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    Quote Originally Posted by RuLz View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, where do you get that deal, cause I'll buy it right now. PM me if more appropriate.
    I'd also like to know how to buy the frame & Fox 34 fork combo rather than just the frame or the complete bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <sL4yEr>RuLz View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, where do you get that deal, cause I'll buy it right now. PM me if more appropriate.
    Duke at Dropnzone.com has been great. They are an authorized internet dealer for Transition so the frame /fork deal could be done thru them.
    Abandoned the 26" wheel in May '03

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico View Post
    Overall stiffness is very good, This includes the rear end. This is not a ride that is prone to rear end wallow.

    Most of the black F34 Fox forks that you are seeing in the Btwo9 pics are Floats bought thru Transition. You can get a pretty good deal on one if you buy it with a frame.
    Thanks guys. Hopefully UK Trans dealers will do similar deals. 34 forks bought separately over here are not cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by nixgame22 View Post
    Here's a few pics of my build-in-progress. I can't wait to finish this bike!
    Bandit 29 (large)
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    Lookin good! The blue on pewter is gorgeous... Nice build, you are gonna love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Ahh, gotcha, didn't realize they changed things.

    On the pedal strikes- I really like this bike but I need to demo one to see how much of an issue it is I guess. I demo'd a T29er and it had close to a 14" bb and no strikes, the Tracer is a bit more pricey tho but I really liked it.
    thats a pretty decent pro review. has JNC or Aqua had an opportunity to weigh in? thx in advance

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    Braved the border to return the test Transition Bandit and get a Bandit 29er. Stock build kit just to keep it honest except for Ardent 2.4 rear (replacing the 2.2). No Reverb Comes in at 32lbs. My own Fox 34.

    Planned switcheroos for later - Ritchey carbon weight weenie wheels. Maybe try some of the new Maxxis proto 29er rubber. Chromag seat and Raceface seatpost with some layback to get the TTT to 23" or so.

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    Riding the Bandit29er - Pemberton

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    Well? What'd you think, LeeLau?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Riding the Bandit29er - Pemberton

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    Done...Ready to Roll!


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    Oh man, that's a nice bike..
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    Here's a few more in-progress pics. Hopefully, the wheels can be built this week and I can finally ride it!

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    Nix, that build is beyond sick . I do not think I would display the same patience as you on a wheel build because staring at that while posting would be too much.

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    That pewter with the blue bits looks sick!!!
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    wow these custom builds are pretty pimp. I must say they've got a bit more bling than the OE build. But fwiw here's another vid with the bike stock

    April 15, 2012. While there's still over 3m of snow on the ski hills I've got a bike to ride! Squamish - Hoods in the Woods on the Bandit 29er

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    XL green frame, 34 Float fork & Hope headset: ordered.
    Dammit, you people have cost me a lot of money

    BTW nice build there Staz ^^

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    I know, damn you -18 months same as cash!!!!!
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    So much fun!!! First ride yesterday in the rain, great through the twisty sections, so fast through corners. Really comes into it's own on flowy, bermed downhill sections.....lots of pop, too

    Here's my build:

    Frame: Transition Bandit 29, size XL
    Fork: Fox 34 Float 29 140 RLC FIT Kashima 15QR 1.5 Taper
    Brake: Shimano XT, Ice Tec Rotors, 180mm front, 160mm rear
    Cassette: Shimano XT, 10 Speed, 11-36
    Chain: Shimano XTR
    Cranks: RaceFace Atlas FR Double Bash Chainset, 175mm, 24/36T
    Grips: ODI Yeti Hardcore Lock-On, Black/Black
    Handlebar: Chromag Fubar OSX, Chrome Series
    Headset: Chris King Inset
    Pedals: Shimano XT
    Rear derailleurs: Shimano XT SGS
    Front derailleur: Shimano XT Direct Fit
    Saddle: Chromag Lynx Saddle
    Seatpost: Blackx Jewel AM+
    Shifters: Shimano XT
    Stem: Chromag Ranger, 70mm
    Tyres: WTB Bronson Race (soon to be swapped for Schwalbe Hans Dampf Trailstar)
    Tubes: Specialized lightweight
    Wheels: SRAM Rise 40 29er, 15QR front, 142x12 rear
    Chain guide: Blackspire Stinger
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    Nickeytee, what's the weight? I've never heard of that wheelset
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    As soon as I can get hold of an accurate scale, I'll post the weight.

    Wheels seem to be very new from SRAM, not too many 142x12 off-the-peg 29er wheels out there yet! One ride = they feel reasonably stiff, track well enough....

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    tested the Bandit today, will be ordering tomorrow...another green XL for the UK please.

    Franz - did you get a deal on the 34s in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyTee View Post
    So much fun!!! First ride yesterday in the rain, great through the twisty sections, so fast through corners. Really comes into it's own on flowy, bermed downhill sections.....lots of pop, too

    Here's my build:

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    NickyTee! Nice looking build man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whippersnapper View Post
    tested the Bandit today, will be ordering tomorrow...another green XL for the UK please.

    Franz - did you get a deal on the 34s in the end?
    Good work on the green! I did get a decent deal, but I ordered it with the frame - check your PMs

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    Franz, sorry, can't pm, havent posted enough yet.

    You're a very lucky man....I went to put my order in this morning and got given very bad news regarding stock of XLs for this year. I hope you get yours....and if you're friends with the shop maybe ask for another one, please.

    I can't believe I get a test ride and the day after to be told that. The test was in herts. I had the Large which was too small.

    Anyone with an XL bored of theirs already? I know where it can get a good home.

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    Ah OK. Don't know much about PM privileges - can you read them but not send, or can you not do either?
    Give Kate at Plush Hill Cycles in Shropshire a ring. She might be able to help you out.

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    Can read PMs but can't send just yet, I have a few more posts to make before I can do that.

    Will call Kate on monday, cheers.

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    @Demodude - Weight with Bronsons was 31.8lb. Weight with Hans Dampfs = 32.6lb. I'll take the Schwalbes any day, very grippy, even on wet roots. Very close to Minion DHF ST...

    @whippersnapper - Think I had the last/only XL in the UK. Try Ant at Tamed Earth, he hooked me up.

    @Lowball - Thanks! This is my first adjustable seatpost, I wanted something without huge loops of cable flapping everywhere. Only three rides in, all wet and muddy (2x Swinley, and Cannock) but so far, so good. It's mechanical (cable) operated and has three positions - full-up, 45mm down and 125mm down. Comes in lots of purdy colours, too!

    Gotta say, this bike is sweet! Very playful, climbs pretty good, but descends like crazy

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    A few updated photos on the couch

    Just a few changes: Chromag Fubars, Salsa seatpost collar, Blackspire stinger, Specialized Purgator 2.4 up front, Specialized The Captain 2.2 rear, Running tubeless w stans sealant. Changing tires alone shaved 1/2 lb bringing the total weight to 32.04lbs. Not bad for a Large w/ the stock wheelset.
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    For those that swiched to a lighter, say 1800g wheelset, do you really notice a difference in speed/acceleration? I know logically you should but how noticeable is it. Does the bike feel less stiff or squirmy with the super light wheels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demodude View Post
    For those that swiched to a lighter, say 1800g wheelset, do you really notice a difference in speed/acceleration? I know logically you should but how noticeable is it. Does the bike feel less stiff or squirmy with the super light wheels?
    I think it's in your head...meaning you're thinking - awesome my bike is 3lbs lighter, I must be faster!

    But really...I think it makes a difference in acceleration and of course rotational mass; I guess you would put it. 1800g wheel set and light xc tires you can really tell a difference IMO. My current setup for the local XC racing track is DT swiss xr400's, 240 hubs, tubeless specialized (control) fast trak 2.0 and renegade 1.95...so a big difference between the HD's/Flow/King combo. (you can see the difference and feel the difference) Only thing is, I'm not planning on jumping over a foot high or dropping off anything substantial. Pretty much keeping the wheels on the ground and riding as hard as possible on an All-Mountain 29er...I think you could do some of those things but you would have to be way smooth, have great lines, and choose your whips wisely

    For an all day or 25~30+ mile ride I think you could feel the difference in the long run...I remember doing 25mile rides on my 33lb Nomad was strenuous, but I probably wasn't taking on proper caloric intake either for that long of a ride...just HEED and gels if I remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demodude View Post
    For those that swiched to a lighter, say 1800g wheelset, do you really notice a difference in speed/acceleration? I know logically you should but how noticeable is it. Does the bike feel less stiff or squirmy with the super light wheels?
    In my experience, the weight of tire and rim makes a big difference on 29ers... but i think you get used to what you roll pretty quick. I demo'ed a number of 29er/26er bikes with 2000g'ish wheelset before buying my bike (great deal off craigslist).

    My Rip9 has stans flows laced to XTR hubs and originally had some light XC tires setup tubeless... that wheel/tire combo accelerated as fast as heavier 26er's... really snappy.

    I switched over to some heavier AM tires setup tubeless (specialized purgatory control 2.2 in front, spec cpt. control 2.2 in rear) which added a good 300 grams to each wheel and the difference was initially very noticeable. But my legs got stronger, I maybe have become a little more active on the bike, and now I don't even notice the extra weight.

    But honestly, the heavy wheels is one thing I look at on the bandit29 build and would plan on changing out asap... get some stans flows on a good hub setup tubeless. Also, for 55 USD retail, the specialized purgatory and control tires are awesome performance and durability for the money, imo. Work great tubeless with stans flows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalvinHobbs View Post
    In my experience, the weight of tire and rim makes a big difference on 29ers... but i think you get used to what you roll pretty quick. I demo'ed a number of 29er/26er bikes with 2000g'ish wheelset before buying my bike (great deal off craigslist).

    My Rip9 has stans flows laced to XTR hubs and originally had some light XC tires setup tubeless... that wheel/tire combo accelerated as fast as heavier 26er's... really snappy.

    I switched over to some heavier AM tires setup tubeless (specialized purgatory control 2.2 in front, spec cpt. control 2.2 in rear) which added a good 300 grams to each wheel and the difference was initially very noticeable. But my legs got stronger, I maybe have become a little more active on the bike, and now I don't even notice the extra weight.

    But honestly, the heavy wheels is one thing I look at on the bandit29 build and would plan on changing out asap... get some stans flows on a good hub setup tubeless. Also, for 55 USD retail, the specialized purgatory and control tires are awesome performance and durability for the money, imo. Work great tubeless with stans flows.
    Yes - the rotating weight on a 29 makes a HUGE difference. Our wheelset isn't the lightest, but it's strong, stiff and reasonably priced. The wheel stiffness also makes a huge difference in 29... and in testing we tried some lighter wheels that would flex and fold a LOT in hard corners. If you are going to ride the bike hard you need a stiff wheelset.

    IMO - the upgrade to an Easton Haven 29 wheelset would be perfect on the Bandit 29.They are not cheap, but you get a strong/stiff wheelset AND a huge weight savings. You get what you pay for... or... light, strong(and stiff), cheap; pick 2. I would not reccomend going with a light and cheap rim/wheel without accepting more wheel flex and tacoed wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transition Bikes View Post
    Yes - the rotating weight on a 29 makes a HUGE difference. Our wheelset isn't the lightest, but it's strong, stiff and reasonably priced. The wheel stiffness also makes a huge difference in 29... and in testing we tried some lighter wheels that would flex and fold a LOT in hard corners. If you are going to ride the bike hard you need a stiff wheelset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transition Bikes View Post
    Yes - the rotating weight on a 29 makes a HUGE difference. Our wheelset isn't the lightest, but it's strong, stiff and reasonably priced. The wheel stiffness also makes a huge difference in 29... and in testing we tried some lighter wheels that would flex and fold a LOT in hard corners. If you are going to ride the bike hard you need a stiff wheelset.

    IMO - the upgrade to an Easton Haven 29 wheelset would be perfect on the Bandit 29.They are not cheap, but you get a strong/stiff wheelset AND a huge weight savings. You get what you pay for... or... light, strong(and stiff), cheap; pick 2. I would not reccomend going with a light and cheap rim/wheel without accepting more wheel flex and tacoed wheels.
    Yeah... I didn't intend to take anything away from the Transition 28's. I see lot of folks rolling them on non-transition bikes... that speaks volumes.

    I dunno how stiff my wheelset really is (stans flows/xtr hubs/32h 14g spokes) compared to stock havens or the transition 28's.... but I have nothing personally to complain about wrt wheel stiffness or toughness.

    So, Transition Bikes, what is your take on the stans flow rims? Maybe it is just me misreading between the lines; but I got the notion that you don't approve of the stans flows so much (or maybe the xtr hubs)? Any 29er rim recommendations?

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    Man, those are sick shots! When do we get a write up ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by <sL4yEr>RuLz View Post
    Man, those are sick shots! When do we get a write up ?
    Coming! I'll do a first looks then a long term. Give me a couple of weeks. I need to get a few more shots and then jump it off some stuff too. Sorry its such a nice bike and so much fun that i hate to rush it and want to do a good job
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    That's great to hear! No worries, though. Building mine up this weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Coming! I'll do a first looks then a long term. Give me a couple of weeks. I need to get a few more shots and then jump it off some stuff too. Sorry its such a nice bike and so much fun that i hate to rush it and want to do a good job
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    I guess I should have premised my question withe the type of riding I do, which is not like black rock but steep, can be very rocky at times and I like to catch air and do smallish drops. I never race unless its a dh. I'm not a guy thats making tons of money right now and I'm trying to justify buying lighter but strong wheels once I have the bike paid off ( hopefully in 3 months). I already getto-tubelessed my wheelset and changed tires which saved almost 3/4 lb. I will stick with stock for now, thanks for the replies!
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    You can't go wrong with the Flows. First off, they're a dedicated tubeless. Secondly (and more importantly), they're wide which'll help with tire role.

    A lot of your wheel flex will come from your spoke gauge selection. I"ve seen some nice I9 hubs laced up to some Havocs and they didn't last too long. Double-butted all the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by CalvinHobbs View Post
    Yeah... I didn't intend to take anything away from the Transition 28's. I see lot of folks rolling them on non-transition bikes... that speaks volumes.

    I dunno how stiff my wheelset really is (stans flows/xtr hubs/32h 14g spokes) compared to stock havens or the transition 28's.... but I have nothing personally to complain about wrt wheel stiffness or toughness.

    So, Transition Bikes, what is your take on the stans flow rims? Maybe it is just me misreading between the lines; but I got the notion that you don't approve of the stans flows so much (or maybe the xtr hubs)? Any 29er rim recommendations?
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    Front Derailleur size questions

    I"m running 2x10, 24/38, but can't figure out which SRAM front derailleur I need. I know its a direct-mount bottom pull, but there are 2 sizes: S1 for 42.7mm (2-bolt), S3 for 22.1mm (2-bolt).
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    Quote Originally Posted by <sL4yEr>RuLz View Post
    I"m running 2x10, 24/38, but can't figure out which SRAM front derailleur I need. I know its a direct-mount bottom pull, but there are 2 sizes: S1 for 42.7mm (2-bolt), S3 for 22.1mm (2-bolt).
    Go to the link below. Count the number of bolt holes in the front derailleur mount on your frame. Make selection in "Front Derailleur Clamp" box based on number of bolt holes counted. Select "Direct Mount" in the "Front Derailleur Style" box. Make correct chainring tooth count selection for your bike in the "Front Derailleur Compatibility" box. At that point "Speedgoat Item: 170140" should be displayed right below the price.

    Yes, buying a front derailleur is not as easy as it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalvinHobbs View Post
    So, Transition Bikes, what is your take on the stans flow rims? Maybe it is just me misreading between the lines; but I got the notion that you don't approve of the stans flows so much (or maybe the xtr hubs)? Any 29er rim recommendations?
    I guess reading between the lines? Comment was meant to be general. Not making any judgement on Stans... never ridden them myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <sL4yEr>RuLz View Post
    I"m running 2x10, 24/38, but can't figure out which SRAM front derailleur I need. I know its a direct-mount bottom pull, but there are 2 sizes: S1 for 42.7mm (2-bolt), S3 for 22.1mm (2-bolt).
    Neither! Those are two sizes for a "low direct mount" but you need a "high direct mount" for the Bandit 29, aka "HDM". There is only one "HDM" mounting standard.

    I believe there are still two cage shapes though... one for 39 or 42 outer rings or (the one you need) for a 36 or 38 outer ring. TheX7 derailleur we spec is dual pull, and I think they all are.

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    I think I found what I need

    I went with a SRAM XO H0 (DM), Top/Bottom Pull, 26/39t, 28/42t (2x10). I'd prefer to run 1x10, but I don't think my XO (2x10 with carbon bash) cranks will allow it.
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    Some more videos.

    Trying to keep them short and to the point

    Fromme Lower trails

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/40989752?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>


    Upper Dales

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    Quote Originally Posted by <sL4yEr>RuLz View Post
    I went with a SRAM XO H0 (DM), Top/Bottom Pull, 26/39t, 28/42t (2x10). I'd prefer to run 1x10, but I don't think my XO (2x10 with carbon bash) cranks will allow it.
    Looky what I found here. Couldn't hold out for the Pryme, eh?

    The Bandit's are sick dude. I think you're gonna love it.

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    Nice vids!

    Do I spy a Covert in the background at the end of he second vid?

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    No Prime Time for me. Besides, I love swapping "bikes" with FM since I usually know where he's been. .

    FYI, Duke's the MAN! Thanks again, Dropnzone.

    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Looky what I found here. Couldn't hold out for the Pryme, eh?

    The Bandit's are sick dude. I think you're gonna love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    Nice vids!

    Do I spy a Covert in the background at the end of he second vid?
    Good eye. It's the filmers
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    Good stuff Lee! Looking forward to the review! I know how I feel about the bike but I am eager to hear what a professional thinks

    Heading up there this summer on a MTB road trip and can't wait to discover the shore and other BC zones!

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