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    To XR3 or not.

    So I'm picking up the new 12 EX8 soon and contemplating wether to keep the Bonty XR3's that came on the bike and run them tubeless or swap them out for something different. Possibly XR4's.. Maybe Maxxis. Any experiences and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

    Oh and I ride NE typical mix of hardpack single to techy rocky decents to forrest trails. I need something all around.

    Thanks guys!

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    I hated mine I had on. Rode them once and switched back to my specialized captains. Going to ride these until they wear out then going to Kenda Nevegals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkoMTB View Post
    I hated mine I had on. Rode them once and switched back to my specialized captains. Going to ride these until they wear out then going to Kenda Nevegals.
    Yeah.. I'm worried about that. Thinking I might try the maxxis ignitors as a few guys at my LBS swear by them. Either that or give the XR4's a try. Anyone feel one is better than the other?

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    I mean I'd run the xr3's first and give them a shot unless your lbs is willing to swap out when you buy, I'f they would I'd spring for xr4's. But what do I know I run xr2's and love them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkoMTB View Post
    I hated mine I had on. Rode them once and switched back to my specialized captains. Going to ride these until they wear out then going to Kenda Nevegals.
    What did you hate about your XR3's?

    I'm considering trying an XR3 up front. I currently have XR2's which I love as a rear tire but I need something a little more aggressive for the front. I think an XR4 might be to much for the tree rooted hard pack clay soil trails I ride. Plus I'm concerned about rolling resistance. I hoping the XR3/XR2 combination will be perfect for me.

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    I liked 'em on my EX.. Seemed to work good at a lower psi on the wet rooty rocky stuff, plus they are light and roll well.... Might be an ok weight weenie tire @ 535g for a 2.3...
    The XR3 in a 2.2 is skinny compared to a 2.2 XR4... Would I buy a pair? Probably not, but I liked them.... Just my .02
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    XR3's suck... get the new XR4's and you'll never look back..
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    I run a 2.35 at 28psi on the front and a 2.20 at 30psi in the rear on my EX and have never felt more confident in the corners....

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    Doesn't the 12 ex8 come with XR4's? Mine did, and I have no complaints with them so far. Equal to my maxxis high rollers that are on my old bike. Haven't converted them to tubless yet but plan to do so soon...

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    +1 on the new xr4's. My new favorite tire. I had the old version, wore them out and tried other brands. I have the 2.2 on a 2011 remedy.

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    My 12 ex8 came with the xr3's.

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    Depends on your conditions. I didn't like them at first, let the pressure down to 28 to 30 and now they work great. Not spectacular on wet roots/rocks, but pretty good all around and roll really well. Just the same, after the review in the new mba, I ordered a set of xr4 team issues.
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    my remedy came with xr3s... terrible. Why would you know that xr3s are so bad and want to buy xr4s? Get a nevegal or an sworks eskar... knobby nic? Bontrager tires are like specialized suspension. It sucks. iv used bontrager tires and spesh suspension... given up on both.... fox susp, and ANY tire but bontrager.
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    Have you tried xr4's? A lot of people are saying they are great. Including those that rode xr3's...
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    If you bought a chevy truck and it blew up, would you go buy a different chevy model or would you get something that you know is decent like a Toyota. Like George bush the articulate poet of public speaking tried to say" fool me once shame on you, fool me twice sham on me".....
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    Believe me, I see your point. However, things can change and I hope you are wrong. I will let you guys know soon enough. I have use nevegals, small blocks, wolverines and xr3s, so I can give a good gauge on where the xr4s sit. I am not a bontrager fan, but have heard many good reviews on this tire from other non-bontrager fans.

    And fwiw, I would never buy a Chevy or Toyota!
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    No Toyota!? Awe come on!.... It's ok I have a jeep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stunnerable View Post
    So I'm picking up the new 12 EX8 soon and contemplating wether to keep the Bonty XR3's that came on the bike and run them tubeless or swap them out for something different. Possibly XR4's.. Maybe Maxxis. Any experiences and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

    Oh and I ride NE typical mix of hardpack single to techy rocky decents to forrest trails. I need something all around.

    Thanks guys!
    Hey i got the 2012 Trek EX 8 and XR3 on the bike suck i'm looking to get rid of them i also ride the same type of trail and all i did was slip and slide (wet leaves, hardpack, and also rocky) couldn't get a grip going up hill so i don't know how better the XR4's but i'm willing to trying anything i was also told to look into kenda, and also schwalbe

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    Thanks everyone. I'm going to run the 3's til spring and probably swap them out for... Something. I've spent too much as it is.

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    i hear ya i'm going to do the same thing

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    Can one of you guys with 2.20 xr3's tell me what the Global Measuring System (GMS) number is on the sidewall? It's located just after the nominal tire size. It will look something like 26 x 2.20 (xx/xx).
    If anyone has 2.30 I'm curious what that number is too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro S View Post
    Can one of you guys with 2.20 xr3's tell me what the Global Measuring System (GMS) number is on the sidewall? It's located just after the nominal tire size. It will look something like 26 x 2.20 (xx/xx).
    If anyone has 2.30 I'm curious what that number is too.
    26 x 2.20 56/50

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    Thanks.

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    Bought a 2012 ex7 and it came with xr3's instead of 4's. Think I want to get rid of them and try something else as well.

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    Just got some xr4's, well impressed, very similar ride to the nobby nics.
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    XR4s are outstanding tires. I was able to get my lbs to swap the xr3 for xr4s when I bought my 2012 Fuel EX 8. I run them tubeless. They are exceptionally grippy and practically indestructible!

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    How well does the 4's roll? My EX8 came with Jones XR's. They are OK but want to washout when I lean in a non banked turn. I may be looking for a XC/trail tire and have also looked at the ignitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    How well does the 4's roll? My EX8 came with Jones XR's. They are OK but want to washout when I lean in a non banked turn. I may be looking for a XC/trail tire and have also looked at the ignitors.
    Well for a large volume/knobby tire, the XR4s roll reasonably well. The ignitors will certainly roll faster but now you are trading some grip for speed. I push my xr4s very hard in corners and they always find something to grip on to. I think they are amazing tires but as I have said in other threads, just wish they came in a smaller size. I think a 2.1 would be the perfect size for technical xc riding.

    btw, here is a link to another thread where I posted some pics of the XR4 on my bike. this will give you a better feel for the size of the tires -
    Bontrager XR3 Rear & Maxxis Ardent Front Opinions

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    Due to the lack of love for the XR3 I've decided to go back to my original plan on putting a 2.2 XR4 up front with my existing 2.1 XR2 in back. I too am concerned with the rolling resistance of the XR4, but since I'll be using it as a front tire only, I shouldn't notice the effects of rolling resistance too much. They still have some of the original versions for sale but I'll most likely go with the new redesigned version. I think I read they're lighter The pictures in kev321's post show the older tread.

    Anyone have any experience on the new vs the old tread?

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    Try the XR4, I read that Bontrager have the satisfaction guarantee on their tires. If not satisfied, return it.

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    Hi everyone!
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    2012 XR4 (26") and 29-4 (29") tires were redesigned, so wer'e talking of a completely different tires from the 2011 XR4 and 29-4.

    I bought a 2012 Trek Rumblefish a month ago, and the bike came with the new 29-4 tires (the 29" identical version of the XR4, except the 29-4 are 2.3" wide while the XR4 are 2.2").

    These tires are great! I rode a 36 mile in the desert and all I can say is WOW.
    After so much time Bontrager finally has a winner.

    The XR4 were tested by MBA and won 5/5. Here's what MBA testers think about them:
    Product Test: Bontrager XR4 Team Issue TLR Tires | News | mountain-bike-action

    Safe rides, Mo.
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