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    Smile Barny rides again...

    After a bit of a bike hiatus, Barny is back in the saddle. She loved her XCE, but we sold it to a good home down in NorCal, so it was time for a new steed. What else? A 5-Spot!

    We took it on its maiden voyage (no pun intended) this afternoon after work. The light was fading so the pics are a little grainy, but I will add more (including action shots- you know me ) in due course.

















    Showing the skilz have not faded:

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    The shiny bits:

    * Frame Size & Color: Small 5-Spot, matte black w/ DHX Air
    * Fork: Pike Dual Air
    * Brakes: Magura FR 180/160
    * Cranks: Old school XTR w/ LX spider to run compact rings, Salsa bashring
    * Bottom Bracket: XTR
    * Front Derailleur: XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X.9
    * Pedals: Sh!mano 959
    * Stem: Thomson Elite 100x5
    * Handlebar: Easton Monkeylite Carbon
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite 410mm
    * Saddle: WTB Laser Stealth Ti
    * Cassette: XT 11-34
    * Headset: King
    * Grips: ODI lockons
    * Front Tire: Nokian Dual 2.3
    * Front Rim: Syncros DP25
    * Front Hub/Skewer: King ISO 20mm
    * Rear Tire: Nokian Dual 2.3
    * Rear Rim: Syncros DP25
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: King ISO/Salsa

    Oh yeah, THANKS LARRY, THANKS DT!!
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    sweet bike...congrats

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    Very nice

    Great news, glad to hear it. May it bring Barny miles of smiles. The build definitely reeks of your preferences, all the good stuff.

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    wow. i didnt know you could put a lx spyder on 952's. i just tried a xt and it was a definate no go. always thought the spline on the xtr was half the thickness of lx and xt and the lower profile of the 952 arm required the spyder to have a path cut into it to avoid interference. did ya do somethin special or was i wrong all this time? like thats news to everyone.

    i just scored a 4 arm compact xtr spyder and e 13 bash guard for my 952's from BTI. mounted it up this afternoon with some bontrager rings i had layin around and man it looks sweet plus it gives me the 22/32 i wanted and wasnt sure i could get till last week. just a few more bits and ill be ready for the frame to show up. i just approved the color sample dt sent so it wont be long now. well acctually odus approved it with a sniff and a lick so it must be ok.

    great lookin ride ms cheese. love the black anno! one of the reasons its so hard to part with my homegrown frame.
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    WHAT??? I can't believe it's already there and built. That's funny, the tracking # said "scheduled delivery October 28". That's cool, glad to see it's built up and she's already riding it.
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    The LX spider did need some heavy mods to work. They are thicker than the XTR crank wants to accept with grace.

    Yeah, I was surprised as all heck to see the Brown Santa radar showing the box going from SoCal to Kentucky to Anchorage in about two business days. Just a short hop to Kodiak from there and it was on the porch by noon, 3 days early. I took a pile of parts I had left after the sale of my XCE frame, swiped the fork off my Spot (and put the 04 Z1 [thanks again, Larry ] back on that bike) and had the sucker built in about 90 minutes. Barny DIGS it. "It's so squishy!" That's Barnyspeak for stupid-plush.
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    kinda thought so cheese. that musta been a helluvalotta work, man! impressive stuff as usual.

    heres the fix if the rest of you dont have whatever magic he has in his tool box. just ask yer lbs for BTI part # SH-20601. is a spyder/adaptor to fit a XTR 953/750 crank and mount compact 64/104 bc rings. its black and its beautiful and will set ya back about $45 or $50.
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    That matte black is just very well done. I'm surprised you went with the DHX air instead of your beloved RP3.
    Good to see the romance has returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    wow. i didnt know you could put a lx spyder on 952's. i just tried a xt and it was a definate no go. always thought the spline on the xtr was half the thickness of lx and xt and the lower profile of the 952 arm required the spyder to have a path cut into it to avoid interference. did ya do somethin special or was i wrong all this time? like thats news to everyone.

    i just scored a 4 arm compact xtr spyder and e 13 bash guard for my 952's from BTI. mounted it up this afternoon with some bontrager rings i had layin around and man it looks sweet plus it gives me the 22/32 i wanted and wasnt sure i could get till last week. just a few more bits and ill be ready for the frame to show up. i just approved the color sample dt sent so it wont be long now. well acctually odus approved it with a sniff and a lick so it must be ok.

    great lookin ride ms cheese. love the black anno! one of the reasons its so hard to part with my homegrown frame.
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    true. propriatary stuff is a total drag in cases like this but ya gotta admit, it sure does work sweet once its together. all ya gotta do is find the right stuff or mod the crap out of it like cheese did.

    thats still amazes me. i wonder how long it took? i mean ya gotta channel over one arm to fit the spyder over the crank arm and then take off about 2mm overall thickness of material to mate it to the spline without touchin the small ring mounts or killin the whole thing. i looked at this option too and decided against it. whaddya do cheese? beat it with a salmon tail? let a kodiak bear naw on it? or do ya have a machine shop in yer bathroom?
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    Larry sold me an XT spider that went right on my 952's, it fit identical to the big ring. Hmmm

    Nice rig cheezer, Barney is pretty lucky to get such a nice rig with a full time mechanic too!!

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    Wink Oh-o

    I'd fit a steerer cap PDQ if I were you

    A good looking ride none the less.
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    Oooh - BLACK and with a polished rear end no less. Very nice Tscheezy. I love that "I just threw on some spare parts that were lying around the shop" line too. Your spare parts bin is probably better stocked than my LBS! Enjoy the fall riding while it lasts.
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    DHX Air... Pike... and King bits none the less. Very nice! Tell Barney I said it's good to have her back in the fold, and to get her butt down to So. Utah to break that Spot in properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat
    Oooh - BLACK and with a polished rear end no less. Very nice Tscheezy. I love that "I just threw on some spare parts that were lying around the shop" line too. Your spare parts bin is probably better stocked than my LBS! Enjoy the fall riding while it lasts.
    No doubt about that. She's a lucky girl to have that high zoot "spare" parts bin close at hand and, well, a polished rear end to boot.

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    That's a great looking bike, TS. I'm glad to hear that you and Barney are riding together!

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    So Cheese, you have a girlfriend now huh? Well there goes all your trackstanding skills. BTW, why didn't you get one of the new TNT's? You are so old school!

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    Happy to see she's back in business. I was already missing all those nice posts with photos of all those nice vacations in Utah... I even use your posts to encourage my GF to ride more, this year I convinced her we needed a bike vacation in Utah after showing her your extended 6-7 threads post a year or two ago with the camper and all...

    Can't wait to read and look at what's coming.

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    did she say anything about those beat up salsa skewers.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasick
    No doubt about that. She's a lucky girl to have that high zoot "spare" parts bin close at hand and, well, a polished rear end to boot.
    Um, I'm not so sure Barny will be comfortable with all this talk about her rear end.
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    Ride #2 took us to the top of Pillar Mountain and down some of my newer trails. Pillar is the mountain behind town of the Kodiak bike video fame. Basically every local ride for us starts with the 1,200' climb up Pillar which is a great warm-up (25 minutes of steady effort), and gives you access to a lot of cool singletrack descents I have established down the flanks.

    I snapped a few pictures on top as we made our way across the summit before dropping down into the forest below where it got too dark for pics. A little climbing with the town (village?) of Kodiak in the background:



    Cruising across the top of Pillar. In the background you can see some of the islands in Chiniak Bay which protect the town of Kodiak from the open Pacific:





    Starting the descent back to town and the boat harbor:



    Barny says a lot of the steep or more technical trail sections are noticeably easier on her Spot than on the XCE, or simply readily rideable now whereas they were at the edge of her ability before. I set her cockpit up a bit shorter (22.2" tt and 100mm stem on the Spot verses the 22.5" tt and 110 stem on the XCE) for better descending and tech work. The 6" in front and 5" in back certainly is a significant help compared her old 5"/4" setup, and the added sophistication of the current crop of shocks doesn't hurt either. Good stuff, Maynerd.
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    eye candy

    there's a lot of beauty in those photos. Very 'easy' on the eyes! Thanks!
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    Just another sunny day in Alaska...



    The new bike is nuts. She cleaned a few sections today where I dabbed. Some other times I muddled my way through a particularly difficult root-fest and stopped to watch her or call back and suggest she be careful or should consider walking the section only to find her already through it and wondering why I was holding up progress. I can say without reservation that this bike is taking her skills to a new level.
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    i dig the smiles. smiles are good for the soul and it doesnt hurt that these are pretty smiles. love yer posts pal. thanx again for sharein all the pics, storys and tech info. you help make this place a good one cheese.
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    Tscheezy, did Barny lower the travel on her Pike in the last photos? Specially on the second one it doesn't seem like there is a big bump or major decline but the fork seems to have only half of it's travel. Just wondering because my GF always lowers the travel on her Psylo because she prefers a steeper HA on the upĥill. I constantly try to convince her not to do it because she doesn't help herself for the downhill. I was happy to see you had put a 6" fork on a bike designed for a 5" (5spot) so you are slackening the 5spot's HA and at the same time she seems to have increased her skills on the rough stuff. What do you think is the major player in her improvement, the slacker HA or the more travel in the rear?

    Thanks and keep the photos coming, as other mentioned, you enlighten the forum with positive stuff instead of the usual negative we guys are renowned for!

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    My guess Banzai is the last shot makes the slope look a lot shallower than it actually is.
    The previous one is shot low looking up which gives a better feel for the true slope angle, the second shot is taken from a higher angle looking across the slope rather then up which flattens the slope.
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    Paul is right, the section is deceptively steep. It is actually a switchback in the middle of an open grassy area linking two benches we traverse. She is nearing the apex and needs to make a 90 degree left turn in a few feet so she's on the brakes and setting up. The fork is set at about full extension. I set it at 130mm via the negative air chamber but then I added about 10psi to the positive later and that probably brought it back to full extension (140mm). Despite being nice and plush I don't think she has gotten more than 5 of the 6 inches, judging by the o-ring I put on the stanchion.



    I think there can be no doubt that the added suspension's ability to roll over stuff that would have robbed her of her momentum, or caused her to deflect off a chosen line, is making a big difference in her technical riding ability. The bike just "fits her perfectly", she remarked yesterday. It seems more maneuverable and yet stable at the same time. I also have her on much wider bars than in the past which I think also helps a bit. Much more trailbike-ish than her old setup which had a strong XC flavor.
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    Please tell me what the heck is going on with that stem steerer tube interface... I doesn't look like you have a top cap installed on the steerer, no spacers above the stem - how are you loading the headset bearings? Apart from that, its obvious that Barney has impeccable taste (at least in bikes. Black is the new black.) - get that girl some Sidis!
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    The steerer situation is temporary. I don't want to cut the fork because it is going back on my Spot soon, I refuse to press a star nut in because I run Hopeys, and besides I don't have 1" worth of spacers laying around. Nothing is slipping, don't worry.

    Sidis bite. She wanted to wear her Gearne Polars because it was cold out anyway.
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    Tscheezy, this is unacceptable. With a nice smile like that she deserves better than a sticking tube in those nice white teeth of hers if she falls on one of those technical trails you bring her to!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    The steerer situation is temporary. I don't want to cut the fork because it is going back on my Spot soon, I refuse to press a star nut in because I run Hopeys, and besides I don't have 1" worth of spacers laying around. Nothing is slipping, don't worry.

    Sidis bite. She wanted to wear her Gearne Polars because it was cold out anyway.

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    xce vs spot

    hi tsch- great pictures, she looks like she's loving the new bike. I'm wondering what she like about the spot better than the xce. I'm riding a burner/xce type setup, which I belive was her previous ride, and would like to know what specifically she like more about the new ride vs the old one. I occassionaly jump on airwreck's rfx but it's too heavy for me to climb on, but I can see the benefits of rolling over stuff on his bike. Anyhow, just curious if the 5-spot is overkill for a female who stays planted on the ground 100% of the time. thanks-jewels

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    useless and self serving comment follows

    TS and Barney, awhile ago I agonized over whether to get another bike, specifically an RFX. When one of the cheezeman's posts featured Barney riding a friend's RFX, helmetless, I decided I had to have one. What in the hell does that indicate? Dunno but I wanted to share. Thanks Barney, I love my RFX
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewels
    hi tsch- great pictures, she looks like she's loving the new bike. I'm wondering what she like about the spot better than the xce. I'm riding a burner/xce type setup, which I belive was her previous ride, and would like to know what specifically she like more about the new ride vs the old one. I occassionaly jump on airwreck's rfx but it's too heavy for me to climb on, but I can see the benefits of rolling over stuff on his bike. Anyhow, just curious if the 5-spot is overkill for a female who stays planted on the ground 100% of the time. thanks-jewels
    Jewels - Barny here. I love my new bike! I stay on the ground 100% of the time if I can possibly help it and I don't feel like this is overkill at all. It's hard for me to compare the 5-spot to the xce too closely since I haven't been on it for over a year, but I definitely notice that I can ride stuff I didn't ride with the xce. I feel more stable and it's definitely easier to roll over lumpy stuff. I like that I have more clearance on the pedals. Steering feels really smooth and predictable. It's easier for me to get behind the saddle for downhills and that definitely helps my riding ability. I would say that, if anything, the 5-spot actually helps me on the climbs, too - steering is less twitchy. It doesn't seem heavy at all.
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    1200 ft climb with a steady effort @ 25 minutes? They must breed them tough in Alaska, you guys are animals!

    BTW please put a tennis ball, or even better a dolls head, over that uncut steerer, it makes me cringe.

    Thanks for the photos again, very cool. Cheers.

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    Tscheezy, your girlfriend/wife/acquantiance is hott. Does she have a 16-18 yrs old sister down in the lower 48?
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    Ironically she has a twin sister....




    ....who meets none of your requirements.

    And the 1200 feet to the top of Pillar is on a "fire" road (no fires here). Middle ring the whole way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Ironically she has a twin sister...

    I'm moving to Alaska.

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    I suggest DT sign Barny to a photo contract immediately. Where else has anyone seen such a photogenic female rider expressing joy in riding? (Cheeze you are so lucky, you better hold on to that girl). I'll bet she's just as smart as she is good looking. Great photos!
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    Winter riding season is upon us. It is dark shortly after finishing up work, so the lights have come out. Here are some shots from tonight of Barny doing her impersonation of the Japanese squid fishing fleet, with their brilliant lights, using a couple of L&M Arc HIDs.

    On top of Pillar Mountain with the lights of town in the background:





    Over the river and through the woods...



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    Hey Tscheezy, it does not look too cold or Barny is a real furnace. I would have thought you would be wearing booties and a bigger coat than this. Is it in the 30's now at night like this or still in the 40's?

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    Now that's a relief

    It's good to see some US pic's that aren't just sunny and dusty trails

    Great shots, they've made me even more determined to get the misses out to experience the joy of night riding.

    I've just acquired a L&M ARC and been using it mounted on the bars quite happily. It's way brighter than my ol'20w halogen, bodge it & scarper system. Anyhow, the boys are talking up the idea of also using a bonce mounted candle and I'd appreciate any feedback as to their effectiveness. I understood that a high mounted lamp white-n's the trail and hinders depth perception Discuss...

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    Ahh! Winter - riding in the cold and dark - fun! That will soon be my morning routine with Crazy Trail Dog and the Spot singlespeed. Nice shots - good to see the die-hard attitude in both of you.

    I'll be thinking of you guys when I do Slick Rock tomorrow, Upper and Lower Porcupine Singletrack on Saturday, and Sovereign on Sunday! Partly cloudy and in the 60s - ROAD TRIP!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farqui
    I understood that a high mounted lamp white-n's the trail and hinders depth perception Discuss...
    There is tons of info here and on other boards. Try this and this for starters...

    ...and the temps are still in the mid to upper 30's, maybe lower 40's (well above freezing) during the day. Ice forms at night though. We've had a little snow, but it only makes the landscape brighter. Good stuff.
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    While the cats away...

    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    There is tons of info here and on other boards. Try this and this for starters...)
    A-ha, thanx for that. I appear to have missed these tidbits whilst on vacation.
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    mmmmm...the only thing better than one HID is two! that's a lot of lumens.

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    Rockin' all night long....





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    Some ride pics from today. We had a gnarly cold snap for a few weeks and a good bit of snow that did not want to go away, but we got absolutely drilled by warm rain the past week and that was pretty much the end fo the snow. A bit of slush fell and froze on top of Pillar Mountain on the climb, but otherwise the riding was very good indeed.









    Down off the mountain and into the forest we go...







    Barny remarked as we cruised along, "I love my bike. Things that used to be like, oooohhh intimidating, I just ride over now." It seems to be a combination of a lot of very well mannered suspension, and the geometry/cockpit layout. Technical sections are easier, traction excellent, switchbacks easier to negotiate, descending improved, basically an all-around upgrade from the XCE.
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    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Down off the mountain and into the forest we go...

    I like the way the tire studs reflect the flash.

    Great pics and editorial content as always.
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    Very nice.
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