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    Burner Build Thread

    Just got my production Burner frame so thought I better start off first.

    The drivetrain will be coming out of my parts bin, I want to see how I like the gearing on 650b before making any changes.

    Rider: 6'2", 175lb

    Frame Size & Color: XL Rawwwww
    Rear Shock: Fox CTD, Kashima
    Fork: Fox 34 Float black 150mm
    Brakes: Avid Elixir CR Mag
    Shifter: SRAM X.0 grip
    Cranks: Shimano XTR Triple
    Chainguide: None
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.9 medium
    Pedals: Shimano XTR
    Stem: Easton Haven 55mm
    Handlebar: Bontrager X Lite flat
    Seatpost: KS Lev 100mm drop
    Saddle: Specialized Phenom
    Bottom Bracket: Shimano XTR
    Chainring: 22-32-bash
    Cassette: Shimano XTR, 11-34
    Headset: Cane Creek 40
    Grips: Oury
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf, 2.35
    Front Rim: Stan's Arch EX
    Front Hub: Hope black 32H, 15QR
    Rear Tire: Maxxis Ardent 2.25
    Rear Rim: Stan's Arch EX
    Rear Hub: Hope black 32H, 142X12

    Weight 7.38lb for the frame, shock, seatpost clamp and rear axle.
    Build weight is just over 29lb
    Wheelbase is 47"
    BB height is 13.25"








    Last edited by 6thElement; 01-11-2013 at 02:43 PM.
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Build it up man!

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    I believe (unless I missed it) that this is the first PRODUCTION Burner frame I've seen posted-looks great! I've been picking up parts all winter to add to the stuff I already have and I'm about ready to order a frame. I'll be really interested in your impressions of this bike...Congrats!

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    Build is at an impasse waiting on the fork and headset buildkit from Turner, due to be delivered today. Should have it ready this evening
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Aha - now I know why you played the "sick card" and bailed on our ride last night.

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    Sweet looking frame! Be sure to post pictures of the finished build

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    OP updated with the build complete, still working on handlebar height etc. hence the donut holder. Bar drop isn't as bad as the photos make it look, but it is nearly an inch more than I've been running on my 29ers.

    Weather isn't cooperating for a proper test this weekend...
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Central Park?

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    That's quite a parts bin! Looks like the perfect NYC commuter bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement View Post
    OP updated with the build complete, still working on handlebar height etc. hence the donut holder. Bar drop isn't as bad as the photos make it look, but it is nearly an inch more than I've been running on my 29ers.

    Weather isn't cooperating for a proper test this weekend...
    Nice photo shoot in Central Park! I am sure you must have gotten some quizzical looks.

    Great looking bike and am looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the bike in the Westchester terrain.

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    Looks like Rat Rock in Central Park- Old School (1990's) Trials Mecca!!

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    Good...Looking...Bike!

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    Man, I'd worry about getting mugged carrying that much bling around Central Park.

    If only the muggers knew how much that bike was worth.

    Nice build John. Looks great. Can't wait to hear your ride impressions.
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    good luck with the build! I'll be visiting NY in April and will be bringing my Burner so maybe we can meet up. Could you show me around some of the trails?

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    i like it. i like it lot. i'm very curious about the seemingly long wheelbase - 47 in for a 150mm bike - especially for you at 6 ft 2 in - how is the burner gonna climb? aren't you going to be super streched out to get weight over both wheels? did you have a tough call between large and XL? looking forward to your reviews and enjoy that bike!

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    After finally getting out on mine today after looking at it shiney new for a couple of weeks waiting for the weather to break I can confirm something.

    I've bought an assault weapon.

    The frame combined with the Fox 34 gives so much confidence, at speed through baby heads, or off drops I was loving it. Coming off several years only riding XC on 29ers I didn't notice any dimished rollover ability with this setup. The slacker headangle will take some getting used to on the steeper switchback climbs. But it gives sooooo much confidence pointed downhill and allowed me to hit a couple of drops I'd always skipped on previous bikes.

    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement View Post
    After finally getting out on mine today after looking at it shiney new for a couple of weeks waiting for the weather to break I can confirm something.

    I've bought an assault weapon.

    The frame combined with the Fox 34 gives so much confidence, at speed through baby heads, or off drops I was loving it. Coming off several years only riding XC on 29ers I didn't notice any dimished rollover ability with this setup. The slacker headangle will take some getting used to on the steeper switchback climbs. But it gives sooooo much confidence pointed downhill and allowed me to hit a couple of drops I'd always skipped on previous bikes.

    Have you ridden a Sultan? I am curious in how it rides compared to a Sultan. I like the Sultan's ability to monster truck over obstacles, but I think I would like a bike that is more playful.
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    I spent 5 years on a TNT Sultan, demoed the original DW version in '08.

    So far I'm loving the Burner, it has the monster truck ability with the 34 and the playfulness.
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Man, I'd worry about getting mugged carrying that much bling around Central Park.

    If only the muggers knew how much that bike was worth.

    Nice build John. Looks great. Can't wait to hear your ride impressions.
    So you wouldn't leave it hanging around here then?
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Got out for a solid 3 hour ride again today, giving the Burner a solid test on tech chunk and climbing in the Blue Mountain rocks, 16miles for 2350ft of climbing.

    It climbs really well, particularly on steep sharp little tech moves where if you can turn the cranks, it can climb it. I cleaned a couple of little moves I've always struggled with.


    Pedal strikes aren't a problem, just need to ratchet those cranks


    It laughs at 3ft drops.
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    How do you like the Ardent 2.25 as a rear tire so far?

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    Okay as long as the ground isn't too loose, not so good on the frost heave when climbing, not so good on off camber downhill corners which are muddy But it performs how I'd expect, another HD with the bigger knobs would remove those traits but I don't think I'd want the likely increase in RR.

    Edit: I wouldn't mind trying a nobby nic on the back to see how that compares.
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement View Post
    So you wouldn't leave it hanging around here then?
    Not even sure I'd get off the train at that stop without an armed body guard.

    You coming out west this year? I'll likely be in Moab sometime this Spring. Let me know.
    I'll let you try my Chili if you let me try your Burner.

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    Was sure I'd answered your Moab question with a negative
    I was there in late 2011, so doubtful for this year.

    Longest ride yet on the Burner today, 30 miles of fun in the cold and snow. I'm loving the ability of this bike, going up and coming down. I'm clearing technical climbs that I struggled or couldn't make before and heading downhill is just point and shoot.

    A few snaps from the day

    Out on the monster trail at Blue Mountain, Peekskill, NY.

    My occasional audience

    The odd icy patch

    I'll be dammed
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    That looks like about an 80 foot drop-off?

    Seriously though, nice bike, nice trails, beautiful nature.

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