• 10-31-2012
    stygz1
    Lets see your Stache official thread
    Lets get a thread going like the Fuel EX has. The stache should be getting in the hands of the riders here anytime. Lets see them....list the upgrades, tips, and ride reports.
  • 10-31-2012
    stygz1
    Funny thing I was at my LBS the other day and asked if they would be getting any in. I got a quick NO. I can believe the LBS seems to only believe in XC bikes costing less than $1k. I will have to wait for the demo at Atlanta in Feb.
  • 10-31-2012
    verdugomountainlocal
    Here's my Stache 8. I love it! For the price it's spec'd great. The rear wheel is prettty heavy so I will upgrade down the line. Mine weighs 26.5 pounds with pedals in a 19.5 inch. really stiff rear end and stays. The routing for the internal reverb dropper is slick though I haven't installed it yet. I would have loved a fit damped fork but for the price the evolution is ok. Handling is typical Trek 29er which is the best out there! The G2 geometry is superior to other 29ers I have ridden or currently own. Seems like it'll last forever. this one's a keeper.
    Dealers that didn't pre order these won't get them any time soon. my shop has 15, 17 and 19 in stock in the Stache 8 and Stache 7.

    One more.
  • 10-31-2012
    verdugomountainlocal
    Here's a few more close up's of some frame detail. Nice work on this one. Kudos Trek.


  • 11-01-2012
    stygz1
    Looks great! Thanks for the close up pics and how much it weighs. What is the little "on" switch on the rear derailer? I want to demo this bike in the worst way,...maybe replace my EX8 for stache 8.
  • 11-02-2012
    DukeNeverwinter
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    A little different than what a stock spec would be.

    Revelation 140mm@120mm.
    Rhythm comp wheels (for sale)
    E13 TRS+ Dual chainguide.
  • 11-03-2012
    joshman108
    Ride report:

    I don't have pics because I only demo'd the bike, but wow.

    I had to go out of my way to write a review.

    About me: my first really good mountain bike was a gary fisher tassajara hardtail with 140mm fork and full xtr. So I am smitten with a more burly type of hardtail. Also, I really like trek in general. The bikes literally feel like they are alive. They're so responsive. Anywho, I have owned and tested a fair amount of 29rs. Other than a rigid ss sir9 (which is a very different type of ride), I didn't like any of them a whole lot. I saw the potential, but they always had something I didn't like. None were quite there yet. Too heavy, to slow in the corners, doesn't like catching air, doesn't like being flicked etc....

    I'm not aware of, are atleast haven't tested 29 hardtail that wasn't a small travel/carbon race machine.
    So when I saw the stache in the works I was really excited. If anyone could nail a trail 29 hardtail, I was sure trek could.

    And wow, they did not disappoint.

    The bike: It was amazing. It was set up with xt brakes and slx shifters. My favorite. It had the 130mm fox fork (forget which one) so you can tackle more gnar without sacrificing a whole lot. But you all know that. The details were amazing. The paint was just a clear coat (with green highlights) so you could see where they had buffed the metal underneath. It was a work of art. Even down to the green raceface cranks. Beautiful.

    The ride: Amazing, of course. The first thing I noticed was the cornering ability. It only had 2.2 tires (didn't catch what they were) but it held a sharp corner with abandon. It was just begging to be turned and twisted and played with. As soon as you tilted it, it was like a dog let off the leash. The bike literally felt happy (or maybe that was just me). It felt more confident in a sharp turn than any 2.4 gnarly tire that I've ever tried. Maybe it was the geometry. It was alive in the corners. I've never felt anything like it. I never knew I had been missing so much in the corners.

    One thing I've never liked about 29rs is how they like to stay on the ground. I can't bunny hop them. Not the stache. I got more air on it that even the lightest 26 wheeled bike. Amazing.

    Maybe it was because my legs were dead, but it felt kind of slow in a straight line. Not sure if that was me, the gear ratio i was in, or the bike. It was certainly light enough though so that shouldn't have been the reason.

    I was too tired to climb, so I wasn't able to take it down or up a hill, but I talked to my buddy and he said it felt "like butter" downhill, and hammered uphill. I believe it.

    In the end, trek made a 29r that doesn't have the traditional 29 problems: sluggish, sits on the ground, weird in the corners. It not only got rid of the problems, but it blew past what you would expect. It was amazing to ride. Light, cornered like crazy, was really fun to flick around, and put a smile on my face :D Sure, you could tell it was a 29r, but it didn't have any problems at all. I would say it's the most fun 29r ever made, or atleast that I've tried.

    Dead on. I'll ride trek till the day I die. And of course, you should too.
    Buy this bike.
  • 11-03-2012
    Superfuel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    What is the little "on" switch on the rear derailer?

    It increases the tension on the chain vs. a standard mech (supposedly). According to the blurb I saw on a retailer site, it's designed to stay in the "on" position in most cases. If you would like to reduce the tension on the chain (such as when you're removing a wheel), flick it "off".
  • 11-07-2012
    spk1264
    they look more agressive than the average trek XC bike...is it just me?
  • 11-07-2012
    DukeNeverwinter
    They are, and that's the point. Slacker headtube, shorter top tube, not by much though. Also, beefed up frame with iscg 05 mounts and 12mm rear axle and 120mm of front travel

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  • 11-08-2012
    RetroS
    Got my Stache a week earlier than expected. Pretty psched. First bike I have ridden in a while that I instantly felt at home on.
  • 11-09-2012
    rfxc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RetroS View Post
    Got my Stache a week earlier than expected.

    How long ago did you stop shaving?
  • 11-09-2012
    RetroS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    How long ago did you stop shaving?

    :) Ordered fist week of October. Due on the 8th of November got on the 5th.

    I shave as the Stache is gray. ;)
  • 11-10-2012
    Beckman4
    2 Attachment(s)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Lets get a thread going like the Fuel EX has. The stache should be getting in the hands of the riders here anytime. Lets see them....list the upgrades, tips, and ride reports.

    First shake down ride yesterday on some pretty easy trails. I rode this bike twice at Trek World in August and couldn't get enough of it. It was a very tough wait. Our trails in FL are super tight and twisty with almost no straight lines. The Stache handles very quickly in the tight stuff and just eats up bumps.
  • 11-18-2012
    stygz1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by verdugomountainlocal View Post
    Here's my Stache 8. I love it! For the price it's spec'd great. The rear wheel is prettty heavy so I will upgrade down the line. Mine weighs 26.5 pounds with pedals in a 19.5 inch. really stiff rear end and stays. The routing for the internal reverb dropper is slick though I haven't installed it yet. I would have loved a fit damped fork but for the price the evolution is ok. Handling is typical Trek 29er which is the best out there! The G2 geometry is superior to other 29ers I have ridden or currently own. Seems like it'll last forever. this one's a keeper.
    Dealers that didn't pre order these won't get them any time soon. my shop has 15, 17 and 19 in stock in the Stache 8 and Stache 7.

    One more.

    If you want a FIT or other Fox shock upgrade you can send off the fork to Fox and have it done. They used to have the prices listed. I think it is around $150

    Bike Suspension Upgrades | FOX
  • 11-21-2012
    Ufdah
    Mine is supposed to be in next week! One thing I haven't been able to find is the handlebar width. Does anyone know what is stock? I'm hoping that they realize that 580mm isn't really considered "trail" anymore... :p
  • 11-21-2012
    DukeNeverwinter
    Not sure, i'll bet it's either 680 or 720. Both common sizes for bondager bars.

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  • 11-22-2012
    stygz1
    It will be a wide bar. Probably the 720
  • 11-22-2012
    RetroS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    Mine is supposed to be in next week! One thing I haven't been able to find is the handlebar width. Does anyone know what is stock? I'm hoping that they realize that 580mm isn't really considered "trail" anymore... :p

    Just measured my 17.5 Statche bar for ya. Its 734mm end of grip straight across to opposite grip end.
  • 11-25-2012
    stygz1
    Called a few local shops and found a dealer with a stache 8 instock. Too bad it is not in my size. Anyway the dealer is only 15 min from a somewhat local riding spot. I may go later in the week. Currently I am wrestling with the idea of a Cannondale F29-2, Stump jumper FSR comp 29, or the Stache 8.

    Just to toss this ou there I got a deal on a green endura jersey with black and gun metal colored endura shorts this week. They would be a perfect match to the Stache 8.
  • 11-25-2012
    stygz1
    On the fox CTD system. Does the climb lock out or just stiffen the fork?
  • 11-25-2012
    Ufdah
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RetroS View Post
    Just measured my 17.5 Statche bar for ya. Its 734mm end of grip straight across to opposite grip end.

    THANK YOU! :thumbsup: That's great news, I can't see wanting to go wider than that right now. It's nice that Trek realizes that to market it as a "trail" bike that wide bars are in order...
  • 11-28-2012
    Jstache
    Mine is currently setting at the lbs still in the box. Pretty excited to see how the bike feels under me. Really enjoy the pics guys!
  • 11-29-2012
    Hand/of/Midas
    I am doing a frame build, and so far just have a Thomson Stem and Post on it. Going to do it nice with DT hubs, Stans, Etc.
  • 11-29-2012
    winginit
    3 Attachment(s)
    Here`s my new ride. goes good with the Fish!
  • 11-30-2012
    stygz1
    looks great! I talked to the lbs and the stache is not expected to be available until Feb. Going to check one out today at a bike shop close to a riding area.
  • 12-01-2012
    stygz1
    Got to do a parking lot ride on a stache yesterday. It would have went better if it was a 17.5" and not a 21". Great bike. This looks to be a burly efficient bike. I am going to hold off until I can do a proper demo at the Atlanta demo in late Feb. Could this be a replacement to my 2011 Fuel EX8? I am not itching to rid my fuel but really interested in the 29er and its advantages. My LBS says I will be pleasently surprized how smooth the Stache rides being a HT. The XR-3 tires seem to be pretty good. Seem close to the XR-4?

    Any rumor if 2014 Trek will offer a carbon version?
  • 12-01-2012
    spk1264
    1 Attachment(s)
    stache 7
    pics on trek website dont do this bike justice, the finish is transparent so you see the polished frame just like the stache 8...great bikes and the 7,s price was 1499 not bad at all (they didnt have an 8 in stock yet) :band:
  • 12-02-2012
    _Alberto_
    That's a good looking bike. I'd like to see more pics that one is rather crappy lol
  • 12-02-2012
    Jstache
    Had mine out today. Awesome bike it rails. It's so easy to get in the air. Super fast this fork is great shifting is awesome. Breaks are great. I love the shimano stuff.
  • 12-02-2012
    spk1264
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by _Alberto_ View Post
    That's a good looking bike. I'd like to see more pics that one is rather crappy lol

    yea, that pic not the best..I didnt have my phone :madman: and figured the person I was with was taking a few pics, but he didnt:mad: Looks so much better than their mamba,cobia,xcal paint schemes of this year..sorry
  • 12-02-2012
    JMUSuperman
    Mine



  • 12-05-2012
    Superfuel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by verdugomountainlocal View Post
    Here's my Stache 8. I love it! For the price it's spec'd great. The rear wheel is prettty heavy so I will upgrade down the line. Mine weighs 26.5 pounds with pedals in a 19.5 inch. really stiff rear end and stays.

    If I may ask...on your 19.5" Stache 8, are the rotors both 180mm front and rear, or is the rear a smaller 160mm? Also, are they centrelock or 6 bolt? I'd like to have the proper set of XT ice-techs on hand for when mine arrives :)
  • 12-05-2012
    stygz1
    I dont think it is centerloc because of the bontrager hubs. I dont remember the slx brakes (calipers)being ice tech.
  • 12-05-2012
    Superfuel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    I dont think it is centerloc because of the bontrager hubs. I dont remember the slx brakes (calipers)being ice tech.

    I've got a stock 2013 Superfly AL Elite and the rotors are centreloc (Bontrager hubs). I was thinking the Stache 8 would have them also instead of the 6 bolt style.

    I've seen others using SLX brakes with XT/Saint Ice Tech rotors with success, so thought I'd give that a try to see if there is much of an improvement.
  • 12-06-2012
    stygz1
    I hope the stache has centerloc.....i just figured not having shimano hubs it would not. If so that is a plus.

    As far as the brakes go I dont see why you cant use a ice tech rotor without ice tech calipers. I dont know if there is much to gain with just the ice tech rotors and not having the ice tech calipers. Let us know if you notice a difference. Does shimano offer a different ice tech brake pads?
  • 12-06-2012
    beer_coffee_water
    Ice tech brake pads have cooling fins on them. The caliper for say SLX or XT, is going to be same whether or not it came with finned pads.
  • 12-06-2012
    stygz1
    I thought the calipers had cooling fins but after looking closer to a pic it is just the brake pads
  • 12-10-2012
    Pedal4Fun
    1 Attachment(s)
    Trek Stache in a 23". Did a full custom build with XTR and Industry Nine's, Reverb etc. Just waiting on the chain guide to run it 1x10.
  • 12-11-2012
    spk1264
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pedal4Fun View Post
    Trek Stache in a 23". Did a full custom build with XTR and Industry Nine's, Reverb etc. Just waiting on the chain guide to run it 1x10.

    that is one sharp bike, let us know how it rides . Like to here the ride reviews.
  • 12-11-2012
    247
    Sweettt.....

    I am waiting to get a new tapered fork (harder to get the G2 one than I thought) without going to FOX themselves (and getting the new GOLD stanshion fork..)

    But seeing that I think I now want to go All-Out on this build (X-O) 2x10 setup and then I would have to get the Arch EX wheels you have!! Figured I am having my best year ever (work/salary wise) so why not just do it now (with new frame!!!)----here is my build now --it will look 'Totally different' this Spring riding these Pa. Trails!!!!

    --But I just LOVE this bike (Geometry wise)---it feels like a custome build to me!!
  • 12-16-2012
    friz
    Here's mine.

  • 12-17-2012
    stygz1
    Does the stache 8 have center lock disc rotors?
  • 12-17-2012
    RetroS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Does the stache 8 have center lock disc rotors?

    No centerlock. 6 Bolt on Bontrager branded hubs.
  • 12-18-2012
    DukeNeverwinter
    1 Attachment(s)
    In it's current form.
    Revelation
    XTR brakes/shifter/deraileurs
    XT crank, Raceface 22/36 rings
    E13 TRS+ Dual
    Mallet 3 pedals
    Reverb Post
    Rhythm Comp Wheels.
  • 12-21-2012
    Ufdah
    1 Attachment(s)
    Super stoked, mine made it to the shop! Hopefully I'll be riding it soon! Pics aren't great but it's all I could grab yesterday. I threw it on the scale at the shop and in bone stock form the 21" was 26lb 14oz. Planning to go tubeless and put some pedals on it :) so it'll probably end up around the same weight. Handle bars are 720mm and it looks as if you could run a 2.4 on there if you wanted. Even with the 2.3 you can see why the seat post is shaped the way it is, there would be no clearance otherwise.
    Attachment 746786
  • 12-21-2012
    stygz1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 247 View Post
    Sweettt.....

    I am waiting to get a new tapered fork (harder to get the G2 one than I thought) without going to FOX themselves (and getting the new GOLD stanshion fork..)

    But seeing that I think I now want to go All-Out on this build (X-O) 2x10 setup and then I would have to get the Arch EX wheels you have!! Figured I am having my best year ever (work/salary wise) so why not just do it now (with new frame!!!)----here is my build now --it will look 'Totally different' this Spring riding these Pa. Trails!!!!

    --But I just LOVE this bike (Geometry wise)---it feels like a custome build to me!!

    You can send your fork to FOX and have them do those upgrades. The gold is a Kashimra coating and you can get FIT converted also.
  • 12-21-2012
    stygz1
  • 12-25-2012
    archieaxe
    My local Trek Concept Store said they weren't stocking them until April.

    I'm actually not interested in the bike but if it was a 650B, I'd buy it right now.

    J
  • 12-27-2012
    Ufdah
    2 Attachment(s)
    First Ride!
    I got to bring it home yesterday! I didn't have a cent to buy a new bike but the LBS needed a new website (cycleandfitness.net) so in exchange for my time in making them a new user manageable site they ordered me a Stache! I think he felt bad that I was still on my 1999 Trek 6000 too... ;)
    I feel like a kid in a candy store! :D

    Took my first ride up and down the street to start bedding in the brakes. It was my first time without clips or clipless in 15 years, I didn't realize how much I pull on the upstroke. Every time I started to mash hard I was picking my feet up off the pedal... :eek: But, I'm stoked I think it's going to be a great ride, I may get a shorter stem on order, around 70mm or so. I'd like a little more leverage when pulling on the bars and I feel pretty stretched out on it with the wider bars. Anyways... without further adieu, here's the bike:

    Attachment 748415

    And here's my bike mechanic:
    Attachment 748416
  • 12-27-2012
    spk1264
    sounds like you have a great LBS that took care of ya for your work, Its a pretty rad bike, I really want to test ride one of these. Have yourself a blast on that green beast . Congrats !!
  • 01-06-2013
    Noob9ers
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    Hello everyone, I'm proud to say I'm part of the Stache crew. I ordered this two weeks ago and picked it up last weekend. I originally purchased a 2012 Ex8 but it had a few problems so I decided to get store credit and wait for the Stache. I was also trying to wait for some reviews but I couldn't hold out. When I ordered it a few weeks ago my lbs had a 10% off sale on all 2013 bikes and I received a 100.00 trek gift card so I'm loving my shop right now. It's 25 miles from me but they have a loyal customer now. Sorry for the side way pics I could figure how to turn them after posting, they view proper on my computer.
  • 01-06-2013
    Ufdah
    Nice, welcome to the fold! I've been enjoying mine, got a couple rides in, it's miles ahead of my last bike.

    23"!!! How big a boy are ya!? ;) I see the o-ring on the left fork, I suppose that came on it? Mine didn't have one.
  • 01-09-2013
    Noob9ers
    Thanks, I cant wait for the weather to break here in Jersey to get some rides in. I'm 6 4" and did not like the feel of the 21.5 ex8, it felt like I was on top of the handle bars. This bike is gorgeous, the only thing I don't like about it is the grips.

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  • 01-10-2013
    stygz1
    Never noticed the frame size sticker say 21.5" / virtual 23". Is that a 29er thing?
  • 01-10-2013
    blunderbuss
    No, virtual/actual is just a Trek thing. The seattube actually measures 21.5", but the toptube length makes it fit like a 23. My 19" Stache actually has a an 18" seattube.
  • 01-12-2013
    stygz1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Noob9ers View Post
    Hello everyone, I'm proud to say I'm part of the Stache crew. I ordered this two weeks ago and picked it up last weekend. I originally purchased a 2012 Ex8 but it had a few problems so I decided to get store credit and wait for the Stache. I was also trying to wait for some reviews but I couldn't hold out. When I ordered it a few weeks ago my lbs had a 10% off sale on all 2013 bikes and I received a 100.00 trek gift card so I'm loving my shop right now. It's 25 miles from me but they have a loyal customer now. Sorry for the side way pics I could figure how to turn them after posting, they view proper on my computer.

    How do you like the stashe vs the fuel? The stache is on my radar along with a superfly or superfly 100
  • 01-12-2013
    stygz1
    Do you think the superfly HT will be a noticably faster/more efficient than the stashe?

    Anyone notice on the trek website the stache on the main page has a rock shox fork and different handlebars?
  • 01-12-2013
    Ufdah
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    Anyone notice on the trek website the stache on the main page has a rock shox fork and different handlebars?

    Wow, that's interesting, looks like the 2012 Reba. Must have been a contender during development...
  • 01-12-2013
    Superfuel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    Wow, that's interesting, looks like the 2012 Reba. Must have been a contender during development...

    The Stache used in most of the Trek promos I've seen is being ridden by Ross Schnell, who is sponsored by the SRAM/Rockshox/Truvativ group. Therefore, his rides are usually customised with their components instead of the stock bits.
  • 01-13-2013
    stygz1
    Who is Ross? I have heard of him but dont know what he is known for.
  • 01-14-2013
    stygz1
    Used stashe 8 on ebay 19"
  • 01-20-2013
    DavezFever
    Anyone running the stache single speed? If so what did you find worked best?
  • 01-20-2013
    rfxc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavezFever View Post
    Anyone running the stache single speed? If so what did you find worked best?

    I've been curious whether you could use an ISCG guide as some sort of chain tensioner, to run it SS.

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  • 01-20-2013
    DukeNeverwinter
    I have a e13 TRS+ dual mine. Works great. Had an MRP first and it was junk.....

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  • 01-25-2013
    jeng
    2 Attachment(s)
    I built this thing with stuff laying around in my garage.. I proceeded to destroy the rear 29er wheel in two rides at a very rocky/technical park near my house (I attribute this to the front end writing checks that the rear end can't cash and certainly not my riding style :rolleyes:) then, not wanting to put a lot money into this bike build, pulled a 26er wheel out of my laying around garage inventory, slapped it on and I have to say, I've been having a lot of fun on the new "69er Stache". I wish I could tuck the rear wheel in a little though. Would make my manuals a lot easier...

    This a very confused bike with two different wheel sizes, trek with specialized seat post/seat and the fact that I probably should be running a chain guide. With the type II sram der the chain stays on... for the most part.
  • 01-27-2013
    Jstache
    I just ordered a dropper post and a much needed bash guard. Can't wait to try the dropper post on this rig!
  • 02-02-2013
    JUNGLEKID5
    so how do people like the tires that come on this bike.. the bontrager 29-3 experts
  • 02-02-2013
    pfox90
    This bike is pretty sweet. I am digging the green color they threw on this years stache and rumblefish as we are in MSU country.
  • 02-02-2013
    friz
    Got a few more pics.





  • 02-02-2013
    stygz1
    Pink bike stache 8 review

    Trek Stache 8 - Tested - Pinkbike
  • 02-02-2013
    rfxc
    Re: Lets see your Stache official thread
    Holy high handlebars, batman!

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  • 02-08-2013
    Ufdah
    I just completed the tubeless conversion and have to say it was EASY! Using stock Bontrager Duster rims and 29-3 tires. To do the conversion I used the Bontrager Rhythm Symmetrical strips (P/N 406892) and Bonty presta valves with 2oz Stans in each tire. With the first tire I didn't even need the compressor; I just used my floor pump and aired it up. Second one I needed the initial volume of the compressor to seat the tire but it was completely uneventful. Even with only 15psi in the tires I don't see how I could burp one of these, they are on there solid. Highly recommended for anyone that hasn't gone tubeless before and is scared to, this was my first try at tubeless and I won't go back. (Especially after having got a thorn puncture on my first ride on the Stache w/ tubes... :shocked:)
  • 02-09-2013
    odyssey12305
    Anyone running triple crankset?
  • 02-11-2013
    jvossman
    fox 34 140 on the stache 8
    rode the bike at a trek demo yesterday at amelia park in Hialeah FL. My question is whether anybody has tried one of the fox 34 front forks. My thought is that this would make it super stiff and slightly more relaxed front end. Anybody try this yet?

    Gracias

    John Voss
  • 02-13-2013
    welbeast
    Just ordered all my parts up for the Stache frame I have.

    XX1 grouppo
    Bontrager RXL Wheels
    Rockshox reverb Stealth Dropper
    Fox 32 CTD 120mm
    Schwalbe Racing Ralph 29x2.25
    Bontrager RXL 720mm handlebar
    Bontrager Rhythym Pro stem

    So excited for this build. I'll post pics when it's done.
  • 02-13-2013
    Ufdah
    I think you're going to be pretty happy with that build welbeast! I'm digging mine!
  • 02-13-2013
    Ufdah
    Broke my Stache... :eek:

    After about 100 miles my Fox CTD fork damper failed. The first 100 miles when in Climb mode the fork nearly locked out but would sag some from hard hits due to the blow-off valve (what I understand to be normal operation). Two weeks ago that changed and Climb mode felt pretty much like Trail, I had full suspension travel while in Climb. Looking around I found this thread, http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspen...ue-806075.html which helped me to realize that I wasn't imagining things. I used Fox's service request form on their site and in four business days had my fork back in my hands with a replaced damper, completely free of cost! (That's what I call service!) I quickly tested out the fork before putting it on the bike and unfortunately Climb mode didn't work on that damper either... :( I then wrote Ed at Fox again and he offered to replace the damper again but this time with a Performance FIT cartridge to give me peace of mind and is sending the new removed damper as a spare! I should have the fork back in my hands by Monday.

    I share this for two reasons. One, it seems that these forks, especially the early models, are prone to damper failure so keep your eye out for it. Second, Fox has amazing customer support and I have been very pleased with the support they have given me and I wanted to share my experience with them.
  • 02-13-2013
    DukeNeverwinter
    Re: Lets see your Stache official thread
    I like fox....but their build qualities have been in the tanks lately. Source, shop rat.

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  • 02-16-2013
    SmokinBroccoli
    So what do we think guys, could the Stache 8 hold a BMF Clydesdale (6'5" 350#)? I've given up on the Fuel EX 8/Remedy 8 for now, since I'm told a HT is the way to go til I shed some weight.
  • 02-16-2013
    welbeast
    According to Trek no. Weight limit is 300lbs, same with the remedy and fuel.

    If you have the money you could try. You'll probably need a beefier set of wheels though at the very least. Kona used to make a bike called the Clydesdale that was designed for heavier riders. Not sure if they still do or if there is a weight limit.

    As far as a 29er hard tail goes I would take a look at Misfit Pscycles(spelling?). They make some steel frames that use really beefy tubing.
  • 02-16-2013
    SmokinBroccoli
    Re: Lets see your Stache official thread
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by welbeast View Post
    According to Trek no. Weight limit is 300lbs, same with the remedy and fuel.

    If you have the money you could try. You'll probably need a beefier set of wheels though at the very least. Kona used to make a bike called the Clydesdale that was designed for heavier riders. Not sure if they still do or if there is a weight limit.

    As far as a 29er hard tail goes I would take a look at Misfit Pscycles(spelling?). They make some steel frames that use really beefy tubing.

    Damn alright, that just leaves the SC Chameleon and the Stumpy Evo 29... Leaning more towards the SC on this one.

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  • 02-20-2013
    EGF168
    Are the head tube lengths coming in at the claimed 118mm on 21 and 23in sizes?
  • 02-21-2013
    Ufdah
    I just measured my 21" and it's pretty close, 118.8mm. I think the actual head tube is pretty much right at 118mm but the clear coat add a skosh...
  • 02-21-2013
    Gouda Cheez
    Lets see your Stache official thread
    Hey guys... n00b here. ;)

    I've been eyeing a Stache 7 at my LBS. Seems like everyone is pretty happy with theirs in this thread. While I know the components aren't top notch on the 7, they should be enough to get me started on some single track, right?

    This particular build comes with a Recon Silver fork, 2x10 Shimano SLX drivetrain, Elixir 1 brakes, and Bontrager wheels and tires (like most Treks do). I really like the idea of a 2x10 for the terrain I'll be riding (unless someone can convince me of going 1x9 or 10. Thoughts?
  • 02-21-2013
    stygz1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Hey guys... n00b here. ;)

    I've been eyeing a Stache 7 at my LBS. Seems like everyone is pretty happy with theirs in this thread. While I know the components aren't top notch on the 7, they should be enough to get me started on some single track, right?

    This particular build comes with a Recon Silver fork, 2x10 Shimano SLX drivetrain, Elixir 1 brakes, and Bontrager wheels and tires (like most Treks do). I really like the idea of a 2x10 for the terrain I'll be riding (unless someone can convince me of going 1x9 or 10. Thoughts?

    The SLX gear has been good to me on my EX8. The build overall is plenty good to get you on the trail and then some. The only weak thing I notice is the brakes. They still will be just fine as you build skill. But save up for some SLX or XT brakes down the road.
  • 02-21-2013
    Gouda Cheez
    Lets see your Stache official thread
    That's what I have heard in general about the Elixir 1's. I can't imagine it being a huge deal to replace them down the road. I was most concerned with the fork (is the silver no-good compared to the gold) and the Bontager stuff.

    Thanks for your help and input!
  • 02-21-2013
    Ufdah
    The only real differences that matter to me are the fork, brakes and crank. The crank is probably not going to be perceivable except to the most experienced riders, the brakes are quite a bit different. SLX are great brakes, Elixers are said to be OK if set up well but not quite the 1-finger ease of the SLX and it's been said that they require more maintenance. The last is the forks and this is the biggest difference. The Recon weighs about 1lb more that the Fox and only has lock-out rather than three settings of compression dampening (CTD). If you're not a weight weenie and are just looking for a SOLID bike to get started on the 7 is going to be great! If you decide to upgrade the fork and brakes down the road you'll be well over the $660 difference in price (The fork alone is that much). I'm guessing there's maybe 1.5lb difference in the two bikes.

    That's a lot of words just to say that you'll be VERY happy with the 7. I'd only get the 8 if you are planning to upgrade the fork in the future or are very concerned with weight.
  • 02-21-2013
    Gouda Cheez
    Lets see your Stache official thread
    Thanks for providing the details. That helps a lot. I don't think I have enough of a knowledge base to know what I will upgrade yet. I just want something solid to start with. Since the 7 is the 'lower budget' version of the 8, I question the quality (kinda like a base model car vs. fully loaded).

    I like certain things (the 2x10, Shimano drivetrain) on the Stache a lot as well as the Trek name and rep that comes along with it. I'm also considering looking at a Kona Taro but the 1x9 gearing scares me a bit for climbing. Also considered a Specialized Carve Comp 29... same price point as the Stache 7, I think.

    Either way, thank you. Any other input you have on the bikes listed above (without going crazy off topic) would be appreciated.
  • 02-21-2013
    stygz1
    You should be able to just buy calipers and levers if you upgrade brakes. Should be no need for rotors. Very easy upgrade. Probably cost you just over $200. The bontrager stuff will do you well. No issues with wheels and so on. The elixer 1 will be fine for awhile but you will want better later. You could have the dealer trade you up to SLX before you leave the shop. Maybe offer the shop retail on the bike but ask fo rSLX brakes (shop keeps the stock brakes) and swap you over to tubless.
  • 02-21-2013
    stygz1
    I think the fork on the 7 will be fine for atleast a few years.
  • 02-24-2013
    bigkat273
    Ordered a Stache 7 19.5" last week and it arrived at the lbs on Friday. Looks great, unfortunately it came from the factory with a tweaked rear triangle/dropouts. When inserting the rear axle it missed the drive side dropout by almost 3/8"!! So off to warranty with it. Kinda bummed but at least there is a foot of snow on the ground so not a big rush.

    Just to chime in on the fork discussion...I went with the 7 because I actually prefer the RS fork (ease of service/manuals/parts etc.) And if the riding is that gnarly I take out the Tracer VP anyway. Only plan on swapping out the TK damper for MoCo damper ($50ish) and SLX brakes sometime this summer.
  • 02-24-2013
    friz
    Mine don't line up perfect either. But not off that much.
  • 02-24-2013
    stygz1
    Just got back from the southeast bike expo. Got to demo the stache on the trails there. It is really a nice package. The trails are actually where the 1996 olymipic mountain bike race was held. The hard tail was great on the first lap (probably 5-6 miles total) then I rode the rumblefish elite and then the superfly 100 al elite. Then finally I went out for one last lap on the stache. I like it alot but have reservations on the HT thing. But I should note the trail rides alot on the face of granite rock/hill. There is absolutly no give the that ground. Handleing was good. The first stache I rode was better than the second. The second bike had some creeking and the fox CDT did not seem to work. The other trails there were supposed to be pretty muddy I stayed away from those. There was a "feel" to the bike that I really liked. I was not loving it the second time out. At that point I was pretty tired so that took away from the experience. My local trails would be more forgiving that the granite rock. When I say rock it is not loose rock. It is a large face of a hill that is rock. THe 29-3 tires are great! The weight of the bike was great also. There were a couple dips in the trail probably a 4 foot swell and the stache felt the best jumping but of course it is not a FS bike. At this point for my trails I would either buy the Superfly 100 AL elite or the stache 8.

    On another note is anyone else having issues with the MTBR website?
  • 02-24-2013
    friz
    It seams that a fairly high percentage of the open bath CTD forks (like the one on the Stache8) fail almost immediately. The good news is; They seem to hold up after FOX repairs them.
  • 02-24-2013
    Ufdah
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friz View Post
    Mine don't line up perfect either. But not off that much.

    Same here, I've got about 1/4 inch of play also.
  • 02-24-2013
    bigkat273
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ufdah View Post
    Same here, I've got about 1/4 inch of play also.

    Yea mine was off enough that it took two people to put the rear wheel on... One to compress/twist the triangle and the other to put the axle through.
  • 02-25-2013
    mhopton
    Lets see your Stache official thread
    I would be very concerned about a mis-aligned rear dropout issue. If that occurs on mine when it gets in, I imagine that I'd have a hard time taking it home.
  • 02-25-2013
    stygz1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friz View Post
    It seams that a fairly high percentage of the open bath CTD forks (like the one on the Stache8) fail almost immediately. The good news is; They seem to hold up after FOX repairs them.

    It seemed to be in the trail setting. I should have tried experimenting with the CTD on the other bikes
  • 02-25-2013
    friz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stygz1 View Post
    It seemed to be in the trail setting. I should have tried experimenting with the CTD on the other bikes

    When to dampner goes. The switch does nothing and all the settings are mush.