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    2017 Trek Slash details

    Rumors says 2017 Slash will be a 160mm 29er only (no 27.5), to compete with those new long travel 29ers like BMC Tralfox, Niner WFO and of course Specialized Enduro 29.

    Any info/pisc of the 2017 Slash?

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    Hoping the new Slash turns out to be the "real" replacement for the Remedy 29er that I love so much.
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    There are lot of rumors with it.
    I am hoping for a 160/170 travel bike. Hell Niner has one now. Santa Cruz has one now.
    They even have a 170 27.5+ bike.

    I am hoping it comes in both 27.5 or 29er with at least 160/170 travel.

    and no SRAM brakes
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    There are two spy shots of a 29er in the "What's new for 2017" thread. It's no longer full floater (bottom of the shock is fixed to the frame) and appears to be 1x specific. Very interested in seeing how it ends up materializing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mumphry View Post
    There are two spy shots of a 29er in the "What's new for 2017" thread. It's no longer full floater (bottom of the shock is fixed to the frame) and appears to be 1x specific. Very interested in seeing how it ends up materializing.

    If true., I'l more than likely end up getting a left over 9.8. lots in stock my size
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    Last week CTC (Trek's Israeli dealer) launced 2017 Fuel ex & Remedy line up.
    During the launch event CTC representaives said that the 2017 Slash is a 29er only with a 160mm travel.

    It's a little odd that the Remedy is only 27.5 while the Slash (which is Trek's more agressive/enduro bike) is 29er only...

    I guess we have to wait and see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo6500 View Post
    Last week CTC (Trek's Israeli dealer) launced 2017 Fuel ex & Remedy line up.
    During the launch event CTC representaives said that the 2017 Slash is a 29er only with a 160mm travel.

    It's a little odd that the Remedy is only 27.5 while the Slash (which is Trek's more agressive/enduro bike) is 29er only...

    I guess we have to wait and see...
    Trek i assume didn't like their EWS riders picking the Remedy 29er and added a 160 fork for the races over the bike they built for it, the Slash,.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brent701 View Post
    Trek i assume didn't like their EWS riders picking the Remedy 29er and added a 160 fork for the races over the bike they built for it, the Slash,.
    I agree, It makes sense.

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    Eliminating the smaller wheel size on the Slash is still ludicrous. Making it a 170mm weapon would differentiate it from the bigger wheel size and would fall perfectly in line with it's mission statement. It's almost as if Trek's approach this year was eliminating the most familiar version of as many models as possible, and drastically changing the purpose of every single one. I'm glad they're apparently still making a bike for me (big travel, big wheels), but if I were a 650 rider I'd be pissed right now.
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    Can't wait.. even tho I prob wont be getting one ... my 2016 remedy is barely worn in =)

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    Slash 29

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbcoke View Post
    you are welcome !

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    Whatever that is, it's pretty damn awesome looking.
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    Man - that beast looks burly! Look at how fat the down tube is!


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    I want a bike that color.

    Any bike!

    If it's 160 at both ends, that may be overkill for my needs, but they DO have to make sure there is a significant "step" between it and the new Fuel EX.
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    OMG! It's a beauty. very nice looking bike.
    I think it's the new Slash because:
    1. Upper left corner of the pic says "Slash 29".
    2. All 2017 Remedy line up run PIKE forks, while this one runs Fox 36.
    3. It looks much more burlier than the Remedy, what a massive down tube.

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    No full floater either, unlike the Remedy/Fuel frames. Just like the prototype leaks. I wonder what that boss is on the downtube below the R.

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    Looks like it has that silly "knock-block" as well...

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    The spot on the downtube is probably the location where they attach a zip tie to hold the housing run inside the tube. They do this to keep them from rattling.

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    From zooming-in the pic, I'v spotted Bontrager SE4 tires.
    All Remedies run XR4.

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    The most obvious giveaway that was missed by us all is the deluxe plus shock.
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    I think there may have been confirmation that the Slash will be a 29er if you read between the lines of this article about Rene Wildhaber's 2017 Remedy for the EWS on pinkbike.

    René Wildhaber's Trek Remedy - EWS Round 4, La Thuile, Italy - Pinkbike

    This paragraph sticks out for me...

    ''I always try to ride different bikes and find out the possibilities on those bikes,'' he explained, before going on to say that we could see him on a number of different bikes throughout the year. ''I'll get a 29er again. I was also involved with the development team, so with the final product, I'm always curious to find out how it works.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-X View Post
    The most obvious giveaway that was missed by us all is the deluxe plus shock.
    I don't go off any of the shock mounted to the bikes before they hit the site
    Look at the Trek Remedy video on the Trek site. One or two of the Remedy have a piggy back fox. No Remedy on their site has one

    René Wildhaber's shock is also one we can't get.
    I have even talked to Fox about the shocks. If i sent mine in to have it adjusted to a different level of shock or a trade up.
    They said no. Due to the buying power of Trek and their race support. They get the cool stuff. We don't
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    The chainstay looks like it might be single-ring only. That's about has high as they can get it without the chain rubbing on the top of it going from as low as a 28 in front to the 10t. Pretty thick looking too.

    Bet one of the first things people want to question after experiencing its DH capability, what if you put a dual crown fork on it and see how it does on some real DH courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    The chainstay looks like it might be single-ring only. That's about has high as they can get it without the chain rubbing on the top of it going from as low as a 28 in front to the 10t. Pretty thick looking too.

    Bet one of the first things people want to question after experiencing its DH capability, what if you put a dual crown fork on it and see how it does on some real DH courses.
    oh that's a good thought.
    They are already sticking Fox 36's on the Park Session's
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    I want a bike that color.

    Any bike!
    No upcharge with Project 1, at least if the model is eligible (9.8 and higher usually).
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    Quote Originally Posted by brent701 View Post
    I don't go off any of the shock mounted to the bikes before they hit the site
    Look at the Trek Remedy video on the Trek site. One or two of the Remedy have a piggy back fox. No Remedy on their site has one

    René Wildhaber's shock is also one we can't get.
    I have even talked to Fox about the shocks. If i sent mine in to have it adjusted to a different level of shock or a trade up.
    They said no. Due to the buying power of Trek and their race support. They get the cool stuff. We don't
    Really can't understand this behavior from Trek. For example in the Remedy official page there are plenty of photos of Remedies built with Fox 36 fork and Fox X2 shock while they don't sell even one bike with that build.
    The EWS rider, who is supposed to be the one that makes a lot of great publicity for this type of bike, has a Remedy that isn't purchasable and anyway you can't get the same frame and shock build.
    Absurdly even Fox won't tune a aftermarket damper to fit the frame like the pros.

    The message that comes to me from Trek is "our bikes are great! That great that no one of our athletes are running it with default build"

    Now closing parenthesis

    Hope this new Slash will be purchasable with aluminum frame with a decent price. Here in Europe last year Slahs was just too much expansive compared to other enduro bike. For example the Slash 9 (only for Europe if I'm not wrong) was in sale for 5.149€. Just ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleks11 View Post
    Really can't understand this behavior from Trek. For example in the Remedy official page there are plenty of photos of Remedies built with Fox 36 fork and Fox X2 shock while they don't sell even one bike with that build.
    The EWS rider, who is supposed to be the one that makes a lot of great publicity for this type of bike, has a Remedy that isn't purchasable and anyway you can't get the same frame and shock build.
    Absurdly even Fox won't tune a aftermarket damper to fit the frame like the pros.

    The message that comes to me from Trek is "our bikes are great! That great that no one of our athletes are running it with default build"

    Now closing parenthesis

    Hope this new Slash will be purchasable with aluminum frame with a decent price. Here in Europe last year Slahs was just too much expansive compared to other enduro bike. For example the Slash 9 (only for Europe if I'm not wrong) was in sale for 5.149€. Just ridiculous
    I agree.
    and Yes Europe got a Slash model and color the US didn't and it sucks cause I liked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleks11 View Post
    Really can't understand this behavior from Trek. For example in the Remedy official page there are plenty of photos of Remedies built with Fox 36 fork and Fox X2 shock while they don't sell even one bike with that build.
    The EWS rider, who is supposed to be the one that makes a lot of great publicity for this type of bike, has a Remedy that isn't purchasable and anyway you can't get the same frame and shock build.
    Absurdly even Fox won't tune a aftermarket damper to fit the frame like the pros.

    The message that comes to me from Trek is "our bikes are great! That great that no one of our athletes are running it with default build"

    Now closing parenthesis

    Hope this new Slash will be purchasable with aluminum frame with a decent price. Here in Europe last year Slahs was just too much expansive compared to other enduro bike. For example the Slash 9 (only for Europe if I'm not wrong) was in sale for 5.149€. Just ridiculous
    Annoying, yes, but it's the way of the world.

    This is true for pretty much every professional racing sport that exists. Cars, motorcycles, bikes, skis, you name it.

    The pros always get the special stuff, because winning means big $$$ and/or great marketing.

    I have a little knowledge about this in the motocross world. A KTM 450 SX costs about $9,000. Estimates put Ryan Dungey's championship-winning version at $100,000 minimum, and some claim closer to $200,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    Annoying, yes, but it's the way of the world.

    This is true for pretty much every professional racing sport that exists. Cars, motorcycles, bikes, skis, you name it.

    The pros always get the special stuff, because winning means big $$$ and/or great marketing.

    I have a little knowledge about this in the motocross world. A KTM 450 SX costs about $9,000. Estimates put Ryan Dungey's championship-winning version at $100,000 minimum, and some claim closer to $200,000.
    Yes and No.
    I used to race sport bikes and ATV's I was able to get most of what the Pro's got due to the rules.

    The Trek shock thing is more of a "Trek Sized shock" over say, Intense, Niner, Etc.
    They run a odd sized shock so its hard to just get a better replacement. unlike a Transition or Intense bike
    The Pro's get those shocks due to being a Pro and having Trek behind them
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    Quote Originally Posted by brent701 View Post
    Yes and No.
    I used to race sport bikes and ATV's I was able to get most of what the Pro's got due to the rules.
    Oh, come on, Brent! You were able to get the same equipment as the Yoshimura-equipped WSB teams and/or the HRC Baja racers?

    Nope, you weren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    Oh, come on, Brent! You were able to get the same equipment as the Yoshimura-equipped WSB teams and/or the HRC Baja racers?

    Nope, you weren't.
    If you watch the remedy segment in slo-mo you see a F X2. Yes this is a custom version specific to the pro's...but with metric - I'll put my money that I can guarantee you Trek will spec the Remedy and Slash with it. FX2 or DHX2 who knows but just be patient and chill for a second...we are finally out of the one rear shock option era with Trek...finally!

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    With the move to metric the overall shock size will be the same but the stroke will be specific the trek. No doubt you could purchase an alternative metric shock and use spacers to alter the stroke to what is needed. Same shock, different SKU to account for the different stroke.
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    It might be cool to see the new Ohlins 36 on this bike, but it seems like the big S may have that tied up in terms of OEM?

    Still thinking this bike might be like killing ants with a hammer for most of my riding, but looking forward to details.

    Probably at Trek World, would be my guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    Oh, come on, Brent! You were able to get the same equipment as the Yoshimura-equipped WSB teams and/or the HRC Baja racers?

    Nope, you weren't.

    I said Most.

    I raced 600cc SS class and ATV MX.
    some of the rules in our class were everything had to be over the counter and you were not allowed to upgrade some things. suspension, brakes must remain OEM
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    Quote Originally Posted by brent701 View Post
    I said Most.

    I raced 600cc SS class and ATV MX.
    some of the rules in our class were everything had to be over the counter and you were not allowed to upgrade some things. suspension, brakes must remain OEM
    Right, and I said pros, so my comment that top level pros always have better equipment than us regular guys remains correct.

    Sure, there are stock classes in some motorsports where everybody has to abide by the same equipment restrictions, but the shocks and forks on Justin's and Tracey's Treks have very little in common with what is available to the regular public at any price, and this will always be the case.

    I just don't think that diminishes Trek as a brand in any way, as the previous poster seemed to feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    Right, and I said pros, so my comment that top level pros always have better equipment than us regular guys remains correct.

    Sure, there are stock classes in some motorsports where everybody has to abide by the same equipment restrictions, but the shocks and forks on Justin's and Tracey's Treks have very little in common with what is available to the regular public at any price, and this will always be the case.

    I just don't think that diminishes Trek as a brand in any way, as the previous poster seemed to feel.
    I'm not diminishing Trek at all. If i didn't like them I highly doubt I would spent money on the 20 bikes I have bought and 10 I have sold for them.

    What I was trying to get across was the fact their rear shock measurements suck in mind of wanting to upgrade the rear shock to a different Brand ie. a different fox shock x2, or anything that didn't come on it or Crane Creek. etc
    I can buy a Santa Cruz, Intense, Niner or Transition and get online and buy a shock from almost anyone. Trek's you can't
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    2017 Trek Slash details

    Rumour I just heard is that the slash will be 9.9 only for EWS racing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benyl View Post
    Rumour I just heard is that the slash will be 9.9 only for EWS racing.


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    I've read something like that one week ago on a Italian forum. It seems that the bike is going to have carbon frame only.

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    Thanks for all the info guys. I just wanted to note that the Remedy 29 performs awesomely with a Monarch + Debonair can -- especially when mated with a Pike up front. And SRAM made those available for the Remedy pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    Right, and I said pros, so my comment that top level pros always have better equipment than us regular guys remains correct.
    Depends on what class of racing you're talking about. Some like MotoGP have the unobtainium stuff, yes. And some classes, like AMA super singles have very strict rules as already mentioned by Brent. Reason being is to make if (somewhat cough, cough) affordable for the average joe to get out there and field a privateer team and race alongside pro riders. GNCC is the same way, as are many other classes of moto and ATV racing. It's one of the few forms of grassroots motorsports racing left actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collins View Post
    Thanks for all the info guys. I just wanted to note that the Remedy 29 performs awesomely with a Monarch + Debonair can -- especially when mated with a Pike up front. And SRAM made those available for the Remedy pretty quickly.
    True enough. What model year do you have? I've got the 15, and it is a very good shock, but suffers a bit from excessive high speed compression damping, which SRAM stated was addressed for 16.

    It can be retrofitted by SRAM, but honestly, the Reaktives on both my Fuel EX and Remedy have been so good and so solid this year, that I haven't bothered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collins View Post
    Thanks for all the info guys. I just wanted to note that the Remedy 29 performs awesomely with a Monarch + Debonair can -- especially when mated with a Pike up front. And SRAM made those available for the Remedy pretty quickly.
    I have seen a monarch debonair for remedy 29- I own one, but have NOT seen a monarch plus (piggyback) shock for remedy 29.

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    Really don't understand why they removed full floater.

    top fuel (full floater) ,
    fuel ex (full floater) ,
    remedy (full floater) ,
    slash (no full floater) ,
    session (full floater).....

    They say full floater is better for short to mid travel bikes than what about session?
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    I think removing the full floater on the slash is the first step of removing it on every platform as they mentioned in the interview.

    "Why doesn’t the new Slash use Full Floater?

    We developed Full Floater years ago to address performance constraints associated with the air shocks that were available at that time. Since then, mountain bike shocks have evolved. More dynamic and responsive dampers, along with more refined air springs like EVOL and Debonair, offer the performance benefits our engineers sought to achieve with Full Floater. Using a fixed lower shock mount opens up the lower frame area, giving us more opportunity to design stronger, stiffer frames and chainstays. This also gives us more flexibility to accommodate larger, more capable shocks. All of these effects are experienced most dramatically on long travel bikes, like the Slash."


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    Really don't understand why they removed full floater.

    top fuel (full floater) ,
    fuel ex (full floater) ,
    remedy (full floater) ,
    slash (no full floater) ,
    session (full floater).....

    They say full floater is better for short to mid travel bikes than what about session?

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    Yeah, I think (air) shocks are so good now that the cons of the full floater - weight and packaging - outweigh the benefits.

    Back on topic, the new slash looks wicked, and I imagine it is going to be an absolute monster truck of a bike.

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    WOOMP, THERE IT IS! I'm super-impressed... This looks like quite the Speed Weapon.

    Love the shorter chainstays (though I was hoping for sub 17"(430) length.

    I'm happy they fully optimized around no-front-derailleur. I think the additional frame stiffness and wheel travel were worth it.

    I'm VERY happy it's 150/160 travel... That should be plenty for some real speed!

    I'm glad they skipped +Size compatibility... I think they covered that ground with the EX and they certainly don't need it here.

    Anything that you all think is missing?

    I even like the color...


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    are 2017 Sessions out yet? Could be heading the way of no floater going by this bike?

    Pretty bummed its a $7k bike tho for 9.8, I thought $6k was steep for my 9.8 remedy (in AUD) But its super well spec'd

    Looks fast in pictures, and sounds fast on paper.
    I wonder what it will climb like compared to a 2015-16 remedy?

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