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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    Hello everyone,

    I've recently purchased a 2012 Trek Marlin, and I'm under the impression that the other bikes in this "29er Sport" (Wahoo, Marlin, Mamba) and 29er Race (Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon) series are exactly the same frame, with upgraded Fork, drivetrain/brakes, wheels, etc. based on their respective MSRP.

    What I want to know is how much does your bike weigh?
    What model and size frame?
    What parts did you upgrade to achieve this weight?
    Any recommendations on upgrade path?



    Thanks for all your input, I'm excited to upgrade as my skillset improves, and eventually end up with a kick-ass aluminum hard-tail

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    you are partially correct in thinking the 29er HT family using the same frame. the only exception of the paragon frame being different than that of the rest. the paragon uses press fit BB instead of the standard 73mm threaded type and also has a tapered head tube.

    i too own a marlin 19" but mine is a 2011. i have not weighed the bike stock but i have weighed it with my bathroom scale (weigh myself first, then weigh myself hold bike, subtract my weight = bike weight). i have done a couple of upgrades before the weigh in.

    mine so far has the following mods:
    easton ea50 30mm riser bar
    truvativ hussefelt 40mm stem
    sette s lock on grips
    speed dial 7 levers
    bb7 brakes w.185mm rotors f/r
    panaracer rampage 2.35 front tire/ tioga psycho genius 2.25 rear (slime tubes f/r) -- soon to be tubeless
    shimano slx double crankset
    wellgo mg52 platform pedals
    hurricane mini pump

    with these mods my bike weighed in at ~30lbs (all reflectors removed)

    i have in my possession these components awaiting my stan's wheelset so they can be installed.

    2010 fox f29 fit rlc100 15qr
    salsa 32t chainring, sram x9 9spd shifter, x9 rd, mrp 1x chain guide, pg990 cassette (1x9 convert)
    cane creek 40 series zs headset

    looking to change out the saddle and seatpost too...

    i know ive overbuilt this bike but i really like the frame's geo and i like to mod!

    i think the best path for entry level upgrade is better brakes, mid level fork, better crankset should be more than adequate in reducing weight and upping performance.

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    In the pic (bike is sold now) the bike weighed in at 22lbs. Only thing left from stock bike was the Frame, Fork and RD.

    Shimano XT M775 brakes
    Gatorbrake Aries rotors
    Bonty RL seat
    Thomson elite post
    Easton Monkeylite SL
    ESI Chunky grips
    MRP x1 BB mount
    Shimano XT M760
    Shimano XT 11/34 Cassette
    Sram X.7 shifters
    2 Racing Ralphs.. 2.4 (FR) 2.25 (R).
    Wheelset is Velocity VXC on Halo 6 hubs
    Salsa Skewers

    Think thats it =)

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    My 2011 Paragon 19" frame with only ergon grips and pedals (shimano 820?) is right around 26.5 pounds on the bikeshop scale.
    If I recall from previous searches on this site the 2011 x-cal is right arouns 27.5 to 28 with pedals.

    Biggest recomendation for weight loss is wheels and tires. Stock tires can be 700 to 800 grams each. A set of 600gr. tires save almost a pound. Farily easy to drop another pound on the wheels.

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    So I weighed my bike using the digital bathroom scale method, so my info is:

    32.2lbs
    2012 Marlin, 15.5" (small)
    Only upgrades so far are 2012 XT pedals (trail) and a Planet Bike gel seat. I think both maybe even added weight

    I think my next upgrades are going to be a Bontrager RXL/RXXXL stem and handlebar to get the cockpit right.

    Then for next summer I think I'm going to do a full 2012 XT group set. Probably do wheels/tires around the same time too, but so far I'm uneducated on wheelsets and don't know what will suit me and the terrain here.

    I'm interested on how other people have built up their G2 hardtails, I'd appreciate if you posted.

    Thanks and Regards.

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    2011 Paragon - 17.5" frame - 25.0lbs on my friends scale.

    Although listed with Bontrager tires, mine (and other peoples I've seen) came with Schwalbe Rocket Rons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qa_bugfinder View Post
    My 2011 Paragon 19" frame with only ergon grips and pedals (shimano 820?) is right around 26.5 pounds on the bikeshop scale.
    If I recall from previous searches on this site the 2011 x-cal is right arouns 27.5 to 28 with pedals.
    You are right on, my 2011 21" X-Cal weighs 28lbs with XT pedals and TLR Nobby Nic tires (with tubes for now).

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    2012 Trek Marlin 29er-100% Stock, no upgrades.

    19'' Frame-36lbs Bathroom Scale confirmed with full waterbottle.

    What I plan to upgrade:

    1. The Tektro brakes are total ass.
    2. The stock fork is equally useless. I really thought that at this stage in my life (31,kids,etc) I would be doing light trails and mainly sticking to pavement. Well, I basically push the limits everytime I ride and pretty much expect to seriously F something up sooner or later. So when that happens, I'll buy a new fork and some additional life insurance.
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    2011 19" paragon

    easton ec70 wide bars
    odi lock on grips
    rxl cage
    shimano 540 pedals
    thomson masterpiece post
    crest wheel set with ck hubs
    RoRo

    just under 25#
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    2011 Paragon - 19" frame - 26.5# - stock

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    cobia is 13.8kg

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    Got my 2011 19" Mamba down to 24.60lbs with pedals, water bottle cage, cateye and sensors. It weighed 31lbs stock. I dropped 7lbs with the following mods: Stans Crest Wheels, racing ralph tires, thomson seatpost and stem, truvativ bars, x0 brakes, 2x10 x9 groupset- frnt der, rear der, crank, shifters, etc. fizik tundra seat, crank brother candy pedals, fox g2 rlc100 front fork.

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    2011 Trek Marlin 29er 17.5" frame with my old bar ends = 14.65 kg ~ 32 lbs 4 oz.

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    29.0 pounds on the nose (bathroom scale, I get on and then get on with the bike)
    2011 X-Caliber 21 inch frame
    Odyssey trail mix pedals, Sunline twisted waffle lock on grips, Garmin handlebar mount as weighed otherwise it is as it came from the factory.

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    2011 x-cal 17.5 inch frame

    Digital bathroom scale

    Stock with some old shimano spd platform pedals = 27lbs

    Upgraded parts
    Egg beater sl pedals
    Lizard skins lock on grips
    Easton Ec90 carbon low rise bars
    Easton Ec90 stem
    SDG Fly seat
    SDG carbon I beam seat post

    Currently weighs in at just under 26lbs

    Wheels will probally be next

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    @HighLife420

    Beautiful bike, I'm jealous
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    2011 marlin XL...30lbs deore ext bb crankset deore front deraileur captin tires diamond back pedals

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    Just picked up a 2012 Trek Mamba 19' today. Its my first 29r. I came off a Giant Trance to this cause I wanted to see what the 29rs are all about! I wieghed it stock and its 31lbs....


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    My 2012 Marlin 15.5 weighs 35 lbs.
    Added gel seat, Bontrager flat kit, Cat eyes computer and wider pedals.
    I really need to get the weight down, she is fat and the brakes and fork is ****. I cant lock the rear and wipped out twice already.

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    Whats lighter brakes are you guys upgrading to?

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    I'm about three weeks into a squealing 2012 Trek Marlin 29er (purchased for under 600) and thinking of returning/selling it for something else. I can get my hands on a 12Y Trek Mamba for about $750 and a 12Y Cobia for $950. Also, I could probably use those prices to bargain down a selection from another manufacturer.

    A Talon 29er 0, a Felt Sport, a Cannondale 29er SL3 are a few that come to mind… all retail at roughly the same point as the Cobia and I could probably get them for 20% less.

    So if you had your choice of any mtb in the 1200 range that you could buy for 950, one for which you could easily get service and support, which would you buy and why?

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    The biggest upgrade that will also save weight and improve performance will be the fork and then the wheelset.

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    2011 Trek Cobia 21 inch

    From the bathroom scale method, the bike started out at 29.5 Lb. I used an accurate scale to weigh each piece that I upgraded to get an accurate change in weight.

    The first column is the weight of the newer or different part. The next column gives the weight of the part from the original Cobia. Next column is the weight difference in grams and the final column is the weight gain or loss in Lbs.

    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?-bike-weight.png

    After swapping out some parts with my older 26 inch bike that I am retiring, I dropped a touch over 2.7 Lbs off of the original weight for a new estimate of about 26.7. I can see a few things to do that would bring me under 26 like the grips, the pedals, and going tubeless.

    The table gives a quick idea of where some potential weight savings could come from on these bikes.


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    Edit. Bathroom scale is not too good in this case apparently. Table weights are good for what I put on the scale but total start and finish weights are off. See updated post below.
    Final weight of bike is actually 28.14 according to local bike shop digital scale.
    Last edited by chris5107; 08-27-2012 at 06:04 AM. Reason: update on final weight

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    2012 Superfly AL Elite, basically stock except for Tubless-ready & some little piddly stuff.

    Bongrager tubeless-ready system with Stans goo. 85 g savings per wheel using 2 oz of goo per tire.

    2" cut from handlebars 18g savings plus now it fits between the trees.

    2" cut from seatpost. 15g savings

    Bottle cage bolts replaced with nylon screws to fill holes. About 15 g savings

    Carbon headtube spacers saved 5 grams ($1 per gram but it looks cool. I actially added an extra 5mm carbon spacer so weight savings is down to 2 grams.

    Add:

    Eggbeater 3 pedals.

    Cateye strada wireless.

    Total weight 26.6#.

    Here are the weights of some of the components:

    Tube2 & valve cap2 180g each
    Tires 625g each
    Stock rim strops 20g each
    Replacement tubeless rim strips 50g each
    Tubeless stems 5g each

    Front wheel & rotor 1075g (not sure if this was with rim strip or not).

    Front skewer 55g
    Rear skewer 64g

    Rear wheel, rotor, cassette, wheel, & stock rim strip 1775g

    Headtube top 10g
    Headtube bolt 8g
    Headtube spacers 3x10mm 22g total

    Water bottle bolts & spacers 17g

    Cassette 448g (The cassette is very low-end. I will replace it with SLX or X7 (is X7 posible?) when it wears out).


    Seatpost (before cutting) 270g.
    Saddle 270g

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    @ Chris5107

    Curious if you have weighed just the frame to find out what it weighs as I have the exact same frame size as you. Trek doesn't readily give out that info because according to them there are variances in weight due to manufacturing processes (duh!). I was planning on breaking down the bike completely this winter to find out, but perhaps you have already weighed it. I have been thinking about converting it to a 1X9 race bike, but if the frame is a porker then I will probably look at a lighter frame to use as a platform.

    Thanks!

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    Using the bathroom scale, my 17.5 2012 X-cal came in at 25lbs.

    2011 RXL wheelset
    WTB Valcon seat
    M520 pedals
    ESI chunky grips
    Cutter carbon cage and a Bontrager RL cage.
    29-1 2.20 tires into tubeless.
    Fork steerer was cut down also.
    Sunline V-One 762mm wides bars with a Truativ T20 75mm stem. (pretty sure new stem is heavier than stock one)

    Everything else is stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc927 View Post
    @ Chris5107

    Curious if you have weighed just the frame to find out what it weighs as I have the exact same frame size as you. Trek doesn't readily give out that info because according to them there are variances in weight due to manufacturing processes (duh!). I was planning on breaking down the bike completely this winter to find out, but perhaps you have already weighed it. I have been thinking about converting it to a 1X9 race bike, but if the frame is a porker then I will probably look at a lighter frame to use as a platform.

    Thanks!
    I did not tear it down to the bare frame and my accurate scale only goes up to 2000g.

    My guess is that the frame is not too heavy based on anecdotal comparisons to my old 4900 26er frame.

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    Just weighed my 2011 X-cal on a set of digital fish scales that I've had forever. Weighed a 5lb bag of sugar first to see how accurate it would be and it read 5.1 lbs. My X-cal came in at 26.5. But I have not got a wheelset for it yet so I know when I can get that it should drop on down around 24. I've put a carbon bar on, WTB V saddle, Lizzard Skins Peaty lock on grips, Axiom Cycle computer, Crank Brothers 50/50 pedals, a shorter 70mm stem and I have a USE Alien Cyclops seatpost on the way. I removed the brake and rotor from the front. I ride greenway and hardpack and didn't feel a need for it.
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    2009 Cobia - 28.6lbs

    Deore Crank with external beaings
    bontrager rhythm comp wheelset
    Avid Elixer R
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    Update

    So I've completed my upgrade, my 2012 Marlin is now running a full Shimano XT (M780/785) groupset.

    Here are the specs:
    2012 Trek Marlin 29er
    15.5" frame size
    Shimano XT M785 hydraulic brakes
    Shimano Icetech 160mm rotors (6-bolt)

    Shimano XT M780 ispec shifters
    Shimano XT M785 front crankset - 2x10 - 170mm, 24/38
    Shimano XT M785 2x front derailleur
    Shimano XT M786 Shadow Plus rear derailleur - GS (mid-cage)
    Shimano XT M785 pedals

    Shimano XT HG94 chain
    Shimano XT M771 cassette - 11/36

    Planet Bike gel seat.

    Weight = 31.5 lbs


    My wife has a 2012 Trek Mamba
    15.5" size frame
    Selle Italia Donna gel seat
    All else stock, including reflectors

    Weight 31.6 lbs


    I am using a Balanzza mini luggage scale to weigh the bikes.

    As you can see, I didn't save much weight from doing the component swap. If I did lose any weight, the difference between me and my wifes Mamba is probably offset by the fork.

    So if you're looking for huge weight savings, start with your wheel/tire combo first (which is what everyone recommends upgrading first anyways).

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    Weight = 131.5 lbs
    What planet are you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    What planet are you on?
    Lol, post corrected.

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    My medium 2012mamba weighed in yesterday at 30.8lbs on a bike scale.

    I have a carbon seat post, laserdisc front wheel, x9 shifters and rear deraileur, new saddle and heavier than oem Easton stem.

    My buddy with an upgraded 2012, tubeless weighed in at 28.6

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    My custom Superfly AL Elite 2012


    Frame Superfly AL Elite 2012, L Size
    Front suspension RockShox SID XX 29er QR
    Wheels NoTubes ZTR Crest+DTSwiss 240s QR+Sapim D-Light+YellowRim
    Tires Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi+w/o tubes
    Shifters Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012 2/3х10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012
    Rear derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, L
    Crank Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 38/26, 175mm+Shimano SM-BB71-41A
    Cassette Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012,CS-M771, 11-36, 10 speed
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012
    Seatpost 3T Doric Team, 27.2х350, White
    Handlebar 3T Xida Pro Alloy, 31.8mm 640mm, Black (Will change
    3T Xida Team Carbon, 31.8mm 640mm, White)
    Stem 3T ARX Team, 100mm 6 degree, White
    Headset FSA NO.57, E2, sealed bearings
    Brakeset Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 180mm Rotors IceTech (6-bolts)
    Grips Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012

    Weight 22lbs 11oz (w/o pedals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My custom Superfly AL Elite 2012


    Frame Superfly AL Elite 2012, L Size
    Front suspension RockShox SID XX 29er QR
    Wheels NoTubes ZTR Crest+DTSwiss 240s QR+Sapim D-Light+YellowRim
    Tires Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi+w/o tubes
    Shifters Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012 2/3х10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012
    Rear derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, L
    Crank Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 38/26, 175mm+Shimano SM-BB71-41A
    Cassette Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012,CS-M771, 11-36, 10 speed
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012
    Seatpost 3T Doric Team, 27.2х350, White
    Handlebar 3T Xida Pro Alloy, 31.8mm 640mm, Black (Will change
    3T Xida Team Carbon, 31.8mm 640mm, White)
    Stem 3T ARX Team, 100mm 6 degree, White
    Headset FSA NO.57, E2, sealed bearings
    Brakeset Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 180mm Rotors IceTech (6-bolts)
    Grips Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012

    Weight 22lbs 11oz (w/o pedals)

    That really looks nice!!!

    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you to do all of the Mods??? And did you do the work yourself????

    I would love make some modifications on my 2012 Mamba, just the cost thing makes it difficult. Like everything else money makes the world go around. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmmagoo4 View Post
    That really looks nice!!!

    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you to do all of the Mods??? And did you do the work yourself????

    I would love make some modifications on my 2012 Mamba, just the cost thing makes it difficult. Like everything else money makes the world go around. Lol
    My old bike was stolen. I decided to put together a dream bike.

    Frame i bought from ebay 683.45 USD

    Groupset:
    - 1 x Crankset Shimano XT (FC-M785) 26-38
    - 1 x BB Shimano Hollowtech II (SM-BB70)
    - 1 x Rear derailleur Shimano XT Shadow (RD-M780)
    - 1 x Front derailleur Shimano XT (FD-M786)
    - 2 x Shimano XT Trigger 2/3x10 (SL-M780)
    - 1 x Cassette Shimano XT (CS-M771-10) 11-36 10-Speed
    - 1 x Chain Shimano XT (CN-HG94)
    - 2 x BL-M785 + BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brake System
    - 2 x 180mm IceTech Rotors
    I bought from bike-components - 486.55 EUR = 622 USD

    Wheelset:
    - Hub: DT 240s disc VR+HR 6-Bolts Black
    - 2 х Rim:NoTubes ZTR Crest white 29er
    - 64 х Spokes:Sapim D-Light 2.0/1.65 Black
    - 64 х Nipples:Alu Red
    I bought from actionsport - 432,35 EUR = 552.7 USD

    Fork
    Rock Shox Sid XX DA 2012 white 29" - XLoc diff. models
    I bought from actionsport - 520,92 EUR = 665.9 USD

    Other from chainreactioncycles
    FSA FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered Steerer - 1.5" / 1-1/8" - Black $101.04
    Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012 - Pair - Black $12.98
    3T ARX Team Stem - White - 100mm / 6 Deg $96.23
    3T Xida Team Carbon Flat Bars 31.8mm 640mm White $113.31
    Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012 - White - Vanox Rails $98.98
    NoTubes Stan's Rim Tape - 10Yds x 21mm $16.48
    NoTubes Stan's Universal Valve Stem MTB 2012 - Universal - 35mm - Pair For MTB $17.85
    2 х Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre - 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi $39.86
    Shimano BB71 MTB Press Fit Bottom Bracket $33.31
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 100mm Front Synthetic Lever $27.49
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 135mm Rear Synthetic Lever $27.49
    Summ = 624,88 USD

    And 3T Doric Team Carbon Seatpost-27.2mm/350mm/white i bought from twohubs - 139.00 USD, because can not find it in any other shops.

    Amount 3300 USD for a dream bike

    I assembled myself all. Only BB and headset adjust master in bike shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trueblue01gt View Post
    2011 19" paragon

    easton ec70 wide bars
    odi lock on grips
    rxl cage
    shimano 540 pedals
    thomson masterpiece post
    crest wheel set with ck hubs
    RoRo

    just under 25#
    got my bike down to 24 even now.
    switched to eggbeater 1's
    bontrager 29.1 2.0 team issues
    sram 1070 cassette
    kmc x10sl chain
    esi racers edge grips
    bontrager evoke rxl carbon saddle
    2007 Fisher Rig
    2011 Trek Paragon
    2013 Trek Madone 2.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My old bike was stolen. I decided to put together a dream bike.

    Frame i bought from ebay 683.45 USD

    Groupset:
    - 1 x Crankset Shimano XT (FC-M785) 26-38
    - 1 x BB Shimano Hollowtech II (SM-BB70)
    - 1 x Rear derailleur Shimano XT Shadow (RD-M780)
    - 1 x Front derailleur Shimano XT (FD-M786)
    - 2 x Shimano XT Trigger 2/3x10 (SL-M780)
    - 1 x Cassette Shimano XT (CS-M771-10) 11-36 10-Speed
    - 1 x Chain Shimano XT (CN-HG94)
    - 2 x BL-M785 + BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brake System
    - 2 x 180mm IceTech Rotors
    I bought from bike-components - 486.55 EUR = 622 USD

    Wheelset:
    - Hub: DT 240s disc VR+HR 6-Bolts Black
    - 2 х Rim:NoTubes ZTR Crest white 29er
    - 64 х Spokes:Sapim D-Light 2.0/1.65 Black
    - 64 х Nipples:Alu Red
    I bought from actionsport - 432,35 EUR = 552.7 USD

    Fork
    Rock Shox Sid XX DA 2012 white 29" - XLoc diff. models
    I bought from actionsport - 520,92 EUR = 665.9 USD

    Other from chainreactioncycles
    FSA FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered Steerer - 1.5" / 1-1/8" - Black $101.04
    Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012 - Pair - Black $12.98
    3T ARX Team Stem - White - 100mm / 6 Deg $96.23
    3T Xida Team Carbon Flat Bars 31.8mm 640mm White $113.31
    Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012 - White - Vanox Rails $98.98
    NoTubes Stan's Rim Tape - 10Yds x 21mm $16.48
    NoTubes Stan's Universal Valve Stem MTB 2012 - Universal - 35mm - Pair For MTB $17.85
    2 х Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre - 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi $39.86
    Shimano BB71 MTB Press Fit Bottom Bracket $33.31
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 100mm Front Synthetic Lever $27.49
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 135mm Rear Synthetic Lever $27.49
    Summ = 624,88 USD

    And 3T Doric Team Carbon Seatpost-27.2mm/350mm/white i bought from twohubs - 139.00 USD, because can not find it in any other shops.

    Amount 3300 USD for a dream bike

    I assembled myself all. Only BB and headset adjust master in bike shop.


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    What should be the next upgrade to my 2012 Cobia? I have Wellgo MG-1pedals, Argon GP1 grips, and WTB rocket V SLT seat installed.
    Handle bar next?

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    ^Maybe tubeless, it's going to be my next move, shaves some rolling weight and you can run lower tire pressure

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    2013 Marlin 17.5 - straight from showroom, new pedals added later.

    32.5 lb.

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    yes the wheels are a good place to start but the stock (bonti SSR/Shimano 5025) 29er wheels on my 2011 xcal only weigh 2100gms ur lucky to save 1lb so theres another 5lbs to drop to get down low and its takes some work i just did this to my rig see if you can spot all the upgrades .. gotta run will list them all if ur interested later
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris5107 View Post
    I did not tear it down to the bare frame and my accurate scale only goes up to 2000g.

    My guess is that the frame is not too heavy based on anecdotal comparisons to my old 4900 26er frame.
    hey guys .. im thinking that my 2011 xcal is a heavy frame and i beleive there the same.. i think its the type of aluminum 6061.. year before (2010) was better frame. Ive done so much to mine and it still sits above 25lbs .. everything on these bikes are light

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    yes the wheels are a good place to start but the stock (bonti SSR/Shimano 5025) 29er wheels on my 2011 xcal only weigh 2100gms ur lucky to save 1lb so theres another 5lbs to drop to get down low and its takes some work i just did this to my rig see if you can spot all the upgrades .. gotta run will list them all if ur interested later
    I see one. The USE seatpost. I have one in the exact same color.
    Mongoose Summit Pro
    Gary Fisher Tassajara
    Motobecane Fantom Trail DS
    Trek 2011 X-Caliber

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    Quote Originally Posted by hangdogdaddy38 View Post
    I see one. The USE seatpost. I have one in the exact same color.
    haha yup! its sick the seat mount takes time to get used to but its solid... doesnt allow any creaking at least not on mine..

    heres what i've done:
    USE seat post (super light)
    Rubar emir 250gm seat (this thing is the best seat ive had! last one was selle italia flight)
    XO brakes (awsome)
    bigger back rotor/different front rotor
    SL-K carbon strait bar
    Control tech 80mm carbon stem
    Control tech carbon seatpost clamp
    Brev spacers and KCNC top cap
    Crank brothers foam dual lock grips/different bar end caps
    Blue aluminum rotor bolts
    Sram PC 1091R chain
    Frequency i23 29ers, with dt comps, blue nipples, and blue Hope Pro Evo 2 hubs
    (these things fly wow what a difference in how smooth the hubs are compared to the stock Shimano 5025 hubs there like spining a coffee grinder)( i only saved 145gms on the wheelset the stock xcal wheelset is light!!! but not stiff or smooth if you want lighter go with the i19s)

    I have blue KCNC jockey wheels, blue chainring bolts, blue racelight skewers, and blue cable clips all on route in the mail once its all in I'll post some good pics

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    Hey man thats a light aluminum hartail ... i have a 2011 xcall i got pics and a list of what i did in this thread... i can't figure out how yours is so much lighter then mine (26.5) it has to be the frame .. i cant find the weight for my frame anywhere I know my pedals and crank will lighten it and i could have lost an extra 250gms in my wheel build .. but it still wont come near the 22lbs you have.. i would be real happy with something closer to that... do you see anything im missing? thanks man

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    2012 Cobia weighs in at a gross gross weight of 30.2 lbs.

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    Pedals: Spank Spike
    Tires: WTB Bronson F/R WTB Stout
    Grips: Ergo

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    Hey man thats a light aluminum hartail ... i have a 2011 xcall i got pics and a list of what i did in this thread... i can't figure out how yours is so much lighter then mine (26.5) it has to be the frame .. i cant find the weight for my frame anywhere I know my pedals and crank will lighten it and i could have lost an extra 250gms in my wheel build .. but it still wont come near the 22lbs you have.. i would be real happy with something closer to that... do you see anything im missing? thanks man
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    my frame (17.5) is propably close to yours and my wheelset is 300gms heavier.. i have lots of really light stuff so it must be my crankset and the entire drivetrain (shifters derailers cassett and BB), tubless, ... my shock, is the reba RL but it came on the bike so not sure if its heavier OEM it says online that its 1575gms thats not heavy for a 100mm shock is it? .. its just that i crunched all the numbers and thats still 4.5lbs to lose with drivetrain and going tubless and when i add up all the listed weights it only comes to 2 lbs in weight loss if i upgrade all that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    my frame (17.5) is propably close to yours and my wheelset is 300gms heavier.. i have lots of really light stuff so it must be my crankset and the entire drivetrain (shifters derailers cassett and BB), tubless, ... my shock, is the reba RL but it came on the bike so not sure if its heavier OEM it says online that its 1575gms thats not heavy for a 100mm shock is it? .. its just that i crunched all the numbers and thats still 4.5lbs to lose with drivetrain and going tubless and when i add up all the listed weights it only comes to 2 lbs in weight loss if i upgrade all that..
    just looked your fork is 200gms lighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    ya so i looked it all up my frames is smaller but pro weighs the same, my seatpost,seat,bars, and stem are all lighter then yours or closer to the same,my brakes are XO so the same and i have 180 rotors front and back, my wheelset is +300gms and fork +200gms my new pedals are 225gms

    so maybe the weight is drivetrain and headset was ur new headset alot lighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    Size L, is that 19" or 21"?

    That is light! And mine's 17.5". I am not regretting not springing for carbon anymore

    Does anyone have an idea what a Superfly carbon hardtail frame would weigh? What about the new SL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    Size L, is that 19" or 21"?

    That is light! And mine's 17.5". I am not regretting springing for carbon anymore

    Does anyone have an idea what a Superfly carbon hardtail frame would weigh? What about the new SL?
    17.5 carbon frames come in around 1100gms-1300gms theres a chinese 17.5 carbon that weighs 1256gms some are even lower

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    2012 19" X-Caliber
    stock with wellgo m3 pedals
    Weight: 28lbs even

    Stans ZTR Arch Ex wheelset
    Maxxis Icon 29x2.2
    Elite Sior Race Water Bottle Cage
    Crank Bros Eggbeater 1's
    Stock bars cut down 20mm

    Final weight: 25.79lbs

    Contemplating going w/ an MRP 1x chain guide. Dropped almost 0.75lbs on my last bike doing this and never need the big ring or granny ring in my area.

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    '12 Trek Wahoo 17.5 (Same frame as mamba/marlin/cobia/xcal)

    27.8 lbs

    Crankbrothers cobalt 3 flat bar
    Thomson Elite X4 stem
    Maxxis Ignitor 2.1 Tires
    Mavic TN317 Rims
    XT Hubs
    XT Crankset and BB
    Avid BB5 brakes
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Serfas Stinger saddle
    HG50 Cassette
    Alivio Rear Derailleur
    RS Recon silver tk solo air (none g2)
    VP flats
    Took off front derailleur/shifter and converted to 1x9

    ....the stock suntour fork and cranks are scarily heavy

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    Almost done my build just did... x9 shifters, x9 rear derailer, x9 2x10 front derailer, and x9 2x10 crankset .. I've now upgraded everything even cable clips ...all thats left is ashima airotors (blue or white,will save 70gms), next summer eggbeaters and tubless ..
    heres my list:
    Frequency I23s, blue nips, on Hope Pro 2 evos blue, blue valve stem cap
    TI QRs
    SL-K carbon strait bar
    Controltech carbon stem (80mm)
    My base spacer is top of BigMonster headset (the rest wouldnt fit),Brev spacers, KCNC cap
    XO brakes
    X9 2x10 shifters (blue cables)
    Blue cable clips
    Emir Rubar super light seat (awsome)
    USE cyclops seat post (one of the lightest)
    Controltech carbon seatpost clamp
    X9 2x10 front derailer
    X9 2x10 crankset
    X9 rear derailer
    KCNC blue jocky wheels (not in picture)
    Sram PC1091R chain
    Shimano M525 pedals
    in the mail blue chainring bolts (not sure if they will fit 2x10 crankset?) blue waterbottle bolts
    Weight = 25lbs
    this was alot of fun now I think ill have some fun on it till I upgrade to carbon frame at the end of winter unless the world ends haha then ill go out happy knowing I finished this thing at least haha

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    I'm so glad I found this thread. Inspires me that a lot of people are dumping money onto these frames. I have a 2012 Trek Mamba and was contemplating if I should just save up my money and upgrade in the near future to a more XC racebike HT or ST but after hearing all this, I am changing my mind. I would love to shed some weight and it will make the wife happy that I kept the bike since she bought it for me as a anniversary gift. Yea, I know in the long run it will probably be more cost efficient to save up and just buy a new bike but I would rather have a bike that is unique and built by me with all the parts I want on it. Just ordered some stuff and waiting for everything to fall in place.

    Is it possible to also put some pricing on how much you spent on upgrades? Just curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    I'm so glad I found this thread. Inspires me that a lot of people are dumping money onto these frames. I have a 2012 Trek Mamba and was contemplating if I should just save up my money and upgrade in the near future to a more XC racebike HT or ST but after hearing all this, I am changing my mind. I would love to shed some weight and it will make the wife happy that I kept the bike since she bought it for me as a anniversary gift. Yea, I know in the long run it will probably be more cost efficient to save up and just buy a new bike but I would rather have a bike that is unique and built by me with all the parts I want on it. Just ordered some stuff and waiting for everything to fall in place.

    Is it possible to also put some pricing on how much you spent on upgrades? Just curious...
    Upgrading is a good choice, especially since your bike carries such sentimental value. The very idea that you "built" your own bike also makes a huge difference compared to buying something off shelf. =)

    My bike was only $500. I spent ~$1600 on upgraded parts, not counting the tools. It's probably a couple hundred dollars cheaper to just buy a better equiped bike, but this is a very unique experience for me and I think it is well worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    I'm so glad I found this thread. Inspires me that a lot of people are dumping money onto these frames. I have a 2012 Trek Mamba and was contemplating if I should just save up my money and upgrade in the near future to a more XC racebike HT or ST but after hearing all this, I am changing my mind. I would love to shed some weight and it will make the wife happy that I kept the bike since she bought it for me as a anniversary gift. Yea, I know in the long run it will probably be more cost efficient to save up and just buy a new bike but I would rather have a bike that is unique and built by me with all the parts I want on it. Just ordered some stuff and waiting for everything to fall in place.

    Is it possible to also put some pricing on how much you spent on upgrades? Just curious...
    In Canadian dollars, I've spent $700 on the 2012 Marlin, and about $1000 for all the 2012/13 Shimano XT component group. In this case, I "feel" that this upgrade process was more cost effective than saving and "buying a better bike". I don't think you can find a big-box HT 29'er with a full XT group for under $2000. Sure those already-packaged XT bikes have better forks and wheels, but most people upgrade those as well right away.

    The process of stripping my bike down to the frame, and re-building it with the new group was also great fun, and informative for me on how these bikes work. Which will save my $$$ from having to take it to the shop for minor adjustments/repairs from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wynnbb View Post
    Upgrading is a good choice, especially since your bike carries such sentimental value. The very idea that you "built" your own bike also makes a huge difference compared to buying something off shelf. =)

    My bike was only $500. I spent ~$1600 on upgraded parts, not counting the tools. It's probably a couple hundred dollars cheaper to just buy a better bike, but this is a very unique experience for me and I think it is well worth it.
    I agree it is fun but not cost effective .. i got this off the lbs owners son barley used at just above half price so it was worth it especialy getting most stuff at chain reaction cycles . com they have awesome deals and free super fast delivery over $100 spent... it was alot of fun! and i feel good having completed it and ya looks sick but even though i could have gone with a few lighter things these frames are real heavy!! for the money i spent between 1700-2500 (would have to really look through all the reciepts) i should have a lighter bike.. i will be looking for carbon superfly frame same year and colour sceme so it will end up working out in the end .. the other thing that is good sticking with trek is the G2 geo. so much better with a longer bike

    If ur not married to ur bike i would sell it and for example theres a specialized for $1900 that weighs 24-26lbs to start think its the stump jumper comp .. i just don't like the looks!

    you can also have fun build it and then get A chinese carbon and throw all your new parts on that then rebuild your old frame with original parts and sell it ... thats my other option im looking at... good point to think of you dont lose the value of your old stuff cause you could even by the chinese carbon frame for 400 and throw all ur stock stuff on then sell that to recoup some cash if you really liked your bike .. haha

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    2012 Marlin. Picked up the frame at a great price and decided to build it up.

    X-Fusion Slide29 fork
    2x10 XT Crank/cassette
    XT Front/Rear Drls.
    Avid BB7 brakes
    WTB Speeddisk rims / Deore hubs
    WTB Nano tires
    Thompson Elite post
    WTB Rocket V saddle
    Bontrager stem/bars.
    Old as hell beat up crankbros pedals

    As it sits now it's right around 28lbs. Goal is to bring it to 24 eventually. Did this as budget as I could and plan on riding the hell out of it so didn't need anything race only... yet Plan on changing out the stem/bars/grips to something lighter and picking up a lighter saddle as well. Down the line I might get a lighter wheelset but for now this works alright.


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    [QUOTE=Mr Cup;9823504]2012 Marlin. Picked up the frame at a great price and decided to build it up.

    X-Fusion Slide29 fork
    2x10 XT Crank/cassette
    XT Front/Rear Drls.
    Avid BB7 brakes
    WTB Speeddisk rims / Deore hubs
    WTB Nano tires
    Thompson Elite post
    WTB Rocket V saddle
    Bontrager stem/bars.
    Old as hell beat up crankbros pedals

    As it sits now it's right around 28lbs. Goal is to bring it to 24 eventually. Did this as budget as I could and plan on riding the hell out of it so didn't need anything race only... yet Plan on changing out the stem/bars/grips to something lighter and picking up a lighter saddle as well. Down the line I might get a lighter wheelset but for now this works alright.

    how is the WTB Rocket V Saddle? I am looking into purchasing one but wanted to get your insight.

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    The Rocket V is quite a bit more narrow than other saddles I've tried and I've only used it for a little general riding and one 24 mile race on some really rooty singletrack. For me, I don't think it's going to stay on the bike. I'm 5'11 190lbs and It's just not the right shape/size for extended comfort for me. I like to ride for several hours when I go ride and I'm still trying to find the right saddle that's not overly heavy. I'm going to give the Rocket V a little bit though and see how it rides over a little while if there is any break-in / etc. I know a few people that absolutely love them right out of the box though.

    Love my Brooks B-17 and actually use it on longer (30+ mile) rides but need something lighter for a race bike.

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    anyone knows how much a Marlin frame weigh?particularly a 19. thanks!

    a built,almost stock (diff pedals,grips,seatclamp and tubes) weighed in around 33 pounds and after replacing parts, managed to pull it down to a lil less than 30 pounds after replacing the handlebar (la bici),stem (stylo),saddle (selle italia),drivetrain to 1X9 (XO grippies,X9 RD,XT cassette,Stylo SS cranks with ceramic BB,pc991 chain,exustar pedals).

    should be down to sub 25 if i replace the anchor fork (which is around 6 pounds from what i read) to a rigid one or around 27-28 with a sussy fork. lighter tubeless wheelsets should shave off 2 pounds at least off of it. also a lighter seatpost would be nice too.
    i hate biking!

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    2011 Trek Mamba (17.5")
    Selle San Marco US Postal Saddle (pretty dope, lol)
    Niner Carbon Fork (dropped 4 lbs! over stock Tora)
    Niner Aluminum Stem
    Niner Aluminum Handlebars
    Niner Seat Clamp (not pictured)
    Shimano XT brakes
    Continental Race Kings
    Ergon GA1 Evo grips
    1x8 Setup with MRP Chain Guide

    Stock build set-up came in around 32 lbs. She's now down to 25.7 lbs and you can definitely feel the difference. Yet another Gator themed build. Go Gators!

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    My Trek Mamba

    Just upgraded a few things recently. She stands at 28.1 pounds per bike shop.

    2012 Trek Mamba
    - SLX Crankset 3x9
    - SLX Front/Rear Derails
    - Deore Shifters
    - Stan's Arch EX 29er with XT Casette and SLX Rotors
    - Maxxis Ignitor 2.1
    - XT Pedals
    - RaceFace Evolve XC Stem/Handlebars
    - RaceFace grips


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    Here's my 2012 17.5" Cobia
    AC70 Bars
    ODI Grips
    Hayes Prime Expert Brakes
    Alligator Wavy Rotors (180/203)
    X9 Crank and BB
    Hutchinson Cobra Tires

    Weighed in at 28.2 pounds according to the bathroom scale.


    Shimano M-780 XT pedals are on their way.

    I have Manitou Tower Pro 15TA forks on order and a new set of Flows on Chris Kings shortly after that.

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    19" Mamba

    120mm Manitou fork, 90mm stem, Sun Ringle wheels, 2.25 NN tubeless, Wellgo magnesium platforms, 700mm Truvativ bar, ditched the big ring and did a 36T w/BBG bash guard.

    28lbs 7oz. With a light seatpost, XT brakes and XT casette I'll break 27lbs and be done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    Just upgraded a few things recently. She stands at 28.1 pounds per bike shop.

    2012 Trek Mamba
    - SLX Crankset 3x9
    - SLX Front/Rear Derails
    - Deore Shifters
    - Stan's Arch EX 29er with XT Casette and SLX Rotors
    - Maxxis Ignitor 2.1
    - XT Pedals
    - RaceFace Evolve XC Stem/Handlebars
    - RaceFace grips

    Just got a Reba SL Fork. dropped weight to 27 pounds... 1 more pound and i am done. Waiting to get all my tubes out of the way and then going tubeless. LOL, I got 4 pairs left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    Waiting to get all my tubes out of the way and then going tubeless. LOL, I got 4 pairs left.
    Is Stan's yellowtape already on your new wheelset? If so just use the tubes for chainstay protectors.

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    Still waiting on my wheelset to be built (Hopefully by the end of the week)

    Here is a list of old vs new weights of my new goodies. (New wheel weights are estimates for now)








    Next to be replaced will be the rear derailleur, Seatpost, Saddle and Stem. My goal is ~25lbs.

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    Swapping on XT brakes (for performamce not weight!) and to an X0 cassette I dropped to 28.3lbs.

    I'm adding a 6oz lighter saddle and a new seat post soon. With that its easily into the 27lb range and its done.

    Not bad for a 120mm 19" HT

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    I have a 2012 Cobia. Looking to upgrade wheels but unsure what exactly would be a good upgrade when compared to the stock wheels. Would a set of wheels in e $250 range be considered better?


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    Down to 26.4lbs. I'll be setting up tubeless next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Cup View Post
    2012 Marlin. Picked up the frame at a great price and decided to build it up.

    X-Fusion Slide29 fork
    How's the x-fusion slide? I've got a 2012 marlin SS and I'm thinking about replacing the sr suntour w/ the slide 29 with remote lockout.

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    2013 X-Cal 17.5", reflectors removed, no pedals: 27.2 lbs.

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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    2012 trek marlin 17.5 single speed

    -FSA xc 180 bars
    -Origin 8 pro UNO saddle
    -ODI rogue grips
    -Dirty dog reaper stem (Heavy!)
    -Avid Elixir 1 taperbore brakes (oem off 2013 Carve $35 on eBay)
    28.1 lbs.
    *just ordered*
    -Raceface Next SL carbon bars
    -WTB Lasdisc trail wheelset
    -Kenda negeval 29x2.35 tires
    I'm also looking for a fork probably x-fusion slide or Reba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamar83 View Post
    How's the x-fusion slide? I've got a 2012 marlin SS and I'm thinking about replacing the sr suntour w/ the slide 29 with remote lockout.
    Couldn't be happier with the Slide 29. I was enjoying it on the local singletrack but what really made me happy was how well it handled bombing down some of the unmaintained fire roads up in the mountains a few weeks ago. The weight difference between a stock fork and any decent fork is going to be substantial and this fork is definitely light.

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    Digging up an old thread. I finally got my 17.5" Cobia down to the bare frame. It weighs in at 1935g.

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    Cool -- good to know.

    FWIW Trek told me the Superfly AL "platinum"-series frame was about a half-pound lighter.

    At any rate, this just goes to show that the frame is not a major contributor to overall weight. I rode a Superfly SL Pro at a Trek demo. It felt insanely light. The rep said the frame was 8-hundred-something grams. But I'll bet the bulk of the weight savings was in the wheels and other components.

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    I was pleasantly surprised at the weight.

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    Got my 19" Mamba to 27.8lbs. Pictured hung with a strap that weighs 2oz.

    120mm Tower Pro fork, 180mm front rotor w/XT brakes, Truvativ cockpit- T30 stem, 700mm bars, and seatpost. XO casette, Sun Ringle wheels, 2.25 Nobby Nic, 2.2 Ardent, SLX cranks, SLX mid cage RD, setup 2x9 with a BBG bash guard. This thing flies downhill with a HTA around 68.6 degrees. May try an angled headset later.


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    Anyone know what the factory 2013 19" Mamba is? I started the build up
    XT cranks 2-10 40/28
    XT chain
    XT front mech
    XT rear mech
    XT cassett 1-10 11/36
    XT pedals (inbound)
    XT 2-10 shifters
    Thomson post
    Thomson clamp
    Thomson carbon flat xc bar (inbound)
    Thomson x4 stem 100mm 10deg rise
    Selli Gl Flow Carbon Seat
    WTB Clamp Grips
    Manitou Tower Pro (Inbound)
    Hope pro evo 2 hubs (inbound)
    Hope skewers (inbound)
    spokes DT Swiss w/brass niples (inbound)
    WTS I23 Frequency wheels (inbound) W/stans valves and tape
    Conti X Kings 2.2 Protect Black Chili

    I'm hoping I can get this below 28.5.
    I been using a spread sheet to keep track of the weights as part came off and on. I forgot to weigh the bike prior to starting. I wasn't going to worry but once I started weighing things it was cool and now is a addition. I have been riding for 20 years and have never weighed parts but ts fun to do.....

    My old Stumpy, Shock is wasted that's how I ended up with the Mamba.




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    Don't recall exactly. It was approx 30.5lbs no pedals for a 19"

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    Well Just installed the
    Tower Pro
    2238g RockShox XC32 w/coil spring
    1718g Tower Pro after I cut the steer tube & installed lower race
    That's 1.14 lbs

    Thomson Carbon Bars are just plain awesome.

    Wheels should be in today. When replacing the fork found the headset seal was torn from incorrect install or adjustment. When I test rode it the HS was popping as if out of adjustment, They rolled it in and re-adjusted it but I think the seal was broke at that point. I'm thinking, a hope or king HS in in the future.







    Wheelset installed.
    Published weight 31.0
    Actual after upgrades w/pump & cyclometer 26.2
    I have a Hope HS, Skewers, and XT pedals still inbound
    Never owned a set of hopes always ran XT hubs, wow I like the noise as well. In TX we have a lot of Hike/Bike trails and it will let em know I'm coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jroberts1968 View Post
    Well Just installed the
    Tower Pro
    2238g RockShox XC32 w/coil spring
    1718g Tower Pro after I cut the steer tube & installed lower race
    That's 1.14 lbs

    Thomson Carbon Bars are just plain awesome.

    Wheels should be in today. When replacing the fork found the headset seal was torn from incorrect install or adjustment. When I test rode it the HS was popping as if out of adjustment, They rolled it in and re-adjusted it but I think the seal was broke at that point. I'm thinking, a hope or king HS in in the future.







    Wheelset installed.
    Published weight 31.0
    Actual after upgrades w/pump & cyclometer 26.2
    I have a Hope HS, Skewers, and XT pedals still inbound
    Never owned a set of hopes always ran XT hubs, wow I like the noise as well. In TX we have a lot of Hike/Bike trails and it will let em know I'm coming!
    I ended up installing 785 XT disc brakes Set w/Ice Tech Rotors, King Inset 1 headset.

    25.7 lb the bike is really great climbs and descends awesome.


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    Re: How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    Last I weighed my Marlin it was 28-29 lbs. That was before new wheels or conversion to 2x10. Guessing around 27.5 now without accessories installed.




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    Slx 2x10 fd,rd and '13 slx 2/3x10 shifters
    Ashimu Airotors 180mm
    Alex dp20 XC wheelset with Slx hubs
    Kenda karma tires.
    Raceface chainrings.
    Jagwire cables/housings

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    Great setups everyone!. Once drivetrain is done, thinking of going 2x10 and tubeless. Any recommendations on tires? Looking at the Crossmark UST's

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    My 2013 Wahoo.. Size large 19..
    Built with Fox f29 100mm
    M970 XTR cranks
    M970 XTR front mech (fitted after pic was taken)
    XO rear mech
    XTR 970 11-34 cassette
    XO shifters
    XTR chain
    Hope mono mini brakes with floating 180-160 rotors and braided hoses
    Hope pro2 evo SP on crest rims
    Bontrager 29-3 front tyre, Rocket Ron rear, tubeless
    Superstar headset
    Salsa seatclamp
    USE Sumo carbon seatpost
    Answer protaper AM carbon bars
    FSA OS 190 carbon faceplate 90mm stem
    ODI Yeti lock on grips
    SDG Belair ti saddle
    Time Atac carbon pedals

    It rides lovely and weighs 24.3 lbs with pedals..

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    First upgrade on 2013 Mamba?

    Along the lines of this thread, I just got a 2013 Trek Mamba. I eventually wanna upgrade the fork to handle bigger drops/jumps and soak up bumpy terrain at speed. Any recommendations? ..I need to buy a fork that has been specifically designed for G2 geometry right? E.g. upgrade to the same fork that is used on the X-Cal? Or are there better options for more or less money? ...or would tubeless tires/rims be a better first investment? I'm currently allllll stock except for pedals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntrager View Post
    Along the lines of this thread, I just got a 2013 Trek Mamba. I eventually wanna upgrade the fork to handle bigger drops/jumps and soak up bumpy terrain at speed. Any recommendations? ..I need to buy a fork that has been specifically designed for G2 geometry right? E.g. upgrade to the same fork that is used on the X-Cal? Or are there better options for more or less money? ...or would tubeless tires/rims be a better first investment? I'm currently allllll stock except for pedals...
    The truth is, I've only been able to find The rock Shox Revelation as a possible fit on the bike. The issue that we are going to have those of us who own a trek mamba Cobia x-cal or wahoo is that all of those frames have the exact same geometry So, finding a solution for that is going to be difficult when you try to replace the front fork. Remember, we bought cross country bikes that are not designed or built for all mountain or other trail riding. So, if we start adding all mountain or trail components onto our bike we may in-depth getting better performance that were looking for but it's certainly not going to be ideal unless we go all out and replace our cross country bikes for an all mountain ride, just my $ 0.02
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChewynMe View Post
    The truth is, I've only been able to find The rock Shox Revelation as a possible fit on the bike. The issue that we are going to have those of us who own a trek mamba Cobia x-cal or wahoo is that all of those frames have the exact same geometry So, finding a solution for that is going to be difficult when you try to replace the front fork. Remember, we bought cross country bikes that are not designed or built for all mountain or other trail riding. So, if we start adding all mountain or trail components onto our bike we may in-depth getting better performance that were looking for but it's certainly not going to be ideal unless we go all out and replace our cross country bikes for an all mountain ride, just my $ 0.02
    Thanks for the input, I was thinking a Recon Silver or Gold might also fit, but for those, I doubt I'd notice enough difference to justify droppin that much cash anyways. ...Ah yes, the curse of the cross country mountain bikes haha. The best offerings for under $1000, yet the bikes have their limitations. I say, break the curse! I will ride my bike all over every mountain until it breaks or I do. All in the meanwhile still riding XC to get in shape and have fun.

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    17.5 Superfly AL Elite (Without the pedals and 2 bottle cages it weighs 25 lbs exactly.)

    But becaue of the way it rides it feels lighter to me!!

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    Good pic. I didn't like the white paintjob at first, but it grows on you.

    Did you replace the fork? My stanchions are white too. Different grips too?

    They aren't the lightest bikes around. Mine was 26.6 with pedals and computer, after I removed the reflectors and shortened the handlebars and seatpost. I went 2x10 with RaceFace rings and replaced that massive cassette with an XT, so am close to 25 now. Went tubeless also. But you're right, the way it handles makes it feel a lot lighter than it is. Very little flex.

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    I gotta put some work in on my 2013 Mamba this winter, after riding my 2012 Fuel ex8 she feels like a boat anchor. Thinking Stans Arch rims, SLX crank, SLX brakes, lighter bars and possibly a Tower Pro.

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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1374954611.067344.jpg swapped out my fork for a rigid Salsa one ad added a longer stem and Maid bars for a trip coming up. As it sits here with a full seat bag it was a little over 26lbs. My wheelset and tires are a place I could save a lot of weight but they've been solid and reliable when I'm far from any services. Rigid fork and Maid bars definitely gave the bike a much more comfortable riding position.

    I'll be swapping the heavy Bronson's for some 700x35 tires for the route. Trying to keep the bike plus all my gear loaded up to as close to 35lbs as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Cup View Post
    Couldn't be happier with the Slide 29. I was enjoying it on the local singletrack but what really made me happy was how well it handled bombing down some of the unmaintained fire roads up in the mountains a few weeks ago. The weight difference between a stock fork and any decent fork is going to be substantial and this fork is definitely light.
    I've replaced the stock fork on my marlin to a Manitou MAtch29 Absolute plus and love it. Although being in BC really puts a fork through its paces. I rode the suntour for about 7 months and it was finally getting quite plush surprisingly enough( yeah i know not a possible thing for suntour but it was getting there), but now riding the Manitou on rolling some sizeable drops (1-1 1/2 feet)and constant one after the other, the fork performs very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntrager View Post
    Along the lines of this thread, I just got a 2013 Trek Mamba. I eventually wanna upgrade the fork to handle bigger drops/jumps and soak up bumpy terrain at speed. Any recommendations? ..I need to buy a fork that has been specifically designed for G2 geometry right? E.g. upgrade to the same fork that is used on the X-Cal? Or are there better options for more or less money? ...or would tubeless tires/rims be a better first investment? I'm currently allllll stock except for pedals...
    You can search for G2 forks on Ebay. I replaced mine with just a Manitou MAtch 29 Absolute+ and it isn't G2. G2 is great, yes it makes the opffset easier to roll out drops but if you are a decent rider you should be able to roll out most drops.

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    The fork is one of the best investments for the ride and weight savings. I dropped 1 1/2 pounds by just replacing the fork. I put a fox float on my 12 cobia. Got lucky because it had the G2 offset. I believe the manitou has the closest offset to G2.

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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    Anybody know if the Bontrager switchblade is g2 geo?


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