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    Good job! It ain't cheap or light, but nothing beats it for a good time.

    Kinda reminds me of my RFX... total overkill for everyday use.

    For special occasions, nothing else comes close!
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    Whew, I thought this thread was gonna be about an expensive fat hooker.
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    Oooooooooooo, 14% alcohol, I've got to find me some of that.

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    Looks yummy, I'm eagerly anticipating this years Winter Welcome ale by Samuel Smiths, should be in the next few weeks.

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    I can't wait patiently for this seasonal to come back out;


    Beer Style: Russian Imperial Stout
    Hop Variety: Magnum, German Hallertau
    Alcohol By Volume: 12.2%
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    Behold the stunning crimson hues through the inky blackness. Inhale the noble Hallertau hops, spicy and floral. Savor the flavors redolent of English toffee, rich mocha, sweet molasses, candied currants and a hint of anise. We highly recommend cellaring additional bottles, as the Czar will continue to mature and become denser and more complex with age.

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    Hey FM, I picked up two bottles of this last night, and, in my usual style, drank them both. Interesting stuff; a malt liquor that to me had quite a barleywine type flavor. Loved the 14 percent kick too! Thanks for showing me another strong brew. I usually don't inbibe anything less than 7%. [I'm a beer/ale snob].


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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    I usually don't inbibe anything less than 7%. [I'm a beer/ale snob].
    How does alcohol content relate to snobbery?
    ...and I thought is was all about taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    How does alcohol content relate to snobbery?
    ...and I thought is was all about taste.
    Good question! I actually believe that I can tell if the alcohol percentage is less than 7% just from a taste. Not that high alcohol content equals good taste; many barleywines have high A.C. but just don't taste good to me.
    I guess the real answer is I'm just an alcoholic!

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    I thought that was a head tube badge...

    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    Kinda reminds me of my RFX... total overkill for everyday use.

    For special occasions, nothing else comes close!
    my bad..so whats that stuff taste like having that much alcohol in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm
    my bad..so whats that stuff taste like having that much alcohol in it?
    It's a heavy flavor, strong initial flavor that swirls in your sinuses. You are not at all inclined to take big swigs of it, you're more inclined to allmost sip it. Last year the avery brewery here in Boulder Co. made a brew called the beast. 18% alcohol! Wow, you had to go slow. It came in 22 ounce bomber bottles; drink one bottle, and you were slurring your speech. This year they've cut the A.C down to about 15%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    It's a heavy flavor, strong initial flavor that swirls in your sinuses. You are not at all inclined to take big swigs of it, you're more inclined to allmost sip it. .
    So they had the beer in stock? I want to try some but haven't seen it before.

    The Winter welcome ale is out now and its good this year but it's only 6% so you would probably snub your nose at it Is the Avery Czar beer out yet? I want to try that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    So they had the beer in stock? I want to try some but haven't seen it before.

    The Winter welcome ale is out now and its good this year but it's only 6% so you would probably snub your nose at it Is the Avery Czar beer out yet? I want to try that too
    The austrian malt liquor is in stock at ace liquor at 30th and pearl in Boulder, and I won't be suprised at all to find it at liquormart. The re-released version of the beast is out, but I've only seen it in 12 ounce bottles, for close to 7 bucks a bottle. Hard to buy that when it use to be ten bucks for the bomber.
    The Beast
    Beer Style: Belgian Grand Cru
    Hop Variety: Magnum, Galena, Saaz, Hallertau, Tettnang, Hersbrucker
    Alcohol By Volume: 14.9%
    Color: Burgundy

    The Beast is a seducer - accomodating, complicated, powerful, dark and created to last the ages. Beyond this, it's futile to attempt to describe Him. He will unveil Himself differently to each of His followers. The mark is in His constitution. Brewed with two-row malted barley, honey malt, and imported Belgian specialty grains (aromatic, pale wheat, roasted wheat, and Special B), hops (Magnum, Galena, Saaz, Hallertau, Tettnang, and Hersbrucker), brewing sugars (raisins, dates, blackstrap molasses, alfalfa honey, turbinado, and dark Belgian candy sugar), water, Belgian yeast and another hellion of a yeast strain. IBUs: 98, OG: 1.148



    The czar isn't out yet. I hope to [insert deity of your choice] that the czar comes out again in bombers, and that the price remains about the same as last year. I LOVE the czar; I could drink that everyday of the week! It is the smoothest imperial stout I have ever tasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Good question! I actually believe that I can tell if the alcohol percentage is less than 7% just from a taste. Not that high alcohol content equals good taste; many barleywines have high A.C. but just don't taste good to me.
    I guess the real answer is I'm just an alcoholic!
    LOL.

    I say that because I don't particularily like Barley wine because despite the high IBU, the high alcohol takes the bitterness down and makes it seem too caramel tasting to me. Same with Scottish ales.

    I have had bigfoot ale many times (IBU 90 and A.C of 9.6 percent) while the Avery you mentioned has IBU of 70 and 12.2%. I'm guessing I won't like the avery at all, but I'm gonna try some when I get a chance.

    That samichlaus has IBU of 25 so I imagine it to be even worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    LOL.

    I say that because I don't particularily like Barley wine because despite the high IBU, the high alcohol takes the bitterness down and makes it seem too caramel tasting to me. Same with Scottish ales.

    I have had bigfoot ale many times (IBU 90 and A.C of 9.6 percent) while the Avery you mentioned has IBU of 70 and 12.2%. I'm guessing I won't like the avery at all, but I'm gonna try some when I get a chance.

    That samichlaus has IBU of 25 so I imagine it to be even worse!
    Ditto; there aren't many barleywines that I like, and many scottish ales I find kind of harsh. Bigfoot ale, which I believe they call a barleywine, doesn't taste barleywinish at all. You may not like avery's beast, but I highly recommend trying the czar imperial stout. Soooooper smooth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm
    my bad..so whats that stuff taste like having that much alcohol in it?
    Renegade pretty much nailed it... it's not super dark but very thick. The alchohol hits you in the pallette right away, straight through your sinus. One of these (@ 3.99) and my buzz is on. Not a beer I would suggest after a ride, not thirst quenching at all. VERY tasty as a desert beer though!

    Since this original post, I've put away 3-4 6-packs of Jubile Ale... and some Full Sail winter beer- I forget the name. And of course snow cap, but that's really nothing special compared to jubile ale etc imho.

    We had a fun ride sunday and finished off a 6-pack of moose-drool and 1/2 gallon of Rogue dead guy ale at the trailhead afterwards...MMMMM. I love Miller high-life in the summer but summers over, it's back to quality beer!
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    Man, all this talk about good beer and ale and now I am all kinds of thirsty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Man, all this talk about good beer and ale and now I am all kinds of thirsty!
    Beat ya to it! YUMMY!! Thanks FM

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    wow that looks good!

    I think this thread should be a sticky. I'm looking forward to drinking a lot of good beer this winter! starting tonight....gotta finish that 6-pack of full sail so I can have my first seasonal CHIMAY BINGE!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Beat ya to it! YUMMY!! Thanks FM

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    Renegade must be at the liquor store right now-LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Beat ya to it! YUMMY!! Thanks FM
    You beat me to it too!
    Look at that; a good beer next to an open mtbr thread with my avatar right there!

    I think it's time for a new avatar for me..........
    Mmmmmmmmm.........beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    You beat me to it too!
    Look at that; a good beer next to an open mtbr thread with my avatar right there!

    I think it's time for a new avatar for me..........
    beat ya to it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Oooooooooooo, 14% alcohol, I've got to find me some of that.

    "Hell Yes"

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    Hey FM!

    I'm flying in tomorrow for a couple of job interviews.

    You and EBX up for some swilling & chilling on Sat. night?
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    Burp .....ahhh

    http://www.mainebrew.com/about.aspx

    I'll be here this weekend -- Always been a Bud fan but Esq and IB from boutique Bikes are twisting my sensibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e[i
    o]Hey FM!

    I'm flying in tomorrow for a couple of job interviews.

    You and EBX up for some swilling & chilling on Sat. night?
    [/i]Yeah man! I could be into that- keep me posted..

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    Wassail

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    and some Full Sail winter beer- I forget the name.
    ...close to Jubele, but not quite there. Good call on the sticky.

    Hey FM, did you do some more work @ TofP? How's it coming?

    FYI, I'll be making my yearly trek up to the LaConner Brewery here soon. $1.00 per bottle, $12.00 per half case, $96.00 for 4 cases.... Oh boy, I'm getting thirsty!

    I think the nice thing about winter brews is there's no rush to drink 'em. The warmer they are, the better they taste.
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    all beer should be warm (ish) -

    I am from England but live in NJ and wish that the English beer the bars put on sale around here was served at room temperature rather than minus 38 degrees (a la coors light) Although perhaps too weak for Renegade if you can get it try these two English beers: Theakston's Old Peculier and Greene King Abbot Ale. I grew up drinking Abbot - it's the best! the recipe is over 200 yrs old and fairly strong.

    http://www.theakstons.co.uk/Theak_HOME.htm

    http://www.abbotale.co.uk/the_beer.htm

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    Hmmmm, I think I've seen the "old peculier" label in the beer section before. I admit total ignorance of british ales. I owe it to myself, and the rest of the beer/ale loving world, to do an in depth study of the subject, hopefully in a pub with a dart board and some buxom Brit' ladies to pour us some tall pints. Anyone for a road trip?


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    Ahhh... Wasail... thats good stuff.

    unfortunately while posting I had forgotten what beer I was drinking and it wasn't full sail / wasail. It was Alaskan Winter Ale "featuring spruce tips" and I did not care for it much. Probably the palest winter beer ever, really it seemed like a really pale ESB to me. 2 of them gives me heartburn, I had a hard time finishing off the 6-pack.

    I think I will need to purchase some chimay reserve to set things straight!

    TP- yeah Lonnie and I rebuilt 2 jumps and put chickenwire down on the stunt that everybody seems to spin-out / fall-off of. The jumps are sweet- basically we turned the existing washed-out 1' tall gap jumps into nice big table tops. Plus the step-down that was already there is in good shape. We also cleared all the trail debris off those lines and firmed up the berms a little. It's looking really good- we stashed soem tools out there, it does need 1-2 more work sessions before it achieves full potential.



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    ...close to Jubele, but not quite there. Good call on the sticky.

    Hey FM, did you do some more work @ TofP? How's it coming?

    FYI, I'll be making my yearly trek up to the LaConner Brewery here soon. $1.00 per bottle, $12.00 per half case, $96.00 for 4 cases.... Oh boy, I'm getting thirsty!

    I think the nice thing about winter brews is there's no rush to drink 'em. The warmer they are, the better they taste.

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    you are missing out

    In my opinion anyway, there are some fantastic British real ales. I was a member of CAMRA (campaign for real ale) whilst living in England and they have the best beer festivals. One of the best being in Cambridge. You could definitely sample plenty of beers and not go below 8% ABV if you wished! I hope you get to sample a few over the next few weeks (days!) I do like several German and Belgian beers too.. but the 1st thing I do when I get home to England is have a pint of abbot and then go to the local fish and chip shop!

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    The Ultimate Beer!

    This one has them all beat by a long shot! Sam Adams Utopias:



    http://www.internetwines.com/rws28347.html

    Can you say 25% abv!? I think it's like $100.00+/- per bottle. Anyone try this?

    FM, let me know about the next work party. However, I've got the cx race on Sunday. Hello skinny tires!
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    Wow. From the cescription, which I'll include here, this sort of brew has crossed over the fermentation line into something resembling more a port, sherry, or brandy. Probably a bit on the sweet side.

    " You are about to experience the strongest beer ever brewed. With an alcohol content of 25% by volume, we've broken our own record set by Sam Adams Utopias MMII in 2002. Beer enthusiasts have never enjoyed a beer like Sam Adams Utopias. When served at room temperature in a two-ounce serving, Sam Adams Utopias is an ideal after-dinner drink. Pour it into a wine glass or brandy snifter. Note the aroma. Take a sip and enjoy the ideal beer. People have asked what inspired me to brew such a unique beer? Drinkers have long been familiar with light beers. I wanted to show them the opposite end of the beer spectrum. A beer that is strong, rich and dark. Some would say, the ultimate beer. A beer without carbonation, one to be savored slowly. We started by using some of the world's finest ingredients, including all four types of Noble hops, which give the beer its earthy, herbal taste. The hops also add a spicy note. Carmel, Vienna, Moravian and Bavarian smoked malts add a rich amber color. A variety of yeast were used during fermentation, including the same yeast used in champagne. As a result of this unique brewing process, this flavorful, slightly fruity brew has a sweet, malty flavor that resembles the deep, rich grape taste of a vintage Port, fine Cognac or old Sherry. This limited edition ale has been aged in Scotch, Cognac and Port barrels. Your bottle of Sam Adams Utopias has been packaged in a unique, collectible copper-finished brew kettle decanter reminiscent of the brew kettles used by brewmasters for hundreds of years. We have produced only 8,000 bottles of Sam Adams Utopias in 2003 to be enjoyed by a select audience of better beer drinkers."

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    Chimay

    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    wow that looks good!

    I think this thread should be a sticky. I'm looking forward to drinking a lot of good beer this winter! starting tonight....gotta finish that 6-pack of full sail so I can have my first seasonal CHIMAY BINGE!!!!
    Chimay Bleu right?

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    Not quite the 25% of the SA but this is a good local brew. They only brew it one day per year The liter bottles have a metal flip off "cork" and are dipped in red wax to seal it. Very unique.

    The Blue make a great post ride, parking lot refresher!

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>SweetWater 420 Extra Pale Ale : SweetWater ESB :
    Sweetwater Blue : Sweetwater Exodus : Sweetwater IPA :
    Sweet Georgia Brown : SweetWater Festive Ale

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    SweetWater Festive Ale
    Well, the temperature is dropping and the days are getting shorter. You know what that means don't you? It's time for our WINTER BREW...

    A full-bodied, high-octane brew capped off with our use of cinnamon and mace. This beer will warm you all the way to your bones. Brewed only one day a year. We only bottle 7200 liters, 3800 12 oz. cases, and a handful of kegs, so get it while you can.
    • 8.6% alcohol
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    Quote Originally Posted by <sL4yEr>RuLz
    This one has them all beat by a long shot! Sam Adams Utopias:



    http://www.internetwines.com/rws28347.html

    Can you say 25% abv!? I think it's like $100.00+/- per bottle. Anyone try this?

    FM, let me know about the next work party. However, I've got the cx race on Sunday. Hello skinny tires!
    I bought a bottle of that some time ago for my brother-in-law's birthday. It was a total dissapointment the first day we opened it. It tasked kind of like a sherry. On the second day, it seemed to get aerated and tasted much better. In any case, it tasted very far from your standard beer. Very much like barley wine with the alcohol hitting you in the nose much like port or sherry does. It wasn't super sweet like a port, though. All in all, I'm glad I tried it, but would never blow a bill at the bottle ever again.

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    Another favorite of mine, which has mysteriously disappeared from the shelves of my local stores [could I have bought them all?] is Old Stock Ale, from north coast brewing. You Brit's mat appreciate this; they recommend serving it at room temperature. A malty brew, not at all sweet, 11.4 percent alcohol:

    "As a continuation of North Coast Brewing Co.'s commitment to quality, our Old Stock Ale is crafted in the tradition of our critically acclaimed Pranqster Belgian Style Golden Ale and Old Rasputin Imperial Stout. It's brewed with classic floor-malted Maris Otter Pale Malt and Fuggles Hops imported from England, so it's a beer to be served proudly.

    Like a fine wine, North Coast's Old Stock Ale is intended to be laid down. With an original gravity of over 1100 and a generous hopping rate, Old Stock Ale is well-designed to round-out and mellow with age.

    We know it's hard to believe that this exquisite beer can actually improve, but trust us. The waiting can be an excellent exercise in self-discipline and the reward is built in. It's been vintage dated so you'll know how long the clock has been running (of course the Solomon-like approach would be to buy some for now and some for later).

    We suggest a year's cellaring to let the complex flavors develop, but the longer you wait, the greater the drinking enjoyment.

    For maximum enjoyment do not serve this beer cold. To fully appreciate the complex flavors we recommend serving Old Stock Ale at room temperature. This release is limited to 1200 cases.



    96 Points, Rated "Superlative", Beverage Testing Institute, Chicago.

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    Style: Old Ale
    Color: Mahogany
    Bitterness: 36 IBU's
    ABV: 11.4%

    "Dark chestnut-amber hue.... Exotic winey aromas.... Shockingly vinous fruit.... Superlative."
    "
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    yes exactly! I'm off to buy some now....



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    Chimay Bleu right?

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