Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 62
  1. #1
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248

    Bettys vs Advantage

    Simply curious here on the advantages....chad sent a couple pics last night and noted that there was a shortage on the Bettys so he went with Advantages. I honestly dont care as I am sure both are great......I just have not heard much about the Advantages, though they look cool in the pics and that is all that matters!!!!!

    Is there a sort of general pro and con of the two when compared?

    cheers

  2. #2
    Bodhisattva
    Reputation: The Squeaky Wheel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    10,269
    Pro: I have Bettys
    Pro: You don't

    I like knowing that our bikes remain 100% different
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”

    ― Albert Einstein

  3. #3
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Pro: I have Bettys
    Pro: You don't

    I like knowing that our bikes remain 100% different
    LOL....

    funny you mention that. i was actually upset yesterday when i realized i could in fact NOT make the statement that every single part we discussed i went AGAINST your advice....minus the tires. Now I can say that there is not a single part we discussed that i went with your recommendation! The Anti Squeaky build!!!

    me "dude, i am getting heavy asss bars and stem cause they are white"
    you "dude, you are retarded....they will be swapped out immediately"
    me "STFU, i am going with it cause they look cool to me"

    me "i aint getting no phaggy gravity dropper"
    you "STFU, you will get one"
    me "no, YOU STFU....I will NEVER get one you stupid ahole"

    me "dude, i am getting some heavy ass brakes cause i like their looks"
    you "dude, you are truly an idiot. just get some J7 brakes or something logical. that build will be so heavy"
    me "STFU, I dont care what you say, heavier brakes tend to look cooler"

    me "dude, i went with I9s after all"
    you "whatever"

    me "dude, i am gonna get a chainguide just cause."
    you "they are lame, you dont need one"
    me "they look cool so STFU"

    you "Lyrik, Lyrik, Lyrik you idiot"
    me "nah...they dont have white lowers and i dont like the way they look"
    you "Lyrik, Lyrik, Lyrik"
    me "ha ha...what a POS'
    you "i think i will be getting a lyrik coil now"

    to name a few examples....

  4. #4
    -> SickLines.com <-
    Reputation: mtb_biker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    3,213
    i've never ran the big bettys but the Advantage 2.4's I have used worked well and hook up quite nicely. They hold strong in the corners and have a nice profile. The tire casing is pretty strong and it feels really nice in the lower psi's. I have only really used them in damp conditions (not quite tacky) and they worked quite well.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  5. #5
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_biker
    i've never ran the big bettys but the Advantage 2.4's I have used worked well and hook up quite nicely. They hold strong in the corners and have a nice profile. The tire casing is pretty strong and it feels really nice in the lower psi's. I have only really used them in damp conditions (not quite tacky) and they worked quite well.
    thanks for the info! dude, your site is cool in regards to all the weights....thanks for the input

  6. #6
    Natl. Champ DH Poser/Hack
    Reputation: cactuscorn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    12,942
    blow mezzle: i spent a day on the advantages in moab and dug em, alot! dont think i once broke traction without inducin it. some who have done less of a gravity ride with em say they roll badly, slowly, heavily. they werent a rocket on the ups but i didnt spend too much time goin anything but downhill that day. ive still got my min-yuns if need be.
    No, I'm NOT back!

  7. #7
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    blow mezzle: i spent a day on the advantages in moab and dug em, alot! dont think i once broke traction without inducin it. some who have done less of a gravity ride with em say they roll badly, slowly, heavily. they werent a rocket on the ups but i didnt spend too much time goin anything but downhill that day. ive still got my min-yuns if need be.
    thanks dawg...i am pretty stoked, especially since they are not what squeaky would pick

  8. #8
    No, that's not phonetic
    Reputation: tscheezy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    14,363
    So what's the Advantage compound? I have a really hard time going back to a regular 60 duro compound in dry conditions (Utah road trips) now after having run stickies for a few years. The Highrollers on the Highline (60A?) I thought were just terrible on slickrock and the Bettys (non-glooey) on Crash's 6-Pack just buzzed and vibrated and did not hook up that well on Gooseberry Shinarump conglomerate/sandstone and gravel. Sticky tires aren't great in back, but they sure are nice in front.

    I didn't spend enough time on the Advantage to get a real feel for it.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

  9. #9
    Bodhisattva
    Reputation: The Squeaky Wheel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    10,269
    You are getting trigger shifters like I told you, right?
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”

    ― Albert Einstein

  10. #10
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    You are getting trigger shifters like I told you, right?
    LOL....shut up. yeah, i forgot that too...trigger shifters are for gravity dropping douche bags

  11. #11
    rr
    rr is offline
    I don't do PC
    Reputation: rr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    7,401
    I hear the Adv's were designed by Alison Dunlap so you know they will be great XC tires, should go well with your XC wheels and handle extreme gravel paths nicely.

  12. #12
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    I hear the Adv's were designed by Alison Dunlap so you know they will be great XC tires, should go well with your XC wheels and handle extreme gravel paths nicely.
    nice one!....b1tch!

  13. #13
    trail fairy
    Reputation: trailadvent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    9,554
    LOL....

    funny you mention that. i was actually upset yesterday when i realized i could in fact NOT make the statement that every single part we discussed i went AGAINST your advice....minus the tires. Now I can say that there is not a single part we discussed that i went with your recommendation! The Anti Squeaky build!!!

    me "dude, i am getting heavy asss bars and stem cause they are white"
    you "dude, you are retarded....they will be swapped out immediately"
    me "STFU, i am going with it cause they look cool to me"

    me "i aint getting no phaggy gravity dropper"
    you "STFU, you will get one"
    me "no, YOU STFU....I will NEVER get one you stupid ahole"

    me "dude, i am getting some heavy ass brakes cause i like their looks"
    you "dude, you are truly an idiot. just get some J7 brakes or something logical. that build will be so heavy"
    me "STFU, I dont care what you say, heavier brakes tend to look cooler"

    me "dude, i went with I9s after all"
    you "whatever"

    me "dude, i am gonna get a chainguide just cause."
    you "they are lame, you dont need one"
    me "they look cool so STFU"

    you "Lyrik, Lyrik, Lyrik you idiot"
    me "nah...they dont have white lowers and i dont like the way they look"
    you "Lyrik, Lyrik, Lyrik"
    me "ha ha...what a POS'
    you "i think i will be getting a lyrik coil now"

    to name a few examples....
    FO Im gonna save ya here buddy youre being lined up to have the slowest RFX in hommer ville if you go with those squirmy Advantages!

    get the BBs if ya can and find a black marker pen to change the name to FO Bettys or something so ya differnt from Squeak now that'd be real custom

    If ya don't want BBs get the new Minion triple compound 2.5 up front and run a Minion rear 2.35 or 2.5 standard dhr, Ive already found that with our awesome heavy bar and stem combo that I need a bigger 2.5, my 2.5 wtb weirwolf is hanging in there but Ive had some sketchy moments in sandy corners, Mins will kick those advantages, in saying that if traction is what ya want then the advantages might be better, but where talking .%s I just shift my weight and use the old technique thing we did before we had Turners

    Go the Chad yeahaaaa
    Just riding a muddy trail. . ..

    MAXXIS 4C!
    Helmet for your neck

    Leatt FAQs


  14. #14
    FleshwoundGravityResearch
    Reputation: mtn hack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    1,285
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    LOL....

    funny you mention that. i was actually upset yesterday when i realized i could in fact NOT make the statement that every single part we discussed i went AGAINST your advice....minus the tires. Now I can say that there is not a single part we discussed that i went with your recommendation! The Anti Squeaky build!!!

    you "Lyrik, Lyrik, Lyrik you idiot"
    me "nah...they dont have white lowers and i dont like the way they look"
    you "Lyrik, Lyrik, Lyrik"
    me "ha ha...what a POS'
    you "i think i will be getting a lyrik coil now"

    to name a few examples....
    me "ha ha...what a POS'
    you "i think i will be getting a lyrik coil now"

    Uhh, don't you mean 66SL?

  15. #15
    Bike Snob
    Reputation: can't get right's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,256
    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    So what's the Advantage compound? I have a really hard time going back to a regular 60 duro compound in dry conditions (Utah road trips) now after having run stickies for a few years. The Highrollers on the Highline (60A?) I thought were just terrible on slickrock and the Bettys (non-glooey) on Crash's 6-Pack just buzzed and vibrated and did not hook up that well on Gooseberry Shinarump conglomerate/sandstone and gravel. Sticky tires aren't great in back, but they sure are nice in front.

    I didn't spend enough time on the Advantage to get a real feel for it.

    You said Shinarump, hehehehehe

  16. #16
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    5,431
    Dude, Maxxis is such a pedestrian brand. Schwalbe currently has a much higher bling factor.

    Isn't that what this RFX is all about?

    Run 'em backwards and claim that makes it a totally different spec than Squeak!

    The only way to top the BB's would be to find a desirable tire from a really cool, obscure brand like Vredestein.
    Whining is not a strategy.

  17. #17
    RaD
    RaD is offline
    Trampelpfadbenutzer
    Reputation: RaD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    690
    I had used the Bettys for about 6-7 month and I honestly really hated them.They are the most numb feeling cornering tire I had ever owned besides the old Tioga Factory DHs.The performance in the wet is not the best too as is traction on the wet rocks around here.
    Positive about them is they are relative lightweight and have a good sidewall protection but thats about it.They simply don't work for me at my home soil even they are developed here in my country.But this seems to have a good tradition with me as I hate german made POS like Magura,Nicolai and that like....The GooeyGlooey compound does not feel as sticky as it should be,it just feels not as sticky as a 40 or 42 compound Maxxis for example or Michelin SC but works ok and wears good.The ORC compound was also ok and long living but I had issues with my rear tire wich developed a unbalance in the carcase over time.
    The Advantages I am runing right know feel much better to me,they handle much closer to the Minions and Highrollers in the corners but are lighter rolling and more neutral handling than those.They simply rail better than the Bettys,feels more controlled.Braking performance feels subjectively similar.An other big plus to me is the typical damped feeling when the tire hits an obstacel like roots or rocks only a Maxxis tires provides.The tire is lighter than the Betty and has thinner sidewalls but the whole tire builds much higher above the rim and this added volume works great as protection.I flated the tires two times since I own them (about 4 month now)with zero damage at the sidewall wich is a good result in my book.
    Again,I seem to hate those Schwalbe tires and feel much more positive with the Advantage 2.4 with their 60 compound is IMHO "the" Trailbike tire at the market right now.
    I would wish there would be an option for the 3C compound avaible wich would make them even better....

    Later
    RaD

  18. #18
    trail fairy
    Reputation: trailadvent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    9,554
    I have just the tire its a prototype homer tire, production will see a red and white version

    Go the Chad
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Just riding a muddy trail. . ..

    MAXXIS 4C!
    Helmet for your neck

    Leatt FAQs


  19. #19
    Time flies...
    Reputation: xjbebop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    2,211

    wow!

    ...he did write "Shinarump conglomerate", didn't he...
    ...every day sends future to past...

  20. #20
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by mtn hack
    Uhh, don't you mean 66SL?
    LOL....nope, and there is more to it than that but I promised I would not kiss and tell so I musn't......

    EDIT: Just noticed squeaky did the "telling" in the shock forum. y'all kick just kick him in his ass on the way out now! Or perhaps i missed him post it here as well.
    Last edited by FoShizzle; 11-11-2006 at 03:28 PM.

  21. #21
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    FO Im gonna save ya here buddy youre being lined up to have the slowest RFX in hommer ville if you go with those squirmy Advantages!

    get the BBs if ya can and find a black marker pen to change the name to FO Bettys or something so ya differnt from Squeak now that'd be real custom

    If ya don't want BBs get the new Minion triple compound 2.5 up front and run a Minion rear 2.35 or 2.5 standard dhr, Ive already found that with our awesome heavy bar and stem combo that I need a bigger 2.5, my 2.5 wtb weirwolf is hanging in there but Ive had some sketchy moments in sandy corners, Mins will kick those advantages, in saying that if traction is what ya want then the advantages might be better, but where talking .%s I just shift my weight and use the old technique thing we did before we had Turners

    Go the Chad yeahaaaa
    thanks man....i think i will stick with the advantages as they are already on the bike and see how much it affects climbing. I will not know any different as it has been about a year for me since i have been on a FS geared bike....lookin forward to it!

    besides, among many other things like sub 360 gram bars, sub 310 gram stem, fast rolling tires are for biatches!

  22. #22
    Natl. Champ DH Poser/Hack
    Reputation: cactuscorn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    12,942
    allow me to edit this for ya fo:

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    I will not know any different as it has been about a year for me since i have been on a bike....
    you can thank me later.

    ps: i hear spring comes in like a albino lyon. any truth to that?
    No, I'm NOT back!

  23. #23
    mtbr member
    Reputation: CrashTheDOG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    2,443
    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    So what's the Advantage compound? I have a really hard time going back to a regular 60 duro compound in dry conditions (Utah road trips) now after having run stickies for a few years.
    The ADvantage is currently offered only in 60A. I replaced the Big Betty I was running in the rear with an ADvantage and have gotten 4-6 rides on it including several laps down the Barrels and out on Little Creek's outer loop. The traction is excellent, cornering is stellar, and I've been very impressed with the abuse the sidewall has taken without tearing or allowing a flat when I cased a jump and nearly destroyed my DT 6.1 rim. They appear to be wearing much better (slower) than the BB or the Nevegal DTC which is to be expected with the 60A compound. El Chingon complains that the rolling resistance is higher, but I didn't notice any difference and we both came off of BB's. I haven't run either up front but in the rear I'd give the advantage to... well the ADvantage.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  24. #24
    Natl. Champ DH Poser/Hack
    Reputation: cactuscorn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    12,942
    this is good news as i have a set waitin for me in the build box.

    slightly off topic: i just got news today that our little sammy is now hooked up with maxis. no money but free tires for breakfast, lunch and dinner! way to go sammy!

    way more off topic: the person who told me was sam's dad mark whos currently laid up for the next 6 weeks with a busted back. L-5 was busted clean in half when a tractor he was drivin got away from him on a steep road and eventually flipped on top of him. the doctors say hell be 100% in time so thats good news. considerin what hes been through he looks pretty good and is recoverin at home with the help of family and friends.
    No, I'm NOT back!

  25. #25
    Lay off the Levers
    Reputation: Bikezilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    10,132
    Shiz you crack me up man. This thread is a riot.
    Re the tires... I don't care if they grip like velcro and roll like slicks, if it ain't UST I'm not interested. I'd even roll a UST with a tube before I go back to a pu$$y walled tire like the Nevegals again.

    As for the Gravity "retarder", bring your arse out East where each roller or drop is immediately followed by an equivalent climb and I bet you'll be trying to steal the first GD you see in in the parking lot.
    Faster is better, even when it's not.

  26. #26
    trail fairy
    Reputation: trailadvent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    9,554
    thanks man....i think i will stick with the advantages as they are already on the bike and see how much it affects climbing. I will not know any different as it has been about a year for me since i have been on a FS geared bike....lookin forward to it!
    No worries bro I hear ya, youre not gonna be disapointed i mean maybe you will be without those sex welds but the ride is gonna blow you away, my RFX is now my choice of wheels I love my Spot but shes in the bike room for a bit now, give us a review of those tires when ya hooked up on ya shake down ride, the tire clearance on there won't be a issue thats for sure my 2.35 minion looks like a 1.85 skinny back there with the sixe of these stays, just beautiful

    besides, among many other things like sub 360 gram bars, sub 310 gram stem, fast rolling tires are for biatches!
    yeah i do like the ride of a big tire but I still like it to roll for me and not roll at me i'll stick to my minions and nobby niccs at the rear, mins and big bettys up front the bars are awesome not coming off my puppy, if ya don't like white too bad these rock, you will be impressed

    way more off topic: the person who told me was sam's dad mark whos currently laid up for the next 6 weeks with a busted back. L-5 was busted clean in half when a tractor he was drivin got away from him on a steep road and eventually flipped on top of him. the doctors say hell be 100% in time so thats good news. considerin what hes been through he looks pretty good and is recoverin at home with the help of family and friends.
    hay cc i hope he gets well soon dude, I broke L3 and L2 a few years back its not much fun and he should be good my backs as strong as ever but then my doctor said my spine was very impressive ah she said
    Just riding a muddy trail. . ..

    MAXXIS 4C!
    Helmet for your neck

    Leatt FAQs


  27. #27
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Turtle 1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,145
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    thanks for the info! dude, your site is cool in regards to all the weights....thanks for the input
    I just put Betty's on my bike, I'll find out how they work in wet weather tomrrow. Ride the Advantage and see if you like it, if not, let me know and maybe we can trade. I hope the trails Rad's riding are different from what they have up here in the PNW.

  28. #28
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    358
    I have run both Advantage and BB for a while.
    I like Advantage on dry, rocky, dusty trails. Rolling terrain, not to techy climbs. THey have too thin sidewall so I can't have the low tirepressure I usually have to get good enough grip. Put in some wet in the equation and I don't like them too much. For long rides or enduros(nice word) they are good cause they give you an easy-rolling tire that is light,
    And I cut sidewalls on both tires on a rocky 6-hours ride. Not good. they are too light for the volume they offer. Give them to me in a 42a compound, 2.35 with and 50grams heavier and I would love them!

    BB: with GG-rubber roll like they have sirup stuck to them. But, they have thicker sidewall and can be run with nice tirepressures(30-32lbs for my 190lbs weight) and stick to everything. They give lots of grip, even in wet stuff... but the GG-compoung wears out a little too quickly in the rear.

    I will run BB with Gooey Glooey in front and the second "softest" compound in the rear to have a little more life in them.
    ----------------------------------------
    Jorgen
    Trondheim, Norway
    Spec Stumpy Comp FSR 29er
    Turner DHR 2005, drilled

  29. #29
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Turtle 1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,145
    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen
    I have run both Advantage and BB for a while.
    I like Advantage on dry, rocky, dusty trails. Rolling terrain, not to techy climbs. THey have too thin sidewall so I can't have the low tirepressure I usually have to get good enough grip. Put in some wet in the equation and I don't like them too much. For long rides or enduros(nice word) they are good cause they give you an easy-rolling tire that is light,
    And I cut sidewalls on both tires on a rocky 6-hours ride. Not good. they are too light for the volume they offer. Give them to me in a 42a compound, 2.35 with and 50grams heavier and I would love them!

    BB: with GG-rubber roll like they have sirup stuck to them. But, they have thicker sidewall and can be run with nice tirepressures(30-32lbs for my 190lbs weight) and stick to everything. They give lots of grip, even in wet stuff... but the GG-compoung wears out a little too quickly in the rear.

    I will run BB with Gooey Glooey in front and the second "softest" compound in the rear to have a little more life in them.
    Hey Jorgen-I agree, the BB's work good in the wet-they're keepers for sure.

  30. #30
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    it think it boils down to......so long as Squeaky Wheel rides Bettys, the Advantages are a superior tire by a mile!

  31. #31
    Bodhisattva
    Reputation: The Squeaky Wheel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    10,269
    FoJerkOff,

    As of yesterday I am now running one Advantage & one Big Betty.

    Enjoy those Kendas
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”

    ― Albert Einstein

  32. #32
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Turtle 1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,145
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    it think it boils down to......so long as Squeaky Wheel rides Bettys, the Advantages are a superior tire by a mile!
    Understood I'd like to hear hear what you think of the Advantage when you get your bike on the trail-I'm hoping they'll be my Spring/Summer season tire.

  33. #33
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    FoJerkOff,

    As of yesterday I am now running one Advantage & one Big Betty.

    Enjoy those Kendas
    liar!

  34. #34
    Bite Me.
    Reputation: cutthroat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    4,529
    I ran the Advantages front and rear on the last trip to Moab - Porc Rim and Poison Spider. Great on the descents, grippy in the turns, lots of cush due to the very high profile. I'm not a huge jumper but on the jumps I did do (e.g. the stairs steps directly above the Diving Board on Porc Rim) had great landings, the tire just added to the plushness of the suspension. No pinch flats or sidewall damage. I'm around 180 and ran them at 38#. The downside was the rolling resistance on climbing and on the road - for long double track grinds they're just deadweight, plenty of traction on hop ups and ledges, but you really have to muscle the wheels around. This is a very slow tire.
    When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. ~H.G. Wells

  35. #35
    Outcast
    Reputation: Renegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    8,563
    Fo' ,WTF? You don't give a sheeit about weight with your other components, but you'll use single ply tires on your freeride bike? All that blingy stuff you're buying won't mean dick if the most important component; where the bling meets the dirt, is a pansy-ass xc weight weenie tire. What are you smoking?
    ****

  36. #36
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Turtle 1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,145
    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat
    I ran the Advantages front and rear on the last trip to Moab - Porc Rim and Poison Spider. Great on the descents, grippy in the turns, lots of cush due to the very high profile. I'm not a huge jumper but on the jumps I did do (e.g. the stairs steps directly above the Diving Board on Porc Rim) had great landings, the tire just added to the plushness of the suspension. No pinch flats or sidewall damage. I'm around 180 and ran them at 38#. The downside was the rolling resistance on climbing and on the road - for long double track grinds they're just deadweight, plenty of traction on hop ups and ledges, but you really have to muscle the wheels around. This is a very slow tire.
    Maxxis told me the Advantage was close to being like the Minion; Minion is my favorite tire. I'd like to have a single ply 2.5 minion but I can't find one; heard they have them overseas but they don't import to the US. I ride slow, but I don't need extra rolling resistence on the climbs. But then again, I don't do rides with super long/steep climbs. I heard the Advantage corners well-sounds like a cool tire. Both you and Rad said the same thing about the tire having a lot of cush.

  37. #37
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo
    Dude, Maxxis is such a pedestrian brand. Schwalbe currently has a much higher bling factor.

    Isn't that what this RFX is all about?

    Run 'em backwards and claim that makes it a totally different spec than Squeak!

    The only way to top the BB's would be to find a desirable tire from a really cool, obscure brand like Vredestein.
    LOL...you are right, which is why i went that route originally.

    having said that, Bling is second only to the anti-Squeaky factor thus, the Advantage wins out since that friggin douchebag runs Bettys. In fact, it is the only way he ever gets any action with the Bettys.

  38. #38
    Bodhisattva
    Reputation: The Squeaky Wheel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    10,269
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    LOL...you are right, which is why i went that route originally.

    having said that, Bling is second only to the anti-Squeaky factor thus, the Advantage wins out since that friggin douchebag runs Bettys. In fact, it is the only way he ever gets any action with the Bettys.
    But these tires go against your goal of having the heaviest RFX anywhere.

    Poser - you'll fit in great around here
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”

    ― Albert Einstein

  39. #39
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Fo' ,WTF? You don't give a sheeit about weight with your other components, but you'll use single ply tires on your freeride bike? All that blingy stuff you're buying won't mean dick if the most important component; where the bling meets the dirt, is a pansy-ass xc weight weenie tire. What are you smoking?
    point well taken.....and just to let you know, for the official weigh in today I have asked Chad to put on some sweet 1.9 tires and Am Classic wheels.

  40. #40
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat
    This is a very slow tire.
    sweet! that is great news. will be that much sweeter when I make it to the top first!

  41. #41
    Outcast
    Reputation: Renegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    8,563
    No single ply tire will ever give you the performance of a tire with a dh casing. So what if it rolls slower; you ride a bike for exercise, right? You don't ride a freeride bike uphill for the climbing performance, you ride it uphill to SLAY and SHRED the descents!
    I'm currently rolling these specialized pinn'er pro 2.3's as my xc tires:

    ****

  42. #42
    Team Sanchez
    Reputation: El Chingon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    4,364
    Thumbs up to the Advantage. Cornering performance is really all I care about, and the Advantage outshines the Nevy, and BB. I have now moved my Advantage to the front, and I prefer it to the 2.5 Nevy that it replaced for hardpack techy riding. As others have mentioned, they do roll slow.

  43. #43
    rr
    rr is offline
    I don't do PC
    Reputation: rr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    7,401
    Rene- do you really ride those heavy arsed DH tires around everywhere? Put some XC weenie tires on that rig for trail riding and you could probably have an extra Czar the night before!

  44. #44
    Outcast
    Reputation: Renegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    8,563
    after I've tried out and learned to dislike the lastest weight weenie tire-du-jour, I put some dh rubber back on the bike and suffer some more, and enjoy the stoke. My rides, especially this time of year, tend to be shorter, so I don't mind the extra work. It's not like the rest of my bike is exactly light or xc-weight weenie. I think I'm pushing 38 pounds with single ply tires.
    For me, it ain't about how far I ride, but how much I enjoy the ripping.
    ****

  45. #45
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    Thumbs up to the Advantage. Cornering performance is really all I care about, and the Advantage outshines the Nevy, and BB. I have now moved my Advantage to the front, and I prefer it to the 2.5 Nevy that it replaced for hardpack techy riding. As others have mentioned, they do roll slow.
    Thanks El C however, you must be referring to XC cornering per Renegade's words of wisdom

  46. #46
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    after I've tried out and learned to dislike the lastest weight weenie tire-du-jour, I put some dh rubber back on the bike and suffer some more, and enjoy the stoke. My rides, especially this time of year, tend to be shorter, so I don't mind the extra work. It's not like the rest of my bike is exactly light or xc-weight weenie. I think I'm pushing 38 pounds with single ply tires.
    For me, it ain't about how far I ride, but how much I enjoy the ripping.
    and you then also have more of an excuse to whine about taking so long to get to the top

  47. #47
    Team Sanchez
    Reputation: El Chingon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    4,364
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Thanks El C however, you must be referring to XC cornering per Renegade's words of wisdom
    Of course, afterall I do run 50 psi in my rear tire.

  48. #48
    Outcast
    Reputation: Renegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    8,563
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    and you then also have more of an excuse to whine about taking so long to get to the top
    when you ride alone 99.98% of the time, not only is there no one to whine to, there is no reason to whine. I'm allways the first to the top!
    ****

  49. #49
    Neg reppers r my biatches
    Reputation: FoShizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    17,248
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    when you ride alone 99.98% of the time, not only is there no one to whine to, there is no reason to whine. I'm allways the first to the top!
    LOL....so what you are saying then is that you always beat yourself

  50. #50
    Outcast
    Reputation: Renegade's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    8,563
    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    Of course, afterall I do run 50 psi in my rear tire.
    There's another reason I like dh rubber; lower PSI. I'm also a paultry 185'ish pounds stark nek'ed, so I don't have to go more than 35 psi in most singly ply tires.
    ****

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •