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    2007 news

    Check cyclingnews.com for 2007 Trek+ Gary Fisher,

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    far better report here on the Hifi:

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2056

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    Hey, look! Trek's making Konas!
    I mean, seriously... LOOK at that chainstay.

    Ah well, they have a wind tunnel, and more money than any other bike company in the nation, i think it's a great idea to rip off a small company.

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    looks like a pretty good lineup to me. great to hear they want to recapture the hardcore mountain bike market again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekFan
    looks like a pretty good lineup to me. great to hear they want to recapture the hardcore mountain bike market again...
    ... by ripping off Kona designs.

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    listen mate, don't mean to be rude or start trouble, but i hardly think companies as large and powerful (and with HUGE r&d budgets) as the treks, giants, specializeds, etc. of the world are looking at bit players like kona for inspiration in frame technology...

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    dj,

    explain where the frame is ripping off a Kona please?

    unsymmetrical chain stays are a lift from the Cake, and the linkage a modified fuel which has been around for ages.

    There are only so many ways that you can linkage suspension and there is nothing too special about Kona to set themselves apart either. . . . at the end of the day its a single pivot like Kona, a design which manyother brands had done before Kona too.

    Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donboyfisher
    dj,

    explain where the frame is ripping off a Kona please?

    unsymmetrical chain stays are a lift from the Cake, and the linkage a modified fuel which has been around for ages.

    There are only so many ways that you can linkage suspension and there is nothing too special about Kona to set themselves apart either. . . . at the end of the day its a single pivot like Kona, a design which manyother brands had done before Kona too.

    Get over it.

    the asymemetrical stays are a lift from a Cake? Oh... wow, i had never thought of it that way. What year did the Cake come out again? I don't remember off the top of my head.

    What year did the Stinky come out? 1998? Weird. So that would make the Cake just a lift from the... No wait, that's just crazy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekFan
    listen mate, don't mean to be rude or start trouble, but i hardly think companies as large and powerful (and with HUGE r&d budgets) as the treks, giants, specializeds, etc. of the world are looking at bit players like kona for inspiration in frame technology...

    I would normally agree with you, and that's why this is so surprising, and a little funny.

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    there are plenty of other brands doing the same . . . look a specialized Epic - asymmetrical stays there too. . . .

    its not exactly rocket science to have the asymmetrical stays. the drive side one simply drops lower to avoid the front mech when the suspension activates. i'd hardly call that sort of thinking of " we need to move it to stop it fowling the mech " a magical design brilliance which Kona ( and I dont know if it was Kona that first brought it out ) should be fiercly applauded for to the exclusion of all other brands doing the same? At the end of the day, like i've already said, the Kona chain stay is a single pivot, and no more special than any other single pivot out there ( many of which came well before Kona's did )

    heck, it'd be like saying that the first frame designer to make curves in the chain stays allow bigger tyres should be the only designer to ever use it.

    like i say, get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djcrb9
    the asymemetrical stays are a lift from a Cake? Oh... wow, i had never thought of it that way. What year did the Cake come out again? I don't remember off the top of my head.

    What year did the Stinky come out? 1998? Weird. So that would make the Cake just a lift from the... No wait, that's just crazy!
    The Kona Stinky's are a Turner rip-off.

    There's only so many ways to design a suspension bike these days.

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    fisher hifi and no more cakes!

    well, i can't wait to hear the reviews on the hifi. i see a potential bike upgrade soon!

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    Diddnt see it mentioned, but will the Fisher Race Day FS 29'r also use G2 (like the non 29 inch version) and have a custom manitou fork (they only mentioned 2 forks and i dont theink either was a 29 inch one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baulz
    There's only so many ways to design a suspension bike these days.
    agreed!

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    Nope

    Quote Originally Posted by Krause
    Diddnt see it mentioned, but will the Fisher Race Day FS 29'r also use G2 (like the non 29 inch version) and have a custom manitou fork (they only mentioned 2 forks and i dont theink either was a 29 inch one)
    The Race Day 29ers are slated to be speced with the existing 29er Rebas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nater
    The Race Day 29ers are slated to be speced with the existing 29er Rebas.
    Thats kind of odd, that would mean their usin recycled 06 29er frames or they are losing the whole point of the new geomitry since they said that you could put a normal fork on the G2 geomitry bikes (talkin about 26ers) but it would negate the gain from the new design :/

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    The HiFi uses G2 geometry, NONE of the Racedays use G2.

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    Anyone know when the 07 models will be in the stores?

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    actually, i'll probably jump ship on the next bike and get a Stumpjumper fsr

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    Last Year...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoria
    Anyone know when the 07 models will be in the stores?
    Last year, the '06 bikes came out in July / August. I don't know if this means that the '07's will come out around the same time of year. I hope so. From the articles about the '07 bikes, it sounded like they were trying to finalize the part specs for the different levels of bikes. If that was still going on in early July, I would be impressed if they finalized the spec, placed orders with the parts manufacturers, received parts, assembled bikes, and shipped by the end of the month, but what do I know.

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    My LBS cliams they will have the 2007 Specialized bikes in the store in 2 weeks. Which 2007 models is unknown.

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    Another 2007 From Bicycling

    Yep, I might be able to deal with testing these rides around Crested Butte. 401, Deer Creek, Etc.
    http://thisjustin.bicycling.com/2006...new_07__1.html
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    Last edited by glovemtb; 07-17-2006 at 07:50 AM.

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    Singlespeed?

    Has anyone heard about the Singlespeed Trek is coming out with? I read about it in MBA... it has a 26" rear with a 29" front... its pink lol... Travis Brown has raced it... said it should be out for 2007.

    any one hear anything?

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    They're calling it the 69er...at least that's what it's appearing as for now. There's at least one thread on this site on the bike, a singlespeed with a custom Maverick fork and hardtail rear.
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    After selling bikes for over 10 years I've gotta say that a custom fork is a very bad idea.

    Trek should be pushing standard-ization, not one-off products. If they needed a custom rake fork they should have pushed the suspension manufacturers into making an adjustable rake fork, not a one-off item that can't be upgraded or replaced. Perhaps they should have asked Bontrager owners if they enjoy owning their custom fork crowns and trying to replace forks 5 years down the road.

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    more coverage...

    http://www.dirtragmag.com/web/article.php?ID=783
    This one talks about the TopFuel models and some vague pricing.
    The link to the photo forum should give some incite as to what they look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdiddy
    http://www.dirtragmag.com/web/article.php?ID=783
    This one talks about the TopFuel models and some vague pricing.
    The link to the photo forum should give some incite as to what they look like.

    Wow. Am I the only that doesn't believe the 20lb complete bike figure quoted for the Top Fuel SL? How much does a Top Fuel weigh now? 23lbs?

    -don

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    that bike looks hot. hey, anybody have any idea what the writing on the chainstays of the 07 line stands for? it looks like "TRT" or something like that. you can see it better if you click on the pic in the following link. its the spec list for the '07 8500 HT...

    http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007...tml#largerview

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    Changes...

    Quote Originally Posted by blehargh
    Wow. Am I the only that doesn't believe the 20lb complete bike figure quoted for the Top Fuel SL? How much does a Top Fuel weigh now? 23lbs?

    -don
    I think it's possible...disc brakes on the '06 Top Fuel and rim brakes on the '07 pictured above. Those are some really light tires pictured on the bike above too. Couple that with the carbon tech that they've been using on the road side of things (OCLV Boron from the Madone SSLx or OCLV 55 from the Madone SSL) and you've got some weight loss.

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    Hello,
    I'm louxor. I live in France and i'm interrested to buy a trek bike.
    I search a bike for marathan and long distance.
    Do you thnik that Top fuel 9.9 is better or EX 9.5 2007 ?
    Thanks for you reply.
    Regards,

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    The Trek team uses Top Fuels for the endurance events, 24 hour races, etc.

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    Update, I was told by my shop that 07's won't be out until September / October.

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    I thought they used the EX line up?

    Either way, you can't go wrong.

    Personally, I would take th EX over the TopFuel, just because of the extra travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Liquid
    I thought they used the EX line up?

    Either way, you can't go wrong.

    Personally, I would take th EX over the TopFuel, just because of the extra travel.
    Ok thanks for your reply.
    I've seen that 2007 Top Fuel have 90 mm rear and 100 mm fork
    .....and 2007 EX have 120 mm rear and 90/130 mm front.
    => Can your confirm me this information ?

    => Do you more détail about fork for Top Fuel 9.9 and EX 9.5 ?

    I'm sure that Top Fuel is better for output and EX have more better to all type of ride.

    regards,

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    For the TopFuel 9.9 - FRONT SUSPENSION: Manitou R-Seven Platinum Snap Valve w/air pressure, SPV pressure, rebound, 100mm

    For the EX 9.5 - FRONT SUSPENSION:Fox Talas RL w/air pressure, travel, rebound, lockout, 90-130mm

    The TopFuel has 90mm of rear travel, and the EX has 120mm of rear travel.

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    Thanks very much jpat.
    Have you more information about price and wheight ?
    Regards

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    Hey jpat, got a link like that for Fisher bikes?

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    Unfortunately I don't have any more information. I'll keep searching and if I come across anything new I'll post it here....

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    i like !!


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    Pricing?

    Does anyone know pricing on the TopFuels yet? Specifically the 8 and the 9.8.

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    by bumping up the rear travel of the new fuel ex, did they do so by increasing the leverage on the shock? I've always thought lower leverages equal smoother more active suspension
    the new hifi looks nice!
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    go-hifi.com mmm mmm good.... i'm not bias... just b/c i own one! lol



    And all i have to say about the Kona is; any change will be in improvement. The Kona Kahuna I rode didn't set my heart on fire at all.
    I ride faster than I should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbertom
    by bumping up the rear travel of the new fuel ex, did they do so by increasing the leverage on the shock? I've always thought lower leverages equal smoother more active suspension
    the new hifi looks nice!
    new shock stroke new links, still a low ratio

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