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    2011 Mamba vs. 2012 Mamba or Marlin

    My only riding experience off road has been on a 16" frame 10 year old women's frame Trek... and I currently have an Iron Horse Warrior 1.3 26er that's waaaay small for me ( I'm 6'3"). So when I tested a 19" 2011 Mamba 29er at my local shop, I INSTANTLY fell in love.

    For a "first bike" (at least new), I'm leaning towards a 29er. The 2011 Mamba was priced at $829 with 2 year maintenance, and I asked what the 2012 would be priced at and the owner said "probably more since it comes with hydraulic brakes and 9-speed".

    Is the 2011 worth the $829, or is the upgrades worth waiting for for a new biker? And should I consider a cheaper Marlin? I'm just apprehensive about shucking out $829 for this before comparing to other models...

    Thanks!

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    This is pretty much already a topic. Type '2012 Trek Mamba' into the search bar . I'm in the same boat though. I'm looking at a 2012 Marlin or Mamba. I don't want to spend a grand but the components on the Mamba are a hell of a step up. But I'm not a hardcore MTB rider so I'm probably just going to go with the Marlin. It's a great beginner bike.

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    Thanks, I searched the available topics and still have a lot of questions (which I'll be asking when I go to a different store tomorrow)...

    Now add to the mix that I just called a Trek dealer about 20 minutes from me... the guy said he has a 2010 Cobia for $850ish (and I'd ask for $800 OTD, just to see if they bite). Problem is, I can't find any information on the 2010's. And the guy also said the 2012's will be priced right around the 2011 Mamba...

    So it's now 2010 Cobia vs. 2011 Mamba vs. 2012 Mamba, all around the $800 price range.


    Questions; bear in mind I'm a beginner, pretty much fresh to trail riding.

    1)The 2012 Mamba comes with hydro brakes... are these inherently "better" than the BB5's that the 2011 comes with?
    2)9-speed vs. 8-speed? I was told by a shop guy that the chains on 9-speed are thinner, and more prone to breaking with a big rider like myself (6'4'' 250lbs)
    3)2010 Cobia I believe comes with a 80mm travel front forks... should that disuade me from considering that bike? Are 100mm better than 80mm?

    I'll come up with more questions I'm sure, and until then I'll try and find the answers outside the forum search bar... I'm gonna try and ride the Cobia and compare with the 2011 Mamba, but I'm still unsure if I should hold out for a few weeks until the 2012 comes around.

    Thanks in advance for advice

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    when will the 2012 mamba be available for purchase?

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    It's available now. I live in Ontario and it just got here. I beleive it's been available in the States for a while now. Call any bike shop that sells Trek bikes.

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    And Sxshep you should give a 21" frame or 22" frame if your 6'3
    I'm 6'6 and I'm riding a 23" frame. I rode a 19" frame before and it just seems rediculous that I was ever on one that small. Just a thought considering your fairly tall.

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    thanks kingoliver

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    I bought a 2011 mamba, and in some ways wish I had gone with a marlin. My decision came down between the marlin, mamba and cobia. I like my mamba, but I wish I had saved a bit of the money and gone with the marlin. They are both good entry level bikes, and yes the mamba is better, but at the end of the day it is still an entry level bike. You are eventually going to want something better.

    A 2010 cobia might be a good idea though, but I don't know the specs on it.

    Just my $.02 though.

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    here are the specs on the 2010 cobia (sorry, too lazy for formatting) or you can look here http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/cobia :
    Frameset
    Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21")
    Frame Platinum Series 6066 butted & hydroformed aluminum, cold-forged dropouts, G2 29" Geometry
    Front Shock RockShox Tora SL 29, 80mm travel, custom G2 Geometry 51mm offset crown, Solo Air, turnkey lockout
    Drivetrain
    Shifters SRAM X.5
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore
    Rear Derailleur SRAM X.5
    Cassette SRAM PG950 11-34 9spd
    Bottom Bracket Shimano ES25 Octalink
    Wheels
    Wheels Shimano M475 hubs, Bontrager Ranger Disc 29 rims, 32h
    Tires Bontrager 29-3, 29x2.0, 60 TPI
    Components
    Crank Set Shimano FC-M442 44/32/22 Octalink
    Saddle Bontrager Race
    Seatpost Bontrager SSR, micro adjust, 27.2
    Handlebar Bontrager Big Sweep, 600mm width, 15d backsweep
    Grips Bontrager Race Lite
    Stem Bontrager SSR
    Pedals Wellgo LU-216A
    Headset 1-1/8" threadless, semi-integrated, semi-cartridge bearings
    Brakeset Avid BB5 mechanical disc, 160mm rotors

    i would go for the 2010 cobia- has a better fork and the bb5 brakes did a good job for me (260 at my heaviest with this bike), but i'm in the flat midwest. i don't know for sure but the mamba and marlin might have coil forks- i would go with an air fork like the tora on the cobia.

    good luck and enjoy!
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    I'd go for that Cobia if it were me. Personally not interested in hydro brakes and 80mm vs 100mm is less than an inch. As a beginner I don't think I would notice the difference. LBS here can't even get the '11 Mamba. They are waiting on new stuff, sometime next month. Closest they have is a Redline D600 for $950. I like it except for the Dart 3. At 220 I want to be able to have some control over adjustment which I think would require a Tora with solo air at a minimum as far as Rock Shox go anyway.

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    I have the 2011 mamba 19" frame and im 5'11" i feel it fits me perfect i love my mamba ive had it for about 3 months maybe 4 i have no complant over it besides grips and saddle witch everyone has different taste in those. I also wouldnt get the 2012 because of the colors.

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    Trek mamba wsd

    I am a beginner and my bike shop recommended the 2012 mamba due to upgrades and just a few bucks more. But they have a man's frame. He stated that the frame is pretty much the same between men and women's except for the color, seat, handle bar thing (sorry forgot what it's called), but trek has not come out with 2012 yet for the WSD. So, first, opinions on the bike? And should I wait or get the man's bike. I'm 5'4, 125, and they are offering a nice little discount to take the men's bike. Thanks.

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    In the same boat...torn between 2011 Cobia or 2012 Mamba. Cobia is about $100 more, but I think it's worth that just for the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthawk7 View Post
    In the same boat...torn between 2011 Cobia or 2012 Mamba. Cobia is about $100 more, but I think it's worth that just for the fork.
    If you can wait a month for the 2012 Cobia they have upgraded to 10 speed sram X5 throughout and Hayes Hydro brakes. Same $$$

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    But I'd lose the 2011 discount...back to a $200 difference. Materially, I don't know if it's worth that to me. Also, I prefer the matte frame and I can't tell if the 2012 Cobia is matte or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthawk7 View Post
    But I'd lose the 2011 discount...back to a $200 difference. Materially, I don't know if it's worth that to me. Also, I prefer the matte frame and I can't tell if the 2012 Cobia is matte or not...
    I also liked the matte finish on the 2011 better. As much as I want the 2012 to be matte I know deep down that it won't be. Comparing it's photo to the others with matte finishes it defiantly has more shine to it. It's not a real deal breaker for me as I would rather have the upgrades. My LBS was having a sale so I am paying the same as I would have for the 2011.

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    Just got the new 2012 Trek Mamba
    What do you think?
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    2012 Cobia I love it! I waited and saved up for the 2012 cause of the upgrades. I also liked the chi red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wzupmane View Post
    2012 Cobia I love it! I waited and saved up for the 2012 cause of the upgrades. I also liked the chi red.
    What size is that? I am still waiting for mine in a 17.5.
    The more I see of the 2012 Cobia the more I am liking it. I really hope I get mine soon.

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    Mine is a 21. I ordered mine and it was at the Trek store in a week and put together that day.

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    I got my 17.5 cobia about 3 weeks ago so they're out there

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    My LBSs site is connected directly to Treks inventory and it only show 21 and 23 inch available. You must have received a limited first run.

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    yeah I was really surprised when they called and said they had it in.

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    They might have had a few for Trekworld. My lbs ordered mine as a back order and not regular stock hoping it might expidite it.

    How well do the brakes perform? Are they top notch?

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    It's my first experience (after a 10 yr layoff) with disk brakes! I like 'em but they lack a bit of feel...I think it's more of an experience thing for me. The guy at the LBS was hyped about them and said he loved seeing hayes on this bike. I haven't had any issues yet other than a bit of noise and dragging that was easily adjusted away.

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