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    So what's the difference.....

    What makes the Shimano Deore LX better then the Deore? or the alivio better than the acera? Just a question that's been on my mind lately.

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    It all comes down to fit, finish, weight, action of the components, throw required and so forth.

    I'll take an analogy a little far, but say the Shimano D50 is a Yugo...it's still a car and will get you from A to B, but the quality and features are not that great.

    As you move up the lines, you're getting into basic domestics (say a Ford Fusion), then into higher end domestics (Mercury Zephyr or Cadillac CTS), sportier imports (BMW 3 and 5 series) until you start hitting more of the sports cars ('Vettes, Vipers, Porches). Eventually you end up in the Ferraris, Lambroghinis, McLarens and so forth (say XTR stuff). They're still all cars (or components as the case may be), but there can be a substantial difference in the performance as you go between series.
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    i like your answer better then the one i got in the general discussion forum.

    thx

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    So, if you (anyone reading this) had the choice between:
    Bike A

    Fork: Manitou Axel Elite w/TPC Lock-Out | 100mm travel | Magnesium lowers
    Crank: Shimano M410 42/32/22
    Front derailleur: Shimano M-410 Alivio
    Rear derailleur: Shimano M-511 Deore
    Shifters: Shimano M-511 Deore
    Cassette: SRAM PG950 | 11-34 | 9spd


    ........and........

    Bike B

    Front Suspension: RockShox Judy J1 w/preload, 80mm
    Shifters: Shimano Alivio
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Acera
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore LX
    Crank: Shimano MC09 42/32/22
    Cassette: SRAM PG830 11-32, 8 speed


    Which would any of you pick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylejohn4543
    So, if you (anyone reading this) had the choice between:
    Bike A

    Fork: Manitou Axel Elite w/TPC Lock-Out | 100mm travel | Magnesium lowers
    Crank: Shimano M410 42/32/22
    Front derailleur: Shimano M-410 Alivio
    Rear derailleur: Shimano M-511 Deore
    Shifters: Shimano M-511 Deore
    Cassette: SRAM PG950 | 11-34 | 9spd


    ........and........

    Bike B

    Front Suspension: RockShox Judy J1 w/preload, 80mm
    Shifters: Shimano Alivio
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Acera
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore LX
    Crank: Shimano MC09 42/32/22
    Cassette: SRAM PG830 11-32, 8 speed


    Which would any of you pick?
    Now assuming fit and frame are relatively the same. I personally would chose option A. 100mm, vs 80mm.....other components (especually LX) are relativly cheap. But then mind you, I'm a big 8 speed lover (when I'm not SSing ). Worry more about the bigger things, such as forks, wheels, and most importanly your frame. The rest just changes your gear. They are easily replaced if it matters THAT much to you.
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    sweet. that's the answer i was hoping for.

    BTW, Bike A is a Gary Fisher Piranha and Bike B is a Trek 4900

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylejohn4543
    sweet. that's the answer i was hoping for.

    BTW, Bike A is a Gary Fisher Piranha and Bike B is a Trek 4900

    Well in that case, you need to make sure you like the fit of a GF, with that whole genesis geometry stuff. Personally I don't like the fit, but as my name says, it wouldn't matter if I did
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    personally... id choose neither... cause i aint into XC.... but i'd choose option B... my friend has a Trek 4900 with pretty much those exact components... and although it aint the kinda bike that i like... it works friggin well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Mike
    It all comes down to fit, finish, weight, action of the components, throw required and so forth.

    I'll take an analogy a little far, but say the Shimano D50 is a Yugo...it's still a car and will get you from A to B, but the quality and features are not that great.

    As you move up the lines, you're getting into basic domestics (say a Ford Fusion), then into higher end domestics (Mercury Zephyr or Cadillac CTS), sportier imports (BMW 3 and 5 series) until you start hitting more of the sports cars ('Vettes, Vipers, Porches). Eventually you end up in the Ferraris, Lambroghinis, McLarens and so forth (say XTR stuff). They're still all cars (or components as the case may be), but there can be a substantial difference in the performance as you go between series.
    I actually agree with the analogy except for maybe the last line--a LX/XT level Z06 Vette performs almost just as well as the Ferrari 430 / 575 at less than half the cost, but is less polished and shiney.

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    I would lean more to option A as well, but make sure Genesis geometry works for you. The forks are about similar level and components are pretty similar. However, I like A better as it has 34t in the rear and with all the hills that I have 32t just doesn't cut it for me...with my bulk, I need all the help that I can get

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    Just for all you to know, I recently got my bike, and It's the Fisher. Great bike, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylejohn4543
    Just for all you to know, I recently got my bike, and It's the Fisher. Great bike, btw.
    Congrats! Please post pics when you can.

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    I'm going up north (I'm in MI) this weekend and am taking it to the trails. I'll post pics after if I think of it.

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    Sounds good. Have a fun & safe trip/ride.

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