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    2013 Trek Superfly AL Elite (pics)



    You're all well jell of how good my bike shed looks.

    Just some glory shots at the moment, because it's a gorgeous bike!! It arrived today, spent the afternoon putting it together, which is why it is so clean next to my 2012 Fuel Ex 9, as it got well dark before I could ride it, so I'll have to wait until the morning to take her for a spin.

    Mean while, I'll show off some happy snaps of her.






    So new I haven't even had a chance to take the reflectors off (cable routing wasn't even completed in the last shot, not tyres infalted). Also, tyre pressures haven't been checked, I use a compressor, but the gauge on the hose seems to have died so having to inflate them then get a release gauge and bring them back down.

    Have some Maxxis tyres on the way over as well, but seeing how the Bontrager 29-1's that came with it go, a lot of dry hardpack out here, but I suspect they'll be a little skatey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    You're all well jell of how good my bike shed looks.

    Just some glory shots at the moment, because it's a gorgeous bike!! It arrived today, spent the afternoon putting it together, which is why it is so clean next to my 2012 Fuel Ex 9, as it got well dark before I could ride it, so I'll have to wait until the morning to take her for a spin.

    Mean while, I'll show off some happy snaps of her.

    So new I haven't even had a chance to take the reflectors off (cable routing wasn't even completed in the last shot, not tyres infalted). Also, tyre pressures haven't been checked, I use a compressor, but the gauge on the hose seems to have died so having to inflate them then get a release gauge and bring them back down.

    Have some Maxxis tyres on the way over as well, but seeing how the Bontrager 29-1's that came with it go, a lot of dry hardpack out here, but I suspect they'll be a little skatey.
    Thank you very much for uploading these! I have ordered one (due in 10/10/2012 ) but was really unsure on the colour, this is helpign to convince me!

    Quick queastion what comes in the box with the bike please?

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    The box comes with the flat packed bike, front and rear reflectors, a bell (not kidding), Trek Owner's Information handbook + DVD, tapered sealed bearing headset, some cable ties and the little Fork fork brake cable management cover thing.

    There was no Bontrager high pressure shock pump in there, which I thought was unusual, as a lot of the other Trek's usually throw one in. I had one already from my Fuel Ex 9, and their website states that one is included in the purchase, so a little miffed at that omission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    The box comes with the flat packed bike, front and rear reflectors, a bell (not kidding), Trek Owner's Information handbook + DVD, tapered sealed bearing headset, some cable ties and the little Fork fork brake cable management cover thing.

    There was no Bontrager high pressure shock pump in there, which I thought was unusual, as a lot of the other Trek's usually throw one in. I had one already from my Fuel Ex 9, and their website states that one is included in the purchase, so a little miffed at that omission.

    Cheers trying to find out what is with it so you are saying there should be a shock pump ? Also was there valves for converting to tubeless please ? Where does the website say what is included ?

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    Argh, I must have been looking at another page. I thought there was going to be a shock pump available, but there isn't. Says the "extras" under the details listing for the bike on their website. Also forgot the fork Sag Meter is included (I think it's still on in most of those shots as I'd not yet set the forks up).

    No valves for converting to tubeless included, but the rims are tubeless ready with regards to tape etc. I'm going to wait for my Ikon's to come in before I go tubeless.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    Argh, I must have been looking at another page. I thought there was going to be a shock pump available, but there isn't. Says the "extras" under the details listing for the bike on their website. Also forgot the fork Sag Meter is included (I think it's still on in most of those shots as I'd not yet set the forks up).

    No valves for converting to tubeless included, but the rims are tubeless ready with regards to tape etc. I'm going to wait for my Ikon's to come in before I go tubeless.]
    Cheers, well at least the rim tape is there, just need to get valves and a shock pump. Thanks for getting back to me, be sure to post how it rides please

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    It's a bit cold this morning, just going to get those reflectors off, adjust my cleat tension, throw in a some sealant in the inner tubes, check pressures then take her out for a burn.

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    Oh yeah, clocks in at 11.3kg with pedals and bottle cages on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    Oh yeah, clocks in at 11.3kg with pedals and bottle cages on.
    Pretty light for an out of the box bike, going tubeless on a set of Stan's Arch would shave a pound easily

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    Alright, taken her out for her first ride and I'm WELL IMPRESSED!!!



    She's nimble and an awesomely good pedaller. The tyres aren't too bad, they definitely roll out beautifully, little skatey in high speed corners, but not half as bad as I was expecting them to be, they skid then grab quite predictably. They don't feel dissimilar to Continental Race Kings, a little light on tread for the front, but certainly managable, and given a bit more time getting used to a less aggressive tread (Xkings or Rubber Queens are what I usually run on the front of my Fuel Ex) could happily ride that setup.



    The CTD shocks aren't bad. I have come from using the Fox FIT DRCV fork on the Fuel Ex, and I generally have that one set up in a locked out position with a reasonably soft blow-off setting, so she stays firm through pedalling, but then opens up as soon as it gets a little bumpy. I like that level of customisation, and although the CTD's broad settings do work well enough, it's hard coming back from a higher standard.
    That said, the Climb setting is extremely firm, there's a little bit of give in it, but i'd consider the fork to be largely locked out in that setting, left it in trail setting for most of my time on the bike, and that feels very good (still adjusting the pressure, running them on the firmer side at the moment, will likely drop a few PSI) and it soaks up the bumps beautifully.
    Descend makes it a little bit more plush, but interestingly I can't seem to use up the full travel unless I'm in the descend setting, Trail leaves about 10-15mm of travel unused, even on larger drops that should usually move it up. It will jump into that with Descend, and it might just be the fork is running firm at the moment, will keep posted.
    Controls are solid, they give a nice little click as you move them into place, it's easy to use. Not a bad fork, but not a high end Fox fork, so behave accordingly.



    DIRTY!!!


    CLEAN!!!


    The brakes work really well also. They're not quite XT's, but the SLX is a solid brake set so far, lovely modulation on them. I haven't thrown it down anything that really stressed them out yet though, so I'll see how they hold up under some more stress.

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    Quite the nice stable you have there, thanks for the thread as I love the color choices they did for13. I was quite skeptical of the bontrager tires on my 100 elite and actually bought three other pairs since they were on close out at my LBS. congrats and enjoy your rides!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    Oh yeah, clocks in at 11.3kg with pedals and bottle cages on.
    What size frame is it please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    Alright, taken her out for her first ride and I'm WELL IMPRESSED!!!



    She's nimble and an awesomely good pedaller. The tyres aren't too bad, they definitely roll out beautifully, little skatey in high speed corners, but not half as bad as I was expecting them to be, they skid then grab quite predictably. They don't feel dissimilar to Continental Race Kings, a little light on tread for the front, but certainly managable, and given a bit more time getting used to a less aggressive tread (Xkings or Rubber Queens are what I usually run on the front of my Fuel Ex) could happily ride that setup.



    The CTD shocks aren't bad. I have come from using the Fox FIT DRCV fork on the Fuel Ex, and I generally have that one set up in a locked out position with a reasonably soft blow-off setting, so she stays firm through pedalling, but then opens up as soon as it gets a little bumpy. I like that level of customisation, and although the CTD's broad settings do work well enough, it's hard coming back from a higher standard.
    That said, the Climb setting is extremely firm, there's a little bit of give in it, but i'd consider the fork to be largely locked out in that setting, left it in trail setting for most of my time on the bike, and that feels very good (still adjusting the pressure, running them on the firmer side at the moment, will likely drop a few PSI) and it soaks up the bumps beautifully.
    Descend makes it a little bit more plush, but interestingly I can't seem to use up the full travel unless I'm in the descend setting, Trail leaves about 10-15mm of travel unused, even on larger drops that should usually move it up. It will jump into that with Descend, and it might just be the fork is running firm at the moment, will keep posted.
    Controls are solid, they give a nice little click as you move them into place, it's easy to use. Not a bad fork, but not a high end Fox fork, so behave accordingly.



    DIRTY!!!


    CLEAN!!!


    The brakes work really well also. They're not quite XT's, but the SLX is a solid brake set so far, lovely modulation on them. I haven't thrown it down anything that really stressed them out yet though, so I'll see how they hold up under some more stress.
    those stands are interesting. did you make them yourself or did you buy them. would be interested to know where you got them or if you made them, i surely would like to know how you made if you don't mind..

    nice bikes....just got the 12' SF AL ELITE on closeout and the price was so tempting i couldn't wait for next year's closeout price for the 13' SF AL ELITE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyjonesuk View Post
    What size frame is it please?
    That there is the 19" frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    those stands are interesting. did you make them yourself or did you buy them. would be interested to know where you got them or if you made them, i surely would like to know how you made if you don't mind..

    nice bikes....just got the 12' SF AL ELITE on closeout and the price was so tempting i couldn't wait for next year's closeout price for the 13' SF AL ELITE.
    The stands I bought from Chain Reaction Cycles, in fact, here's a link. Pro Bike Display Stand | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com
    They fit the 26er a lot better, they grip the axle next to the brake rotor, but does the job on the 29'er alright everything considered.

    The 2012 is a very nice bike from what I here. I almost went it myself, but had a friend who owns a bike store who did me a wicked price on the 2013, and couldn't go any lower on the 2012, in the end, I didn't have to pay that much more, and it got my a bike that matched my Fuel Ex 9's colour, got the 15mm TA and the XT crankset.

    Also, it's nice to be on a hardtail again. I've been riding my Fuel Ex 9 to death lately, and I recently sold my Merida hardtail 26'er in order to fund the Superfly, so been without a hardtail for a little bit. Luckily I ride my full susser like a hardtail, but I still felt it in my legs today after lunch, just that extra strain from the jolts and having to move the legs that much more to soak up the bumps.
    Still, that means I've been riding hard enough! A phrase you hear a bit at local events, "Riding never stops hurting, you just go faster."

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    [QUOTE=Zaf;9677804]That there is the 19" frame.



    The stands I bought from Chain Reaction Cycles, in fact, here's a link. Pro Bike Display Stand | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com
    They fit the 26er a lot better, they grip the axle next to the brake rotor, but does the job on the 29'er alright everything considered.

    The 2012 is a very nice bike from what I here. I almost went it myself, but had a friend who owns a bike store who did me a wicked price on the 2013, and couldn't go any lower on the 2012, in the end, I didn't have to pay that much more, and it got my a bike that matched my Fuel Ex 9's colour, got the 15mm TA and the XT crankset.

    Also, it's nice to be on a hardtail again. I've been riding my Fuel Ex 9 to death lately, and I recently sold my Merida hardtail 26'er in order to fund the Superfly, so been without a hardtail for a little bit. Luckily I ride my full susser like a hardtail, but I still felt it in my legs today after lunch, just that extra strain from the jolts and having to move the legs that much more to soak up the bumps.
    Still, that means I've been riding hard enough! A phrase you hear a bit at local events, "Riding never stops hurting, you just go faster."[/QUOTE]

    love that quote! also happy i decided on a HT... was initially thinking of waiting till next year and get a FS.... but have been reading reviews of guys going back to HT and with my kind of riding (leisure and nothing extreme (yet)) a HT will suffice.

    talking about HT's and me being virtually new with MTB how tall of a drop do you think a HT will take safely. reason im asking is that i came up with an idea (crazy i think) to try practicing drops and saw my patio as an opportune staging area lol.. i think its at least 2-3 feet high and the plan is for me try to get as much momentum and just "fly" through the edge of the patio.... i havent figured out how to land safely yet but ill come to that later... lol...

    seriously, was considering this just probably to get me accustomed with jumps. i followed a buddy of mine on a trail and he's been riding for a long time and just cruised through a wooden "obstacle". he knew the trail well and knew that the "obstacle" was there i did not! good thing i was able to clear it without me face planting despite the initial hesitation that i had.

    thanks.

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    How large a drop you can take on a hard tail will vary largely with the rider and the terrain you're dropping onto. I'll be honest, I'm not the worlds greatest technical rider, I mainly ride endurance and XC style events and prefer to keep both wheels on the ground where possible. I'm confident enough, and can do a little, but it's mainly just the odd bunny hop and or flick of the rear end.

    Two to Three foot drop onto grass, or a gradual surface I'd feel fine doing on my Superfly, i personally wouldn't be confident doing it onto a flat hard surface. I probably could, but wouldn't be comfortable with it and as such would avoid it. I've seen some trials riders do amazing things on rigids that would make that comment seem silly, but it depends on the rider, what you're comfortable with, how you feel the bike will handle it, etc.

    Usual advice, if in doubt, start small and build up. Saves the wallet as well as the skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post
    How large a drop you can take on a hard tail will vary largely with the rider and the terrain you're dropping onto. I'll be honest, I'm not the worlds greatest technical rider, I mainly ride endurance and XC style events and prefer to keep both wheels on the ground where possible. I'm confident enough, and can do a little, but it's mainly just the odd bunny hop and or flick of the rear end.

    Two to Three foot drop onto grass, or a gradual surface I'd feel fine doing on my Superfly, i personally wouldn't be confident doing it onto a flat hard surface. I probably could, but wouldn't be comfortable with it and as such would avoid it. I've seen some trials riders do amazing things on rigids that would make that comment seem silly, but it depends on the rider, what you're comfortable with, how you feel the bike will handle it, etc.

    Usual advice, if in doubt, start small and build up. Saves the wallet as well as the skin.
    again good quote.. again was just a crazy idea... thank your for the bike stand links btw..

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    Awesome paint !

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    Quote Originally Posted by banik View Post
    Awesome paint !
    They nailed the colours on it didn't they?!
    Looks even better in the sun, the paint is transparent, so you can see all the brushwork on the aluminium frame underneath.

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    Thanks for the bike pictures

    I cant wait to get this bike!!! Thank you so much for the great pictures! I was desperately looking everyday for any type of pics on this bike besides the website ones. ))

    I first started looking at the mamba but then got convinced to test ride the x-caliber and then stumbled on the superfly and from there I made my decision that the superfly elite would be the best bike for me. Have you been able to climb any steep incline with it?

    You already posted a lot of great pictures but would you be in consideration on making a You tube video of the bike and posting it up? Thanks

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    I don't have a camera to make a movie, I'm thinking of getting a Contour, but haven't bitten that bullet yet.
    It climbs really well, though i didn't find it much better as a climber until i got on really loose, sharp inclined stuff, at which point it didn't spit everything from underneath the tyre like the 26er does. But otherwise, I felt the climbing stories of the 29er where a little exaggerated or told by people who can't choose gears properly. It's different in delivery, but no more or less effective as a 26" hardtail...that loose terrain being the exception.

    I'll see if I can borrow a camera from someone, but don't hold your breath just yet.

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    Such a sick bike

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    Falling in love with this bike.



    The Brakes
    The brakes are nicely bedded in, and they're very good brakes. I threw them down an intense hill this afternoon, it was at the end of the ride, weather wasn't too bad (Central Australia, start of spring is quite nice, but was about 30C today) but very still, no wind, and it's exposed out here, there's no wooded area's or trees large enough to cast any worthwhile shadows on the track, you ride in the sun.

    Anyway, nice weather aside, brought the bike down the hill, and it takes a lot of braking. The first part of the descent is gradual enough, then there's a rock obstacle that drops you down a steep flowy part of the track that turns down an off camber longer corner, following underneath a rock, before turning into switchback after switchback almost all the way down the hill with a few having a little bit of a fast flowing run between them.
    The end of the track rolls out and spits you into a short climb, which you can get up quite quickly except for the last bit which is a bit technical, before throwing you back down a technical rocky section and back out onto single track.

    Boring track explanation aside, the brakes held up beautifully, they didn't fade at all, although the rear brake started to squeak a little towards the end. I never felt I was out of braking power, and I was being pretty heavy on them because I wanted to test them and because I'm still running the Bontrager 29-1's on the front so was confidence braking a little because I didn't want to wash out with that low profile tread.
    They don't grip as well as the XT's with Ice-Tech rotors that the Fuel Ex has, but at that price point, those SLX brakes are bloody amazing!! Great modulation, you can one finger brake with them, they have the power, but they don't execute it with the confidence that the XT's do.




    Forks and ride position
    Adjusted the forks nicely as well, although I don't find myself using the CTD as much, it really needs a remote setting for that to be of any real use, and I find it's best to leave it in the Trail setting most of the time.

    I flipped the stem over as well, much prefer that riding position. The 100mm stem seems to be perfect, although my seat position for my riding means that my saddle bag doesn't grip very well, so might need to fork out for a new one. Bike pump mounts beautifully behind the bottle cage on my seat tube, so when the new saddle bag is in this bike should be ready for enduro's without me having to load up the camelbak with inner tubes, pumps etc.

    It is a very responsive bike. I was expecting that whenI got a 29er it would be far more of a lumbering brute in the corners, I'd ridden last years Superfly AL that a mate had, with some Deore brakes thrown on it (those Avid's are just ****), and loved it, but didn't get to throw it through it all its paces. It is a different creature to the 26"er, no doubt about it, but it's subtle. I really can't wait for those new tyres to come, I might even order some even more aggressive treads for it and really start throwing into those corners and see if it comes alive. Guessing that the Ikon/Aspen combo should put a grin across my face though.



    Random pics of the bike to show off how gorgeous those colours look in the sun, where you can see the brushwork on the aluminium. Also, look how clean my drivetrain stays, thankyou dry lube...you're a godsend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timothyrd76 View Post
    so I'll have to wait until the morning to take her for a spin.
    That's depressing!!
    Sleep well, you won't want to get off it once you start tomorrow.

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    The first ones have started arriving here now, but only in the smaller sizes cannot wait for mine to come in



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    Mine in on the way; this weekend it will be here.

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    Saw a 17" and looked sweet can't wait for my 19" ! The bike shop is going to do some chasing for me

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    Just an fyi about the tubeless: The rimstrips that come installed on the rims are not the TLR strips, they are just a traditional rimstrip that protects the tube. Only the Bonty wheelsets purchased aftermarket come with TLR strips and valves. Get the strips. They're only ~$10 each. You won't be sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
    Just an fyi about the tubeless: The rimstrips that come installed on the rims are not the TLR strips, they are just a traditional rimstrip that protects the tube. Only the Bonty wheelsets purchased aftermarket come with TLR strips and valves. Get the strips. They're only ~$10 each. You won't be sorry.
    You sure? The specs of the bike say its 'tubeless ready' which as I understood it meant it had the rimstrips fitted (though I guess the stick tape variant). I thought I just need valves and stans then I was read to go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyjonesuk View Post
    You sure? The specs of the bike say its 'tubeless ready' which as I understood it meant it had the rimstrips fitted (though I guess the stick tape variant). I thought I just need valves and stans then I was read to go....
    You will need the TLR rim strips and valve stems to make them air tight. They don't come installed from the factory.

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    Yes, I'm sure. "Ready" means you have to add TLR strips and valves.
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    Yeah granted I know about the tubes, but without a rimstrip surely they are no more ready than any other wheels?

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    No, the Bonty TLR rimstrip is a molded plastic piece that only works in their rims, not a generic rubber strip like some other "systems". The rim and strip are designed together to work this way, it is more reliable than the rubber strip method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
    No, the Bonty TLR rimstrip is a molded plastic piece that only works in their rims, not a generic rubber strip like some other "systems". The rim and strip are designed together to work this way, it is more reliable than the rubber strip method.
    Thank you, every day is a school day!

    So which strips do we need with it please ? (sorry for the break in the link I am not allowed to post links yet....)

    htt p://bontrager.com/model/02566

    Shame its required as will add weight, though of course you still maintain the other benefits of tubeless.

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    That page from the Bonty site is the tubeless parts page, the specific strip you need is the RXL 29 strip part # 400337. Your local Trek shop can get them for you.
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    Yeah, I checked with my mate, mine did come with the tubeless rim-tape on it because he's an absolute bro and fixed that up for me, but they come stock with a normal rim tape.

    The Bontrager 29-1's are starting to grow on me a bit, they've been thrashed around some and they have a really predictable slip on them. That's allowing me to throw the bike around with a lot more confidence. Would buy another pair and keen to try out some of the other Bontrager line up, they suit the terrain out here really nicely.

    Little bit of trouble getting the beads to set evenly, would be my only complaint.

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    Hey Zaf, nice bike!

    When I saw the pics I thought "looks like Alice".....is that where you are??
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    Hey Zaf,

    Awesome set, I am going to have a VERY similar situation here soon. I own a Fuel EX 9, got my girlfriend into Mountain Biking and she just picked up a 2012 Superfly AL on amazing clearance ($1200 because the word "Superfly" near the stem is missing the Y, hah!)

    Anyway, her bike will fit me as well, so I'm excited to ride it once I get back up to Colorado with her. Can you give us a quick breakdown of what you like about one over the other? What kind of riding, etc? Sounds like you really like the 29er HT... im excited to ride ours, just hope I don't have to sneak out to ride alone just so i can use the Superfly!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRandall View Post
    Hey Zaf, nice bike!

    When I saw the pics I thought "looks like Alice".....is that where you are??
    Good eyes, it certainly is.

    Quote Originally Posted by mvallejo View Post
    Hey Zaf,

    Awesome set, I am going to have a VERY similar situation here soon. I own a Fuel EX 9, got my girlfriend into Mountain Biking and she just picked up a 2012 Superfly AL on amazing clearance ($1200 because the word "Superfly" near the stem is missing the Y, hah!)

    Anyway, her bike will fit me as well, so I'm excited to ride it once I get back up to Colorado with her. Can you give us a quick breakdown of what you like about one over the other? What kind of riding, etc? Sounds like you really like the 29er HT... im excited to ride ours, just hope I don't have to sneak out to ride alone just so i can use the Superfly!

    Thanks!
    That's an awesome bargain on the 2012 model. I was a victim of price creep, I'd just sold my Merida so was in the market for a new hardtail, originally looking at other models from Ghost and Corratec. Then the clearance hit, and I was going to get a 2012 Superfly AL (non elite) and then fit it with new brakes...but that wasn't cost smart over the Elite, so was looking at that...then the 2013 got announced and it was matching colours, had the 15mm TA and XT crankset so I just couldn't say no.

    Anyway, to explain the different weapons I should explain the racing out here. Most of the stuff in Alice is endurance XC racing, single track. It's harsh, in the warmer months most races move to night time hours, for safety concerns with heat.

    The Fuel Ex was mainly bought as my XC endurance race bike. The full suspension is truly forgiving on the body in those longer events, and although the hardtails clock in faster laps to begin with, you start to see your times drop off because of the strain your body is under. The Fuel Ex 9 is also my 26er so I love it for all the reasons I should in that matter, it is nippy, the geometry allows me to get right over the bike and really throw it into corners as well as launch out of them.

    The Superfly AL Elite was bought so that I still had a hardtail to ride, primarily so I didn't forget how to ride properly. It's kind of developed into a second love and my "sprint" bike, with its higher gearing and those large wheels REALLY carry some speed in open sections. Point to point races, or any race with fewer technical sections will bring this baby out to play from now on. I've yet to race it yet, expecting a point to point race to pop up sometime next month, and hoping to take the Superfly on it.
    It handles really nicely, and the climbing differences between the hardtail and full suspension can't be overstated, there's something very nice, especially when you're out of the saddle, feeling the response from your pedals going straight into the rear wheel. I have said elsewhere, I didn't feel the 29'er was a much better climber then my older 26er hardtail, I feel that is a matter that's been blown up and it's more a matter of choosing good gears for your wheelsize and then keeping that cadence.

    The Superfly handles brilliantly as well, those tight headtube angles really do make it responsive in the corners, although, with my high saddle height it can make technical descents that little bit scarier, but I've yet to send myself over the handlebars (touch wood) or taco a wheel.

    She hurts to ride as well. That first week after I had the Superfly I just couldn't get off it, was having that much fun burning around on it, but after a day or two, my hips and legs where really aching. I'm a young guy, 25, and I really noticed my recovery on the Fuel Ex was just SO much better. Still, the Superfly is a brilliant bike enjoyment wise, there's just something about it that puts a grin on my face when I ride it...much like the Fuel Ex 9...you should see the race pictures of me when I first got the Fuel Ex...every single one I'm just plastered with an ear to ear smile on it, love that bike.

    WALL OF TEXT!!!!

    tl;dr
    Fuel Ex: Technical Trails make you enter a dreamlike state of enjoyment, XC endurance doesn't kill you, so confident in corners, makes me happy.
    Superfly: OMG SPEED!!!! Climbs like a demon, reminds me how to ride properly, nippy despite large wheelsize.

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    Hi Zaf, still waiting for mine
    While I do though what exact model is the xt rear derailleur please ? Is it the plus model if not I am thinking of upgrading to it.

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    I got mine this weekend. Only had time for a few short 5 and 7 mile rides so far. One of the best bikes I've ever riden.

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    Just out of curiosity, what's written on the headset top plate?

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    All work and no play is no fun at all. All of the 2013s we've gotten so far have that topcap.
    Worked at Trek/Fisher dealer 2008-2013. Only a little biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyjonesuk View Post
    Hi Zaf, still waiting for mine
    While I do though what exact model is the xt rear derailleur please ? Is it the plus model if not I am thinking of upgrading to it.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3


    I believe it's an RD-M781-SGS. It has "Shimano" where the 786 has "dyna-sys" on the body of the derailluer, and a long arm (hence SGS not GS).
    It runs smoth and quietly, but I'm afraid i don't know how to tell the difference between a shadow plus and non shadow plus mech, so some pointers would be welcomein that respect.

    On a side note, this baby carried me into a fourth fastest time clocked on Strava on a 2.7km climb on the weekend, and it was a section of an 18km circuit three of us were doing for a race coming up soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post


    I believe it's an RD-M781-SGS. It has "Shimano" where the 786 has "dyna-sys" on the body of the derailluer, and a long arm (hence SGS not GS).
    It runs smoth and quietly, but I'm afraid i don't know how to tell the difference between a shadow plus and non shadow plus mech, so some pointers would be welcomein that respect.

    On a side note, this baby carried me into a fourth fastest time clocked on Strava on a 2.7km climb on the weekend, and it was a section of an 18km circuit three of us were doing for a race coming up soon.
    Sweet ride. Love the '13 Superfly AL Elite. I liked last year's white with red scheme but the brushed alu and orange is really stunning. Glad your riding it fast Zaf! But to answer the rear derailleur question, by the looks of it, it's a regular XT Shadow derailleur. According to the spec sheet on the Trek website you won't get a Shadow Plus derailleur standard till you upgrade to the Carbon Superfly Elite SL. No biggie though, just upgrade the derailleur to a Shadow Plus before it leaves the shop. Wish I had the budget for a new bike. Would love to snatch me a Superfly Al Elite and run it a 1x10 or better yet get my hands on the new SRAM XX1 1x11 drivetrain. Post more pics of your bike Zaf! lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaf View Post


    I believe it's an RD-M781-SGS. It has "Shimano" where the 786 has "dyna-sys" on the body of the derailluer, and a long arm (hence SGS not GS).
    It runs smoth and quietly, but I'm afraid i don't know how to tell the difference between a shadow plus and non shadow plus mech, so some pointers would be welcomein that respect.

    On a side note, this baby carried me into a fourth fastest time clocked on Strava on a 2.7km climb on the weekend, and it was a section of an 18km circuit three of us were doing for a race coming up soon.
    Cheers for that it is defiantly the long arm one though?

    Sent from my Galaxy S3

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyjonesuk View Post
    Cheers for that it is defiantly the long arm one though?
    Pretty certain it's the long arm.

    My new parcel came in today with a few treats for both of my bikes.

    A few of the goodies on display.


    The Bontrager 29-1's, really satisfying tyre to use, I'd grown to love them so it wasn't so easy pulling them off, and still running tubes at the moment while I fiddle a bit to find out which combination I want to be using.


    All the Maxxis glory. Ikon's on the front in a 2.2 3C Maxspeed compound and Aspen 2.1's on the rear just in a folding pattern.


    These things made one HELL of a bang when they seated their bead. Such a satisfying noise.


    Glory shot of the bikes FINE rear end.



    Oh and the XT lever was a replacement for my Fuel Ex 9's after a stack I had a fortnight ago. Luckily it was the only thing damaged (and the grips bit that's barely worth mentioning), as you can see, it came off worse in a fight with a rock.
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    Oh and I KNOW you're all thinking it, so I'll put your worries to rest now. The saddle bag is a hang over from my last bike, and it's being replaced with an SKS one (black and orange...who'da thunk I was colour coded?!) so as to look beautiful with the rest of the colour scheme.

    Quote Originally Posted by DBackRider08 View Post
    Sweet ride. Love the '13 Superfly AL Elite. I liked last year's white with red scheme but the brushed alu and orange is really stunning. Glad your riding it fast Zaf! But to answer the rear derailleur question, by the looks of it, it's a regular XT Shadow derailleur. According to the spec sheet on the Trek website you won't get a Shadow Plus derailleur standard till you upgrade to the Carbon Superfly Elite SL. No biggie though, just upgrade the derailleur to a Shadow Plus before it leaves the shop. Wish I had the budget for a new bike. Would love to snatch me a Superfly Al Elite and run it a 1x10 or better yet get my hands on the new SRAM XX1 1x11 drivetrain. Post more pics of your bike Zaf! lol.
    Good spotting, it's not the plus then, just the XT Shadow, the Elite SL also has a lower gearing on it then the Elite AL. Gotta admit, the high gearing and fast rolling treads are an ABSOLUTE DREAM on this thing.

    That ride the other day where I clocked a 4th on Strava, now I want to go out and get into top three as I was conserving energy when I did it (Oh look, I'm not above bragging either, just learned something about myself) as it was in the first half of what I knew to be a longer track.
    Anyway, the day before I was riding with a few other guys in a similar area (35km ride, some of the tracks crossed over), one of the guys is a very similar fitness level and skilled rider as I am, so we speared off ahead and would take breaks in the shade (peaked at 43C on Saturday when we were out, it was a HOT day) and allowed the others to catch up, have a drink and chat, nice little social ride with some fun hard riding in between.
    It was a really interesting dynamic, as he was packing a Fuel Ex 8 and I'd generally use my size to open out space between us on the more flowy stuff and he'd catch me back up as soon as the going got bendy or technical, we were always within earshot of one another though, so it's not like I was ever pulling away massively, despite trying.
    So it was nice seeing the dynamic of the different bikes, but then the track opened out a little into this flowy, rocky plains, loose on hardpack kind of track for about 5km through mulga brush. I'd have taken a picture but I was WAY too busy enjoying the bike, when I stopped at the top of a hill at the end of it, I'd just left him in the dust, I'd opened out about a 30s gap between us.

    The bike was just in its element there, the big tyres skipped over those rocks, the high gearing shot me down the track at breakneck speed and once I had that speed up, I was just rocketing up the small climbs and pumping back down the other side.
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    Very nice ordered the derailleur

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    Few more glory shots of the bike from the other morning. There's been a bit of rain lately, which has packed the trails down a bit. A few of these shots were taken just as the sun peaked out from behind the clouds, so you could see the darkness off them in the background, but where I was standing was quite illuminated.







    It was very different riding after the rain, the colours really do look like that in person, everything loses that "dust covered" look, the track and ground packs down a bit without getting tacky, so the tyres roll out so quickly. The Ikon/Aspen combination is riding a dream, the aspen is such a fast tyre, but those larger side lugs really hold it steady through the corners, absolutely loving the bike!!!

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    Nice pics Zaf. Man, I want this bike so badly!
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