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    2014 Remedy 650b

    Thought I'd start up a new thread for these. I really want one and ideally I'd like to have a proper test ride but it would mean a few hours drive just to get to the test trail. Therefore I'd like to know/hear what people think of them if they actually own, or have ridden one.

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    I have been riding my 2014 Trek Remedy 8 650b for a couple of months now and love it. I was actually set on buying a Santa Cruz Bronson or 5010, loved the way the 5010 climbed and how the Bronson descends. My local dealer had a Remedy that I took for a spin and was sold. It climbs awesome and flies downhill. For me it was the best of both worlds.

    My previous bikes were a 2006 SC Heckler and a Giant XTC 2 29er. Both have been sold and the Remedy will be my only bike. 140mm of travel is perfect for the trails in my area.

    I made a couple of changes so far. Added wider bars (780mm), short stem (50mm), Maxxis High Roller II tubeless tires, and converted to 1x10 (33t RaceFace chainring and MRP direct mount guide). I plan on adding a dropper post at some point, otherwise its pretty dialed in.

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    What size is your remedy? I am 5"10 and am considering ordering a 18.5 remedy 7

    I was looking at the Slash 650 but think the remedy might be a better do it all bike for Super D, Enduro and some DH. I am actually looking for a 18.5 in Cali


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    I have been riding my 2014 Trek Remedy 8 650b for a couple of months now and love it. I was actually set on buying a Santa Cruz Bronson or 5010, loved the way the 5010 climbed and how the Bronson descends. My local dealer had a Remedy that I took for a spin and was sold. It climbs awesome and flies downhill. For me it was the best of both worlds.

    My previous bikes were a 2006 SC Heckler and a Giant XTC 2 29er. Both have been sold and the Remedy will be my only bike. 140mm of travel is perfect for the trails in my area.

    I made a couple of changes so far. Added wider bars (780mm), short stem (50mm), Maxxis High Roller II tubeless tires, and converted to 1x10 (33t RaceFace chainring and MRP direct mount guide). I plan on adding a dropper post at some point, otherwise its pretty dialed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eruizela View Post
    What size is your remedy? I am 5"10 and am considering ordering a 18.5 remedy 7

    I was looking at the Slash 650 but think the remedy might be a better do it all bike for Super D, Enduro and some DH. I am actually looking for a 18.5 in Cali

    It's a 19.5", I'm 6' and it fits like a glove.

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    Thanks for the reply. I'm currently riding a 2013 Rumblefish Elite, which is a lovely bike but I want something a bit more playful now, & I'm sold on the 650b Remedy 8.
    I went to sit on one today (no test track nearby, just a car park) but the shop didn't have any in stock, and now I don't know what size to go for. I'm 6'1 and was considering the 21" frame (as is my Rumblefish) as I quite like the slight "oversize" feel.

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    I think the Remedy's fit a little smaller than the Rumblefish, so you would be wise to stick with the same size, if that's what you like. The Chainstays will be shorter than your 'fish, and the wheels won't roll over stuff as well on the 650B, so if you sized smaller, you may feel too "over the front". The smaller wheels and shorter chain stays alone will make the bike feel very playful in comparison to your 'fish.

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    2014 Remedy 650b

    Question; anyone out there fit a 150mm or even a 160mm fork on a 650b Remedy? If so how is it in terms of geo and balance?

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    I was considering a fuel ex9 and arranged a demo, fortunately they didn't have one and ended taking out a 650 remedy 9 - absolutely awesome. Great in the technical stuff, good in the air and a really good climber.

    Stuck trying to justify the hefty uplift in price from the 8, the xt spec really felt sharp and the dropper post really worked, not used one before. Think i am convincing myself on this one...

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    I test rode the Remedy 9 650b in the store only. I love the feel, ride, and how quick it felt. I may be selling my Fuel 8 to get it because the price is so steep and I just paid off my Superfly 100 Al Elite. I also test rode the Slash 9 650b a bit of over kill for Colorado Springs, Co but still would love a Slash. The Remedy 9 with pedals in a 17.5 weighed in at 30lbs. I couldn't believe that the Slash is almost a pound lighter but it does have that awesome Sram drive train on it. The Remedy feels like it would be an awesome bike to have in anyone's stable. If I don't go after the 9 I really like the color of the 7 and have heard mixed reviews about the Revelation that is on the Remedy 7. I want them both....lol
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    First impressions 2014 Remedy 9.8 27.5/650b

    I was looking for something a little more trail-oriented than my 100mm travel 29er. After testing several 27.5” bikes I found a nearby Trek dealer who had just received a Remedy 9.8 demo bike. Rented it for a day so I could take in on trails I was used to riding, and I was sold! The handling was sharper than my 29er, and the increased travel was much appreciated. The only negative was that the wheel/tire combo was heavier than that on my 29er (by ~2 lb!) which made it feel a little more sluggish despite the smaller wheel size. However, I figured this could be “remedied” with aftermarket wheels and lighter, tubeless tires. The 19.5” demo bike weighed 29 lb without pedals.

    Trek didn’t have a 19.5” 9.8 on inventory in Wisconsin, but the area rep found one in a warehouse that my dealer could buy. The shop agreed to swap the wheels and tires and to replace the XT 2x10 crank with a 3x10 so I could run 24/32 chainrings. Decided to go with the new Industry 9 27.5” Trail 32-spoke wheels: light weight (~1500g), 23.4mm inner width, and incredible 3° engagement (120poe). Exchanged the 705g 2.35 Team Issue XR3 tires for the 635g 2.20 size - I was willing to sacrifice a bit of grip and cushion for less rotating mass. I swapped Fizik Gobi XM saddle and Ergon grips from my other bike and added a Bontrager Sideswipe RL bottle cage due to restricted area for water bottle. Final bike weighed 27.0 lb on the shop scale (without pedals).

    I’ve only had it on four rides, but I’m lovin’ it. Much prefer it to previous bikes on all trails. Trek must have spec’d a special fork offset because the handling is very sharp for a 68° head angle (I haven’t tired switching the mino link to the slacker 67.5° angle). The fork and shock were easy to set up and absorb big bumps better than anything I’ve tried. I don’t miss the larger 29”-wheel rollover at all. The 9.8 doesn’t have the high end Kashima fork or shock, but the CTD settings are handy and the suspension works well. I like how the bike climbs (to the extent that I like climbing) - feedback and traction are good and it seems efficient with little bob (I even climb in Descend mode when it’s rough). The descending is in another league compare to my 100mm travel 29er. The extra travel eats up larger hits, the rigid 34mm fork is confidence inspiring, and the wheels feel plenty stiff. Oh yes, the wheels - the I9s really liven up the bike! They are noticeably faster spinning up and handling due to the reduced rotational mass and 2 lb less unsprung weight. They make a good bike great.

    No trail pix yet but here are a couple of shots in the front yard. (note: I had to spec red spokes to get 32 instead of 24 as black 32-spoke wheelsets were not yet available. I was worried that the red might be too flashy, but they look OK plus I don’t notice from the cockpit.)






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    Levity- great looking bike. I'm in the market for a remedy 9.8 but unsure of size. I'm 6 with a 32 inch inseam and long arms. I had a 2012 slash 9 in a 19.5 but sold it. Cockpit was too tight and I could not find a 21.5 frame. How does the cockpit feel for your size?

    I tested a remedy 7 in the parking lot of my lbs. I rode a 19.5 and 21.5. I liked the cockpit of the 21.5, but the 19.5 felt a tad more lively. 19.5 cockpit felt ok, but bit tight.

    Does anyone know what the disadvantages of riding a slightly bigger frame?

    Thanks in advance.

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    It will be more stable but less flickable.

    I am also 6ft and I had a 19.5 (18.5 actual) Fuel EX 26er and it was just perfect. Now I switched to a Medium Giant Reign SX and for the type of riding the SX is designed for the M feels much better.

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    Hobbs,

    I agree with Paris' assessment. I'm 6', 33" inseam, 34" sleeve, and the 19.5" effective size feels spot on with the stock 80mm stem. The front end doesn't tend to lift up on steep climbs, and I may even go down to a 70mm stem. I don't feel the need for any additional stability that a longer wheelbase might offer. I think a 21.5" frame would be way too much bike on the trail for me - just more to push around, especially on tight turns.

    I'm surprised that you found the cockpit on a 19.5" Slash too tight, but maybe your longer torso and arms require more room. Parking lot impressions can be misleading - you really need to take a bike(s) out on the type of terrain you ride to find out what works best. On the trail you'll probably ride more aggressively with you elbows bent more which requires a smaller cockpit. If demos are not an option play with the seat position, stem length and height, bar width, and try to ride in the "attack position" even in the parking lot- all these affect cockpit feel.

    Take the time and make the effort to get the right fit whether it's a 19.5" or 21.5" size. Given your experience with the Slash, you may turn out to be more comfortable with 21.5" frame, seat forward, and a shorter 50-60mm stem.

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    Treks run small. I used to have a 19" remedy, now I have a 21" remedy with shorter stem-- I'll never go back!

    I'm 6' even, long legs, short arms.

    IMHO, anything over a 70mm stem will not give you the stability and confidence that this bike is capable of.

    I've used mine for 50mi backcountry epic rides with my buddies on xc rigs, and I've got 6 days of enduro racing on it in 2013. Love it.

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    Sorry but Trek Remedy 19.5 with 61.8cm effective top tube runs small? And a 1.83cm (6ft) needs a 21.5 with 64.6cm top tube? Check the geometry here

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    It is always a matter of preference but I disagree.

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    Pay more attention to stack and reach. Eff top tube becomes less informative when the seat tube is not continuous-- ie, it has a dramatic rearward angle above the suspension pivot-- this can inflate the more traditional eff top tube measurement.

    I'm 6' even. Long legs (saddle height 785mm from bb to top of saddle) and short arms.

    in the last 3 years, I have owned a 19" superfly hardtail, a 19" Top Fuel, a 19 SF100, a 21" SF100, a 19" Remedy, and 21 Remedy. I have raced every single one of these bikes multiple times, whether in cat 1 xc, 50 milers, or enduros.

    i'll never go back to the smaller frame in trek. I'd also tell people that want to descend aggressively-- err on a bike that's a bit too big with shorter stem, rather than the other way around.

    Even the 650b Remedy reviewed in Bike mag's bible of bike tests edition (last month?) mentioned that their bike felt a bit small compared to other brands of equal size.

    If the OP was looking for opinions and experience, there's mine, for what it's worth.

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    So the biggest available size in Trek Remedy line is perfect for a 6 ft rider with long legs, short torso and arms? Which means for someone who has the upper body of a shorter person. What about taller riders or riders with a more balanced body? Or even riders with long torso and arms? Isn't there any Remedy size for them?

    I suppose you know that you shouldn't correct wrong sizes with longer or shorter stems etc. Yes you can use a combination of shorter stem and wider bar to have better control (I use a 50mm stem with a 780 riser bar) but it doesn't make much sense to go on a bigger size only because you want a shorter stem. In your case however it would make sense only because of your long inseam.

    Sorry my friend it is your opinion and experience and I respect it but I just disagree.

    PS. No need to start mentioning how many bikes I have (had), what I do etc.

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    My body dimensions are a bit freakish, I suppose-- no disagreement there

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    Thanks guys for all the advise. After doing some research (and your opinions) I think I'll settle for a 19.5 frame. As much as the cockpit of the 21.5 frame was roomy, I'm afraid I'd lose control on tight turns or technical sections. I say this because on my 19.5 fuel ex8, I feel confident on the trail and the 21.5 remedy had a different feel, although the extra room was nice.

    Now I just have to order the bike and wait and wait and wait and wait until it comes in.

    Thanks again all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris Galanis View Post
    So the biggest available size in Trek Remedy line is perfect for a 6 ft rider with long legs, short torso and arms?
    FWIW, JHK is riding a 21.5" Remedy 9.8 and he is listed at 6'1" in height. He has always rode Treks in an XL size. I think Trek assumes bigger riders will go with the Remedy 29er that has a 23" size. I am 5'11" and went with a 19.5 in a 9.8, but debated going with a 21" It all depends on how much you like to be over the front wheel vs behind it, as well as how upright vs "long and low" you like to be on the bike. The Remedy's are a bit short coming from an XC bike. Sizing via the internet is always a gamble and it is best to try and ride both sizes (with the appropriate stem swap) if you can. I agree that you can't fit the wrong size bike with a long or short stem, but many people have more than 1 "right" size bike with the stem length adjusted properly. A bike with a longer wheelbase might be easier for climbing in that it will be easier to position your weight between the wheels better to maintain traction on the rear wheel (ex, if you stand up, you won't have to focus on keeping you weight on the rear wheel quite as much).

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    Remedy isn't a XC bike and there is no need to ride it as one. Even Trek lists it as a technical trail and enduro bike and in my opinion it is supposed to be agile and flickable and I doubt that a 21 for someone 1.83 cm (6ft) will be the best option but it is just me.

    Also I really don't understand what roomy cockpit means. I prefer my house to be roomy but I prefer my bike to have the perfect fit.

    Anyway it all comes down to personal taste so there is no need to keep arguing about it.

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    Kdiddy - thanks for the insight.

    Paris - when I say "roomy", it's meant as my knees are not cramp so close to the handle bars as I pedal. The 19.5 frame, my knees are about 5.5 inches away. On the 21.5 frame, I have about 7 inches of room between my knees and handle bar. Not to mention I am very "upright" on the 19.5 frame. I am more stretched out on the 21.5 frame, which I would shorten the stem a bit to "straighten" up a little. Hope this helps clear a little bit up regarding my term "roomy".

    But thank you all for the opinions, experiences and advice. All of what was offered to me was heavily weighted in my decision for a 19.5 frame. Now it's time to wait and receive the bike and just ride the crap out of it!

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    Good choice and great bike. Enjoy!

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    I think I'm leaning more towards a 21" frame (I'm 6'1), for the same reasons as Hobbs305. I've just got to sell my Rumblefish first, & then I'll be placing the order.
    Happy riding! & Don't forget to post some pictures up!

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    Okay, so help me out here, I am about to buy a remedy either 650 or 29r and can't decide which, currently ride a rush converted to 650b with relaxed (angleset) head angle, like it but want more travel etc...

    Anyways read this on a review of the 29r when first released:

    Why Not 650B?

    There is no doubt in our minds that the new Remedy would be readily accepted by more riders had Trek decided to design the bike around 650B wheels. This fact isn't lost on the Wisconsin brand, and they conceded that they have been testing numerous different 29'' and 650B-wheeled platforms for some time, including the 29er DH mule from a few years ago that is pictured at right (no, Trek is not pursuing the bike shown). When it came time to make the call as to what wheel size to go with for the new Remedy, Trek felt that the 29er version was simply a better bike, knowing full well that there would be more consumer resistance than if they had gone with the 'tweener wheels.
    So, does that mean that trek think the 29r is a "better" (for what, I guess is the question) bike or is all the talk just marketing BS.

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    Just BS like the following. Just get the one that fits you better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Freediver View Post
    Okay, so help me out here, I am about to buy a remedy either 650 or 29r and can't decide which, currently ride a rush converted to 650b with relaxed (angleset) head angle, like it but want more travel etc...

    Anyways read this on a review of the 29r when first released:



    So, does that mean that trek think the 29r is a "better" (for what, I guess is the question) bike or is all the talk just marketing BS.

    Yours in confusion, dave.
    When that quote came out, the 650B bikes were not out. I had a chance to ride both back to back, and the 29er does roll over stuff better than the 650B, and it still very nimble, without much of a weight penalty over the 650B. I ended up going with a 650B 9.8, but if there was a 29er 9.8, I'm not sure i would have made the same decision. Part of it my decision was to try something different than what I already had / have. I have a 29er hardtail, and had a Superfly 100 AL before the Remedy. Time will tell if I made the right choice, since the trails are still covered in snow here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ready805 View Post
    Thought I'd start up a new thread for these. I really want one and ideally I'd like to have a proper test ride but it would mean a few hours drive just to get to the test trail. Therefore I'd like to know/hear what people think of them if they actually own, or have ridden one.
    I absolutely love my Trek Remedy 9.8 650.
    I came from riding 29ers for about 7 years. I was going to buy another 29er and demoed a few ,but decided to try the 650 Remedy at the last minute . I noticed immediately that 27.5 was more flickable and agile and I was having more fun, what really surprises me about the Remedy is it feels like a short travel bike that is small but acts like a long travel bike that can take big hits and jumps too.

    I am not crazy about the colors of the bike and I can see why this Remedy may not be a big seller for Trek because of the lack of Bling and the travel in the suspension is 140mm, But don't tell the bike that, it has no bling and a bit short travel for an enduro bike it thinks it can play with the bigger travel bikes just fine if not better , I thought about increasing the travel to 150 but had to ask myself what for ? Just because most other bikes in this class have more travel. Not a good reason. And I am sure Trek has spend endless hours researching why this bike is set up at 140mm of travel. I have left this bike bone stock and ride it 3 times a week for the last 4 months. Every time I ride it I tell myself you really don't need to do anything to this bike to make it better it simple just works and works very well out of the box. I thought about making it a 1x11 but I have only dropped the chain twice and this shifter taking space on the bar is not that big of a deal.

    What is shocking to me is most people over look this bike and go right to the Slash probably because it has more travel. I am so happy I took the time to demo this bike, I had my eyes set on a Piviot Mach 6 but could not get my hands on one to demo I am reading great things about the Piviot but I still think it would feel like a bigger bike which is the complete opposite feel of the Remedy at times the Remedy feels like a pump track bike with 5 inches of travel. Another great feature about the Trek is the Trek Care Plus I have already used it twice and have not paid a dime for parts or service.

    I knew the warranty on the Pivot would not come close to the service I was going to get from Trek and my local dealer . With the Remedy I am covered for 3 years on wear besides tires and brake pads and Lifetime warranty on the frame. Thats a huge deal for me.

    Again I am kind of shocked more people are not talking about this bike .
    But when I really stand back and look at all the other bikes in this category I can see this Remedy would not be my first choice with all these other flashy bikes and long travel suspensions.

    But I am so glade I took this Remedy for a test ride.

    I get my reality check with the Pro at the shop who has the same bike as me and he tells me don't mess with it just ride it the way it is. If a pro is telling me that its good enough for him then its over the top for me. I just need to learn how to ride better the bike can handle anything or more that I can throw at it.

    Hope you find the perfect bike for you.

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    The Remedy is a great bike but Slash is better in my opinion for AM use. Also I don't believe that going down to 140mm of travel was a result of tests only but also a marketing decicion since it wouldn't make much sense to have Remedy with 150mm and Slash with 160mm. Now they have Fuel with 120mm (not happy with this decrease either), Remedy with 140mm and Slash with 160mm.

    Regardless of the above all 3 bicycles are really great but of I was more in the AM / Enduro phase I would also go straight to Slash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris Galanis View Post
    The Remedy is a great bike but Slash is better in my opinion for AM use. Also I don't believe that going down to 140mm of travel was a result of tests only but also a marketing decicion since it wouldn't make much sense to have Remedy with 150mm and Slash with 160mm. Now they have Fuel with 120mm (not happy with this decrease either), Remedy with 140mm and Slash with 160mm.

    Regardless of the above all 3 bicycles are really great but of I was more in the AM / Enduro phase I would also go straight to Slash.
    Yep thats what most riders are doing going straight after the Slash not even considering the Remedy. Why ? My guess is more travel more of an all mountain bike and a few other reasons. A high percentage will not even take the time to compare or demo the two bikes.

    If you demoed the Remedy and Slash then you know what works best for your riding style. And we all like to praise are choices. If you haven't tried the Remedy then you really don't know if its better for You.

    If you talk with a Trek Rep there is way more behind the Remedy's 140 suspension length then just splitting the difference between bike models for sales . According to Trek its more about the wheel size (27.5) and the geometry and what they wanted from the Remedy that is why they went with 140mm and few other reasons I was told.

    You can take the stock Fox fork and increase to 150 mm easiliy if you want. I spoke with Trek rep and the pro rider and they really didn't think it was a good idea and gave me a good explanation why I might want to keep it at 140mm.

    I to get caught up in all the enduro and all mountain hype too, but there is no reason for me to increase the suspension this bike takes the big rock gardens and jumps with my friends who are on longer travel bikes.

    I knew I didn't want an aluminum bike that is a big reason I didn't even try the Slash.
    Maybe I would like the Slash even more then my Remedy.

    I can't comment on which is better for me until I ride each one on the same trail with the same tires.
    I have the opportunity to try a Slash this weekend if I do I will share my thoughts on the two bikes.

    I think the Remedy will go anywhere the Slash will go and do it better in some areas and the Slash will have its advantages too.

    Bottom line the Remedy will be overlooked and by passed because of the Slash by most riders.

    To say the Remedy is not an all mountain bike without taking it out might be a bit of buyers mistake.
    I demoed allot of 150 & 160 bikes and the Remedy was a total sleeper at 140mm.
    I only tried the Remedy because my riding partner loves his and the pro rider from the shop has one too and loves it. Glade I did.

    Yes I agree all these bikes are really great.

    Reviewers need to try more bikes before they put their opinions out there.
    So many great bikes out there and not one is perfect for everyone.
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    If you are happy then that's all that counts.

    Personally I believe that bigger wheels have their advantages but I don't like the fact that they grow in expense of the travel. So if many people move straight to Slash maybe it is because they see it as the logical next step following the previous Remedy since the Slash has both bigger wheels and travel.

    On the other side I agree that it is a mistake to skip bikes without even trying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris Galanis View Post
    If you are happy then that's all that counts.

    Personally I believe that bigger wheels have their advantages but I don't like the fact that they grow in expense of the travel. So if many people move straight to Slash maybe it is because they see it as the logical next step following the previous Remedy since the Slash has both bigger wheels and travel.

    On the other side I agree that it is a mistake to skip bikes without even trying them.

    I agree, Paris, that the Remedy isnt exactly an xc oriented bike. However, the geometry isnt too far off with the chip in the 68* HTA setting. I think that some people, myself included, are looking for a full suspension bike that can do everything, comes with a dropper post with internal routing etc. I am relatively short at 5'9'' but have long arms and long legs. I also prefer to have a 'roomy' i.e. stretched out/long top tube/whatever as I am used to a 29er xc bike. I tested both an 18.5 and the 19.5 and the 19.5 is clearly better for me even though I am short. I think it is reasonable to orient this bike towards xc given that there really arent many options out there with less travel in the 650b wheel size.

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    What size stem does the medium frame come with? Im 5'5 and a half. Trying to decide between small and medium. Going to demo a medium tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanWilliams1783 View Post
    What size stem does the medium frame come with? Im 5'5 and a half. Trying to decide between small and medium. Going to demo a medium tomorrow
    75mm

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    Remedy 9.8 report

    I was looking for a new MTB to replace a couple of older 26" bikes (GT 2.0 and Trek Fuel 900) that do not have the slack geometry that everyone has these days. I ride in Nor Cal ( Santa Cruz mtn area) where there is a lot of climbing. I have ridden a lot in the Truckee (Lake Tahoe area El 6,500- 9,000). Typical rides climb 1,500-3,000' over 12-20 miles. I'm 50+ and have been MTB ing for 20+ years and ride a KTM 300 XCW in the mountains and a few cross country races.

    I don't do big jumps because I rather push it with motocross gear on on my dirt bike so I figured that 140mm of travel would be fine.

    I demoed the latest Specialized Camber 29er, Ibis Ripley with longer and beefier forks and a few others. I was planning on demoing the SC 5010 and Bronson as well as a Remedy 9.x and the Scott Spark or Genius (I like the remote control of the CTD settings idea) but I found a great deal on on Remedy 9.8 that I grabbed.

    I am 5'11" 205 with a 34 inseam measured with a clipboard (I wear 32 inseam pants).

    In order to get the deal I got a 18.5" frame. I sat on a 19.5" but it stretched me out a bit and I figured that if I could not make the 18.5 fit, I could sell the bike for what I paid.

    I had to switch out the seat post for a longer one thanks to an exchange with kdiddy on this forum. I need 11" of length on the post showing. I also need the seat almost all the way back which adds to the already slack seat tube angle. The stock seat flexed too much in that position so I used my WTB seat from my other bike. It is 3/4 " taller and more ridged. My seat to bar drop is 3.5 " and I might get a riser bar but I don't want anymore twitchyness on the steering.

    I used a great iPhone app that everyone should try: "Bike Fast Fit" $2.99 to help fit the bike.

    I have ridden the bike about 10 times on very rocky downhills, (Santa Theresa /Stiles Ranch Rocky Ridge) and on smooth flowing downhills (Emma McCrary, Pogonip, UCSC, and rolling single track (Long Ridge trail, upper Pogonip) and this bike rocks! I am barreling through rock sections both while climbing and downhill that I would walk on the steeper angled 26 ers. I am taking jumps that I never would have before.

    I absolutely use the nimble steering that 650b has over the 29er I tried on technical climbs and picking my way through rocky sections.

    It feels light and climbs very well although it is 30 lbs. The 2X10 gearing is 6% taller in the granny gear from a 3x10. I use the granny gear for a lot of the climbs and thought I would need to go with the 3x10 but I have adapted just fine. It is noticeable but not enough to change anything.

    I experimented with different settings for the fork and shock and found that when standing up on a steep climb, the fork bounces in the T mode so I use the C mode unless it's rocky or not steep enough to require standing up.

    Sometimes I wish that I could have a remote control of the fork and shock settings. I called Fox and they can mod the fork and just started the ability to mod the shock for the remote control but it's $250 for the shock due to the components that need changing.

    The shock feels very linear even near full travel - I think that is due to the the Trek customized DRCV but I don't have a comparison.

    There is creaking on climbing from the front bearings or the bar - not sure yet.

    I really like the looks and that is important so you really just love to get the bike out of the garage.

    All in all this is a great bike and it offers excellent components but more importantly it is greater than the sum of the parts. Buy one with confidence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by piersurf View Post
    I have been riding my 2014 Trek Remedy 8 650b for a couple of months now and love it. I was actually set on buying a Santa Cruz Bronson or 5010, loved the way the 5010 climbed and how the Bronson descends. My local dealer had a Remedy that I took for a spin and was sold. It climbs awesome and flies downhill. For me it was the best of both worlds.

    My previous bikes were a 2006 SC Heckler and a Giant XTC 2 29er. Both have been sold and the Remedy will be my only bike. 140mm of travel is perfect for the trails in my area.

    I made a couple of changes so far. Added wider bars (780mm), short stem (50mm), Maxxis High Roller II tubeless tires, and converted to 1x10 (33t RaceFace chainring and MRP direct mount guide). I plan on adding a dropper post at some point, otherwise its pretty dialed in.

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    Can I ask exactly what you had to do to go with 1x10 conversion? I'm currently looking at the Rem 8 and 9, but really like the 9, but not the price difference, even though I was offered 4200 OTD today.

    Thank you! Your bike looks awesome!

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    anyone have this bike that lives where the trails are pretty flat? How does the seat tube angle effect pedaling for long distances? This might be to much bike then I need around here. Just curious if anyone is useing this for XC riding

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    Good question. I'd say that just over half of my riding will be more XC orientated, with the rest of the riding being done on various weekends away at trail centres etc.
    What's it like to ride on flatter trails?

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    Remedy seat tube angle

    I had the same concerns about the seat tube angle. However, the 67.5/68.1° angle listed in the 2014 Remedy geometry table is misleading because the seat tube is not straight. The lower section of the seat tube (apx. 7") is more vertical to provide rear wheel clearance, and then it slants backward at the listed angle. For this reason the "effective seat tube angle" depends on how high you extend the seat/seatpost. The effective angle will always be steeper than 68° due to the offset.

    You really need to ride the Remedy with the seat adjusted to your preferred height to determine whether the effective angle is what you like. At my inseam length of 33" on a 19.5" frame I found that the effective angle was just right (probably somewhere around 71° comparing it to other bikes I've ridden). I assume that Trek designed the slack angle so that the seat would end up in the right place for the typical rider on a given frame size. (Moving the seat up or back or using an offset seatpost will also affect the effective angle.)

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    If you are riding flatter trails and longer distances you owe it to yourself to ride a hard tail. While the Remedy Climb mode settings are very effective for cranking on the flats or up hills, the direct drive and light weight of a HT are almost intoxicating. If you go with a 29er HT the tires provide some suspension for the downhills and you still have the fork for bump absorption.

    Once I got the 9.8 FS I started riding more trails that had technical climbs and sick downhills because the bikes does so well on those.

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    My wife just picked up a 9.9 650b. Anyone get tubeless rim strips for the 650b rhythm elite wheels? Our shop couldn't find asymmetric strips (offset spoke bed)

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    I have the rim strips. They are not asymmetric. They are the only 650B rim strips that Trek sells. Part Number 433382 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    My wife just picked up a 9.9 650b. Anyone get tubeless rim strips for the 650b rhythm elite wheels? Our shop couldn't find asymmetric strips (offset spoke bed)

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    I have the 2014 9.8 Remedy I bought the Bontrager rim strips and valve stems so I could go tubeless from my local Trek store, I have had no problems they work great and fit like a glove on the rims. One discovery I found was I just bought a X4 team issue tire for the front and to get the old X3 tire off was really hard. I was thinking if I ever get a flat on the trail its going to be really hard to get the tire off the bead to put a tube in it. Its ridiculously tight seal . I would pack some kind of tool to break that bead unless you have gorilla grip hands to break the bead off the rim .

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    In my experience, bontrager rim strips have always been tight. Bummer, frustrating. My wife doesn't have gorilla hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark59 View Post
    One discovery I found was I just bought a X4 team issue tire for the front and to get the old X3 tire off was really hard. I was thinking if I ever get a flat on the trail its going to be really hard to get the tire off the bead to put a tube in it. Its ridiculously tight seal . I would pack some kind of tool to break that bead unless you have gorilla grip hands to break the bead off the rim .
    This was my experience as well.

    2.35 XR4 650b and 2.35 XR3 650b did not play nicely with my Sun Ringle wheels. I actually broke a tire lever trying to mount.

    My concern was the same as yours... I'd hate to be on the side of the trail and trying to unmount/mount with a tube to fix a flat and get home. I returned the XR4 for a Schwalbe Hans Dampf and the XR3 for a Kenda Honey Badger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    This was my experience as well.

    2.35 XR4 650b and 2.35 XR3 650b did not play nicely with my Sun Ringle wheels. I actually broke a tire lever trying to mount.

    My concern was the same as yours... I'd hate to be on the side of the trail and trying to unmount/mount with a tube to fix a flat and get home. I returned the XR4 for a Schwalbe Hans Dampf and the XR3 for a Kenda Honey Badger.
    In your experience-- is it the Bontrager XR3/4 tires or Bontrager rim that make it "extra tight"? IE, do the Hans Dampf and Kenda tires fit more easily (install and removal) on the bontrager 650b rims?

    If that's the case, I'll get the wife some different tires pronto.

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    Yes.

    The Schwalbe mounted the easiest, the Bonty's the hardest. The Geax, Vee Rubber and Kenda were somewhere in-between.

    To be fair, the Kenda seems to have loosened up a bit since mounted. The Bonty's were very, very tight.

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    I ran into a guy with a flat on the trail with a new Fuel ex 7 and he was having a hard time getting the tire back on the rim. He said the guy in the LBS had told him they were tough to get on and off. I have a Superfly FS 8 and had a hard time getting the Bontrager tire off the rim the first time I got a flat but since then it seems to have loosened up and it's been relatively easy to change tubes since.

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    [QUOTE=rfxc;11041517]In my experience, bontrager rim strips have always been tight. Bummer, frustrating. My wife doesn't have gorilla hands.

    The rim strips were easy to put on . Taking the tire off is another story. I don't have strong hands either. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanWilliams1783 View Post
    What size stem does the medium frame come with? Im 5'5 and a half. Trying to decide between small and medium. Going to demo a medium tomorrow
    Any update? I'm on the same height and lbs only have 19.5 for deMo, tested at parking lot and the 19.5 doesn't feel too much for my height 5'5" 1/2, the shop rep recommend the 17.5 for me but really want to be sure it's the right one for me, need help here, thanks...

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