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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    Hello everyone,

    I've recently purchased a 2012 Trek Marlin, and I'm under the impression that the other bikes in this "29er Sport" (Wahoo, Marlin, Mamba) and 29er Race (Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon) series are exactly the same frame, with upgraded Fork, drivetrain/brakes, wheels, etc. based on their respective MSRP.

    What I want to know is how much does your bike weigh?
    What model and size frame?
    What parts did you upgrade to achieve this weight?
    Any recommendations on upgrade path?



    Thanks for all your input, I'm excited to upgrade as my skillset improves, and eventually end up with a kick-ass aluminum hard-tail

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    you are partially correct in thinking the 29er HT family using the same frame. the only exception of the paragon frame being different than that of the rest. the paragon uses press fit BB instead of the standard 73mm threaded type and also has a tapered head tube.

    i too own a marlin 19" but mine is a 2011. i have not weighed the bike stock but i have weighed it with my bathroom scale (weigh myself first, then weigh myself hold bike, subtract my weight = bike weight). i have done a couple of upgrades before the weigh in.

    mine so far has the following mods:
    easton ea50 30mm riser bar
    truvativ hussefelt 40mm stem
    sette s lock on grips
    speed dial 7 levers
    bb7 brakes w.185mm rotors f/r
    panaracer rampage 2.35 front tire/ tioga psycho genius 2.25 rear (slime tubes f/r) -- soon to be tubeless
    shimano slx double crankset
    wellgo mg52 platform pedals
    hurricane mini pump

    with these mods my bike weighed in at ~30lbs (all reflectors removed)

    i have in my possession these components awaiting my stan's wheelset so they can be installed.

    2010 fox f29 fit rlc100 15qr
    salsa 32t chainring, sram x9 9spd shifter, x9 rd, mrp 1x chain guide, pg990 cassette (1x9 convert)
    cane creek 40 series zs headset

    looking to change out the saddle and seatpost too...

    i know ive overbuilt this bike but i really like the frame's geo and i like to mod!

    i think the best path for entry level upgrade is better brakes, mid level fork, better crankset should be more than adequate in reducing weight and upping performance.

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    In the pic (bike is sold now) the bike weighed in at 22lbs. Only thing left from stock bike was the Frame, Fork and RD.

    Shimano XT M775 brakes
    Gatorbrake Aries rotors
    Bonty RL seat
    Thomson elite post
    Easton Monkeylite SL
    ESI Chunky grips
    MRP x1 BB mount
    Shimano XT M760
    Shimano XT 11/34 Cassette
    Sram X.7 shifters
    2 Racing Ralphs.. 2.4 (FR) 2.25 (R).
    Wheelset is Velocity VXC on Halo 6 hubs
    Salsa Skewers

    Think thats it =)

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    My 2011 Paragon 19" frame with only ergon grips and pedals (shimano 820?) is right around 26.5 pounds on the bikeshop scale.
    If I recall from previous searches on this site the 2011 x-cal is right arouns 27.5 to 28 with pedals.

    Biggest recomendation for weight loss is wheels and tires. Stock tires can be 700 to 800 grams each. A set of 600gr. tires save almost a pound. Farily easy to drop another pound on the wheels.

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    So I weighed my bike using the digital bathroom scale method, so my info is:

    32.2lbs
    2012 Marlin, 15.5" (small)
    Only upgrades so far are 2012 XT pedals (trail) and a Planet Bike gel seat. I think both maybe even added weight

    I think my next upgrades are going to be a Bontrager RXL/RXXXL stem and handlebar to get the cockpit right.

    Then for next summer I think I'm going to do a full 2012 XT group set. Probably do wheels/tires around the same time too, but so far I'm uneducated on wheelsets and don't know what will suit me and the terrain here.

    I'm interested on how other people have built up their G2 hardtails, I'd appreciate if you posted.

    Thanks and Regards.

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    2011 Paragon - 17.5" frame - 25.0lbs on my friends scale.

    Although listed with Bontrager tires, mine (and other peoples I've seen) came with Schwalbe Rocket Rons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qa_bugfinder View Post
    My 2011 Paragon 19" frame with only ergon grips and pedals (shimano 820?) is right around 26.5 pounds on the bikeshop scale.
    If I recall from previous searches on this site the 2011 x-cal is right arouns 27.5 to 28 with pedals.
    You are right on, my 2011 21" X-Cal weighs 28lbs with XT pedals and TLR Nobby Nic tires (with tubes for now).

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    2012 Trek Marlin 29er-100% Stock, no upgrades.

    19'' Frame-36lbs Bathroom Scale confirmed with full waterbottle.

    What I plan to upgrade:

    1. The Tektro brakes are total ass.
    2. The stock fork is equally useless. I really thought that at this stage in my life (31,kids,etc) I would be doing light trails and mainly sticking to pavement. Well, I basically push the limits everytime I ride and pretty much expect to seriously F something up sooner or later. So when that happens, I'll buy a new fork and some additional life insurance.
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    2011 19" paragon

    easton ec70 wide bars
    odi lock on grips
    rxl cage
    shimano 540 pedals
    thomson masterpiece post
    crest wheel set with ck hubs
    RoRo

    just under 25#
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    2011 Paragon - 19" frame - 26.5# - stock

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    cobia is 13.8kg

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    Got my 2011 19" Mamba down to 24.60lbs with pedals, water bottle cage, cateye and sensors. It weighed 31lbs stock. I dropped 7lbs with the following mods: Stans Crest Wheels, racing ralph tires, thomson seatpost and stem, truvativ bars, x0 brakes, 2x10 x9 groupset- frnt der, rear der, crank, shifters, etc. fizik tundra seat, crank brother candy pedals, fox g2 rlc100 front fork.

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    2011 Trek Marlin 29er 17.5" frame with my old bar ends = 14.65 kg ~ 32 lbs 4 oz.

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    29.0 pounds on the nose (bathroom scale, I get on and then get on with the bike)
    2011 X-Caliber 21 inch frame
    Odyssey trail mix pedals, Sunline twisted waffle lock on grips, Garmin handlebar mount as weighed otherwise it is as it came from the factory.

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    2011 x-cal 17.5 inch frame

    Digital bathroom scale

    Stock with some old shimano spd platform pedals = 27lbs

    Upgraded parts
    Egg beater sl pedals
    Lizard skins lock on grips
    Easton Ec90 carbon low rise bars
    Easton Ec90 stem
    SDG Fly seat
    SDG carbon I beam seat post

    Currently weighs in at just under 26lbs

    Wheels will probally be next

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    @HighLife420

    Beautiful bike, I'm jealous
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    2011 marlin XL...30lbs deore ext bb crankset deore front deraileur captin tires diamond back pedals

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    Just picked up a 2012 Trek Mamba 19' today. Its my first 29r. I came off a Giant Trance to this cause I wanted to see what the 29rs are all about! I wieghed it stock and its 31lbs....


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    My 2012 Marlin 15.5 weighs 35 lbs.
    Added gel seat, Bontrager flat kit, Cat eyes computer and wider pedals.
    I really need to get the weight down, she is fat and the brakes and fork is ****. I cant lock the rear and wipped out twice already.

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    Whats lighter brakes are you guys upgrading to?

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    I'm about three weeks into a squealing 2012 Trek Marlin 29er (purchased for under 600) and thinking of returning/selling it for something else. I can get my hands on a 12Y Trek Mamba for about $750 and a 12Y Cobia for $950. Also, I could probably use those prices to bargain down a selection from another manufacturer.

    A Talon 29er 0, a Felt Sport, a Cannondale 29er SL3 are a few that come to mind… all retail at roughly the same point as the Cobia and I could probably get them for 20% less.

    So if you had your choice of any mtb in the 1200 range that you could buy for 950, one for which you could easily get service and support, which would you buy and why?

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    The biggest upgrade that will also save weight and improve performance will be the fork and then the wheelset.

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    2011 Trek Cobia 21 inch

    From the bathroom scale method, the bike started out at 29.5 Lb. I used an accurate scale to weigh each piece that I upgraded to get an accurate change in weight.

    The first column is the weight of the newer or different part. The next column gives the weight of the part from the original Cobia. Next column is the weight difference in grams and the final column is the weight gain or loss in Lbs.

    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?-bike-weight.png

    After swapping out some parts with my older 26 inch bike that I am retiring, I dropped a touch over 2.7 Lbs off of the original weight for a new estimate of about 26.7. I can see a few things to do that would bring me under 26 like the grips, the pedals, and going tubeless.

    The table gives a quick idea of where some potential weight savings could come from on these bikes.


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    Edit. Bathroom scale is not too good in this case apparently. Table weights are good for what I put on the scale but total start and finish weights are off. See updated post below.
    Final weight of bike is actually 28.14 according to local bike shop digital scale.
    Last edited by chris5107; 08-27-2012 at 06:04 AM. Reason: update on final weight

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    2012 Superfly AL Elite, basically stock except for Tubless-ready & some little piddly stuff.

    Bongrager tubeless-ready system with Stans goo. 85 g savings per wheel using 2 oz of goo per tire.

    2" cut from handlebars 18g savings plus now it fits between the trees.

    2" cut from seatpost. 15g savings

    Bottle cage bolts replaced with nylon screws to fill holes. About 15 g savings

    Carbon headtube spacers saved 5 grams ($1 per gram but it looks cool. I actially added an extra 5mm carbon spacer so weight savings is down to 2 grams.

    Add:

    Eggbeater 3 pedals.

    Cateye strada wireless.

    Total weight 26.6#.

    Here are the weights of some of the components:

    Tube2 & valve cap2 180g each
    Tires 625g each
    Stock rim strops 20g each
    Replacement tubeless rim strips 50g each
    Tubeless stems 5g each

    Front wheel & rotor 1075g (not sure if this was with rim strip or not).

    Front skewer 55g
    Rear skewer 64g

    Rear wheel, rotor, cassette, wheel, & stock rim strip 1775g

    Headtube top 10g
    Headtube bolt 8g
    Headtube spacers 3x10mm 22g total

    Water bottle bolts & spacers 17g

    Cassette 448g (The cassette is very low-end. I will replace it with SLX or X7 (is X7 posible?) when it wears out).


    Seatpost (before cutting) 270g.
    Saddle 270g

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    @ Chris5107

    Curious if you have weighed just the frame to find out what it weighs as I have the exact same frame size as you. Trek doesn't readily give out that info because according to them there are variances in weight due to manufacturing processes (duh!). I was planning on breaking down the bike completely this winter to find out, but perhaps you have already weighed it. I have been thinking about converting it to a 1X9 race bike, but if the frame is a porker then I will probably look at a lighter frame to use as a platform.

    Thanks!

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    Using the bathroom scale, my 17.5 2012 X-cal came in at 25lbs.

    2011 RXL wheelset
    WTB Valcon seat
    M520 pedals
    ESI chunky grips
    Cutter carbon cage and a Bontrager RL cage.
    29-1 2.20 tires into tubeless.
    Fork steerer was cut down also.
    Sunline V-One 762mm wides bars with a Truativ T20 75mm stem. (pretty sure new stem is heavier than stock one)

    Everything else is stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc927 View Post
    @ Chris5107

    Curious if you have weighed just the frame to find out what it weighs as I have the exact same frame size as you. Trek doesn't readily give out that info because according to them there are variances in weight due to manufacturing processes (duh!). I was planning on breaking down the bike completely this winter to find out, but perhaps you have already weighed it. I have been thinking about converting it to a 1X9 race bike, but if the frame is a porker then I will probably look at a lighter frame to use as a platform.

    Thanks!
    I did not tear it down to the bare frame and my accurate scale only goes up to 2000g.

    My guess is that the frame is not too heavy based on anecdotal comparisons to my old 4900 26er frame.

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    Just weighed my 2011 X-cal on a set of digital fish scales that I've had forever. Weighed a 5lb bag of sugar first to see how accurate it would be and it read 5.1 lbs. My X-cal came in at 26.5. But I have not got a wheelset for it yet so I know when I can get that it should drop on down around 24. I've put a carbon bar on, WTB V saddle, Lizzard Skins Peaty lock on grips, Axiom Cycle computer, Crank Brothers 50/50 pedals, a shorter 70mm stem and I have a USE Alien Cyclops seatpost on the way. I removed the brake and rotor from the front. I ride greenway and hardpack and didn't feel a need for it.
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    2009 Cobia - 28.6lbs

    Deore Crank with external beaings
    bontrager rhythm comp wheelset
    Avid Elixer R
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    Update

    So I've completed my upgrade, my 2012 Marlin is now running a full Shimano XT (M780/785) groupset.

    Here are the specs:
    2012 Trek Marlin 29er
    15.5" frame size
    Shimano XT M785 hydraulic brakes
    Shimano Icetech 160mm rotors (6-bolt)

    Shimano XT M780 ispec shifters
    Shimano XT M785 front crankset - 2x10 - 170mm, 24/38
    Shimano XT M785 2x front derailleur
    Shimano XT M786 Shadow Plus rear derailleur - GS (mid-cage)
    Shimano XT M785 pedals

    Shimano XT HG94 chain
    Shimano XT M771 cassette - 11/36

    Planet Bike gel seat.

    Weight = 31.5 lbs


    My wife has a 2012 Trek Mamba
    15.5" size frame
    Selle Italia Donna gel seat
    All else stock, including reflectors

    Weight 31.6 lbs


    I am using a Balanzza mini luggage scale to weigh the bikes.

    As you can see, I didn't save much weight from doing the component swap. If I did lose any weight, the difference between me and my wifes Mamba is probably offset by the fork.

    So if you're looking for huge weight savings, start with your wheel/tire combo first (which is what everyone recommends upgrading first anyways).

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    Weight = 131.5 lbs
    What planet are you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    What planet are you on?
    Lol, post corrected.

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    My medium 2012mamba weighed in yesterday at 30.8lbs on a bike scale.

    I have a carbon seat post, laserdisc front wheel, x9 shifters and rear deraileur, new saddle and heavier than oem Easton stem.

    My buddy with an upgraded 2012, tubeless weighed in at 28.6

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    My custom Superfly AL Elite 2012


    Frame Superfly AL Elite 2012, L Size
    Front suspension RockShox SID XX 29er QR
    Wheels NoTubes ZTR Crest+DTSwiss 240s QR+Sapim D-Light+YellowRim
    Tires Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi+w/o tubes
    Shifters Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012 2/3х10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012
    Rear derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, L
    Crank Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 38/26, 175mm+Shimano SM-BB71-41A
    Cassette Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012,CS-M771, 11-36, 10 speed
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012
    Seatpost 3T Doric Team, 27.2х350, White
    Handlebar 3T Xida Pro Alloy, 31.8mm 640mm, Black (Will change
    3T Xida Team Carbon, 31.8mm 640mm, White)
    Stem 3T ARX Team, 100mm 6 degree, White
    Headset FSA NO.57, E2, sealed bearings
    Brakeset Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 180mm Rotors IceTech (6-bolts)
    Grips Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012

    Weight 22lbs 11oz (w/o pedals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My custom Superfly AL Elite 2012


    Frame Superfly AL Elite 2012, L Size
    Front suspension RockShox SID XX 29er QR
    Wheels NoTubes ZTR Crest+DTSwiss 240s QR+Sapim D-Light+YellowRim
    Tires Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi+w/o tubes
    Shifters Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012 2/3х10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012
    Rear derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, L
    Crank Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 38/26, 175mm+Shimano SM-BB71-41A
    Cassette Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012,CS-M771, 11-36, 10 speed
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012
    Seatpost 3T Doric Team, 27.2х350, White
    Handlebar 3T Xida Pro Alloy, 31.8mm 640mm, Black (Will change
    3T Xida Team Carbon, 31.8mm 640mm, White)
    Stem 3T ARX Team, 100mm 6 degree, White
    Headset FSA NO.57, E2, sealed bearings
    Brakeset Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 180mm Rotors IceTech (6-bolts)
    Grips Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012

    Weight 22lbs 11oz (w/o pedals)

    That really looks nice!!!

    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you to do all of the Mods??? And did you do the work yourself????

    I would love make some modifications on my 2012 Mamba, just the cost thing makes it difficult. Like everything else money makes the world go around. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmmagoo4 View Post
    That really looks nice!!!

    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you to do all of the Mods??? And did you do the work yourself????

    I would love make some modifications on my 2012 Mamba, just the cost thing makes it difficult. Like everything else money makes the world go around. Lol
    My old bike was stolen. I decided to put together a dream bike.

    Frame i bought from ebay 683.45 USD

    Groupset:
    - 1 x Crankset Shimano XT (FC-M785) 26-38
    - 1 x BB Shimano Hollowtech II (SM-BB70)
    - 1 x Rear derailleur Shimano XT Shadow (RD-M780)
    - 1 x Front derailleur Shimano XT (FD-M786)
    - 2 x Shimano XT Trigger 2/3x10 (SL-M780)
    - 1 x Cassette Shimano XT (CS-M771-10) 11-36 10-Speed
    - 1 x Chain Shimano XT (CN-HG94)
    - 2 x BL-M785 + BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brake System
    - 2 x 180mm IceTech Rotors
    I bought from bike-components - 486.55 EUR = 622 USD

    Wheelset:
    - Hub: DT 240s disc VR+HR 6-Bolts Black
    - 2 х Rim:NoTubes ZTR Crest white 29er
    - 64 х Spokes:Sapim D-Light 2.0/1.65 Black
    - 64 х Nipples:Alu Red
    I bought from actionsport - 432,35 EUR = 552.7 USD

    Fork
    Rock Shox Sid XX DA 2012 white 29" - XLoc diff. models
    I bought from actionsport - 520,92 EUR = 665.9 USD

    Other from chainreactioncycles
    FSA FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered Steerer - 1.5" / 1-1/8" - Black $101.04
    Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012 - Pair - Black $12.98
    3T ARX Team Stem - White - 100mm / 6 Deg $96.23
    3T Xida Team Carbon Flat Bars 31.8mm 640mm White $113.31
    Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012 - White - Vanox Rails $98.98
    NoTubes Stan's Rim Tape - 10Yds x 21mm $16.48
    NoTubes Stan's Universal Valve Stem MTB 2012 - Universal - 35mm - Pair For MTB $17.85
    2 х Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre - 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi $39.86
    Shimano BB71 MTB Press Fit Bottom Bracket $33.31
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 100mm Front Synthetic Lever $27.49
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 135mm Rear Synthetic Lever $27.49
    Summ = 624,88 USD

    And 3T Doric Team Carbon Seatpost-27.2mm/350mm/white i bought from twohubs - 139.00 USD, because can not find it in any other shops.

    Amount 3300 USD for a dream bike

    I assembled myself all. Only BB and headset adjust master in bike shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trueblue01gt View Post
    2011 19" paragon

    easton ec70 wide bars
    odi lock on grips
    rxl cage
    shimano 540 pedals
    thomson masterpiece post
    crest wheel set with ck hubs
    RoRo

    just under 25#
    got my bike down to 24 even now.
    switched to eggbeater 1's
    bontrager 29.1 2.0 team issues
    sram 1070 cassette
    kmc x10sl chain
    esi racers edge grips
    bontrager evoke rxl carbon saddle
    2007 Fisher Rig
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    2013 Trek Madone 2.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My old bike was stolen. I decided to put together a dream bike.

    Frame i bought from ebay 683.45 USD

    Groupset:
    - 1 x Crankset Shimano XT (FC-M785) 26-38
    - 1 x BB Shimano Hollowtech II (SM-BB70)
    - 1 x Rear derailleur Shimano XT Shadow (RD-M780)
    - 1 x Front derailleur Shimano XT (FD-M786)
    - 2 x Shimano XT Trigger 2/3x10 (SL-M780)
    - 1 x Cassette Shimano XT (CS-M771-10) 11-36 10-Speed
    - 1 x Chain Shimano XT (CN-HG94)
    - 2 x BL-M785 + BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brake System
    - 2 x 180mm IceTech Rotors
    I bought from bike-components - 486.55 EUR = 622 USD

    Wheelset:
    - Hub: DT 240s disc VR+HR 6-Bolts Black
    - 2 х Rim:NoTubes ZTR Crest white 29er
    - 64 х Spokes:Sapim D-Light 2.0/1.65 Black
    - 64 х Nipples:Alu Red
    I bought from actionsport - 432,35 EUR = 552.7 USD

    Fork
    Rock Shox Sid XX DA 2012 white 29" - XLoc diff. models
    I bought from actionsport - 520,92 EUR = 665.9 USD

    Other from chainreactioncycles
    FSA FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered Steerer - 1.5" / 1-1/8" - Black $101.04
    Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012 - Pair - Black $12.98
    3T ARX Team Stem - White - 100mm / 6 Deg $96.23
    3T Xida Team Carbon Flat Bars 31.8mm 640mm White $113.31
    Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012 - White - Vanox Rails $98.98
    NoTubes Stan's Rim Tape - 10Yds x 21mm $16.48
    NoTubes Stan's Universal Valve Stem MTB 2012 - Universal - 35mm - Pair For MTB $17.85
    2 х Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre - 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi $39.86
    Shimano BB71 MTB Press Fit Bottom Bracket $33.31
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 100mm Front Synthetic Lever $27.49
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 135mm Rear Synthetic Lever $27.49
    Summ = 624,88 USD

    And 3T Doric Team Carbon Seatpost-27.2mm/350mm/white i bought from twohubs - 139.00 USD, because can not find it in any other shops.

    Amount 3300 USD for a dream bike

    I assembled myself all. Only BB and headset adjust master in bike shop.


    BRAVO! Well done!

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    What should be the next upgrade to my 2012 Cobia? I have Wellgo MG-1pedals, Argon GP1 grips, and WTB rocket V SLT seat installed.
    Handle bar next?

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    ^Maybe tubeless, it's going to be my next move, shaves some rolling weight and you can run lower tire pressure

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    2013 Marlin 17.5 - straight from showroom, new pedals added later.

    32.5 lb.

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    yes the wheels are a good place to start but the stock (bonti SSR/Shimano 5025) 29er wheels on my 2011 xcal only weigh 2100gms ur lucky to save 1lb so theres another 5lbs to drop to get down low and its takes some work i just did this to my rig see if you can spot all the upgrades .. gotta run will list them all if ur interested later
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris5107 View Post
    I did not tear it down to the bare frame and my accurate scale only goes up to 2000g.

    My guess is that the frame is not too heavy based on anecdotal comparisons to my old 4900 26er frame.
    hey guys .. im thinking that my 2011 xcal is a heavy frame and i beleive there the same.. i think its the type of aluminum 6061.. year before (2010) was better frame. Ive done so much to mine and it still sits above 25lbs .. everything on these bikes are light

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    yes the wheels are a good place to start but the stock (bonti SSR/Shimano 5025) 29er wheels on my 2011 xcal only weigh 2100gms ur lucky to save 1lb so theres another 5lbs to drop to get down low and its takes some work i just did this to my rig see if you can spot all the upgrades .. gotta run will list them all if ur interested later
    I see one. The USE seatpost. I have one in the exact same color.
    Mongoose Summit Pro
    Gary Fisher Tassajara
    Motobecane Fantom Trail DS
    Trek 2011 X-Caliber

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    Quote Originally Posted by hangdogdaddy38 View Post
    I see one. The USE seatpost. I have one in the exact same color.
    haha yup! its sick the seat mount takes time to get used to but its solid... doesnt allow any creaking at least not on mine..

    heres what i've done:
    USE seat post (super light)
    Rubar emir 250gm seat (this thing is the best seat ive had! last one was selle italia flight)
    XO brakes (awsome)
    bigger back rotor/different front rotor
    SL-K carbon strait bar
    Control tech 80mm carbon stem
    Control tech carbon seatpost clamp
    Brev spacers and KCNC top cap
    Crank brothers foam dual lock grips/different bar end caps
    Blue aluminum rotor bolts
    Sram PC 1091R chain
    Frequency i23 29ers, with dt comps, blue nipples, and blue Hope Pro Evo 2 hubs
    (these things fly wow what a difference in how smooth the hubs are compared to the stock Shimano 5025 hubs there like spining a coffee grinder)( i only saved 145gms on the wheelset the stock xcal wheelset is light!!! but not stiff or smooth if you want lighter go with the i19s)

    I have blue KCNC jockey wheels, blue chainring bolts, blue racelight skewers, and blue cable clips all on route in the mail once its all in I'll post some good pics

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    Hey man thats a light aluminum hartail ... i have a 2011 xcall i got pics and a list of what i did in this thread... i can't figure out how yours is so much lighter then mine (26.5) it has to be the frame .. i cant find the weight for my frame anywhere I know my pedals and crank will lighten it and i could have lost an extra 250gms in my wheel build .. but it still wont come near the 22lbs you have.. i would be real happy with something closer to that... do you see anything im missing? thanks man

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    2012 Cobia weighs in at a gross gross weight of 30.2 lbs.

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    Pedals: Spank Spike
    Tires: WTB Bronson F/R WTB Stout
    Grips: Ergo

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    Hey man thats a light aluminum hartail ... i have a 2011 xcall i got pics and a list of what i did in this thread... i can't figure out how yours is so much lighter then mine (26.5) it has to be the frame .. i cant find the weight for my frame anywhere I know my pedals and crank will lighten it and i could have lost an extra 250gms in my wheel build .. but it still wont come near the 22lbs you have.. i would be real happy with something closer to that... do you see anything im missing? thanks man
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    my frame (17.5) is propably close to yours and my wheelset is 300gms heavier.. i have lots of really light stuff so it must be my crankset and the entire drivetrain (shifters derailers cassett and BB), tubless, ... my shock, is the reba RL but it came on the bike so not sure if its heavier OEM it says online that its 1575gms thats not heavy for a 100mm shock is it? .. its just that i crunched all the numbers and thats still 4.5lbs to lose with drivetrain and going tubless and when i add up all the listed weights it only comes to 2 lbs in weight loss if i upgrade all that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    my frame (17.5) is propably close to yours and my wheelset is 300gms heavier.. i have lots of really light stuff so it must be my crankset and the entire drivetrain (shifters derailers cassett and BB), tubless, ... my shock, is the reba RL but it came on the bike so not sure if its heavier OEM it says online that its 1575gms thats not heavy for a 100mm shock is it? .. its just that i crunched all the numbers and thats still 4.5lbs to lose with drivetrain and going tubless and when i add up all the listed weights it only comes to 2 lbs in weight loss if i upgrade all that..
    just looked your fork is 200gms lighter

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