'm ridden it a bit. Too early to tell. though my initial impression is I may go a little longer stem,



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    Very nice, congrats. Interested in hearing your feedback.

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    Frame: Small RFX
    Shock: Stock Debonair
    Fork: 2016 Lyrik rct3 160mm
    Bars: Raceface Next 725mm
    Grips: Renthal Kevlar
    Stem: Twenty Six 50mm, 31.8
    Headset: FSA stock
    Cranks: Raceface Turbine 170mm
    Chainring: Raceface Narrow wide 30T
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Zee
    Cassette: Shimano XT 11-36
    Shifter: Shimano Zee 10spd
    Pedals: Xpedo Spry
    Wheels: Spank Oozy Trail
    Brakes: XT
    Tires: F Hans Dampf 2.35, R 2015 Nobby Nic 2.35
    Post: Reverb Stealth
    Rider Height: 5'3" barefoot (shorter legs/longer torso, comparatively)
    Rider Weight: 145lbs
    Last bikes: Knolly Endorphin 26", Knolly Chilcotin (sizing feels very similar between RFXC and both Knolly's)

    Total weight: ? scale is broken
    My guess is a little under 29lbs.
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    I believe the earlier 36s were deemed harsh and fox will fix them for you for free. They changed the tune to be more compliant. I have an early one and am not thrilled with its sensitivity unless I'm at the bike park and moving fast. I'm going to send mine in once the snow comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    I believe the earlier 36s were deemed harsh and fox will fix them for you for free. They changed the tune to be more compliant. I have an early one and am not thrilled with its sensitivity unless I'm at the bike park and moving fast. I'm going to send mine in once the snow comes.
    Good info

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    Great build BMagic!! Loving the builds!!! Would it be possible to put height, last bike ridden and compare size of the two bikes for reference? (i.e. had a small Nomad3 and that bike felt a little small, but small RFX feels perfect, vice versa, etc.)
    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicolli1976 View Post
    Great build BMagic!! Loving the builds!!! Would it be possible to put height, last bike ridden and compare size of the two bikes for reference? (i.e. had a small Nomad3 and that bike felt a little small, but small RFX feels perfect, vice versa, etc.)
    Thanks!!
    Great idea. Updated with some extra information. I'm going to post a longer review once I have more ride time.

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    beefmagic: how difficult was routing the Reverb? i assume you pulled the hose from the remote. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick. View Post
    beefmagic: how difficult was routing the Reverb? i assume you pulled the hose from the remote. Right?
    Nick, it was fairly easy. I was kind of dreading it not knowing how difficult it would be but it turned out pretty painless. Here are my steps:

    1. Unthread the trigger from the hose. Use electrical to tape up the open end of the hose so oil won't drip out.
    2. Use an old piece of cable housing as a guide. Thread it up through the stealth routing hole and out the seat tube.
    3. Tape the guide and reverb hose together and pull the guide back down bringing the reverb hose with it.
    4. Reconnect the trigger.
    5. If you need to bleed it, just use the reverb syringe on the trigger only and pump in oil. No need to do a full bleed.

    It took about 10-15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    If I were and inch shorter, I think it would be a a perfect fit, however if I am an inch taller, I would consider the large size better.
    We'll really see once I'm ridden it a bit. Too early to tell. though my initial impression is I may go a little longer stem,



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    Yep - similar feeling!!! Like you, I am still tinkering and don't want to say too much yet. I am 5' 8.5" and tried to make the 50mm stem work with wider bars (~770-790mm) on the medium. It is not bad on the fast twisty shuttle ride downs, but the rest of time - blah - it is horrible. Too cramped to generate enough power. Irony - 6 months ago I would have thought this was perfect coming from the medium Uprising (which is smallish frame size), but I have recognized the comfort and fun of the longer Insurgent. The RFX corners like Uprising, which is what I was after. I am currently exploring frame sizing out of personal curiosity. I still believe in the Turner's argument for proper weight distribution. Anyway, I had to switch to 60mm stem, which feels fine with 760mm bars. The extra 10mm in stem made a world of difference in cockpit roominess and comfort for generating power. It seems to handle okay - more trail time is needed. With the 60mm stem, I feel like I need a lower riser bar than the ones I have now, which are 25mm. That's all for now.

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    Ride reports?

    Really would like to hear thoughts on the suspension behavior from the RFX. Linear? Progressive? Behavior on small chatter vs bigger impacts, and how is that stock RS Debonair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    Ride reports?

    Really would like to hear thoughts on the suspension behavior from the RFX. Linear? Progressive? Behavior on small chatter vs bigger impacts, and how is that stock RS Debonair?
    The suspension is fantastic. Its very supple for the initial travel and then ramps up progressively. Small bump sensitivity is great and I find that I am taking lines that are more root covered and rocky just because its so fun. The bike tracks straight and gains speed. The stock shock is great, but after two rides I added one red volume band. It makes it just a little more firm at the very bottom of the travel.

    As a whole package this bike is so good its hard to put into words. I am having so much fun riding that when I get to the bottom of a trail I want to turn around pedal back up and make another lap . The RFX really does everything well, from climbing to all out gnarly descents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    Ride reports?

    Really would like to hear thoughts on the suspension behavior from the RFX. Linear? Progressive? Behavior on small chatter vs bigger impacts, and how is that stock RS Debonair?
    The RFX feels like it has a very balanced progressive suspension curve. I'll notice the o-ring is bottomed out at the end of a run but not even notice it bottoming out while riding. The stock Debonair is pretty damn good. That said I wish I could reduce the low speed compression a few clicks. I have a medium tune on the Debonair. I imagine a DBair would feel even better on the RFX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster759 View Post
    The suspension is fantastic. Its very supple for the initial travel and then ramps up progressively. Small bump sensitivity is great and I find that I am taking lines that are more root covered and rocky just because its so fun. The bike tracks straight and gains speed. The stock shock is great, but after two rides I added one red volume band. It makes it just a little more firm at the very bottom of the travel.

    As a whole package this bike is so good its hard to put into words. I am having so much fun riding that when I get to the bottom of a trail I want to turn around pedal back up and make another lap . The RFX really does everything well, from climbing to all out gnarly descents.
    Sounds great; good up down and in-between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefmagic View Post
    The RFX feels like it has a very balanced progressive suspension curve. I'll notice the o-ring is bottomed out at the end of a run but not even notice it bottoming out while riding. The stock Debonair is pretty damn good. That said I wish I could reduce the low speed compression a few clicks. I have a medium tune on the Debonair. I imagine a DBair would feel even better on the RFX.
    The suspension curve you describe is just what I was hoping to hear. The stock Debonair comes with the medium compression tune doesn't it?
    I had a DBair on my Burner, it was the best performing shock I tried (when tuned properly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster759 View Post
    The suspension is fantastic. Its very supple for the initial travel and then ramps up progressively. Small bump sensitivity is great and I find that I am taking lines that are more root covered and rocky just because its so fun. The bike tracks straight and gains speed. The stock shock is great, but after two rides I added one red volume band. It makes it just a little more firm at the very bottom of the travel.

    As a whole package this bike is so good its hard to put into words. I am having so much fun riding that when I get to the bottom of a trail I want to turn around pedal back up and make another lap . The RFX really does everything well, from climbing to all out gnarly descents.
    Does the shock come with any internal bands already installed? I got the extra two bands that came with the shock. Like you, I am having no issues with bottom out, but do feel it goes through it travel to easily in two scenarios, maybe the bands can remedy this. For most of my rides, I am using the shock is in the middle shock lever setting so it already has extra compression. On moderate to steep non-technical climbs, I am loosing power useless I keep a very good pedal (quasi-light) stroke, but I am unfortunately a pedal masher. For example, you are hammering along flats, blasting away and then there is a 100yd climb in front of you that you just want to hammer up and get over it. However, if I overly mash the pedals, you can feel the suspension and you loose momentum. The second scenario are fast, slamming hard into corners and popping out of them. It feels at though I am too deep into the suspension resulting in a lethargic response when transferring to the next turn. Thoughts?

    BTW - bike rode much better with the 60mm stem.

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    My two cents having been on a dw spot and now a burner is you need a bit more air pressure in the shock

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinjp View Post
    My two cents having been on a dw spot and now a burner is you need a bit more air pressure in the shock
    Is this common? what sag do recommend? I am been using 30% on the nose. In addition, I thought the DW link was somewhat independent of sag?

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    30% sag is perfect. If you feel you need ramp-up, do it with volume reducers, not more pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    Is this common? what sag do recommend? I am been using 30% on the nose. In addition, I thought the DW link was somewhat independent of sag?
    I can't comment on the RFX, but in my experience on multiple Ibis DWL bikes, relatively small adjustments to sag makes a noticeable difference in the ride. I prefer to run less than 30% -- more like 27% -- on my last two DWLs (HD3 and HDR) for snappier pedaling and faster acceleration and better mid-stroke and bottom-out support. I prefer running a higher spring rate (less sag) rather than closing the compression circuits to get the mid/end stroke support I need. (I'm maxed out on volume reducers in my shock.) it's worth experimenting with.

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    i always think of recommended sag as a guideline, a great place to start and based on what you are describing and wanting, adding a tad more pressure may help. A little air goes a long way so try a small incremental change. i am guessing that you will find the much snappier pedaling somewhere around 26-27% sag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    Does the shock come with any internal bands already installed? I got the extra two bands that came with the shock. Like you, I am having no issues with bottom out, but do feel it goes through it travel to easily in two scenarios, maybe the bands can remedy this. For most of my rides, I am using the shock is in the middle shock lever setting so it already has extra compression. On moderate to steep non-technical climbs, I am loosing power useless I keep a very good pedal (quasi-light) stroke, but I am unfortunately a pedal masher. For example, you are hammering along flats, blasting away and then there is a 100yd climb in front of you that you just want to hammer up and get over it. However, if I overly mash the pedals, you can feel the suspension and you loose momentum. The second scenario are fast, slamming hard into corners and popping out of them. It feels at though I am too deep into the suspension resulting in a lethargic response when transferring to the next turn. Thoughts?

    BTW - bike rode much better with the 60mm stem.
    Yes, there are already four red volume bands installed with the medium tuned shock. I only added one more and it made all the difference for me. My approach to suspension tuning is that you set your sag and then adjust your settings from there. I see the volume spacers as an internal adjustment that is up to the rider to decide how they want it to feel. I don't think the volume bands affect sag, rather they reduce the allowable air volume within the shock when compressed. With having added an additional volume ring I now like how there is additional support at the bottom of the travel, but that I can still use all the travel.

    I have not even touched the blue compression setting lever, because I don't think its really needed. For me it pedals so well up hill and in general that I just leave it fully open.

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    Hi all, a question before i order a dropper seatpost. On a medium frame what is the maximum insertion lenght for the seatpost in the seat tube ? The indications on the Turnerbikes website seem not good, if someone can check on his frame it'd be nice.

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    I have a size Large and the insertion depth is 9.5 inches. Turner's website says 8.5 inches for a medium. For your consideration, I got my bike with a 125mm dropper post and couldn't get the leg extension I wanted, so I got a 150mm travel dropper post. The difference in length between a 125mm to 150mm post is 1 inch in travel and overall length. I don't think you would have a problem dropping the post to the collar and still get 125mm of travel post if that's what you were going for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster759 View Post
    Yes, there are already four red volume bands installed with the medium tuned shock. I only added one more and it made all the difference for me. My approach to suspension tuning is that you set your sag and then adjust your settings from there. I see the volume spacers as an internal adjustment that is up to the rider to decide how they want it to feel. I don't think the volume bands affect sag, rather they reduce the allowable air volume within the shock when compressed. With having added an additional volume ring I now like how there is additional support at the bottom of the travel, but that I can still use all the travel.

    I have not even touched the blue compression setting lever, because I don't think its really needed. For me it pedals so well up hill and in general that I just leave it fully open.
    Sorry for the hiatus- extremely busy 2 weeks. I did remove all of the air in the shock and then refilled it and the shock behaves much better. I also think it is broken in now. It is still an active system, but I can hammer with it. i need to be a little more focused on my pedal stroke at times. I am leaving it open much more. I am also appreciating the available traction for particular climbs.

    At the moment, I am still tinkering with the bar stem combo. I am close to it being finalized. I am trying a different set-ups for each ride so it takes some time, but I am closer. Leaning toward the 60mm over the 50m, because of the comfort and actually recognize the increase in stability.

    Thanks again for the input and recommendations!!!

    Cheers!

    I am really digging the RFX - it is a lot of fun!

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    @Dude, what is your weight and your shock pressure?

    I agree on the 60mm stem overall,
    As much as I like the steering with the 50mm,
    it feels a bit cramp when pedalling on the saddle.


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    Just got the call today from Turner. The third shipment of RFXs has arrived! Will post my build soon!

    So excited! !

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    Got my tracking #........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1soulrider View Post
    Got my tracking #........
    Aww yeah...

    Mine is en route as well.
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    Yes! Looking forward to everyone's thoughts. Please post up reports/impressions.

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    Black and Yellow RFX

    I added yellow fork decals and some mud.
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    According to DT, black rocker are 19.9% faster than the silver


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezwhip View Post
    Aww yeah...

    Mine is en route as well.
    Nice! It looks like Christmas is a couple days early this year.

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    That's what I said. ...early xmas! One bummer is I just had knee surgery today, so I'll have to stare at my RFX for a bit.

    Happy holidays:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by etacata View Post
    That's what I said. ...early xmas! One bummer is I just had knee surgery today, so I'll have to stare at my RFX for a bit.

    Happy holidays:-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by etacata View Post
    That's what I said. ...early xmas! One bummer is I just had knee surgery today, so I'll have to stare at my RFX for a bit.

    Happy holidays:-)
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    Thank you....I'll be building my new frame early next week and will post pics!

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    Another french one with black rockers :

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    mine ready for tomorrow ride too

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    Looks good Man, stick some matt black decals and it will look even sharper


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    @Dude, what is your weight and your shock pressure?

    I agree on the 60mm stem overall,
    As much as I like the steering with the 50mm,
    it feels a bit cramp when pedalling on the saddle.


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    I will have to get back to you on the air pressure. I am running 30% sag.

    I found 60mm with Chromag OSX 25mm rise and 1cm spacer under the stem works best. It feels a tad high when in the saddle, but I really like the higher front end when out of the saddle. I am surprised by this (as I tend to prefer lower front ends), but it feels more natural when manualing and getting the front end up in comfortable, controlled manner. I think higher front end maybe associated with the longer chainstays than I am use to. The Insurgent with the short chainstays and longer front center, feels very natural to manual off features or jumps owing to this as I feel time/control. The RFX feels like I have less time (not sure why), but the higher bars feel like it slows the process down. There is much better control on the downs with higher bars on the RFX.

    I am amazed at how well the RFX handles high-speed downs. When you flip the switch to open, it is very impressive in the manner it uses the suspension in the rough. On a night ride this week on one of the longer downs which had some new deep ruts from the recent rain - boy it just stuck to the ground allowing me to keep the speeds high.

    I had to re-learn corners a bit. Riding the longer Insurgent, you have to focus on all corners, pushing a tad harder into them. With the RFX, it corners so effortless that it threw me off. Turn your head and the bike is there. The work required to corner is much less with the RFX. For narrow, quick turns the RFXs maintain better speed and control. On faster, wide open corners, the Insurgent feels better. I am riding both bikes, both bikes are feeling more comfortable.

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    Thanks Dude
    I also have one spacer under the stem, it feels natural and easier to manual specially with the 50mm. However, it feels more balance with the 60mm.


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    nice bike Dude ... I too have the limited edition, classic, silver rockers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etacata View Post
    Just got the call today from Turner. The third shipment of RFXs has arrived! Will post my build soon!

    So excited! !
    But there are loyal customers who thought they were first batch that are still waiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    But there are loyal customers who thought they were first batch that are still waiting?
    LOL, I ordered from batch two in October. There is talk of mine being shipped soon.

    etacata failed to mentioned where they have arrived? At the port? In Marietta? At his house?

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    How are you guys liking the chain stay guard that comes on the frame? Is it burly enough to stave off chain nicks or is a covering/wrap needed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etacata View Post
    How are you guys liking the chain stay guard that comes on the frame? Is it burly enough to stave off chain nicks or is a covering/wrap needed?
    I added the 3M mastic tape to the top inside edge of the drive-side chainstay. It reduces chatter and nicks.

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    great!

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    @airwreck:
    Yeah, not sure about that.... my second batch frame is in route now....
    If I were waiting for a first batch frame I'd call for an update.
    Surprised to hear about third batch arriving so soon, but maybe it was rushed due to them selling so quickly?

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    I have no idea what batch my frame was in but my CC was dinged first week of Sept and is now on a UPS truck.

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    all these new bike shots, these things need to get flogged. haven't seen a muddy pic yet. However its nice to read nothing but good reviews, pretty stellar report card so far.

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    Either somebody at turner has a sense of humor or it's cheaper taxes on 29" stuff from Asia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    Either somebody at turner has a sense of humor or it's cheaper taxes on 29" stuff from Asia.


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    It's more fun to imagine the first scenario so I'm going with that.
    China Airlines Air Freight Sticker on yours? Just curious.
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    I don't actually have it in my possession, it's at a friend's house. He sent me that pic with a bunch of jokes about me buying 29ers.

    I'll check when I get ahold of it later today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    I had to re-learn corners a bit. Riding the longer Insurgent, you have to focus on all corners, pushing a tad harder into them. With the RFX, it corners so effortless that it threw me off. Turn your head and the bike is there. The work required to corner is much less with the RFX. For narrow, quick turns the RFXs maintain better speed and control. On faster, wide open corners, the Insurgent feels better. I am riding both bikes, both bikes are feeling more comfortable.
    Good looking RFX Dude!. I'm interested in more head to head comparisons between the Insurgent and RFX. You're in a pretty unique situation owning both at the same time. These two plus the Canfield Balance, GG Megatrail, and Knolly Delirium are on my list for a Chilcotin replacement.
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