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    66 SL ATA Problems?

    Anyone having any problems with their 07 66SL ATA yet?

    Will these have the Doppio air cartridge issues that the '06s had?

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    I haven't read of any problems yet nor have I had any in the 7 days that I've now had mine. There is a thread going in the suspension forum that has folk's set-up information and observations, I recommend you check it out: '07 66SL1 ATA set up information
    I don't think it's even called the doppio cartridge anymore; that is the one aspect of the fork that is different than the '06. The positive and negative air charges for the left leg are both contained within the cartridge. Rather than repeat it all here, read the other thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    I haven't read of any problems yet nor have I had any in the 7 days that I've now had mine. There is a thread going in the suspension forum that has folk's set-up information and observations, I recommend you check it out: '07 66SL1 ATA set up information
    I don't think it's even called the doppio cartridge anymore; that is the one aspect of the fork that is different than the '06. The positive and negative air charges for the left leg are both contained within the cartridge. Rather than repeat it all here, read the other thread.
    Thanks Rene, I read that post yesterday. I was getting a bit lost near the end, but it seems like the initial stiction is better on this fork.

    Not being an engineer, is the left side cartridge likely to be more reliable with the new design?
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    Reliable? Time will tell. The schematic drawing that Warp provided makes the cartridge appear somewhat complicated. We will see.Once again, I am a guinea pig. There weren't too many failures with the '06, unless you put a lot of weight on one person's crusade to discredit the fork. However, I firmly believe that the stiction I experienced with my '06 was entirely due to the doppio cartridge, as I talked about in that thread.
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    No problems so far with mine. Another 10 rides or so, and she'll be ready for an oil change.

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    Ben, have you made any adjustments to your set-up lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er
    Anyone having any problems with their 07 66SL ATA yet?
    Yes....the stanchions are tiny and it's suspended by air.

    Give it another month or so, 3 footers take a little longer to expose suspension damping flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er
    Anyone having any problems with their 07 66SL ATA yet?

    Will these have the Doppio air cartridge issues that the '06s had?

    Thanks
    some relevant snippets from the manual anyway if you have not read it:

    "ATA offers the user all the benefi ts of our proven Doppio
    Air system, with external travel adjustment. 8 turns
    increase the travel of 40mm. Progressive air automatically
    compensates to travel changes. Low turning force on the
    adjuster means that travel can be changed quickly and
    easily. With BOTTOM OUT AIR CHAMBER you can set
    up progressivity at the end of travel."

    "The positive air chamber is pressurised by means of the ATA
    valve. The pressure of the negative chamber is automatically
    adapted on the basis pf the positive chamber pressure."

    also in regards to the ATA (bottom of fork leg)

    "By introducing pressurised air through the valve, it is
    possible to modify the damping of the forces generated
    during compression at the end of travel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms
    Give it another month or so, 3 footers take a little longer to expose suspension damping flaws.
    It took significantly less time than that to expose the Lyric's flaws.
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    Nope. It's all good. I think I am still set at 60psi in the left leg, with 0 psi in the Par, and 30 psi in the right leg. I still haven't felt the bottom of the fork yet. There is about a half inch of unused travel. I'll have to lower the oil levels a tad and see what that does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    It took significantly less time than that to expose the Lyric's flaws.
    besides, if parts didn't brake, what the hell would the Homers have to whine about

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    besides, if parts didn't brake, what the hell would the Homers have to whine about
    Well, you for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Well, you for one.
    and thats why the hell you keep me around...sort of like a dog that you kick to get frustrations out

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    Nope. It's all good. I think I am still set at 60psi in the left leg, with 0 psi in the Par, and 30 psi in the right leg. I still haven't felt the bottom of the fork yet. There is about a half inch of unused travel. I'll have to lower the oil levels a tad and see what that does.
    Yea, I think I have too much oil as well; I'm not seeing the bottom of the fork yet. Can you imagine that; a marzocchi fork arriving from the factory with too much oil?
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