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    Genesis Geometry

    I was test-riding a Fisher Piranha today and realized that the genesis geometry isn't as aggressive as I would have thought. Just curious to other's thoughts on this geometry; I've heard that some don't like it, just wondering why.


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    fit

    alot dont like it because of the fit it gives certain people. if you have short arms and a short torso, the bike feels to stretched because of the longer top tube (genesis is short chain stay and long top tube)
    two six is bet-ta

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    I am 5'10" 215 lbs and I bought a Gary Fisher Piranha about 2 weeks ago. For me the geometry has worked out well. Climbs and handles really well. I have been getting some wicked pain in my hands since I got it though. I think its from the brake levers but I'm not sure. Thus far I'm really digging the genesis geometry.

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    Im 5'10.5" and i ride on a 21" large frame Cake 2dlx and it fits me fine. I do however have long arms for my body height which works out well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Trailrider
    I am 5'10" 215 lbs and I bought a Gary Fisher Piranha about 2 weeks ago. For me the geometry has worked out well. Climbs and handles really well. I have been getting some wicked pain in my hands since I got it though. I think its from the brake levers but I'm not sure. Thus far I'm really digging the genesis geometry.

    I forgot to mention mine is a 17.5' in my previous post.

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    I Agree

    I think Fisher's 'genesis geometry' is the opposite of agressive. I think it has a very relaxed, commuter feel to it.
    Chainstays aren't all that short, the toptube is a bit longer than 'average' and they come stock with freakishly short stems...
    Just add riser bars and your ready for a good rails-to-trails ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    I think Fisher's 'genesis geometry' is the opposite of agressive. I think it has a very relaxed, commuter feel to it.
    Chainstays aren't all that short, the toptube is a bit longer than 'average' and they come stock with freakishly short stems...
    Just add riser bars and your ready for a good rails-to-trails ride.
    Thats just it, it has a longer top tube to place you in a more agressive position, but stock they put shot stems and riser bars on them so i guess that they apeal to everyone figuring that people who ride XC will just replace atleast the stem.

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    Not a Fan of Genesis

    I work in a bike shop which sells exclusively Trek/Fisher/Klein/Lemond bikes. I've tried nearly every bike in both the Trek and Fisher line ups and I have never liked the Genesis Geo. Iíve found the Fisher bikes to be to upright and relaxed. I really like the more aggressive position offered by Trek bikes. Iíll admit that Genesis Geo is much easier to climb with but I never noticed any marked improvements in handling or descents. I find with my customers itís really hit or miss, you either love Genesis or you hate. Go with what feels the most comfortable for you. Good Luck finding your perfect bike.

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    Depends

    Quote Originally Posted by 2inthehole
    alot dont like it because of the fit it gives certain people. if you have short arms and a short torso, the bike feels to stretched because of the longer top tube (genesis is short chain stay and long top tube)
    I'm 5'6" with a 28" inseam and I ride 23"TT bike with a 75mm stem because the old 120mm stem seemed to make my weight swing from side to side in tight corners and above all it seemed like it was more of a turn of the bars with the shorter stem as opposed to the fealing of swinging the bars side to side with the longer bars. That may be because of the fact that my first three bikes were Fishers though .

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    Wish They'd Asked Me Several Years Ago... I said the same thing about fork offset that they are "re-discovering" now. At the same time, I'm not convinced that anyone "forgot" about this factor of geometry and handling. It's just a bottom-line approach to "simplicity" within the industry by the manufacturers.

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    I personally found the genesis geometry suited my riding style. I like it and am purchasing a cake 2 dlx for mtb orienteering. But as mentioned I can see that it wouldn't be for everyone. Thats why I like mtbing, theres something for everyone. from the 'crazed' downhillers and freeriders to xc riders to the weekend warriors and occasional trial riders... all have one thing in common...fun. I have often wondered when our racing on the trails why I would do this to myself, ride 12 to 16 or more kms up the steepest hills and into the darkest valleys. to come out smiling at the other end having clocked up a great time and found that i had once again challanged myself and bettered myself. All for the pure enjoyment of riding. So genesis isn't for you, there is certainly going to be something that is, find it, go forth and put a massive smile on your dial.

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