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    2013 superfly elite sl: upgrade options?

    Hi,
    I am looking to buy a superfly elite sl soon and would like to make some upgrades straight away. Anyone that's has some suggestions on which parts should be upgraded and to be replaced with what?

    thanks
    eelco

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    Maybe an Enve wheel set?

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    How would they compare to the roval controls?

    Not sure whether this will be a bit too expensive though. Was maybe considering the crossmax slr or a cheaper set like ZTR archs

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    2013 Trek Superfly SL and Superfly 100 video
    Three quarters through that video they talk about the next gen being an opportunity to critique something and pick it apart -- the next gen is always better. The 2014 9.8 is different geo with 435mm chain stays, 10mm shorter, and 5mm more bb drop. I've demoed it and it is excellent enough for me.
    Both bikes would benefit from a wheeset upgrade.

    Bontrager XXX are 1380g with 54T star ratchets(unique)
    Construction: 6061 alloy rim (24mm outer, 21mm inner width), DT star ratchet drive system, 28 front/rear DT nail head 14/17/14G bladed spokes with Alpina alloy locking nipples.
    Bontrager: XXX TLR Disc 29 (Model #11445)

    Specialized Control Carbon 29 are hookless 22nn internal 1580g
    Specialized Bicycle Components

    Stan's Valor carbon with compliance. 21mm internal 1230g
    Basically a carbon ArchEx.
    ZTR Valor

    Wider internal options include--

    AC Wide Lightening 1569g 29.3mm internal
    WIDE LIGHTNING|29 TUBELESS

    Light Bicycle hookless carbon rims 30mm internal(due out Nov 30th)
    Your own build with SuperComp or Sapim Lasers on a Dt 350 rear and light front hub.

    I would consider two wheelsets, one wider.
    To afford that you can go with the 9.6 to start at only 22.000.
    Upgrade the brakes to SLX or XT and the shifters to XT.
    Mod the fork with the info from post #72
    Solo Air vs Dual Air
    If it were me I would call Alpine bikes in Edinborough and order the 9.8 frameset listed on the UK website because I have a lot of favorite parts already. Hop on Ryan and pick it up in person.
    Get a Vat refund with a 407 form. 8.000.
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    Are the stock wheel really so bad? Or is the main problem setting them up tubeless? In that case just some other rims would do the trick?

    How about any other items for upgrade? Anyone out there done some upgrading on their superfly?

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    I have the 2013 Elite SL hardtail. There is nothing wrong with the stock rims - they set up tubeless very well with the Bontrager strips and valves - they are just a bit narrow at 19 mm internal and not as light as other options. If your Trek dealer signed up for the 2nd set promo, they may be able to get you a deal on the new RXXXL wheels mentioned above. They look nice. I did a bunch of component swaps on mine, but nothing that was mandatory.

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    Thanks, I will talk to my dealer about setting them up tubeless or whether they prefer different wheels. With my weight of 90kg many of those nice light weight options are not relevant.

    I was also thinking of a carbon seat post instead of the standard ones. Any tips?

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    90kg is 4 kg above the weight limit for the RXXXL only. Everything else is available.
    Upgrade to the better geo of the 9.8 and your budget will allow many good choices.
    Sometimes you can benefit from a bit of careful analysis.

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    I went with the RXXXL post because I had it already. The frame from the SL offers a lot of compliance (more than the new 9.8), so I'm not sure a carbon post is necessary for that. I like a bit more set back than the stock post provides.

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    For the standard stock rims; can NoTubes rim tape and valve be used instead of Bontrager type?

    Sorry for hijacking thread.

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    From what I have understood the valve needs to be bontrager in order to get a good seal.

    I will initially go for the standard wheels in tubeless setup.

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    The stock Bontrager RXL wheels are not so bad. They are not the lightest by any means, but the bulk of the rotating weight lies in the center of the wheel......ie; the hubs. The Scandium rims are both under 400g each, so they spool-up fairly quick. You will only feel the RXL wheelset's heft, when things start pointing upwards. Also, the freehub engagement is nothing to write home about, either. Other than those niggling quirks, they are a decent set of OEM wheels.
    "The mind will quit....well before the body does"

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    Short answer is no and why would you want to. Bontrager makes one of the best tubeless setups with their proprietary rim strips. They aren't expensive and don't have to be replaced like the stans tape every so often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars K. P. View Post
    For the standard stock rims; can NoTubes rim tape and valve be used instead of Bontrager type?

    Sorry for hijacking thread.

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    Thanks,

    Just ordered the Superfly Elite SL and will start upgrading next week:-)

    Eelco; keep you posted of the progress.

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    Smile

    Got mine last week and did a few upgrades before taking into use;

    Fizik Cyrano Carbon seat post, Tune Speedneddle saddle, Arundel Mandible bottle cage, Shimano XTR cassette and rear derailleur. Furthermore, I converted into tubeless by the Bontrager rime strip and added the Conti X-King RaceSport tires.


    Did a short test ride today (not much single-track), but so far I am still one big smile
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    Congrats Lars!!
    I picked up mine last week, found a dealer who had a last 21" he wanted to sell before the winter:-) got it for his dealer price....
    So far only changed the saddle and will pick up the bontrager tubeless system this week plus the bontrager 0 2.1 tyres. As winter has come to Norway I have 4-5 months to make some modifications and really build up the expectations for my first ride next year!

    If you modify more items then let me know

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    I am in Denmark and will also spend the muddy season for upgrades and only ride it the few good days which hopefully will come during the winter.

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    My stock 2013 Superfly SL with few upgrades:

    Seat post: Fizik Cyrano Carbon
    Saddle: Tune Speedneddle saddle
    Bottle cage: Arundel Mandible
    Cassette and rear derailleur: Shimano XTR
    Crank set: Shimano XTR Trail
    Brake calipers: Shimano XTR
    Brake rotor rear: XTR 140 mm

    Furthermore, I converted into tubeless by the Bontrager rime strip and added the Conti X-King RaceSport tires.

    Weight is just below 10 kg (all in)
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    I Recently added a YEP-components 125mm internal dropper post to my '13 SF100 SL.... best upgrade so far....

    Also changed the XT brakes for Hope Tech 3 X2 brakes (180mm front, 160mm rear), I prefer the feel and feedback, and design, from the Hopes over the Shimano brakes.

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    2013 Superfly Elite SL final setup with upgrades:

    Seat post: Fizik Cyrano Carbon
    Saddle: Tune Speedneddle saddle
    Bottle cage: Arundel Mandible
    Cassette and rear & front derailleur: Shimano XTR
    Crank set: Shimano XTR Trail
    Brake calipers: Shimano XTR
    Brake rotor rear: XTR 140 mm
    Thru axle front: Tune DC15
    Wheels: DT Swiss 240s CL hubs with DT Swiss XR331 rims, Sapim CX-Ray spokes
    Tires: Michelin Wild Race'R Advanced Ultimate (tubeless)
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