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    Wow, thatīs one good looking bike!

    Kind of like the black&white theme of the SL better as the yellow on my Elite

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    Well, I had my first race this weekend on the new SF100. 50 miles of technical and rugged racing in southern utah (True Grit 50). The bike handled great. It responded well, didn't drag on the technical ascents (in propedal), and it provided just enough forgiveness to keep me relatively comfortable. I still have a little to do to dial in the suspension.

    I did have one problem. The pivot bolt attaching the rear shock, came loose twice during the race. I torqued all bolts to spec when I got the bike a few weeks ago, but it looked like the threadlock (blue) was dry and of no use. Hopefully it is not a problem in the future, but something to keep an eye on.

    It's definitely a full suspension racer. Thumbs up.

    Here's the bike. An XL weighing in at 21 lbs 2 oz with pedals and cage. Roval control sl wheels, XX1 drivetrain, and a couple other changes.

    2013 Superfly 100 Elite SL eta ?-212.jpg2013 Superfly 100 Elite SL eta ?-sf100.jpg

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    I also have received my bike and could not be happier with it. 17.5 is 24.5 lbs totally stock with older xtr pedals installed. The bike rides excellently compared to my fuel ex 9.9. It rides just like a new bike should! Trimming the fat on this bike will be an expensive endeavour as nothing is too heavy out of the box, even the wheels(which have bladed spokes). Tires are not as listed on the website and are a 2.0 instead of 2.2. They are lite but twitchy. I have. Four rides since last Thursday(I ride a lot) all off road and the bike is smooth, fast, and quiet. I e ridden abp for years so I knew what to expect in that department but adding the big axles on both ends definitely made a difference in off camber stiffness.

    JTHOPS please send a picture of the "nut" side of the bolt that loosened. My guess is it is the upper bolt. I'd like a close up of the "nut" seated in the frame. I have an idea as to why it loosened.

    I have ridden oclv for seventeen years and this fit and finish is the best by far. I am unhappy that trek moved offshore especially for the top end mountain frame BUT the bike is amazing!! If there was a frame only option, the availability of the bike would be non existent not that it isn't already.

    If you have a chance to ride one, you will not be disappointed, except by the wait to get one after you order

    So long story short, coming from a high end fully kitted carbon fuel ex to this bike was a noticeable upgrade in technology and "feel"

    Kudos Trek... Just work on your supply line logistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baltistyle View Post
    I also have received my bike and could not be happier with it. 17.5 is 24.5 lbs totally stock with older xtr pedals installed. The bike rides excellently compared to my fuel ex 9.9. It rides just like a new bike should! Trimming the fat on this bike will be an expensive endeavour as nothing is too heavy out of the box, even the wheels(which have bladed spokes). Tires are not as listed on the website and are a 2.0 instead of 2.2. They are lite but twitchy. I have. Four rides since last Thursday(I ride a lot) all off road and the bike is smooth, fast, and quiet. I e ridden abp for years so I knew what to expect in that department but adding the big axles on both ends definitely made a difference in off camber stiffness.

    JTHOPS please send a picture of the "nut" side of the bolt that loosened. My guess is it is the upper bolt. I'd like a close up of the "nut" seated in the frame. I have an idea as to why it loosened.

    I have ridden oclv for seventeen years and this fit and finish is the best by far. I am unhappy that trek moved offshore especially for the top end mountain frame BUT the bike is amazing!! If there was a frame only option, the availability of the bike would be non existent not that it isn't already.

    If you have a chance to ride one, you will not be disappointed, except by the wait to get one after you order

    So long story short, coming from a high end fully kitted carbon fuel ex to this bike was a noticeable upgrade in technology and "feel"

    Kudos Trek... Just work on your supply line logistics.
    The bolt threads directly into the pivot. This is a picture of the link with the bolt missing. I would love to hear a logical reason for the bolt to unthread on its own. When I get home I'll get a pic of the threaded side of the pivot. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J79 View Post
    Wow, thatīs one good looking bike!

    Kind of like the black&white theme of the SL better as the yellow on my Elite
    I'm happy with the black/white as well. Can't wait to get out and ride it!

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    JTHOPS

    That actually isnt the bolt I was thinking about so the theory I had is shot. The main reason that bolt would unthread is because when the shock compresses, it the link is making an arcing motion and can unthread a bolt either during compression or rebound. It think rebound for this bolt but dont quote me on it. It really depends where the friction is coming from.

    Its a common occurrence on all full suspension bikes and therefore lock tite is needed. Most likely it was fine from the factory but when you tightened it you broke the bond. I tend to re lock tite anything after I move the threads, only for those things that require it. It will work better than relying on the old drier stuff. This will also keep away the creaks from these bolts since you would not want to use grease on these threads. Do not use anything but blue loc tite for the easiest future maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Grumpy View Post
    Arrived yesterday (Wednesday) almost a month early. Lucky me!

    I stripped it and started building it last night. Still waiting on a few items which should be here this week.

    Sadly, I couldn't weigh the frame.

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    I don't have a frame weight either, but as a reference point my 19" SL is a bit over 28lb out of the box, complete sans pedals.

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    Totally agree with Baltistyle, when re-torquing bolts;

    just remove the bolt first, clean the threads and refit with a fresh layer of loctite, blue 243 Medium Strength.
    Just re-torquing a bolt often breaks the old loctite layer and has the opposite effect.

    Slightly related question, for my old Sugar and Fuel I have a nice diagram which shows the complete suspension assembly. Complete with the corresponding torque settings for all bolts, correct loctite compound (on the fuel and Sugar one bolt was glued in with 638 compound) and all Trek parts numbers for bolts and bearings. Anyone have such a diagram for the Superfly?

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    I believe the torques are all printed on the bolt heads.

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    2013 Superfly 100 Elite SL eta ?-269214_10151499000112453_1691715978_n.jpg

    Lost the reflectors and spoke protector, glued on a magnet and swapped cranks, also swapped saddle, stem and spacers/topcap. Threw on my chunky ATAC's and converted to tubeless. 26lb 10oz as pictured. Not nearly as light as the Elite out of the box but should be easy to take another 1.5lb off with a wheelset (I have nothing else with a rear through-axle .. for the moment).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthops View Post
    Well, I had my first race this weekend on the new SF100. 50 miles of technical and rugged racing in southern utah (True Grit 50). The bike handled great. It responded well, didn't drag on the technical ascents (in propedal), and it provided just enough forgiveness to keep me relatively comfortable. I still have a little to do to dial in the suspension.

    I did have one problem. The pivot bolt attaching the rear shock, came loose twice during the race. I torqued all bolts to spec when I got the bike a few weeks ago, but it looked like the threadlock (blue) was dry and of no use. Hopefully it is not a problem in the future, but something to keep an eye on.

    It's definitely a full suspension racer. Thumbs up.

    Here's the bike. An XL weighing in at 21 lbs 2 oz with pedals and cage. Roval control sl wheels, XX1 drivetrain, and a couple other changes.

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    Wow, that's impressive.
    My 2012 weighs in @ 25lbs and it feels very light (to me) and compared to my 30+ lb stump jumper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfdog93 View Post
    Wow, that's impressive.
    My 2012 weighs in @ 25lbs and it feels very light (to me) and compared to my 30+ lb stump jumper
    I'm coming from a Stumpjumper FSR (Many actually) as well. This year I finally decided to buy an actual XC bike. Look forward to riding it soon!

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    Converted to Tubeless tonight, finally got the rimstrips from the LBS.

    Set the bike up with 2.25 Michelin Wildgripp'r, clearance seems fine.

    Also changed out the cockpit, fitted a RaceFace Next Riser bar and Turbine Stem. Seems my position on the bike suits me much better.
    Just for fun put the new and old cockpit parts on the kitchen scale.
    Bontrager RXL Stem, 100mm, 133 gram
    Bontrager RXL bar, 690mm, 175 gram
    RaceFace Turbine Stem, 90mm, 132 gram
    RaceFace Next 3/4" Riser, 725mm, 184 gram

    Bontrager parts actually are actually right on target considered their weight. Was kind of a surprise for me.

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    Just took out the bike for a quick, 15km, testride.

    2.25 Michelin Wildgripp'r are great tires, here the ground was still frozen in places but the rest was like a mud bath. Those tires turn the bike into a monstertruck...

    New cockpit setup works great for me, looks great to... man to bad I don't have time to ride some more today...


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    I started this thread back in october. Just picked up my bike yesterday. waited 5 months
    live to ride ride to live

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    Awesome Multitool

    My wait was about five and a half months and worth every second. I hope it was built perfectly and you are out on the trail right now (after you clean, wax and protect it). I have ridden mine everyday that it hasnt been too wet and have not been disappointed at all and I am anal as can be. Enjoy and welcome to the club!

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    yup bike is amazing, what is your wax and protect procedure ?
    live to ride ride to live

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    2013 Superfly 100 Elite SL eta ?-img_0340.jpgI just use a high grade wax to stop stuff from sticking in the future. I use two layers of scotch 2228 moisture sealing electrical tape from the carbon armor to underneath the bottom bracket area and also anywhere the chain may go inside the front chainrings. Yes there is a metal plate there but I cover it all in TWO layers of tape so that if the chain ever comes off which it will, it will dig into the tape and not the carbon. Ive seen those plates rip right off. Those are my most important places to protect..Under BB and inside chainring area on down tube. Use as much or as little as you want. I use alot. I cut holes and slots in the tape for any cables and the drip hole on the bb. Some people also use Clear bra or other frame tapes to cover high wear areas like chain stays or higher up on the downtube than is protected from stock. I sent a picture but my bike is completely covered in dried mud right now and I have no intention of cleaning it anytime soon. The tape is very pliable and easy to shape and remove and a couple grams of protection goes a long way. You also want to protect any area wear the cables may rub as they will cut right into the carbon within a month or two without it. You can use lighter material for those areas.

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    Man these are looking good!

    I've been trying to hold off from the SL "shiny new thing", so been upgrading my 2011.

    Crest wheels, carbon post/bar/etc and XX1. I don't think it's going be quite 21.0 lbs like the one above, but I'm going to the scale tonight thinking it will be ~23 or so.

    -Tom

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    Picking up my Superfly Elite 100 today. This will be my first 29er.

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    Baltistyle, that's some good info. Speaking of cable rub, the new SL's barely have any problem areas. All of my cables come out of the internal cable route holes and clear away from the frame/headtube area. The only place where there may be rub is where the rear brake hose runs on the chainstay. The older Superfly's are awesome bikes but the engineering/design of these new SL's is more refined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFCuddy View Post
    Baltistyle, that's some good info. Speaking of cable rub, the new SL's barely have any problem areas. All of my cables come out of the internal cable route holes and clear away from the frame/headtube area. The only place where there may be rub is where the rear brake hose runs on the chainstay. The older Superfly's are awesome bikes but the engineering/design of these new SL's is more refined.
    That's definitely true, the routing is far and away better on this than the last generation -- and it is much better than it was on the Jet9 that the Superfly is replacing for me. Time will tell if I still feel that way when it comes time to replace the internally routed cables, but hoping for longer intervals given the sealed nature of the system.

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    Yes there is virtually no cable rub on the new bike, but I still protect it as a habit and also to prevent rub when leaning the bike on something or loading it in my car. With the front wheel off and laying sideways on the ground, the cables will scratch up the frame and since I often travel with my bike like that, the damage comes from transport, not design or riding. Also when bouncing around the trail, some rub does occasionally occur.

    Anyway these bike are friggin awesome and I've ridden every dry day. I would with my old bike anyway, but the new bike induces newbikeitis.

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    Seems like there is still a big delay on this model. Any ideas on if/how one might find shops with one on the floor in my size? I'd be willing to consider travelling regionally (NE) to pick one up.

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    You are going to have to call each local shop within Your driving distance or check the websites first and then call. Many of the websites have updated inventory by size....of course ordering from your local shop with a delay may allow some negotiating on price versus paying full retail to have it now IMO. However, I don't know the current back order wait period but I know there is probably no open stock.

    Good luck you'll love it

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