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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulX View Post
    I've been away since Thursday and just checked my tyre - the pressure has held. Does this mean the original rim strip that came with it is OK and tubeless ready?

    Also whats the deal with this little hole in the rim? It doesn't leak any sealant through it but just wondering why its there.
    likely so, but you may want to ride and test for sure. am not sure if ive seen a similar hole on my rims. will check it out later. which RF do you have again?
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    Re: 2013 rumblefish

    Not really a hole. I had been told it's a wear indicator of sorts when you use rim brakes. When the rim wears to the depth of the hole, replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    which RF do you have again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davez26 View Post
    Not really a hole. I had been told it's a wear indicator of sorts when you use rim brakes. When the rim wears to the depth of the hole, replace.

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    Ok - thanks. The hole is both the front and rear rims so its obviously meant to be there.

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    I went with the base model Rumblefish. I wasn't a big fan of the Elite colors, and the Pro was a little out of my budget. I'm happy with my purchase. Might be the only one on here with this model so far!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moron626 View Post
    I went with the base model Rumblefish. I wasn't a big fan of the Elite colors, and the Pro was a little out of my budget. I'm happy with my purchase. Might be the only one on here with this model so far!?

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    looks awesome just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moron626 View Post
    I went with the base model Rumblefish. I wasn't a big fan of the Elite colors, and the Pro was a little out of my budget. I'm happy with my purchase. Might be the only one on here with this model so far!?

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    Thats interesting, in Australia we dont get that model or the Elite,

    Its the Pro only.

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    Hey Moron626!
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    Your RF is beautiful, really really nice.
    I have the 2012 base RF.

    Enjoy Your RF as much as you can

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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    i may have found a solution to my earlier dillema. i use a THULE bike rack to transport my bikes. with the RF PRO's $300 Reverb seatpost i may damage the seatpost while it is being suspended on the bike rack using a YAKIMA tube adapter.
    contraption in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    likely so, but you may want to ride and test for sure. am not sure if ive seen a similar hole on my rims. will check it out later. which RF do you have again?
    The answer is the rim strips that come with the bike aren't tubeless ready .... despite what my LBS told me. Mr bapski is right!

    I ordered the correct strips from Trek, part number 406892 and used the Stans valves that I bought earlier.

    Rim strips just pop straight it - they are much tougher than I thought they'd be with a very defined groove which I guess makes the tyre sit in and seal.

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    Tyre on - measure of sealant in and pump it with the track pump. Tyre just popped straight on. Took about 10 mins per wheel.

    Only thing now is I don't get to ride it again till at least Wednesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulX View Post
    The answer is the rim strips that come with the bike aren't tubeless ready .... despite what my LBS told me. Mr bapski is right!

    I ordered the correct strips from Trek, part number 406892 and used the Stans valves that I bought earlier.

    Rim strips just pop straight it - they are much tougher than I thought they'd be with a very defined groove which I guess makes the tyre sit in and seal.

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    Tyre on - measure of sealant in and pump it with the track pump. Tyre just popped straight on. Took about 10 mins per wheel.

    Only thing now is I don't get to ride it again till at least Wednesday.
    yup thats the strip that i have.

    hey, paul can you take a picture of how your handlebar is positioned please? i think mine is positioned a bit weird. its positioned with the curve of the bar towards me instead of it probably going upwards.

    thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    yup thats the strip that i have.

    hey, paul can you take a picture of how your handlebar is positioned please? i think mine is positioned a bit weird. its positioned with the curve of the bar towards me instead of it probably going upwards.

    thanks.
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    I know my bell is not so cool but there are loads of walkers out and about on my trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulX View Post
    Here you are..
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    I know my bell is not so cool but there are loads of walkers out and about on my trails.
    thanks man. this just confirms my handlebars were set differently. may need to adjust it as i think its positioned weird.

    may have to get a torque wrench ? lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy1973 View Post
    Swapping out my 100 mm rhythm pro stem for a 70 mm 0 degree thomson elite x4 and picked up some rhythm pro carbon bars off eBay. Fitting tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.
    How are you getting on with that 70mm stem? only ask because I've noticed on the last few longer rides I've had that I may be over reaching and get a sore back. Thinking of a shorter stem just to bring the bars in a tad, and those Thompsons get good reviews.

    Apart from that I LOVE this bike!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ready805 View Post
    How are you getting on with that 70mm stem? only ask because I've noticed on the last few longer rides I've had that I may be over reaching and get a sore back. Thinking of a shorter stem just to bring the bars in a tad, and those Thompsons get good reviews.

    Apart from that I LOVE this bike!!
    I changed back to the rhythm pro mate. I found the front end way to light for me and it annoyed me in 2 ways. Far to easy to wheelie on climbs and lack of traction on the downhills.

    I certainly miss the look of the Thomson elite which really is a nice piece of kit. But I feel like I'm one with the bike with the 90mm one back on - flying

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    finally had some fun. rode with a buddy on snow covered and muddy trails with steep climbs, buddy had to dismount a couple of times while my BERTHA just climbed on.. lol..

    ONLY inconvenience i had was how i would touch with my left foot the cable(as seen on the last shot) from the dropper seat behind the seatpost. SIMPLE FIX was to turn the seatpost clamp at about 180 deg. and inconvenience was remedied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy1973 View Post
    I changed back to the rhythm pro mate. I found the front end way to light for me and it annoyed me in 2 ways. Far to easy to wheelie on climbs and lack of traction on the downhills.

    I certainly miss the look of the Thomson elite which really is a nice piece of kit. But I feel like I'm one with the bike with the 90mm one back on - flying
    was thinking of swapping my EC90SL RISER BAR & EC90SL STEM from my SUPERFLY, good thing you posted..
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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy1973 View Post
    I changed back to the rhythm pro mate. I found the front end way to light for me and it annoyed me in 2 ways. Far to easy to wheelie on climbs and lack of traction on the downhills.

    I certainly miss the look of the Thomson elite which really is a nice piece of kit. But I feel like I'm one with the bike with the 90mm one back on - flying
    Ok thanks for the update. Haven't been able to ride lately anyway due to the snow. I'll try adjusting the seat slightly, and see if that makes a difference on the next ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Stoke View Post
    Hi guys, my first post.........

    I did have a trek fuel ex 8 2010 (18.5) which got stolen, then got a cheap second hand top fuel carbon (18.5 inch) to get by until I found a new bike that suited. I looked around but never demo'd any bikes as the ones i wanted to try were never available.

    I settled on the rumblefish elite 2013 (19inch) , im 6ft2 and it seems a perfect fit. im very happy with the bike and it seems to fit most types of riding if your happto to flick between the different suspention modes.

    a few things i'd like to mention.

    On my first ride I was less than impressed with the suspension. It seems going off the recommended settings made the back to stiff and front too soft. I dropped 15psi out of the back, put 10psi extra in the front, slightly ajusted the rebound and the bike came alive.

    The supplied tyres are pretty good but tended to slip more id like on wet mud and rocks. I replaced these with Schwalbe Hans Dampf trailstar on the front, and the pacestar on the rear. these things are incredible and stick like s**t to a blanket !!!

    I find myself switching between the different modes quite a lot to get the most from the bike, I really wish there was a remote already fitted and im in the process of getting this done by mojo.

    The last point ....... in trail mode the bike feels great and your able to do fast downhill + uphil sections sections fine. switch into decent and its like floating on a magic carpet, possible to the point where it takes some of the fun out of the ride. The smile soon comes back when your having to brake and wait around for your friends to get out of the way as you fly past
    Ordered some schwalbe hans dampf's today for £55 for a set of trailstar and pace star from bike discount.de. Bargain much!

    Looking forward to fitting them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ready805 View Post
    Ok thanks for the update. Haven't been able to ride lately anyway due to the snow. I'll try adjusting the seat slightly, and see if that makes a difference on the next ride.
    Tell me about it ready. I've not been on the bike for 4 weeks

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    Anybody converted to a 2x10 yet? I've got the elite model and I've already tore up a bunch of the teeth on my big ring. I was thinking about just getting a bash guard, but wasn't sure if I should put a bigger middle ring on it or not.

    Is the rumblefish prone to pedal bob if you were to put a 36t ring on instead of the 32 that it comes with?

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    2013 rumblefish

    Typing "trek rumble fish 2013" in YouTube should get you a couple of hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VFRLuke View Post
    Anybody converted to a 2x10 yet? I've got the elite model and I've already tore up a bunch of the teeth on my big ring. I was thinking about just getting a bash guard, but wasn't sure if I should put a bigger middle ring on it or not.

    Is the rumblefish prone to pedal bob if you were to put a 36t ring on instead of the 32 that it comes with?
    I'm thinking of a 2 x 10 setup aswell Luke. Looking at getting a 38 26. I'm gonna ask my LBS for advice.

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    2013 Rumblefish Elite

    Here's my ride with xx1 crank/xt shadow plus rear derailleur. Not even a hint of a dropped chain and the trails aren't exactly buffed around Austin.

    Other modifications include:

    XT cassette
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    Sunline V1 bars 711mm
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    Weight is now 29.06 lbs according to Park scale (stock was 31.10 w/o pedals on same scale).

    Next upgrade is either an Arch EX or Chinese carbon wheelset.
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    I ride a '12 Pro, with a triple XTR crank. I also found found out that a 42 is NOT a bash ring :-) .

    I allready swapped the M980 24 for an M970 22, without problems.

    Last weekend i removed the bing ring and changed the 32 to a Blackspire M980X 34. Without bash, but with the "kcnc xtr m980 conversion kit". Looks quite nice!

    Lowered the standard Triple XT derailleur a few mm's: Front shifts are fine!

    btw: I have a Shadow+ derailleur, and have yet to shorten the chain.

    First ride in Nl yesterday: No noticable difference in bobbing yet, no dropped chains yet. We'll see what it does in the rougher stuff, but i think i'll be fine :-)
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    Great thread, lots info, have a question for you guys, might have missed it as there's quite a few pages to this thread, so I'll apologise from now.... Has anyone had a chance to ride both the Pro and Elite on some proper trails and for some decent time and can you give thoughts on the shock and fork? What I'm interested in is if there's really a difference in the "Factory" and "Evolution" lines and is it something very and easily noticeable?

    Besides the Factory vs Evolution, the only other big/real differences I'm seeing between the Elite and Pro are the dropper post and cassette and to a lesser extent the crankset. I'm thinking that if the shock/fork don't perform all that different, then a XT cassette can be had for <$70 and a dropper post for about $200-$250, no reason to drop the full extra $1220> for the Pro when $300 in upgrades will get you about there - I think SLX and XT are pretty damn close these days, especially for a less experienced rider. Crankset doesn't bother me as I've known people with the Deore crankset and besides being a bit heavier, they work well and last.

    FYI, not asking for myself, for a few friends currently on HTs and looking to upgrade after getting the bug fairly bad because they enjoy it and they've dropped some substantial weight in the process.
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    The upgraded fork/shock seemed to me noticably smoother on the demo ride I was on. You also get better wheels with the pro vs elite. I did notice while riding the RF pro it would carry momentum better than the SF 100 AL Elite I rode just after it. The XT shifters do feel more crisp than the SLX. Probably because the levers are aluminum vs plastic. The only thing with the RF Pro like you said dropper post. IMO they should not put one on from the factory and just drop the price. But probably a newer rider would not notice the XT upgrades.

    FYI this was on a demo event on actual trails for about 1 hour on the RF pro, SF 100 AL Elite, and Stache 8.
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    Re: 2013 rumblefish

    Anyone upgrade their fish wheels? Do tell.

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    I almost did 2 days ago. Spoke to a guy in the shop about it. I was gonna go for Flow ex with hope pro 2 hubs. They would have been an upgrade but my rhythm elite wheels seem pretty good and fairly light so I just changed tyres to schwalbe hans dampfs. First ride on em later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q-TECH View Post
    Anyone upgrade their fish wheels? Do tell.
    I bought my '12 Pro without the wheels. Built me a set of Hope/ Supercomp/ Pacenti TL28.

    Did this for weight, qualtity, and spare part availability. Oh, and bling off course, i even put these nice little green Hope stickers on them :-)

    ps: Pics and palaver on my '12 Pro here . In last years trim, still with the 42 on, by the way.
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    I'm a tubeless addict, went with lighter Stans rims. Had put 6000 miles on the old Bontrager rims, was having issues with too much play in the hubs.
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    I use 32 hole Duster rims laced to King hubs. All black, so not very fancy looking, but I like to move wheels around to different bikes and black goes with everything. I really like the Duster rims for weight and durability and ease of tubeless set up, I just prefer better engagement than Bonty hubs offer. And I'm not a Stan's fan. And as a side note, my rear King hub is about 7 years old. I overhaul the drive system every six months and use mineral oil (the Shimano brake fluid kind) to lube it. I did convert it to 142x12 a couple years back when that standard showed up.
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    Well, my friend went for the RF Elite and I helped him set it up and must say, quite impressed Didn't get to pedal it about the place and he only rides a 19" which is too small for me, but none the less felt pretty nice climbing the 10" high set of steps and going down them. Will say though, after owning an F34 with Kashima etc, the F32 on the Elite feels not very nice, very full of stiction, but with that lime green colour I highly doubt it's a fork that a shop would take on trade for a Kashima version
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    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss View Post
    I use 32 hole Duster rims laced to King hubs. All black, so not very fancy looking, but I like to move wheels around to different bikes and black goes with everything. I really like the Duster rims for weight and durability and ease of tubeless set up, I just prefer better engagement than Bonty hubs offer. And I'm not a Stan's fan. And as a side note, my rear King hub is about 7 years old. I overhaul the drive system every six months and use mineral oil (the Shimano brake fluid kind) to lube it. I did convert it to 142x12 a couple years back when that standard showed up.
    I'm considering doing the same thing as I'd really like to get better engagement. I do plan to powder coat my dusters for some added pop though. I was originally going to by all new but after quite a bit of reading it seems there's not much to gain by changing the rims. Are the CK hubs heavier than the stock RF/Bontys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Well, my friend went for the RF Elite and I helped him set it up and must say, quite impressed Didn't get to pedal it about the place and he only rides a 19" which is too small for me, but none the less felt pretty nice climbing the 10" high set of steps and going down them. Will say though, after owning an F34 with Kashima etc, the F32 on the Elite feels not very nice, very full of stiction, but with that lime green colour I highly doubt it's a fork that a shop would take on trade for a Kashima version
    I have the Elite and I've rode the Base model. Both had the stiction you described for the first few miles as the fork seals break in. After maybe 25-50 miles mine has been buttery smooth.

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    King hubs aren't as light as some other offerings, but probably a little lighter than the stock Bontrager hubs that Dusters get put on. Your biggest problem is going to be getting 28 hole King hubs to go with your stock RF Dusters. According to the website, they do offer them, but I've never seen them available through normal channels. Your dealer would probably have to get them direct from CK if at all. 32 hole Dusters can be had from Trek, but they're usually in short supply. My other set that are laced to Hopes originally came on my 2010 RF. The RF wheel spec changed to 28 spoke for 2011.
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    Re: 2013 rumblefish

    I'm pretty sure my dusters are 32 hole

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    I'm pretty sure my dusters are 32 hole
    I stand corrected I went out to the garage and counted they are indeed 28 hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q-TECH View Post
    I have the Elite and I've rode the Base model. Both had the stiction you described for the first few miles as the fork seals break in. After maybe 25-50 miles mine has been buttery smooth.
    I have the elite as well, and I was pretty unhappy with the fork initially, but it broke in just fine as well. I feel like the CTD is gimmicky though. I never use the descend setting.

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    Thanks for the replies guys, good to know that it just needs to be broken in some, will let the other guys know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Q-TECH View Post
    I have the Elite and I've rode the Base model. Both had the stiction you described for the first few miles as the fork seals break in. After maybe 25-50 miles mine has been buttery smooth.
    Quote Originally Posted by VFRLuke View Post
    I have the elite as well, and I was pretty unhappy with the fork initially, but it broke in just fine as well. I feel like the CTD is gimmicky though. I never use the descend setting.
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    Here's my fish with her new tyres fitted, they are great! 2013 rumblefish-image.jpg

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    Does anyone have Chris King's on their Rumblefish?

    I have the '13 RF elite and I'm about to buy the hubs for my new wheelset. I'm going with Chris King's, with Arch Ex or Wtb i23, just wanted some opinions on which color option to go with? I originally thought I'd go with the green hubs, but the Chris King green is not even close to the same color green on the '13 elite.

    So I've been considering either the silver, pewter, or black. I still like the green, just not sure how it would look with the Trek green.

    I know looks aren't that important, but when I'm spending this much on hubs I want them to look great!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy1973;10I QUOTE
    Here's my fish with her new tyres fitted, they are great! Click image for larger version. 

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    I've said it before & I'll say it again, that's a fine looking bike you got there Grundy!
    It took a while for me to get used to the bigger wheels and the full bounce but I've now got my elite pretty much running just right, & how I survived without a dropper post I'll never know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbcville View Post
    I have the '13 RF elite and I'm about to buy the hubs for my new wheelset. I'm going with Chris King's, with Arch Ex or Wtb i23, just wanted some opinions on which color option to go with? I originally thought I'd go with the green hubs, but the Chris King green is not even close to the same color green on the '13 elite.

    So I've been considering either the silver, pewter, or black. I still like the green, just not sure how it would look with the Trek green.

    I know looks aren't that important, but when I'm spending this much on hubs I want them to look great!

    Thanks!
    I'm in a similar boat. I'm curious about the pewter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q-TECH View Post
    I'm in a similar boat. I'm curious about the pewter.
    Yea, I think the pewter is on the top of my list right now, it's more interesting than black and will still go with most bikes if I switch them around. And these kings will outlast my Rumblefish. I also keep thinking about going with classic silver hub with silver spokes, but I'm not sure how well that would go with the rf elite.

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    I have kind of focused on bringing out the white in the Elite color scheme by going with white Answer handlebars, white Canfield pedals, and there is a small bit of white in my seat so I'm pretty sure I will be putting some white in my wheels. I have a friend that can powder coat my rims or maybe just a few of the spokes or I may leave the rims black and do all the spokes white

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    I am planning on a new 29er FS and my main contender is a stumpjumper fsr evo but someone locally is selling a 13 rumblefish pro for 2,600 and I am thinking that is to good of a deal to pass up.

    Any thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dubbaduba View Post
    I am planning on a new 29er FS and my main contender is a stumpjumper fsr evo but someone locally is selling a 13 rumblefish pro for 2,600 and I am thinking that is to good of a deal to pass up.

    Any thoughts?


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    way too good of a deal that id jump on it right away.. just make sure everything is legit and in order..
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    Re: 2013 rumblefish

    Quote Originally Posted by dubbaduba View Post
    I am planning on a new 29er FS and my main contender is a stumpjumper fsr evo but someone locally is selling a 13 rumblefish pro for 2,600 and I am thinking that is to good of a deal to pass up.

    Any thoughts?


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    If it really is a Pro, and all is legit, you cannot go past that deal.
    Jump on and ride it!!!!!
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