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    Using the bathroom scale, my 17.5 2012 X-cal came in at 25lbs.

    2011 RXL wheelset
    WTB Valcon seat
    M520 pedals
    ESI chunky grips
    Cutter carbon cage and a Bontrager RL cage.
    29-1 2.20 tires into tubeless.
    Fork steerer was cut down also.
    Sunline V-One 762mm wides bars with a Truativ T20 75mm stem. (pretty sure new stem is heavier than stock one)

    Everything else is stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc927 View Post
    @ Chris5107

    Curious if you have weighed just the frame to find out what it weighs as I have the exact same frame size as you. Trek doesn't readily give out that info because according to them there are variances in weight due to manufacturing processes (duh!). I was planning on breaking down the bike completely this winter to find out, but perhaps you have already weighed it. I have been thinking about converting it to a 1X9 race bike, but if the frame is a porker then I will probably look at a lighter frame to use as a platform.

    Thanks!
    I did not tear it down to the bare frame and my accurate scale only goes up to 2000g.

    My guess is that the frame is not too heavy based on anecdotal comparisons to my old 4900 26er frame.

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    Just weighed my 2011 X-cal on a set of digital fish scales that I've had forever. Weighed a 5lb bag of sugar first to see how accurate it would be and it read 5.1 lbs. My X-cal came in at 26.5. But I have not got a wheelset for it yet so I know when I can get that it should drop on down around 24. I've put a carbon bar on, WTB V saddle, Lizzard Skins Peaty lock on grips, Axiom Cycle computer, Crank Brothers 50/50 pedals, a shorter 70mm stem and I have a USE Alien Cyclops seatpost on the way. I removed the brake and rotor from the front. I ride greenway and hardpack and didn't feel a need for it.
    Mongoose Summit Pro
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    2009 Cobia - 28.6lbs

    Deore Crank with external beaings
    bontrager rhythm comp wheelset
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    Update

    So I've completed my upgrade, my 2012 Marlin is now running a full Shimano XT (M780/785) groupset.

    Here are the specs:
    2012 Trek Marlin 29er
    15.5" frame size
    Shimano XT M785 hydraulic brakes
    Shimano Icetech 160mm rotors (6-bolt)

    Shimano XT M780 ispec shifters
    Shimano XT M785 front crankset - 2x10 - 170mm, 24/38
    Shimano XT M785 2x front derailleur
    Shimano XT M786 Shadow Plus rear derailleur - GS (mid-cage)
    Shimano XT M785 pedals

    Shimano XT HG94 chain
    Shimano XT M771 cassette - 11/36

    Planet Bike gel seat.

    Weight = 31.5 lbs


    My wife has a 2012 Trek Mamba
    15.5" size frame
    Selle Italia Donna gel seat
    All else stock, including reflectors

    Weight 31.6 lbs


    I am using a Balanzza mini luggage scale to weigh the bikes.

    As you can see, I didn't save much weight from doing the component swap. If I did lose any weight, the difference between me and my wifes Mamba is probably offset by the fork.

    So if you're looking for huge weight savings, start with your wheel/tire combo first (which is what everyone recommends upgrading first anyways).

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    Weight = 131.5 lbs
    What planet are you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    What planet are you on?
    Lol, post corrected.

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    My medium 2012mamba weighed in yesterday at 30.8lbs on a bike scale.

    I have a carbon seat post, laserdisc front wheel, x9 shifters and rear deraileur, new saddle and heavier than oem Easton stem.

    My buddy with an upgraded 2012, tubeless weighed in at 28.6

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    My custom Superfly AL Elite 2012


    Frame Superfly AL Elite 2012, L Size
    Front suspension RockShox SID XX 29er QR
    Wheels NoTubes ZTR Crest+DTSwiss 240s QR+Sapim D-Light+YellowRim
    Tires Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi+w/o tubes
    Shifters Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012 2/3х10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012
    Rear derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, L
    Crank Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 38/26, 175mm+Shimano SM-BB71-41A
    Cassette Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012,CS-M771, 11-36, 10 speed
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012
    Seatpost 3T Doric Team, 27.2х350, White
    Handlebar 3T Xida Pro Alloy, 31.8mm 640mm, Black (Will change
    3T Xida Team Carbon, 31.8mm 640mm, White)
    Stem 3T ARX Team, 100mm 6 degree, White
    Headset FSA NO.57, E2, sealed bearings
    Brakeset Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 180mm Rotors IceTech (6-bolts)
    Grips Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012

    Weight 22lbs 11oz (w/o pedals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My custom Superfly AL Elite 2012


    Frame Superfly AL Elite 2012, L Size
    Front suspension RockShox SID XX 29er QR
    Wheels NoTubes ZTR Crest+DTSwiss 240s QR+Sapim D-Light+YellowRim
    Tires Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi+w/o tubes
    Shifters Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012 2/3х10 speed
    Front derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012
    Rear derailleur Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, L
    Crank Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 38/26, 175mm+Shimano SM-BB71-41A
    Cassette Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012,CS-M771, 11-36, 10 speed
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012
    Seatpost 3T Doric Team, 27.2х350, White
    Handlebar 3T Xida Pro Alloy, 31.8mm 640mm, Black (Will change
    3T Xida Team Carbon, 31.8mm 640mm, White)
    Stem 3T ARX Team, 100mm 6 degree, White
    Headset FSA NO.57, E2, sealed bearings
    Brakeset Shimano XT Dyna-Sys 2012, 180mm Rotors IceTech (6-bolts)
    Grips Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012

    Weight 22lbs 11oz (w/o pedals)

    That really looks nice!!!

    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you to do all of the Mods??? And did you do the work yourself????

    I would love make some modifications on my 2012 Mamba, just the cost thing makes it difficult. Like everything else money makes the world go around. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmmagoo4 View Post
    That really looks nice!!!

    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you to do all of the Mods??? And did you do the work yourself????

    I would love make some modifications on my 2012 Mamba, just the cost thing makes it difficult. Like everything else money makes the world go around. Lol
    My old bike was stolen. I decided to put together a dream bike.

    Frame i bought from ebay 683.45 USD

    Groupset:
    - 1 x Crankset Shimano XT (FC-M785) 26-38
    - 1 x BB Shimano Hollowtech II (SM-BB70)
    - 1 x Rear derailleur Shimano XT Shadow (RD-M780)
    - 1 x Front derailleur Shimano XT (FD-M786)
    - 2 x Shimano XT Trigger 2/3x10 (SL-M780)
    - 1 x Cassette Shimano XT (CS-M771-10) 11-36 10-Speed
    - 1 x Chain Shimano XT (CN-HG94)
    - 2 x BL-M785 + BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brake System
    - 2 x 180mm IceTech Rotors
    I bought from bike-components - 486.55 EUR = 622 USD

    Wheelset:
    - Hub: DT 240s disc VR+HR 6-Bolts Black
    - 2 х Rim:NoTubes ZTR Crest white 29er
    - 64 х Spokes:Sapim D-Light 2.0/1.65 Black
    - 64 х Nipples:Alu Red
    I bought from actionsport - 432,35 EUR = 552.7 USD

    Fork
    Rock Shox Sid XX DA 2012 white 29" - XLoc diff. models
    I bought from actionsport - 520,92 EUR = 665.9 USD

    Other from chainreactioncycles
    FSA FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered Steerer - 1.5" / 1-1/8" - Black $101.04
    Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012 - Pair - Black $12.98
    3T ARX Team Stem - White - 100mm / 6 Deg $96.23
    3T Xida Team Carbon Flat Bars 31.8mm 640mm White $113.31
    Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012 - White - Vanox Rails $98.98
    NoTubes Stan's Rim Tape - 10Yds x 21mm $16.48
    NoTubes Stan's Universal Valve Stem MTB 2012 - Universal - 35mm - Pair For MTB $17.85
    2 х Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre - 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi $39.86
    Shimano BB71 MTB Press Fit Bottom Bracket $33.31
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 100mm Front Synthetic Lever $27.49
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 135mm Rear Synthetic Lever $27.49
    Summ = 624,88 USD

    And 3T Doric Team Carbon Seatpost-27.2mm/350mm/white i bought from twohubs - 139.00 USD, because can not find it in any other shops.

    Amount 3300 USD for a dream bike

    I assembled myself all. Only BB and headset adjust master in bike shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trueblue01gt View Post
    2011 19" paragon

    easton ec70 wide bars
    odi lock on grips
    rxl cage
    shimano 540 pedals
    thomson masterpiece post
    crest wheel set with ck hubs
    RoRo

    just under 25#
    got my bike down to 24 even now.
    switched to eggbeater 1's
    bontrager 29.1 2.0 team issues
    sram 1070 cassette
    kmc x10sl chain
    esi racers edge grips
    bontrager evoke rxl carbon saddle
    2007 Fisher Rig
    2011 Trek Paragon
    2013 Trek Madone 2.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My old bike was stolen. I decided to put together a dream bike.

    Frame i bought from ebay 683.45 USD

    Groupset:
    - 1 x Crankset Shimano XT (FC-M785) 26-38
    - 1 x BB Shimano Hollowtech II (SM-BB70)
    - 1 x Rear derailleur Shimano XT Shadow (RD-M780)
    - 1 x Front derailleur Shimano XT (FD-M786)
    - 2 x Shimano XT Trigger 2/3x10 (SL-M780)
    - 1 x Cassette Shimano XT (CS-M771-10) 11-36 10-Speed
    - 1 x Chain Shimano XT (CN-HG94)
    - 2 x BL-M785 + BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brake System
    - 2 x 180mm IceTech Rotors
    I bought from bike-components - 486.55 EUR = 622 USD

    Wheelset:
    - Hub: DT 240s disc VR+HR 6-Bolts Black
    - 2 х Rim:NoTubes ZTR Crest white 29er
    - 64 х Spokes:Sapim D-Light 2.0/1.65 Black
    - 64 х Nipples:Alu Red
    I bought from actionsport - 432,35 EUR = 552.7 USD

    Fork
    Rock Shox Sid XX DA 2012 white 29" - XLoc diff. models
    I bought from actionsport - 520,92 EUR = 665.9 USD

    Other from chainreactioncycles
    FSA FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered Steerer - 1.5" / 1-1/8" - Black $101.04
    Ritchey WCS Truegrip Foam Grips 2012 - Pair - Black $12.98
    3T ARX Team Stem - White - 100mm / 6 Deg $96.23
    3T Xida Team Carbon Flat Bars 31.8mm 640mm White $113.31
    Selle Italia SLR Genuine XC Saddle 2012 - White - Vanox Rails $98.98
    NoTubes Stan's Rim Tape - 10Yds x 21mm $16.48
    NoTubes Stan's Universal Valve Stem MTB 2012 - Universal - 35mm - Pair For MTB $17.85
    2 х Maxxis Aspen 29er Folding Tyre - 29 x 2.1 - 62a/60a - 120tpi $39.86
    Shimano BB71 MTB Press Fit Bottom Bracket $33.31
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 100mm Front Synthetic Lever $27.49
    DT Swiss RWS MTB Steel - 135mm Rear Synthetic Lever $27.49
    Summ = 624,88 USD

    And 3T Doric Team Carbon Seatpost-27.2mm/350mm/white i bought from twohubs - 139.00 USD, because can not find it in any other shops.

    Amount 3300 USD for a dream bike

    I assembled myself all. Only BB and headset adjust master in bike shop.


    BRAVO! Well done!

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    What should be the next upgrade to my 2012 Cobia? I have Wellgo MG-1pedals, Argon GP1 grips, and WTB rocket V SLT seat installed.
    Handle bar next?

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    ^Maybe tubeless, it's going to be my next move, shaves some rolling weight and you can run lower tire pressure

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    2013 Marlin 17.5 - straight from showroom, new pedals added later.

    32.5 lb.

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    yes the wheels are a good place to start but the stock (bonti SSR/Shimano 5025) 29er wheels on my 2011 xcal only weigh 2100gms ur lucky to save 1lb so theres another 5lbs to drop to get down low and its takes some work i just did this to my rig see if you can spot all the upgrades .. gotta run will list them all if ur interested later
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris5107 View Post
    I did not tear it down to the bare frame and my accurate scale only goes up to 2000g.

    My guess is that the frame is not too heavy based on anecdotal comparisons to my old 4900 26er frame.
    hey guys .. im thinking that my 2011 xcal is a heavy frame and i beleive there the same.. i think its the type of aluminum 6061.. year before (2010) was better frame. Ive done so much to mine and it still sits above 25lbs .. everything on these bikes are light

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    yes the wheels are a good place to start but the stock (bonti SSR/Shimano 5025) 29er wheels on my 2011 xcal only weigh 2100gms ur lucky to save 1lb so theres another 5lbs to drop to get down low and its takes some work i just did this to my rig see if you can spot all the upgrades .. gotta run will list them all if ur interested later
    I see one. The USE seatpost. I have one in the exact same color.
    Mongoose Summit Pro
    Gary Fisher Tassajara
    Motobecane Fantom Trail DS
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    Quote Originally Posted by hangdogdaddy38 View Post
    I see one. The USE seatpost. I have one in the exact same color.
    haha yup! its sick the seat mount takes time to get used to but its solid... doesnt allow any creaking at least not on mine..

    heres what i've done:
    USE seat post (super light)
    Rubar emir 250gm seat (this thing is the best seat ive had! last one was selle italia flight)
    XO brakes (awsome)
    bigger back rotor/different front rotor
    SL-K carbon strait bar
    Control tech 80mm carbon stem
    Control tech carbon seatpost clamp
    Brev spacers and KCNC top cap
    Crank brothers foam dual lock grips/different bar end caps
    Blue aluminum rotor bolts
    Sram PC 1091R chain
    Frequency i23 29ers, with dt comps, blue nipples, and blue Hope Pro Evo 2 hubs
    (these things fly wow what a difference in how smooth the hubs are compared to the stock Shimano 5025 hubs there like spining a coffee grinder)( i only saved 145gms on the wheelset the stock xcal wheelset is light!!! but not stiff or smooth if you want lighter go with the i19s)

    I have blue KCNC jockey wheels, blue chainring bolts, blue racelight skewers, and blue cable clips all on route in the mail once its all in I'll post some good pics

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    Hey man thats a light aluminum hartail ... i have a 2011 xcall i got pics and a list of what i did in this thread... i can't figure out how yours is so much lighter then mine (26.5) it has to be the frame .. i cant find the weight for my frame anywhere I know my pedals and crank will lighten it and i could have lost an extra 250gms in my wheel build .. but it still wont come near the 22lbs you have.. i would be real happy with something closer to that... do you see anything im missing? thanks man

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    2012 Cobia weighs in at a gross gross weight of 30.2 lbs.

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    Saddle: Selle Italia
    Pedals: Spank Spike
    Tires: WTB Bronson F/R WTB Stout
    Grips: Ergo

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    Hey man thats a light aluminum hartail ... i have a 2011 xcall i got pics and a list of what i did in this thread... i can't figure out how yours is so much lighter then mine (26.5) it has to be the frame .. i cant find the weight for my frame anywhere I know my pedals and crank will lighten it and i could have lost an extra 250gms in my wheel build .. but it still wont come near the 22lbs you have.. i would be real happy with something closer to that... do you see anything im missing? thanks man
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinklion View Post
    My frame in L size have 1700gramm weight. And weight of my wheelset is 1570gramm.
    my frame (17.5) is propably close to yours and my wheelset is 300gms heavier.. i have lots of really light stuff so it must be my crankset and the entire drivetrain (shifters derailers cassett and BB), tubless, ... my shock, is the reba RL but it came on the bike so not sure if its heavier OEM it says online that its 1575gms thats not heavy for a 100mm shock is it? .. its just that i crunched all the numbers and thats still 4.5lbs to lose with drivetrain and going tubless and when i add up all the listed weights it only comes to 2 lbs in weight loss if i upgrade all that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPGs View Post
    my frame (17.5) is propably close to yours and my wheelset is 300gms heavier.. i have lots of really light stuff so it must be my crankset and the entire drivetrain (shifters derailers cassett and BB), tubless, ... my shock, is the reba RL but it came on the bike so not sure if its heavier OEM it says online that its 1575gms thats not heavy for a 100mm shock is it? .. its just that i crunched all the numbers and thats still 4.5lbs to lose with drivetrain and going tubless and when i add up all the listed weights it only comes to 2 lbs in weight loss if i upgrade all that..
    just looked your fork is 200gms lighter

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