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    Quote Originally Posted by hansmeiser View Post
    ok,hope you guys can see my mint green br ( first try to upload a pic) :
    Looks sick!

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    Now its done.

    Quote Originally Posted by modelo151 View Post
    Heres mine. Still a work in progress.
    I think this is my finished bike, but you never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modelo151 View Post
    I think this is my finished bike, but you never know.
    Looks awesome! Would love to get one of these and build it similar.
    6'5" 230lbs
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    Still stock for the most part - wheels have been changed up for Stan's ZTR Flows (-1.8 lbs!!) and the saddle swapped for a WTB. Pennies will now be set aside for a 36 Van 160.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    Still stock for the most part - wheels have been changed up for Stan's ZTR Flows (-1.8 lbs!!) and the saddle swapped for a WTB. Pennies will now be set aside for a 36 Van 160.

    Nice what hubs? Haha shedding some weight already. That stock build is so heavy but a pretty good deal.
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    Yeah even though I knew I'd change out a bunch of it eventually it was still probably cheaper than piecing it together. Haven carbon bar and Havoc stem on the list as well, and some lighter cranks. Then it'll be pretty much done till I break or wear out stuff.

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    Here's mine, built-up and christened @Downieville


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    So i've been lurking around this forum for a long while, but never posted much.

    I was googling for ideas to lighten up my 3 year old Bottlerocket when I came across this thread again, so I thought I might as well keep this thread going and (finally!) post up some pics as well

    So here is my tribute to my favourite bike for the last three years









    After so long I still cant decide if I want to put the frame decals on, I quite like the clean look at the end of the day I guess, though I did feel inspired when I saw Zippo's black/red Transition decals, so I tested it out and i think i might actually put them on later hehe.

    Should look something like this



    Frame: Bottlerocket V1 2008
    Fork: Marzocchi 66 RC3 180mm
    Drivetrain: Shimano XT
    Cranks: Shimano Hone
    Wheelset: Transition Revolution 32
    Tires: Panaracer CG all mountain 2.35
    Brakes: Magura Lousie BAT Carbon 203/180 Venti discs
    Seatpost: some cheap FSA thing
    Saddle: Deity FR (awesome)
    Handlebar: Deity 2014 bar
    Stem: Deity 50mm
    Grips: Cannondale V grips

    ~40lbs (hence looking to trim some weight)

    uphills are a struggle especially with such a heavy fork, but the downhills really make it worth it

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    Mine has evolved all season and is now finished for the time being, too....but as said above, you just never know......





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    Cool "AM" pic...


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    What size seatpost for a 2010 BR? Thanks
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    how does it ride with the boxxer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu View Post
    What size seatpost for a 2010 BR? Thanks
    30.0mm I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu View Post
    What size seatpost for a 2010 BR? Thanks
    30.0mm Seatpost /34.9mm Clamp - 2007 onwards

    31.6mm Seatpost/34.9mm Clamp - 2011

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    2007 BR New Life

    Here's my 2007 BR that I keep aside for few years.
    After end up my Ironhorse 7Point3 for some reason, I am now back to setup it up again for 2012.
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    My Bottle

    There is my Bottlerocket. Now use SLX 2012 Brakes and Funn Fatboy DH 785 handlebars
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    Thats a beauty, man I love that color.

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    My 2011 Bottlerocket build...

    After building my Vagrant in í06; Transition introduced the Bottlerocket. Iíve wanted one ever since.

    While looking for used BRís I realized Iíd end up swapping a lot of parts so I decided to build one. I could have waited and gone with a 2012 but the price was too good to pass up for the 2011. ;-)

    I thought Iíd throw a couple iPhone pictures up here for a quick look.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BSyl-zqbVItsYlz1EAAD3wqjotMgcfpTidKWX0pvmng?feat=embedw ebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KJ6RnIrTM-Q/T06E056WK7I/AAAAAAAAEhQ/Ndu4DZgSaXU/s800/IMG_0391.JPG" height="598" width="800" /></a>

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    really good! with fox forks is amazing!

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    take the decals in black. looks cleaner and the deity decals are in black too...

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    mine, picture speaks 4 itself,

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    Quick shot of my build. Transferred parts from previous heckler! Everything fits.
    New: Frame, Headset, MRP chain guide and 135mm drop out. (original 142mm kept for future usage)

    Planned changes: Lighter fork and nicer seat. WTB does not go well here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ussr View Post
    Quick shot of my build. Transferred parts from previous heckler! Everything fits.
    New: Frame, Headset, MRP chain guide and 135mm drop out. (original 142mm kept for future usage)

    Planned changes: Lighter fork and nicer seat. WTB does not go well here...
    Sweet! First 2012 ive seen...Love the lime.

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    Something different, i love the size guide.

    There does not seem to be a guide on recommended fork length on transition web. I've gone thru the thread and seen boxxer fork! haha... what would u guys recommend?
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    Good job! v.1 BR with v.5-like cable routing

    Since Aug '07, I've been happily riding my v.1 BR (small), and it's still going strong (while I broke twice in that time: right leg in fall '09, and right shoulder this month).

    Although I love the clean look of the cable routing with v.1 BR (thru v.4), I got tired of cable housing being shredded, sliding in-&-out of cable stops with suspension cycling. So, (with a bit of down time now), I finally decided to re-route them sorta like v.5 BR, especially now that I'd come across these neat alloy stick-on's...
    Stick-On Guides | Jagwire USA

    ... as oppose to these traditional black plastic stick-on's that were making me not want to re-route...


    As for these nice alloy ones, they come in black (found on a few online shops), and silver (for my raw frame), which was harder to find. I finally found them on eBay, being shipped from Taiwan (still got here within a week, no prob). Other than the cool alloy looks, what's also great about these is that they are pretty thin, so you can very easily bend them to conform to the surface, whether a big-fat round downtube or square chainstays. (As for rear-drlr cable housing on drive side, it's just put through a Lizard Skins neoprene chainstay protector, sorta mimicking v.5 chainstay-internal routing.)

    I think it all came out pretty good in the end. (What do you guys think?)
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    Nicely done PiroChu, looking at your pics puts me at ease knowing that the shock mounted this way gives us very little room for adjustments. Being totally new to BRs, am having hell of a time trying to figure out shock direction, 130/150 mountings.

    Won't the front D cable still wear and tear in the same position?

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    This thing is where I want it to be......




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    Anyone considered running the new RS vivid air r2c on BRs?

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    Transition Bottlerocket 2009
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    Shimano Saint cranks, rear derailleur and trigger
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    Here's my red bottlerocket 2011





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    Finally finished my 2011 BottlerocketÖ

    After many months of looking at it I finally finished the BR.

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    Transition Bike Co. Bottlerocket (2011 / medium / black)
    Fox DHX RC4 (2011)
    Fox 36 TALAS 180 FIT RC2 w/Kashima (2012)
    Cane Creek 110-Series (black)
    Thomson X4 w/ Thompson Top Cap (black / black)
    Easton EA30 Monkey Bars 685mm
    Shimano Saint M810 9spd
    Front: Hope Race Evo M4 203mm / Rear: Hope Race Evo M4 183mm
    ODI Ruffian Lock-on w/Hope Grip Doctor Bar Plugs (black / black)
    Straitline De Facto Platform (black)
    Saint M810-1 170mm / e*thirteen Guidering 32t /Sinz Chainring Bolts ( - / black / black)
    e*thirteen LG1+
    Thomson Elite w/ Hope Quick Release Seatpost Clamp (black / black)
    WTB Silverado Pro
    Shimano XT/Ultegra HG93 9spd
    Shimano Saint/SLX 9spd HG80 11-34t
    Shimano Saint 9spd M810-SS
    Front: Hope Pro 2 Evo 20mm w/Mavic EX823 / Rear: Hope Pro 2 Evo 10mm Bolt-up w/Mavic EX823 (blue / blue)
    Kenda CARTER EXCAVATOR UST DTC 26X2.35
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    I get to be the newest person on the thread to pick up a BR:


    It's a 2008 that I picked up on friday and took it for a proper ride today. Really, really like this bike.

    size Medium
    Lyric with uturn (need to get a medium spring)
    DHX 5.0
    2x9 SRAM drivetrain
    Juicy 5 (swapping out for a pair of Avid Code 5 on my enduro that I'll be selling)
    Sun Ringle MTX wheels w/ Nevegals (swapping for the Crossmax SX w/ Minion DHFs from my Enduro, will keep a set of MTX wheels for backup/bikepark days; I have two sets now. :s)
    Random Seatpost (planning on getting some sort of adjustable)
    WTB Saddle
    Raceface Atlas FR (not in picture)

    I felt like I was pushing my Enduro too far into the FR category (my perspective at least ) and started looking at Bottlerockets. It seemed like a FR bike that I could push into AM territory. I got to find out today that it was exactly what it was. I took it up a long 4 mile fireroad climb for an equal length downhill. Not a real technical downhill. Just a mellow grade with roots and rocks and a couple small drops. It took me a little while to figure out how to jump this thing off of small trail features. Once I did, it made the ride lots of fun. On my Enduro, I would just plow through everything since it was set up pretty plush. The BR was considerably stiffer so plowing didn't seem to work as good. I figured out that it was more fun to just pop and jump root sections. Had smiles all the way down.

    The fork seems a bit too stiff for me. I think i'd like something a little more plush. I think its a firm spring, but i'll have to open 'er up and find out. Initially, I wanted to keep the Xfusion Vengeance HLR off of my Enduro. However, the ability to reduce the travel and alter the frame geo made the bike much more versatile. After the downhill portion of my ride today is an XC portion that takes you back to where you started. I remembered about halfway through that I could adjust travel. As soon as I did that, the XC portion was waaaay better. I found myself clearing sections that I couldn't do on my Enduro. This was what confirmed that I had made the right purchase. I was totally blown away since the BR is at least 5lbs heavier.

    Later this week I'll be able to get to my usual riding spot. Its a local bikepark (non-lift access) that has a mix of some XC trails and freeride trails. I'm very much looking forward to this.

    I'm also toying with the idea of getting a 2-step totem. It would be great to have that fork for lift access riding, but still be able to drop it low for days like today with lots of pedalling. finding one of those for a super good price will prove to be difficult though. I'm talking in the $300-$400 range.

    -joel

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    In the works... '07 Model. All stripped and ready for reassembly.
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    almost there:




    now with more RaceFace Atlas FR, Shimano Cranks, Crossmax SX wheels, and Code 5 brakes.

    Still to come are an adjustable post and totem. and possiblly red Azonic Outlaws down the road. I kinda like the weight of hte Crossmax wheels though.

    -joel

    edit: didnt realize I had moved these pics so updated with lates pic. includes Totem and RASE adjustable post now.
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    Anyone know why they are getting rid of the Bottlerocket for 2013?

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    No idea - they are doing away with the Blindside as well

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    The blindside used to be their dh bike right? I can see that going away since the 450/250 exist. Doesn't seem to be anything else to cover the BR. Though. Maybe something is in the works and remains unannounced. does the 250 fill the same niche?

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    Yeah, kinda wierd not having a BS or BR in the lineup...I mean Transition to me means freeride and fun!

    I really hope they fill the void and combine the two into a 175mm ish AM/FR slayer. The dudes at TR admit the 250 isnt a bike you want to pedal around much and for me the covert just isnt what I want to tackle the bike park with.

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    The 2012 BS is described as "big all-mountain" on TR's website. It has as much travel as the TR250 but can be peddled without too much effort. I have mine set up 2x10 & it kills the bike park as well as all-mtn epics. The new Covert looks like it can just about fill the BS's spot in the line up. They should come out with a Covert SX - 170 f&r travel & coil rear?
    Maybe the double covers the Bottlerocket's place since SS bikes are all short travel now? The Bottlerocket is almost an icon at this point, seems like an odd choice to give up on it now.

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    I just dont think they were selling anymore. I havn't seen any of the 2011 yellow or raw frames built up. Just the red and black with the stripe on the T.T. Maybe they have just run there course

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    I see bottlerocket's all the time at Highland... still a shame... we should all send emails telling them to keep it on!

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    well, since the 2013 lineup is now on Transitions website, I thought I'd post up my BR in honor of its absence.

    only changes from a few posts up is a new Transition Temple Lite 1.5 stem and the Transition sticker. The stem was only $20 so I wanted to jump on it. I prefer it over the gravity one I had on there. I felt like the bike was a little plain so I added the sticker.



    love this bike.

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    i'm not surprised that they stopped making new BR frames. i don't think the br has lost its appeal as a bike whatsoever, i still get compliments on mine and i love the thing to death. its the perfect 'fun bike' at places like winter park, or anywhere with nice flowy trails.

    but, the fact is, if you want a BR you can score one pretty easily used, and they were built to last forever. i think they probably stopped selling that well because there are so many of them out there. TBC built such an awesome, popular and long lasting bike that frankly i think the market hit a point where it just didn't need anymore of them.

    i'm busy giving mine its yearly rebuild. 1st gen BR still rocking the original bearings after thousands of miles and over 150 days of list serviced ridding, still love her like the day i got her her!

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    Rebuild is complete, she's ready to tackle the 2013 season as my favorite lift serviced play bike once again.

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    Hey Euroford, I'm with you on this one. I'm still rocking my V.1 BR and love it as much as the day I got it! I've recently been toying with the idea of getting a Hammerschmidt set up too, how is yours treating you? Any pros and cons, or real world feedback? Also what rims are you running?
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irlbiker View Post
    Hey Euroford, I'm with you on this one. I'm still rocking my V.1 BR and love it as much as the day I got it! I've recently been toying with the idea of getting a Hammerschmidt set up too, how is yours treating you? Any pros and cons, or real world feedback? Also what rims are you running?
    Thanks
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    the hammerschmidt is an AWESOME addition to the bottlerocket, as you can keep the rear end supple while retaining awesome pedaling characteristics. its been a great part, i've put about 4,000 (yes thousand) miles on it with zero maintenance or issues. slight weight penalty, but no big deal.

    the rims are alex dx32, super burly wide trials rims. i sort of bought them as a novelty, but they have turned out to be insanely durable and make for a nice wide footprint which has proven advantageous for all of the resort ridding that i do.
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    build questions

    my build:
    large raw
    180 domain rc fork
    loaded:handlebars, stem, grips, dh wheels and pedals
    shimano xt brakes 203mm rotors f & r
    shimano 10sp cassette
    race face turbine crank 175mm
    gravity dropper turbo seatpost
    dh tubes and 2.5 kenda nevagal dh tires

    needless to say this porker weighs 42 pounds and i want to lighten it up to make it more trail friendly.

    i am looking to make some changes and have some questions:
    1. will putting a 20mm spacer in the fork make it have the same settings as a 160mm fork? (i wonder if i should have put the shorter fork on it, but i wanted to make it a mini dh bike) would a 160 fork hold up for a hard rider weighing 215 pounds? i wanted a coil for ease and durability.

    2. if i change the cranks to 170mm how will it change the bike? (i am a long 6'2)

    3. how many of you run 70mm stems? (with the 50 on it the cockpit was extremely cramped)

    this is my first full suspension bike so i kind of wanted it to cover dh and all mountain. i was torn between this bike and the blindside but was convinced that this bike would be more versatile. i live in pennsylvania (short steeps, rocks and roots). i wanted a bike that wasn't complicated and required a lot of maintenance. my 29er hardtail has a talas fit rlc and there are too many knobs on the fork for me, and i don't use the 120 setting. i probably should have put a travel adjust on this bike, but i didn't know of any coil travel adjust until after i selected parts.

    i broke the pedals and waiting for new ones so once they come back i will post pics.

    i probably will have more questions but i can't think of anymore. somebody on one of these forums suggested i get a covert but i plan on doing more dh stuff this year.
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    Built the V1 back up as "something different" to ride and have a bike for friends that want to ride, but don't have a freeride/DH bike. Domain Fork, Outlaw Wheelset, Zee Cranks, X9/X7 Shifting, XT Brakes, Deity Bars and Pedals. She's a tank, but super solid.
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    Guswalls, try some different tires. I went from nevegals to minions and felt they roll better and lighten things up. What wheelset? I went to some all mountain wheels and shaved a bunch of weight there. They seemed to hold up ok on some lift access runs. In terms of fork, if you want to make it all mountain, I think the talas 180 might be the way to go. Sure its got a lot of knobs, but you can just set it one time and be done. I plan to add one to my bike. I think it will make the bike super versatile. Dh, Fr, DJ, xc trail. Truly all mountain.

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    i have loaded dh wheels. i will put thinner tires for non park riding, but wondering if it is better to get a wheelset that is tubeless or change forks.

    i wonder about the talas 180, but i don't know if i can spend a grand on this bike. i can sell my current fork but i don't know how much to ask for it
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    Thread Revival! Give me reason to keep or sell this!

    Keep and load a dual crown? Whats the max spring length i can go for?


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    Because you will kick yourself in the ass at some point for selling it!!

    No need for a dual crown, just a silky smooth single crown 180mm fork and you are good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guswalls View Post
    i have loaded dh wheels. i will put thinner tires for non park riding, but wondering if it is better to get a wheelset that is tubeless or change forks.

    i wonder about the talas 180, but i don't know if i can spend a grand on this bike. i can sell my current fork but i don't know how much to ask for it
    Donít wonder about the TALAS 180; I think itís worth every penny!

    We do a lot of climbing on and around Galbraith and I use my BR for all of it. If you drop the TALAS to 140mm and raise the seat post it makes for a good climber, but you probably know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgjeff View Post
    Because you will kick yourself in the ass at some point for selling it!!

    No need for a dual crown, just a silky smooth single crown 180mm fork and you are good!
    I agree!
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    Transition Bottlerocket Photo Album

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    can someone tell me what is the long and what the short setting in the rear?

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    in that pic it is in the short setting.
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    That color scheme with the silver and purple is pretty rad.

    also, is that a tapered HT? What year did Transition do that?

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    2011. in 2012 TR changed to the new droput system. Then it died.

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    Almost put mine up for sale last weekend. I was eyeballing the GT Distortion in hopes of something that will climb well, but still pop and be fun to ride on trails. Its climbing prowess did not make up for the loss in stability and descending confidence I have with the BR. Maybe I didn't give the GT a fair enough trial, but I rode it back to back with the BR and the BR is just rad.

    So, maybe I just need to make the BR a better climber. Suspension wise, I have a coil totem and a dhx 5. I'm going to trade rear shocks with my buddy that has a BR also and see if I like the dhx 5 air. Otherwise, is the RP23 enough shock for this bike? I'd probably keep the dhx for lift access days.

    In terms of a fork, I like the geo of a 180mm fork for descending. Climbing with the totem is not a joyous occasion, but I don't know if its the geo or the weight. If I picked up a 180mm air sprung fork, would climbing still feel the same? Or since the geo is still mostly the same, should I be looking at a 160mm fork? Is the 180 talas the way to go?

    I think my Crossmax SX wheels are a pretty good balance of weight/strength. But the 2.5 minion DHF/R are probably not the lightest tires out there. If I remember, there's a couple companies that make tires with very similar tread design. Like the Spec butcher. Any tires for the Northwest that someone can recommend?

    Looking forward to another season aboard the BR.

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    Your best bet to help with climbing is lighter tires. i would try that before ditching the coil suspension. 66 deg HA with a totem right? I dont think thats too slack for climbing unless youre xc racing.. Butcher Control 2.3"s front and back (tubeless) or even an sx 2.5 on the front, should save you quite a bit of weight and still be nice and grippy.
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    i am still selling mine. it has been on pink bike for too long without any real bites. if anybody is interested or knows someone interested in a full build or a large raw frame with extras. please pm me. i listed the bike on this site but could not figure out how to link the post to the forums.
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    good luck. Its so hard these days to sell 26" 'freeride' bikes these days for a worthwhile amount of money. I had my blindside for sale for months best offer I got was $1300 (I put 4 grand into it). Screw that, Ill just keep it.
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    I guess I hadn't thought of going tubeless. I always thought of it being more of a hassle. But I guess it just requires some forethought. I'll have to go look and check out the process.

    My friend wanted to try coil so we are still going to trade just to demo it. Doesn't hurt anything.

    I'm also checking if I can get my hands on the rocker from the last gen BR and blindside. From what I've read (in only two spots) is that the rear end just feels stiffer in the 130 mode. Maybe that'll be enough to help with climbs too. Anyone have that experience?

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    stopped for a quick pic along a service road climb to the goods.



    I still haven't made any changes in terms of lightening her up yet. My rear tire is starting to look pretty beat. I'll be looking at tires pretty soon. I could probably stand to go with a smaller rear rotor to save a smidgen of weight also.

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    help with what year this is

    anybody know what year this bottlerocket is?Transition Bottlerocket Photo Album-01313_24bainhoss8_600x450.jpg

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    Pretty sure it's 2010

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    sweet thank you very much, and is $700 a good buy price with x9 derailer, saint crank, fox float fork and shock? I want to put an 11 spd cassette and dropper post, light tires and use it as an all mountain

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    $700 seems alright to me. Its not going to be the best AM bike out there. Its a super fun bike, but I wouldn't list climbing as one of its strengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    $700 seems alright to me. Its not going to be the best AM bike out there. Its a super fun bike, but I wouldn't list climbing as one of its strengths.
    I hear you, right now I ride a 2011 Intense Tracer 2 weighs 33 lbs, marzocchi fork, 3x10 set up and I climb it everywhere...I dont mind pushing it up every now and again, but I need it to be solid on the downhill and am willing to sacrifice on the uphill to get there

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    I used mine as a trail/do-everything bike. The only times I felt limited were on steep climbs (already discussed) and really steep, rocky descents. It handled everything reasonably well. I just had to slow down and pick my lines carefully when things got steep and technical.

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    sounds good to me, i've been practicing going faster on the downhill rocky technical sections of my local singletrack and scanning the trail further ahead so as to pick the best line, i'm going to pull the trigger on this bike, thanks for the info

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    Broke my Heckler swingarm (for the third time), so I shopped for an indestructible frame and found a Bottlerocket (2 lbs heavier!). Transferred all my parts to the frame but didn't like all the scratches so I stripped and semi-polished the frame (too much work to do chrome-like finish). Also changed out the bearings, bored out seat post tube (dropper post) and installed an Angleset (66.1 deg now). Frame and fork decals to come.

    I know, I know... it's the "limited edition" pink but it was all scratched up.
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    Quick strip, sand, buff and polish job.

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    Wanted one of these for years - picked up this frame off pinkbike a few weeks ago and I freakin' love it!! Transferred the kit off my Cove STD (that thing was a blast but waay overkill and too heavy for my 9 stone heft ) and rebuilt the rear wheel = perfect DH bike for tiny folk. I've always been a coil fan but the Totem 2 Steps and BOS Vip'r have been faultless so far and hey, I can actually lift this thing over gates . . . win!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron m. View Post
    Broke my Heckler swingarm (for the third time), so I shopped for an indestructible frame and found a Bottlerocket (2 lbs heavier!). Transferred all my parts to the frame but didn't like all the scratches so I stripped and semi-polished the frame (too much work to do chrome-like finish). Also changed out the bearings, bored out seat post tube (dropper post) and installed an Angleset (66.1 deg now). Frame and fork decals to come.

    I know, I know... it's the "limited edition" pink but it was all scratched up.
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    Bike looks excellent! I'm about to build one up and possibly strip the paint. Yours has sealed the deal for me. Did you clear coat it or just leave it? And I noticed the dropper post, how does it pedal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrew11 View Post
    Bike looks excellent! I'm about to build one up and possibly strip the paint. Yours has sealed the deal for me. Did you clear coat it or just leave it? And I noticed the dropper post, how does it pedal?
    Thanks, Dcrew.

    I have mixed feelings about this bike as a trail bike. Here are my thoughts:
    Pros
    -short rear chainstays equal playful bike
    - surprisingly super-fast on the descents (I beat all my Heckler Strava times the first time I rode this bike... even had a top-ten on a pretty gnarly section... 10-second improvement on a 1 minute track)
    - jumps really well

    Cons
    - heavy as a mofo (35.7 lbs... I've read guys who have theirs at 28 lbs so you can lighten it up if you're judicious with your parts)
    - not pedal-efficient (but this could be due to my tire choice and the fact that it is heavy). I made the mistake of demo-ing the new Mojo 3 (with the big fat 2.8 tires) and as much as I hate pedaling, I took off on the Mojo. When I got back on this bike, I wanted to cry.

    Really, if you built the legs up enough (and maybe have lighter wheels/tires), this could be an AWESOME trail bike. I have an angleset on it too which makes its geometry very modern. I am even faster on this bike than I am on the new Nomad.

    No clear coat on the surface... I just periodically give it a polish when it dulls up (pretty easy).

    And yes, the dropper post is a must. Trail riding will never be the same without one. If you don't want to bore out the seat tube, you can buy a 27.2 dropper post (KS, X-fusion, Gravity) and use a shim.

    Post your project when you're done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron m. View Post
    Thanks, Dcrew.

    I have mixed feelings about this bike as a trail bike. Here are my thoughts:
    Pros
    -short rear chainstays equal playful bike
    - surprisingly super-fast on the descents (I beat all my Heckler Strava times the first time I rode this bike... even had a top-ten on a pretty gnarly section... 10-second improvement on a 1 minute track)
    - jumps really well

    Cons
    - heavy as a mofo (35.7 lbs... I've read guys who have theirs at 28 lbs so you can lighten it up if you're judicious with your parts)
    - not pedal-efficient (but this could be due to my tire choice and the fact that it is heavy). I made the mistake of demo-ing the new Mojo 3 (with the big fat 2.8 tires) and as much as I hate pedaling, I took off on the Mojo. When I got back on this bike, I wanted to cry.

    Really, if you built the legs up enough (and maybe have lighter wheels/tires), this could be an AWESOME trail bike. I have an angleset on it too which makes its geometry very modern. I am even faster on this bike than I am on the new Nomad.

    No clear coat on the surface... I just periodically give it a polish when it dulls up (pretty easy).

    And yes, the dropper post is a must. Trail riding will never be the same without one. If you don't want to bore out the seat tube, you can buy a 27.2 dropper post (KS, X-fusion, Gravity) and use a shim.

    Post your project when you're done!
    Thanks for the response! I'm glad it does well on the freeride/DH side. It is a beast of a bike stock, so I'm working on putting this build on a diet. I'll have to post up how it is going! Would a lockout function on the rear help in climbing or is it the general geometry and front fork that is the culprit in your opinion?

    Also what did you use to strip the frame paint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrew11 View Post
    Thanks for the response! I'm glad it does well on the freeride/DH side. It is a beast of a bike stock, so I'm working on putting this build on a diet. I'll have to post up how it is going! Would a lockout function on the rear help in climbing or is it the general geometry and front fork that is the culprit in your opinion?

    Also what did you use to strip the frame paint?
    I think the heft and rotational weight are the most issues I have from a climbing perspective (I don't have an issue with pedal bob necessarily).

    I used regular paint stripper. Transition is notorious for thin paint so thank them for that.

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