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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    ya so i looked it all up my frames is smaller but pro weighs the same, my seatpost,seat,bars, and stem are all lighter then yours or closer to the same,my brakes are XO so the same and i have 180 rotors front and back, my wheelset is +300gms and fork +200gms my new pedals are 225gms

    so maybe the weight is drivetrain and headset was ur new headset alot lighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    Size L, is that 19" or 21"?

    That is light! And mine's 17.5". I am not regretting not springing for carbon anymore

    Does anyone have an idea what a Superfly carbon hardtail frame would weigh? What about the new SL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    Size L, is that 19" or 21"?

    That is light! And mine's 17.5". I am not regretting springing for carbon anymore

    Does anyone have an idea what a Superfly carbon hardtail frame would weigh? What about the new SL?
    17.5 carbon frames come in around 1100gms-1300gms theres a chinese 17.5 carbon that weighs 1256gms some are even lower

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    2012 19" X-Caliber
    stock with wellgo m3 pedals
    Weight: 28lbs even

    Stans ZTR Arch Ex wheelset
    Maxxis Icon 29x2.2
    Elite Sior Race Water Bottle Cage
    Crank Bros Eggbeater 1's
    Stock bars cut down 20mm

    Final weight: 25.79lbs

    Contemplating going w/ an MRP 1x chain guide. Dropped almost 0.75lbs on my last bike doing this and never need the big ring or granny ring in my area.

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    '12 Trek Wahoo 17.5 (Same frame as mamba/marlin/cobia/xcal)

    27.8 lbs

    Crankbrothers cobalt 3 flat bar
    Thomson Elite X4 stem
    Maxxis Ignitor 2.1 Tires
    Mavic TN317 Rims
    XT Hubs
    XT Crankset and BB
    Avid BB5 brakes
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Serfas Stinger saddle
    HG50 Cassette
    Alivio Rear Derailleur
    RS Recon silver tk solo air (none g2)
    VP flats
    Took off front derailleur/shifter and converted to 1x9

    ....the stock suntour fork and cranks are scarily heavy

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    Almost done my build just did... x9 shifters, x9 rear derailer, x9 2x10 front derailer, and x9 2x10 crankset .. I've now upgraded everything even cable clips ...all thats left is ashima airotors (blue or white,will save 70gms), next summer eggbeaters and tubless ..
    heres my list:
    Frequency I23s, blue nips, on Hope Pro 2 evos blue, blue valve stem cap
    TI QRs
    SL-K carbon strait bar
    Controltech carbon stem (80mm)
    My base spacer is top of BigMonster headset (the rest wouldnt fit),Brev spacers, KCNC cap
    XO brakes
    X9 2x10 shifters (blue cables)
    Blue cable clips
    Emir Rubar super light seat (awsome)
    USE cyclops seat post (one of the lightest)
    Controltech carbon seatpost clamp
    X9 2x10 front derailer
    X9 2x10 crankset
    X9 rear derailer
    KCNC blue jocky wheels (not in picture)
    Sram PC1091R chain
    Shimano M525 pedals
    in the mail blue chainring bolts (not sure if they will fit 2x10 crankset?) blue waterbottle bolts
    Weight = 25lbs
    this was alot of fun now I think ill have some fun on it till I upgrade to carbon frame at the end of winter unless the world ends haha then ill go out happy knowing I finished this thing at least haha

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    I'm so glad I found this thread. Inspires me that a lot of people are dumping money onto these frames. I have a 2012 Trek Mamba and was contemplating if I should just save up my money and upgrade in the near future to a more XC racebike HT or ST but after hearing all this, I am changing my mind. I would love to shed some weight and it will make the wife happy that I kept the bike since she bought it for me as a anniversary gift. Yea, I know in the long run it will probably be more cost efficient to save up and just buy a new bike but I would rather have a bike that is unique and built by me with all the parts I want on it. Just ordered some stuff and waiting for everything to fall in place.

    Is it possible to also put some pricing on how much you spent on upgrades? Just curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    I'm so glad I found this thread. Inspires me that a lot of people are dumping money onto these frames. I have a 2012 Trek Mamba and was contemplating if I should just save up my money and upgrade in the near future to a more XC racebike HT or ST but after hearing all this, I am changing my mind. I would love to shed some weight and it will make the wife happy that I kept the bike since she bought it for me as a anniversary gift. Yea, I know in the long run it will probably be more cost efficient to save up and just buy a new bike but I would rather have a bike that is unique and built by me with all the parts I want on it. Just ordered some stuff and waiting for everything to fall in place.

    Is it possible to also put some pricing on how much you spent on upgrades? Just curious...
    Upgrading is a good choice, especially since your bike carries such sentimental value. The very idea that you "built" your own bike also makes a huge difference compared to buying something off shelf. =)

    My bike was only $500. I spent ~$1600 on upgraded parts, not counting the tools. It's probably a couple hundred dollars cheaper to just buy a better equiped bike, but this is a very unique experience for me and I think it is well worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    I'm so glad I found this thread. Inspires me that a lot of people are dumping money onto these frames. I have a 2012 Trek Mamba and was contemplating if I should just save up my money and upgrade in the near future to a more XC racebike HT or ST but after hearing all this, I am changing my mind. I would love to shed some weight and it will make the wife happy that I kept the bike since she bought it for me as a anniversary gift. Yea, I know in the long run it will probably be more cost efficient to save up and just buy a new bike but I would rather have a bike that is unique and built by me with all the parts I want on it. Just ordered some stuff and waiting for everything to fall in place.

    Is it possible to also put some pricing on how much you spent on upgrades? Just curious...
    In Canadian dollars, I've spent $700 on the 2012 Marlin, and about $1000 for all the 2012/13 Shimano XT component group. In this case, I "feel" that this upgrade process was more cost effective than saving and "buying a better bike". I don't think you can find a big-box HT 29'er with a full XT group for under $2000. Sure those already-packaged XT bikes have better forks and wheels, but most people upgrade those as well right away.

    The process of stripping my bike down to the frame, and re-building it with the new group was also great fun, and informative for me on how these bikes work. Which will save my $$$ from having to take it to the shop for minor adjustments/repairs from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wynnbb View Post
    Upgrading is a good choice, especially since your bike carries such sentimental value. The very idea that you "built" your own bike also makes a huge difference compared to buying something off shelf. =)

    My bike was only $500. I spent ~$1600 on upgraded parts, not counting the tools. It's probably a couple hundred dollars cheaper to just buy a better bike, but this is a very unique experience for me and I think it is well worth it.
    I agree it is fun but not cost effective .. i got this off the lbs owners son barley used at just above half price so it was worth it especialy getting most stuff at chain reaction cycles . com they have awesome deals and free super fast delivery over $100 spent... it was alot of fun! and i feel good having completed it and ya looks sick but even though i could have gone with a few lighter things these frames are real heavy!! for the money i spent between 1700-2500 (would have to really look through all the reciepts) i should have a lighter bike.. i will be looking for carbon superfly frame same year and colour sceme so it will end up working out in the end .. the other thing that is good sticking with trek is the G2 geo. so much better with a longer bike

    If ur not married to ur bike i would sell it and for example theres a specialized for $1900 that weighs 24-26lbs to start think its the stump jumper comp .. i just don't like the looks!

    you can also have fun build it and then get A chinese carbon and throw all your new parts on that then rebuild your old frame with original parts and sell it ... thats my other option im looking at... good point to think of you dont lose the value of your old stuff cause you could even by the chinese carbon frame for 400 and throw all ur stock stuff on then sell that to recoup some cash if you really liked your bike .. haha

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    2012 Marlin. Picked up the frame at a great price and decided to build it up.

    X-Fusion Slide29 fork
    2x10 XT Crank/cassette
    XT Front/Rear Drls.
    Avid BB7 brakes
    WTB Speeddisk rims / Deore hubs
    WTB Nano tires
    Thompson Elite post
    WTB Rocket V saddle
    Bontrager stem/bars.
    Old as hell beat up crankbros pedals

    As it sits now it's right around 28lbs. Goal is to bring it to 24 eventually. Did this as budget as I could and plan on riding the hell out of it so didn't need anything race only... yet Plan on changing out the stem/bars/grips to something lighter and picking up a lighter saddle as well. Down the line I might get a lighter wheelset but for now this works alright.


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    [QUOTE=Mr Cup;9823504]2012 Marlin. Picked up the frame at a great price and decided to build it up.

    X-Fusion Slide29 fork
    2x10 XT Crank/cassette
    XT Front/Rear Drls.
    Avid BB7 brakes
    WTB Speeddisk rims / Deore hubs
    WTB Nano tires
    Thompson Elite post
    WTB Rocket V saddle
    Bontrager stem/bars.
    Old as hell beat up crankbros pedals

    As it sits now it's right around 28lbs. Goal is to bring it to 24 eventually. Did this as budget as I could and plan on riding the hell out of it so didn't need anything race only... yet Plan on changing out the stem/bars/grips to something lighter and picking up a lighter saddle as well. Down the line I might get a lighter wheelset but for now this works alright.

    how is the WTB Rocket V Saddle? I am looking into purchasing one but wanted to get your insight.

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    The Rocket V is quite a bit more narrow than other saddles I've tried and I've only used it for a little general riding and one 24 mile race on some really rooty singletrack. For me, I don't think it's going to stay on the bike. I'm 5'11 190lbs and It's just not the right shape/size for extended comfort for me. I like to ride for several hours when I go ride and I'm still trying to find the right saddle that's not overly heavy. I'm going to give the Rocket V a little bit though and see how it rides over a little while if there is any break-in / etc. I know a few people that absolutely love them right out of the box though.

    Love my Brooks B-17 and actually use it on longer (30+ mile) rides but need something lighter for a race bike.

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    anyone knows how much a Marlin frame weigh?particularly a 19. thanks!

    a built,almost stock (diff pedals,grips,seatclamp and tubes) weighed in around 33 pounds and after replacing parts, managed to pull it down to a lil less than 30 pounds after replacing the handlebar (la bici),stem (stylo),saddle (selle italia),drivetrain to 1X9 (XO grippies,X9 RD,XT cassette,Stylo SS cranks with ceramic BB,pc991 chain,exustar pedals).

    should be down to sub 25 if i replace the anchor fork (which is around 6 pounds from what i read) to a rigid one or around 27-28 with a sussy fork. lighter tubeless wheelsets should shave off 2 pounds at least off of it. also a lighter seatpost would be nice too.
    i hate biking!

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    2011 Trek Mamba (17.5")
    Selle San Marco US Postal Saddle (pretty dope, lol)
    Niner Carbon Fork (dropped 4 lbs! over stock Tora)
    Niner Aluminum Stem
    Niner Aluminum Handlebars
    Niner Seat Clamp (not pictured)
    Shimano XT brakes
    Continental Race Kings
    Ergon GA1 Evo grips
    1x8 Setup with MRP Chain Guide

    Stock build set-up came in around 32 lbs. She's now down to 25.7 lbs and you can definitely feel the difference. Yet another Gator themed build. Go Gators!

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    My Trek Mamba

    Just upgraded a few things recently. She stands at 28.1 pounds per bike shop.

    2012 Trek Mamba
    - SLX Crankset 3x9
    - SLX Front/Rear Derails
    - Deore Shifters
    - Stan's Arch EX 29er with XT Casette and SLX Rotors
    - Maxxis Ignitor 2.1
    - XT Pedals
    - RaceFace Evolve XC Stem/Handlebars
    - RaceFace grips


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    Here's my 2012 17.5" Cobia
    AC70 Bars
    ODI Grips
    Hayes Prime Expert Brakes
    Alligator Wavy Rotors (180/203)
    X9 Crank and BB
    Hutchinson Cobra Tires

    Weighed in at 28.2 pounds according to the bathroom scale.


    Shimano M-780 XT pedals are on their way.

    I have Manitou Tower Pro 15TA forks on order and a new set of Flows on Chris Kings shortly after that.

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    19" Mamba

    120mm Manitou fork, 90mm stem, Sun Ringle wheels, 2.25 NN tubeless, Wellgo magnesium platforms, 700mm Truvativ bar, ditched the big ring and did a 36T w/BBG bash guard.

    28lbs 7oz. With a light seatpost, XT brakes and XT casette I'll break 27lbs and be done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    Just upgraded a few things recently. She stands at 28.1 pounds per bike shop.

    2012 Trek Mamba
    - SLX Crankset 3x9
    - SLX Front/Rear Derails
    - Deore Shifters
    - Stan's Arch EX 29er with XT Casette and SLX Rotors
    - Maxxis Ignitor 2.1
    - XT Pedals
    - RaceFace Evolve XC Stem/Handlebars
    - RaceFace grips

    Just got a Reba SL Fork. dropped weight to 27 pounds... 1 more pound and i am done. Waiting to get all my tubes out of the way and then going tubeless. LOL, I got 4 pairs left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    Waiting to get all my tubes out of the way and then going tubeless. LOL, I got 4 pairs left.
    Is Stan's yellowtape already on your new wheelset? If so just use the tubes for chainstay protectors.

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    Still waiting on my wheelset to be built (Hopefully by the end of the week)

    Here is a list of old vs new weights of my new goodies. (New wheel weights are estimates for now)








    Next to be replaced will be the rear derailleur, Seatpost, Saddle and Stem. My goal is ~25lbs.

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    Swapping on XT brakes (for performamce not weight!) and to an X0 cassette I dropped to 28.3lbs.

    I'm adding a 6oz lighter saddle and a new seat post soon. With that its easily into the 27lb range and its done.

    Not bad for a 120mm 19" HT

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    I have a 2012 Cobia. Looking to upgrade wheels but unsure what exactly would be a good upgrade when compared to the stock wheels. Would a set of wheels in e $250 range be considered better?


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    Down to 26.4lbs. I'll be setting up tubeless next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Cup View Post
    2012 Marlin. Picked up the frame at a great price and decided to build it up.

    X-Fusion Slide29 fork
    How's the x-fusion slide? I've got a 2012 marlin SS and I'm thinking about replacing the sr suntour w/ the slide 29 with remote lockout.

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    2013 X-Cal 17.5", reflectors removed, no pedals: 27.2 lbs.

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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    2012 trek marlin 17.5 single speed

    -FSA xc 180 bars
    -Origin 8 pro UNO saddle
    -ODI rogue grips
    -Dirty dog reaper stem (Heavy!)
    -Avid Elixir 1 taperbore brakes (oem off 2013 Carve $35 on eBay)
    28.1 lbs.
    *just ordered*
    -Raceface Next SL carbon bars
    -WTB Lasdisc trail wheelset
    -Kenda negeval 29x2.35 tires
    I'm also looking for a fork probably x-fusion slide or Reba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamar83 View Post
    How's the x-fusion slide? I've got a 2012 marlin SS and I'm thinking about replacing the sr suntour w/ the slide 29 with remote lockout.
    Couldn't be happier with the Slide 29. I was enjoying it on the local singletrack but what really made me happy was how well it handled bombing down some of the unmaintained fire roads up in the mountains a few weeks ago. The weight difference between a stock fork and any decent fork is going to be substantial and this fork is definitely light.

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    Digging up an old thread. I finally got my 17.5" Cobia down to the bare frame. It weighs in at 1935g.

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    Cool -- good to know.

    FWIW Trek told me the Superfly AL "platinum"-series frame was about a half-pound lighter.

    At any rate, this just goes to show that the frame is not a major contributor to overall weight. I rode a Superfly SL Pro at a Trek demo. It felt insanely light. The rep said the frame was 8-hundred-something grams. But I'll bet the bulk of the weight savings was in the wheels and other components.

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    I was pleasantly surprised at the weight.

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    Got my 19" Mamba to 27.8lbs. Pictured hung with a strap that weighs 2oz.

    120mm Tower Pro fork, 180mm front rotor w/XT brakes, Truvativ cockpit- T30 stem, 700mm bars, and seatpost. XO casette, Sun Ringle wheels, 2.25 Nobby Nic, 2.2 Ardent, SLX cranks, SLX mid cage RD, setup 2x9 with a BBG bash guard. This thing flies downhill with a HTA around 68.6 degrees. May try an angled headset later.


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    Anyone know what the factory 2013 19" Mamba is? I started the build up
    XT cranks 2-10 40/28
    XT chain
    XT front mech
    XT rear mech
    XT cassett 1-10 11/36
    XT pedals (inbound)
    XT 2-10 shifters
    Thomson post
    Thomson clamp
    Thomson carbon flat xc bar (inbound)
    Thomson x4 stem 100mm 10deg rise
    Selli Gl Flow Carbon Seat
    WTB Clamp Grips
    Manitou Tower Pro (Inbound)
    Hope pro evo 2 hubs (inbound)
    Hope skewers (inbound)
    spokes DT Swiss w/brass niples (inbound)
    WTS I23 Frequency wheels (inbound) W/stans valves and tape
    Conti X Kings 2.2 Protect Black Chili

    I'm hoping I can get this below 28.5.
    I been using a spread sheet to keep track of the weights as part came off and on. I forgot to weigh the bike prior to starting. I wasn't going to worry but once I started weighing things it was cool and now is a addition. I have been riding for 20 years and have never weighed parts but ts fun to do.....

    My old Stumpy, Shock is wasted that's how I ended up with the Mamba.




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    Don't recall exactly. It was approx 30.5lbs no pedals for a 19"

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    Well Just installed the
    Tower Pro
    2238g RockShox XC32 w/coil spring
    1718g Tower Pro after I cut the steer tube & installed lower race
    That's 1.14 lbs

    Thomson Carbon Bars are just plain awesome.

    Wheels should be in today. When replacing the fork found the headset seal was torn from incorrect install or adjustment. When I test rode it the HS was popping as if out of adjustment, They rolled it in and re-adjusted it but I think the seal was broke at that point. I'm thinking, a hope or king HS in in the future.







    Wheelset installed.
    Published weight 31.0
    Actual after upgrades w/pump & cyclometer 26.2
    I have a Hope HS, Skewers, and XT pedals still inbound
    Never owned a set of hopes always ran XT hubs, wow I like the noise as well. In TX we have a lot of Hike/Bike trails and it will let em know I'm coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jroberts1968 View Post
    Well Just installed the
    Tower Pro
    2238g RockShox XC32 w/coil spring
    1718g Tower Pro after I cut the steer tube & installed lower race
    That's 1.14 lbs

    Thomson Carbon Bars are just plain awesome.

    Wheels should be in today. When replacing the fork found the headset seal was torn from incorrect install or adjustment. When I test rode it the HS was popping as if out of adjustment, They rolled it in and re-adjusted it but I think the seal was broke at that point. I'm thinking, a hope or king HS in in the future.







    Wheelset installed.
    Published weight 31.0
    Actual after upgrades w/pump & cyclometer 26.2
    I have a Hope HS, Skewers, and XT pedals still inbound
    Never owned a set of hopes always ran XT hubs, wow I like the noise as well. In TX we have a lot of Hike/Bike trails and it will let em know I'm coming!
    I ended up installing 785 XT disc brakes Set w/Ice Tech Rotors, King Inset 1 headset.

    25.7 lb the bike is really great climbs and descends awesome.


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    Re: How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    Last I weighed my Marlin it was 28-29 lbs. That was before new wheels or conversion to 2x10. Guessing around 27.5 now without accessories installed.




    Origin 8 bars and stem
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    Slx 2x10 fd,rd and '13 slx 2/3x10 shifters
    Ashimu Airotors 180mm
    Alex dp20 XC wheelset with Slx hubs
    Kenda karma tires.
    Raceface chainrings.
    Jagwire cables/housings

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    Great setups everyone!. Once drivetrain is done, thinking of going 2x10 and tubeless. Any recommendations on tires? Looking at the Crossmark UST's

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    First upgrade on 2013 Mamba?

    Along the lines of this thread, I just got a 2013 Trek Mamba. I eventually wanna upgrade the fork to handle bigger drops/jumps and soak up bumpy terrain at speed. Any recommendations? ..I need to buy a fork that has been specifically designed for G2 geometry right? E.g. upgrade to the same fork that is used on the X-Cal? Or are there better options for more or less money? ...or would tubeless tires/rims be a better first investment? I'm currently allllll stock except for pedals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntrager View Post
    Along the lines of this thread, I just got a 2013 Trek Mamba. I eventually wanna upgrade the fork to handle bigger drops/jumps and soak up bumpy terrain at speed. Any recommendations? ..I need to buy a fork that has been specifically designed for G2 geometry right? E.g. upgrade to the same fork that is used on the X-Cal? Or are there better options for more or less money? ...or would tubeless tires/rims be a better first investment? I'm currently allllll stock except for pedals...
    The truth is, I've only been able to find The rock Shox Revelation as a possible fit on the bike. The issue that we are going to have those of us who own a trek mamba Cobia x-cal or wahoo is that all of those frames have the exact same geometry So, finding a solution for that is going to be difficult when you try to replace the front fork. Remember, we bought cross country bikes that are not designed or built for all mountain or other trail riding. So, if we start adding all mountain or trail components onto our bike we may in-depth getting better performance that were looking for but it's certainly not going to be ideal unless we go all out and replace our cross country bikes for an all mountain ride, just my $ 0.02
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChewynMe View Post
    The truth is, I've only been able to find The rock Shox Revelation as a possible fit on the bike. The issue that we are going to have those of us who own a trek mamba Cobia x-cal or wahoo is that all of those frames have the exact same geometry So, finding a solution for that is going to be difficult when you try to replace the front fork. Remember, we bought cross country bikes that are not designed or built for all mountain or other trail riding. So, if we start adding all mountain or trail components onto our bike we may in-depth getting better performance that were looking for but it's certainly not going to be ideal unless we go all out and replace our cross country bikes for an all mountain ride, just my $ 0.02
    Thanks for the input, I was thinking a Recon Silver or Gold might also fit, but for those, I doubt I'd notice enough difference to justify droppin that much cash anyways. ...Ah yes, the curse of the cross country mountain bikes haha. The best offerings for under $1000, yet the bikes have their limitations. I say, break the curse! I will ride my bike all over every mountain until it breaks or I do. All in the meanwhile still riding XC to get in shape and have fun.

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    But becaue of the way it rides it feels lighter to me!!

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    Good pic. I didn't like the white paintjob at first, but it grows on you.

    Did you replace the fork? My stanchions are white too. Different grips too?

    They aren't the lightest bikes around. Mine was 26.6 with pedals and computer, after I removed the reflectors and shortened the handlebars and seatpost. I went 2x10 with RaceFace rings and replaced that massive cassette with an XT, so am close to 25 now. Went tubeless also. But you're right, the way it handles makes it feel a lot lighter than it is. Very little flex.

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    I gotta put some work in on my 2013 Mamba this winter, after riding my 2012 Fuel ex8 she feels like a boat anchor. Thinking Stans Arch rims, SLX crank, SLX brakes, lighter bars and possibly a Tower Pro.

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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1374954611.067344.jpg swapped out my fork for a rigid Salsa one ad added a longer stem and Maid bars for a trip coming up. As it sits here with a full seat bag it was a little over 26lbs. My wheelset and tires are a place I could save a lot of weight but they've been solid and reliable when I'm far from any services. Rigid fork and Maid bars definitely gave the bike a much more comfortable riding position.

    I'll be swapping the heavy Bronson's for some 700x35 tires for the route. Trying to keep the bike plus all my gear loaded up to as close to 35lbs as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Cup View Post
    Couldn't be happier with the Slide 29. I was enjoying it on the local singletrack but what really made me happy was how well it handled bombing down some of the unmaintained fire roads up in the mountains a few weeks ago. The weight difference between a stock fork and any decent fork is going to be substantial and this fork is definitely light.
    I've replaced the stock fork on my marlin to a Manitou MAtch29 Absolute plus and love it. Although being in BC really puts a fork through its paces. I rode the suntour for about 7 months and it was finally getting quite plush surprisingly enough( yeah i know not a possible thing for suntour but it was getting there), but now riding the Manitou on rolling some sizeable drops (1-1 1/2 feet)and constant one after the other, the fork performs very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntrager View Post
    Along the lines of this thread, I just got a 2013 Trek Mamba. I eventually wanna upgrade the fork to handle bigger drops/jumps and soak up bumpy terrain at speed. Any recommendations? ..I need to buy a fork that has been specifically designed for G2 geometry right? E.g. upgrade to the same fork that is used on the X-Cal? Or are there better options for more or less money? ...or would tubeless tires/rims be a better first investment? I'm currently allllll stock except for pedals...
    You can search for G2 forks on Ebay. I replaced mine with just a Manitou MAtch 29 Absolute+ and it isn't G2. G2 is great, yes it makes the opffset easier to roll out drops but if you are a decent rider you should be able to roll out most drops.

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    Re: How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    The fork is one of the best investments for the ride and weight savings. I dropped 1 1/2 pounds by just replacing the fork. I put a fox float on my 12 cobia. Got lucky because it had the G2 offset. I believe the manitou has the closest offset to G2.

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    How much does your Marlin, Mamba, Cobia, X Calibur, Paragon weigh?

    Anybody know if the Bontrager switchblade is g2 geo?


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