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    Good job! Another, Ride Free Xtreme

    It's nice to see the recent RFX porn so I thought I'd contribute mine. It's a small, 2002, my one and only do-all bike! It does all quite well, even climbs great with the ETA.

    I built it up last fall after stumbling on it from someone who had it as a backup DH race frame. It was never used and I got it for a song. It came with the Avy that I originally planned to replace w/Romic (to save weight), but after riding it I can't part with this shock. It weighs in around 38 lbs as pictured.
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    I dig it.

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    Wow!

    I too, dig it.

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    Buetiful! What a versatile bike..... especially with the Z150. Anything from epic tech XC to dirt jumping, anything in between.... Your bike is gorgeous.

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    Nice bike

    I notice you have an e13 DRS fitted, how well does it fit the Turner? I'm thinking of getting one for my 5Spot.
    Did you have any fitting problems?
    What size chainrings are you running? I'm thinking about 26/36 as a good compromise.

    Thanks for any help you can give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul5s
    Nice bike

    I notice you have an e13 DRS fitted, how well does it fit the Turner? I'm thinking of getting one for my 5Spot.
    Did you have any fitting problems?
    What size chainrings are you running? I'm thinking about 26/36 as a good compromise.

    Thanks for any help you can give.
    I'm running the same set-up (DRS on an RFX). I'm running 24/36 and it works very well. I do derail from the middle ring to the granny if I back-pedal in some cogs, but otherwise it works very well. Go for it.

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    Works fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul5s
    Nice bike

    I notice you have an e13 DRS fitted, how well does it fit the Turner? I'm thinking of getting one for my 5Spot.
    Did you have any fitting problems?
    What size chainrings are you running? I'm thinking about 26/36 as a good compromise.

    Thanks for any help you can give.
    The DRS works great. I'm running a 22/36 (vuelta). I think Vuelta is one of the few 4 bolt 36 rings with ramps out there. It's a pretty big jump from the 22 but I like wide range.

    You can use the small bashring up to the 36.

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    Very cool bike! I'm still undecided between the Z150 and 66 for my RFX's next fork. The Z150 is the safe bet, won't feel much different from my Z1, but that 66 is so sexy and just plain huge!
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    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Damn nice!!

    Looks good with the Z150. I almost went with one for this season but just couldn't justify the weight/travel vs. my Z1fr.

    I've thought about the drs as well but I don't drop the chain that often so far. I also don't have the mounting tabs on my '01 so I'm not sure how much of a pain it would be, I had to offset my bb a fair bit to not have chain issues on the cassette when backpedalling.

    What's this "66" that people keep mentioning. I think it has to do with the leaked '05 Marz photos but I haven't been able to find any pics ....is it a dc fork, sc ?.... (sorry for small hijack)


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    Quote Originally Posted by HubbaMan
    What's this "66" that people keep mentioning. I think it has to do with the leaked '05 Marz photos but I haven't been able to find any pics ....is it a dc fork, sc ?.... (sorry for small hijack)
    Think single crown 888. Somewhere near 6.5" inches of travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HubbaMan
    Looks good with the Z150. I almost went with one for this season but just couldn't justify the weight/travel vs. my Z1fr.

    I've thought about the drs as well but I don't drop the chain that often so far. I also don't have the mounting tabs on my '01 so I'm not sure how much of a pain it would be, I had to offset my bb a fair bit to not have chain issues on the cassette when backpedalling.

    What's this "66" that people keep mentioning. I think it has to do with the leaked '05 Marz photos but I haven't been able to find any pics ....is it a dc fork, sc ?.... (sorry for small hijack)


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    Here's a pic of one at the sea otter. I assume it's ok to post a pic of the fork now that they showed it at the event. The guy I talked to would not release any details about the travel or anything. The bike it's on is a demo 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shanedawg
    Here's a pic of one at the sea otter. I assume it's ok to post a pic of the fork now that they showed it at the event. The guy I talked to would not release any details about the travel or anything. The bike it's on is a demo 9.
    Woah that looks nice. Can't wait to hear about specs.

    Thanks!!

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    Did you notice eta?

    Quote Originally Posted by shanedawg
    Here's a pic of one at the sea otter. I assume it's ok to post a pic of the fork now that they showed it at the event. The guy I talked to would not release any details about the travel or anything. The bike it's on is a demo 9.
    Marzocchi rules! Probably as light as a Z150 as well. Looks like another upgrade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t66
    Marzocchi rules! Probably as light as a Z150 as well. Looks like another upgrade!
    Of the 8-10 pics I have saved, I haven't seen ETA as of yet. I've also saved the spec diagrams that are sure to have this thread deleted if posted. They list travel options at 150mm or 170mm, axle-to-crown height as 575mm and 595mm respectively, and at a weight less than the 6.5-7 pound Z150 at 6.16 pounds, all while sporting 35mm aluminum stantions, 3.0 tire clearance, a real 20mm axle, and steel steerer. Now keep in mind these spec pages got pulled because they were confidential and, according to Marzocchi, some technical specs were listed wrong.

    IMO people don't just buy single crown forks just to do X-ups. They buy them for better turning and freedom from smacking the knees. Sure that happens on flats and downhills, but both those benefits are also utilized when climbing. IMO you cannot climb steep hills with tall 6-7" forks. That is, without a *helper* like ETA or Manitou's drop-40mm switch. IMO all big single crown forks, present and future, should spec a *helper* of some sort. I think it is a mistake the release the 66 without ETA, but as the forks out there are just prototypes there is some time for things to change. Whether or not the 888's compression/rebound assemblies allow easy adaptation of ETA is another thing to guess about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Of no use to me w/o eta

    Your absolutely right. I don't see any point to a long travel single crown with some kind of extention reducer, it just makes no sense to own one unless you need to climb the beast.
    I almost with they wouldn't so I wouldn't consider upgrade. The z150 is so butter smooth and stiff and.......

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    No Eta!!!

    No eta planned for the Marz66. I talked to Zocchi today and asked them about it. Word is they've built a single crown version of 888 and want to maintain the same adjustability with compresion adj on the left leg rather than eta.

    Looks to me like it's gonna be a niche fork. For big huckin barspins? I really don't know who would want the fork. I would just as soon by a 7" 888 for my RFX if I was looking to limit it to shuttle runs.

    There is really no improvements needed for the z150 except maybe a fixed axle, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t66
    No eta planned for the Marz66. I talked to Zocchi today and asked them about it. Word is they've built a single crown version of 888 and want to maintain the same adjustability with compresion adj on the left leg rather than eta.

    Looks to me like it's gonna be a niche fork. For big huckin barspins? I really don't know who would want the fork. I would just as soon by a 7" 888 for my RFX if I was looking to limit it to shuttle runs.

    There is really no improvements needed for the z150 except maybe a fixed axle, imo.
    Cool! I just saved myself about 800 bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t66
    No eta planned for the Marz66. I talked to Zocchi today and asked them about it. Word is they've built a single crown version of 888 and want to maintain the same adjustability with compresion adj on the left leg rather than eta.

    Looks to me like it's gonna be a niche fork. For big huckin barspins? I really don't know who would want the fork. I would just as soon by a 7" 888 for my RFX if I was looking to limit it to shuttle runs.

    There is really no improvements needed for the z150 except maybe a fixed axle, imo.
    Well that does suck. VERY niche fork. You ain't gonna climb any real uphills with the world's tallest singlecrown fork, period. Guess X-ups have become a required trick when riding a DH bike? I'll still wait to see the final height measurements because I do very little climbing lately and have wanted that fork since before it ever existed (seriously, I started a thread on my dream 888 single crown once!).

    As for the Z150, I'd like to see the tests that say adding only 20mm travel to the Z.1's aluminum stantions would overload them and require the switch to steel. Next year if people ride too hard for the Z150 and break one they can tell them so and warranty it with a 66. A 6 pound Z150 with aluminum stantions would be ok. And drop the stupid flame paint, just straight black ala '04 Z.1 works for me. And unfortunately they will never drop the truly idiotic QR20 crap. It takes me less time to take the wheels off thru-axle forks than with the "quick release" system.

    In the end I'll keep reading and ranting , but the decision is a long way off. I doubt we'll see either until around Interbike time. I personally will wait until I inspect them there and hold them in my hands to put in my order.
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    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Only the Z150 SL has alu stanchions. My 2004 Z150 FR hit the scales at 6-1/4lbs with steel stanchions and all the QR20 crap.

    I'm sorta relieved to find out the 66 would indeed be overkill for my mostly XC hucking!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    As for the Z150, I'd like to see the tests that say adding only 20mm travel to the Z.1's aluminum stantions would overload them and require the switch to steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    Only the Z150 SL has alu stanchions. My 2004 Z150 FR hit the scales at 6-1/4lbs with steel stanchions and all the QR20 crap.

    I'm sorta relieved to find out the 66 would indeed be overkill for my mostly XC hucking!
    Guess I wrote that in a confusing manner. I know only the Z150sl has alloy, that's why I said Z150 (maybe they should call it Z150coil and Z150air?). Anyways, if the "sl" can do it with alloy, I don't know why the coil cannot. For '03.5 and '04 I'm sure it was because the Z150coil was the toughest single crown they had. Now that anyone who breaks a Z150 coil can be warrantied/upgraded to a 66 I think they could ditch the steel stantions altogether and lighten the Z150coil up a bit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    upgraded z150

    I will however send my 03.5 z150 to Zochi to have the aluminum steer tube retrofitted. They say it's a serious weight difference.

    I am glad however to have the 03.5 version. Mine has air caps on both sides, I heard the 04's have only one side and as nice as the machined knobs are, they're in the way if you want to adjust or check air pressure.

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