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    5 Spot to be discontinued?

    Any fact based in the 5 Spot being discontinued (as in it's 26" wheel guise)?
    Is the Burner the replacement?

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    I recall DT saying that the Burner was the 5Spot replacement in one of his interviews.

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    Huh, but the current 5spot is the replacement for the RFX?
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    5 Spot to be discontinued?

    Quote Originally Posted by JackFromNC View Post
    Huh, but the current 5spot is the replacement for the RFX?
    Maybe DT's plan was to end the Spot by replacing it with the Burner. This then frees up some space in their product line for a 160mm frame?
    Would such a frame be 27.5?
    Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFromNC View Post
    Huh, but the current 5spot is the replacement for the RFX?
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    (a comment on the blunt side of things, be warned) why oh why would DT commit himself to 27.5 or 29 only in that manner? It makes zero sense, while keeping the bases covered in all camps does. Killing a 5.incher swiss army knife and replacing it with a 160mm bike a tad bit more capable bike with far less mass appeal would be downright stupid imo. DT is known for many things, stupidity not being one of em.

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    DT was a smart guy,
    He discontinued the RFX to give way to 5spot
    He discontinued the Flux to give way to the Czar
    He will discontinue the 5spot to give way to the Burner,
    He will eventually reborn the RFX to start the cycle,
    Purely speculation here :-)
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    5inch trail bikes are the bread and butter of most mtb manufacturers. It's where the numbers are seen - not in the dh department nor in hardtail scheme of things for most manufacturers, but as do it all bikes for the weekend warriors.

    Killing the spot, a 26er, and instead going all in in the 27.5/29 camp only makes sense if the spot sees a steady decline in sales - as did the Flux. If the Flux had had strong figures it would've made sense to keep both it and the Czar to be able to cater to different segments of the market - but alas it didn't, so it was left behind for now.

    The RFX was not dropped to facilitate for the 5 Spot. The Spot was always there - it just got updated with DW link while the RFX would've ended up so expensive that DT probably wisely decided to pull the plug - instead of getting another Highline debacle on his hands. Instead the Spot was made slighly more capable of more progressive riding with revised geo and kinematics and the rest is history.

    I might be wrong and i'm biased as well being a 12 Spot owner - but as mentioned above, killing the Spot to force people over to the Burner isn't the way to go imo. In spite of 27.5 and 29 being the items that are hyped at present - and healthily at that - 26ers still got a healthy following. 27.5 isn't the end all be all for now. Killing 206ers as an option does not make sense, at al,l imho. The Burner and 5 Spot compliment each other, but they are not direct competitors. If you want to upgrade your old Spot, but want to keep most of the parts - let's face it, Turners aren't cheap - buying a Burner essentially is buying a brand new bike. It's not like Turner Bikes only can have 4 bikes on their pallate.

    anyway - time will tell. In a few years time, 26ers might be the niche market 27.5 bikes are today, but as it is - Turners already are, niche that is.

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    I don't believe the 5 spot will die. If you listen to a number Dave's interviews one thing that he tries to do is use frame components across lines as much as possible as well as reduce tooling. This is something that I believe he does extensively between the Spot and Burner.

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    I think it will die if the numbers push him that way. He will not continue to produce a frame that doesn't sell, simple. If people want a 26" bike, then keep buying the frames and it will live on.

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    26" is dead.

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    Still waitin 4 d RFX

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    Quote Originally Posted by HubbaMan View Post
    I think it will die if the numbers push him that way. He will not continue to produce a frame that doesn't sell, simple. If people want a 26" bike, then keep buying the frames and it will live on.
    What he said. 100% right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    26" is dead.
    What LnCNuvue said.

    Sales figures don’t lie. And in your neck of the woods 26ers are following the way of the dodo. Bluesky have started selling the Spot at 33% discounted.

    The majority of sales in the UK are still current 26ers from what I can see on the trails, but with all of the 650b and long travel 29er coming out, I think I’m gonna have to try the cool-aid next time. (Talking about 650b that is. Don’t think I’d like the cornering on a 29er).

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanopatoni View Post
    What LnCNuvue said.

    Sales figures don’t lie. And in your neck of the woods 26ers are following the way of the dodo. Bluesky have started selling the Spot at 33%

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    Uhh Blue sky did that same thing 2 years ago before the Spot with the thru axle rear end came out. That means little. I don't see sales numbers which would give the answer. I think there is another carbon bike in the mix. Spot, DHR, Burner or RFX? My gut tells me DHR but Spot would make sense too.

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    I don't see the Spot being the next carbon bike based on market trends. Have you tried to unload a used Carbon Blur or Blur TRC lately? Almost impossible. I think a Burner in Carbon is really the smartest move. At this point, it makes sense to do a 650b RFX in carbon over a 26 inch iteration.
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    Here in Europe these things change slowly. Last summer on a holiday in the French speaking part of Switzerland a friend needed a 29" tire and went to a well assorted store to buy it. He got it. The owner took one of his new bikes with the remark that he would order a new tire for that bike.

    It will still take a while before those new wheel sizes are really there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Uhh Blue sky did that same thing 2 years ago before the Spot with the thru axle rear end came out. That means little. I don't see sales numbers which would give the answer. I think there is another carbon bike in the mix. Spot, DHR, Burner or RFX? My gut tells me DHR but Spot would make sense too.

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    I'm not quite ready to blow taps for the 5 Spot. It is something of a brand within the brand. Even if fads, er, trends, do away with the twennie sixer, 5 Spot should christen one of the horses in the Turner stable. JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    The buying public is fickle. They will happily pay more for a carbon bike made overseas, that cost less to make than an aluminum bike made in the USA. Give the people what they want and live to fight another day...
    Can't tell if you agree on my carbon spot prediction or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon View Post
    I don't see the Spot being the next carbon bike based on market trends. Have you tried to unload a used Carbon Blur or Blur TRC lately? Almost impossible. I think a Burner in Carbon is really the smartest move. At this point, it makes sense to do a 650b RFX in carbon over a 26 inch iteration.
    Seems reasonable but an overlap for sure. Two 650b bikes in a small brand? Seems tough to swallow. Carbon RFX or Carbon DHR are more differentiated.

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    Why invest in 26 when 90% of the market is buying 27.5 and 29? I have a burner and couldn't be happier. If you haven't ridden one, it's very very similar to a Spot... but faster through the chunk.

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    According to the UK Importer, the 5 spot is officially discontinued...

    Have Turner dropped the 5-spot? « Singletrack Forum

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    No it's not "official", if there are orders DT will make more and the distributor says they are considering an order, they still have stock, the tooling is still available, but it does sound like any further updates to the 5spot will not use 26" wheels, so technically the Burner is the new 5 Spot or RFX in my case

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    I'd consider a carbon burner, wouldn't buy a carbon 5 spot... moving on to bigger and better wheels and the next bike will be plastic.

    BTW - I can't give away this wheel set in the classifieds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I'd consider a carbon burner, wouldn't buy a carbon 5 spot... moving on to bigger and better wheels and the next bike will be plastic.

    BTW - I can't give away this wheel set in the classifieds.
    Sounds like my destination.

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    Smile Will there be a 26in carbon 5Spot. “Never” says DT (apparently)

    Quote from DT from Singletrack Magazine | Blog | A time of change

    Take Turner for example. He just showed his new 29in carbon bike, the Czar. He also had his staple bikes like the 5Spot (26in) and the Sultan (29in) and the Burner (27.5in). Will there be a 26in carbon 5Spot. “Never” apparently. Even if he’d been considering it, to come out with a new 26in model at a time when everyone is promoting 27.5in (and clearing out their 26in models) would be suicide.

    Fact - Your next bike will not be a 26er

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    5 Spot to be discontinued?

    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I'd consider a carbon burner, wouldn't buy a carbon 5 spot... moving on to bigger and better wheels and the next bike will be plastic.

    BTW - I can't give away this wheel set in the classifieds.
    If you want to give them away for $200, I will take them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I'd consider a carbon burner, wouldn't buy a carbon 5 spot... moving on to bigger and better wheels and the next bike will be plastic.

    BTW - I can't give away this wheel set in the classifieds.
    I'll give you a $100 and two 27.5 Hans Dampf tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    I'll give you a $100 and two 27.5 Hans Dampf tires
    I have two 26" Hans Dampf tires nearly new I'm giving away for free. Worst tire I've every used. Back on the Butcher and DHF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMC View Post
    If you want to give them away for $200, I will take them.
    $400 is fair. Red Barn builds a killer wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I'd consider a carbon burner, wouldn't buy a carbon 5 spot... moving on to bigger and better wheels and the next bike will be plastic.
    So, what's on your short list at this point? I imagine you want to stay with DW link bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    So, what's on your short list at this point? I imagine you want to stay with DW link bike?
    Ripley is at the top of the list right now but I've heard SC is releasing a 650b Blur TRc type bike which would be exactly what I'm looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Ripley is at the top of the list right now but I've heard SC is releasing a 650b Blur TRc type bike which would be exactly what I'm looking for.
    I haven't had much interest in 29 inch wheels, but I agree the Ripley looks like a special bike.

    Are you looking for a shorter travel bike for your one bike or are you planning to keep the Spot as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I'd consider a carbon burner, wouldn't buy a carbon 5 spot... moving on to bigger and better wheels and the next bike will be plastic.

    BTW - I can't give away this wheel set in the classifieds.
    I would buy those for $200, but not $400. Just how it is right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    I haven't had much interest in 29 inch wheels, but I agree the Ripley looks like a special bike.

    Are you looking for a shorter travel bike for your one bike or are you planning to keep the Spot as well?
    1 bike guy. I'd feel good about doing everything I do on the Spot on a Ripley or 27.5 TRc ish bike. 650b suits my style a little better I think but I'd roll the dice on a Ripley without worry.

    Still love the Spot - it's been a solid battle wagon for many years.

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    $201 for the "dead" Wheels.

    Agree that the Riply looks very interesting. It does look like it has the specs of a Sultan though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    $400 is fair. Red Barn builds a killer wheel
    True, but I would still have to sell the rims and spokes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Ripley is at the top of the list right now but I've heard SC is releasing a 650b Blur TRc type bike which would be exactly what I'm looking for.
    Make sure you give the Ripley a thourogh demo. I was very happy to get back on my spot after a good 3 hour ride with the Ripley(140mm fork too). The rear end just isn't as plush and though really maneuverable for a 29er it's still more fun to throw the spot around, especially in the tighter stuff. IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose1 View Post
    Make sure you give the Ripley a thourogh demo. I was very happy to get back on my spot after a good 3 hour ride with the Ripley(140mm fork too). The rear end just isn't as plush and though really maneuverable for a 29er it's still more fun to throw the spot around, especially in the tighter stuff. IMHO.
    Try a Burner?

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    I rode a Carbon Bronson but I like my Nomad more. 26"= more fun! I sure hope people start "giving away" their 26" carbon Enve wheels soon! When you ride 26ers just think BMX...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash-VR View Post
    I rode a Carbon Bronson but I like my Nomad more. 26"= more fun! I sure hope people start "giving away" their 26" carbon Enve wheels soon! When you ride 26ers just think BMX...
    You guys are hardcore What's BMX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose1 View Post
    Make sure you give the Ripley a thourogh demo. I was very happy to get back on my spot after a good 3 hour ride with the Ripley(140mm fork too). The rear end just isn't as plush and though really maneuverable for a 29er it's still more fun to throw the spot around, especially in the tighter stuff. IMHO.
    Yeah, moose1 rear plushness is a little concern but I think the geo and shock tune can make up for some of that. I got to putt around a RIP9 RDO on Saturday. That's one fine machine. It's down to three bikes for me: SC Solo, Rip9 RDO, Ripley. I think the RIP might be the best all arounder. I imagine the Solo would be stupid fast and a ton of fun but there might be some sacrifice in the bigger rocks, which I enjoy. Decisions, decisions.

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    What's the attachment to plastic? Lower weight?

    I am still on an Aluminum road bike so haven't drunk the koolaid yet. Now for a race bike (czar), I am interested.

    Probably all talk as I have many years left in my DW spots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    What's the attachment to plastic? Lower weight?
    Weight, ride quality, stiffness, and so on and so forth.

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    Rode a Burner in parking lot. It was a size too big. This bike in Carbon please!!!!

    Forget what I said about a carbon 5 spot...

    Carbon Burner. Carbon 650b DHR too.

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    Turner are currently not showing ANY stock for Raw 5Spots of any size. Just saying (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanopatoni View Post
    Turner are currently not showing ANY stock for Raw 5Spots of any size. Just saying (?)
    Yeah, seems like it's been a couple months now.

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    Currently there are NO 5.Spots for sale anywhere in the UK.

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