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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    This will be a sick build!! What roller/guide is that? No chainstay protection?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowball View Post
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    That doesn't look too bad. But what you should really be using is this stuff called Mastic Tape. Its black and stretches similar to electrical tape but it has a thickness of about 2mm. Its easy to apply and can stretch/adhere to any curves or bends on your chainstays or seatstays. We use it at the shop i work at.

    You can find it at Home Depot next to the electrical tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJDan View Post
    That doesn't look too bad. But what you should really be using is this stuff called Mastic Tape. Its black and stretches similar to electrical tape but it has a thickness of about 2mm. Its easy to apply and can stretch/adhere to any curves or bends on your chainstays or seatstays. We use it at the shop i work at.

    You can find it at Home Depot next to the electrical tape.
    That sounds like a good solution...but this application, specifically is "hockey stick tape" combo-ed with "shin tape" (also a hockey product) and was also recommend by the LBS +1 other (and comes in an array of colors if you so desire)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJDan View Post
    That doesn't look too bad. But what you should really be using is this stuff called Mastic Tape. Its black and stretches similar to electrical tape but it has a thickness of about 2mm. Its easy to apply and can stretch/adhere to any curves or bends on your chainstays or seatstays. We use it at the shop i work at.

    You can find it at Home Depot next to the electrical tape.
    That stuff is great. 3M 2228.

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    Hockey tape works great for a little while but doesn't last well. It'll turn into a greasy mess of glue and fiber over time. But it's cheap enough you can switch it out every other month and avoid this!

    My wheelset should be done in a couple days. Add me to the list of people waiting on wheelsets!

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    Most of the intended upgrades are complete.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    Most of the intended upgrades are complete.

    Looking great, what is the weight?
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    So I ride in SoCal, anyone else find that the stock ardent breaks away unpredictably in corners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demodude View Post
    So I ride in SoCal, anyone else find that the stock ardent breaks away unpredictably in corners?
    I live in Norcal and we have lots of loose over hardpack similar to what you ride down south. If you are talking about the stock rear Ardent 2.25, i have no love for it. Much prefer a Panaracer XC CG or Rampage in the rear.

    Love the Ardent 2.4 up front on a 35-38mm wide rim. Great setup. Very fun and confidence inspiring. Some claim that the 2.4 can be scary when transitioning onto the side knobs. Not an issue with the wide rims as the side knobs engage the dirt sooner as you lean over. But then, I'm kind of a "toss and stick it" rider when it comes to cornering at speed so I might like it just fine on a skinnier rim, YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demodude View Post
    Looking great, what is the weight?
    Haven't put it on a proper scale yet, but the bathroom scale method gives 31.4 lbs. I would think it's a bit lighter if the stock build is indeed 30.5, as the wheelset with tubeless setup should drop about 1.5 lbs, which more than offsets the Reverb weight. I am betting the stock build weight is without pedals though.

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    Yes, the 2.4 front is fine but the 2.2 rear is the one that gets overwhelmed, I'd like a tire with better transitioning knobs and side knob bite as I like to rail and have a mor consistant feel
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    I have the same experience with the Ardents in colorado. I ride mostly rocky and loose over hardpack trails and the Ardents just don't corner to my liking. They are kind of squirmy when they roll on to the soft cornering knobs. And yes I find them to be pretty unpredictable on the drifts.

    I much prefer tires with an aggressive side knob for really leaning the bike in corners. Im going to try out the Specialized Eskar2 up front and see how that goes. Will do a captain in the rear as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJDan View Post
    I have the same experience with the Ardents in colorado. I ride mostly rocky and loose over hardpack trails and the Ardents just don't corner to my liking. They are kind of squirmy when they roll on to the soft cornering knobs. And yes I find them to be pretty unpredictable on the drifts.

    I much prefer tires with an aggressive side knob for really leaning the bike in corners. Im going to try out the Specialized Eskar2 up front and see how that goes. Will do a captain in the rear as well.
    LostBoyScout had the right upgrade... they are pricey, but the Schwalbe tires are much nicer than the stock Ardents. Both the Nobby Nic and the Hans Dampf. I liked the Nobby Nic better, but I am running a Hans Dampf up front for winter time wet roots and the softer compound.

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    I still haven't bought tires yet...but i think i'm going to go with the specialized purgatory control tire. Tubeless ready, 2.2, good knobs. They just seem like specialized did a good job. I was going to go dans dampf but i hate how schwalbe's are so huge!!! They look and feel like a 2.4. I'd rather have a little better of a trail tire

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    Have any of Yinz using the FOX 34 on your build....spent any time......on a Zocchi 44 Ti 140?
    Just wanting to know because I have a Zocchi for my build.....Have found this fork to be one of the best 29er forks I've owned and priced........Been riding 29ers since 2007.... Never tried a FOX 29er fork due to thier price.......But I did appreciate the Fox Vanilla back in the 26" wheel dayz...... Thanx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transition Bikes View Post
    LostBoyScout had the right upgrade... they are pricey, but the Schwalbe tires are much nicer than the stock Ardents. Both the Nobby Nic and the Hans Dampf. I liked the Nobby Nic better, but I am running a Hans Dampf up front for winter time wet roots and the softer compound.
    I think if I was up in the northwest like you guys, I may enjoy the Ardents more. They seem like they would favor a softer loamy soil like you guys have.

    I was about to pull the trigger on some schwalbes. I have had good experience with the nobby nic before and the hans dampf also looks promising. Specialized tires are just so affordable I figured I'd try them first. From what I've heard, the Eskar sounds like a good match for my riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transition Bikes View Post
    LostBoyScout had the right upgrade... they are pricey, but the Schwalbe tires are much nicer than the stock Ardents. Both the Nobby Nic and the Hans Dampf. I liked the Nobby Nic better, but I am running a Hans Dampf up front for winter time wet roots and the softer compound.
    Think you'll be switching back to the NN up front for the summer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by staz View Post
    Have any of Yinz using the FOX 34 on your build....spent any time......on a Zocchi 44 Ti 140?
    Just wanting to know because I have a Zocchi for my build.....Have found this fork to be one of the best 29er forks I've owned and priced........Been riding 29ers since 2007.... Never tried a FOX 29er fork due to thier price.......But I did appreciate the Fox Vanilla back in the 26" wheel dayz...... Thanx.
    Not saying the the 'zoke is not a good fork. However the Bandit Two9 was designed around the geo of the Fox 34 fork with it's 51mm of offset. IIRC your 'zoke has a fair amount less offset and this will result in more trail than the bike was designed for. So barge like steering is a possibility. Perhaps the Transition guys could weigh in on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrackerasscracker View Post
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    this post with your frame on the couch looks like a cat on the couch. Very nice in green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrackerasscracker View Post
    Great first ride one word Awesome !
    Nice pics dude! Your shreading it man.

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    Chainstay protection.[/QUOTE]

    what is that griptape? nice idea if dont have a chain stay protector. I have also heard people can use a rode tube at a chain stay protector that works well.

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    I posted my pics and review here of my bandit 29er if it helps one person, I'll be happy Transition Bandit 29 Review | Rising Cyclist
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwracer View Post
    Chainstay protection.
    what is that griptape? nice idea if dont have a chain stay protector. I have also heard people can use a rode tube at a chain stay protector that works well.[/QUOTE]

    "this application, specifically is "hockey stick tape" combo-ed with "shin tape" (also a hockey product). The shin tape is clear and installed under the black for additional protection...but you can also install it over the colored stick tape if you want.

    works great according to friends, and comes in different colors was well if you want it. Of course since its a cloth product you may end up replacing it from time to time if it starts looking shabby...but both rolls of tape cost me about 6 bucks from the local hockey supply store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwracer View Post
    I posted my pics and review here of my bandit 29er if it helps one person, I'll be happy Transition Bandit 29 Review | IceLogic Biking
    Good write up man! Can't believe you're rockin' 25.9" wide bars I understand why...if you ride in tight trees sections...but for me i need 711 or wider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ro.nin View Post
    Think you'll be switching back to the NN up front for the summer?
    Maybe? Depends on what I can get my hands on and how worn out my tire stash is.

    I generally like running the same tire F&R because the rears wear out faster and I just get one new one for the front and move the partially worn front to the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico View Post
    Not saying the the 'zoke is not a good fork. However the Bandit Two9 was designed around the geo of the Fox 34 fork with it's 51mm of offset. IIRC your 'zoke has a fair amount less offset and this will result in more trail than the bike was designed for. So barge like steering is a possibility. Perhaps the Transition guys could weigh in on this.
    Correct on the fork offset part, can't speak to any performance aspects of the Marzocchi, however the Float 34 140 fork has been amazing for us. Can't speak highly enough about it.

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    Break In Ride

    First ride on my new Bandit and boy did she deliver! I have been on 29ers since 2003 and this bike is a game changer. Smoother and faster in the rough than a 7" 26, neutral in the air, balanced in the slow technical, and a powerhouse in the techy ups. There is nothing that this bike doesn't do well. I can't wait for the fork and shock to break in and to really get a feel for what she can do!

    Next upgrades- dropper post, MRP 2x guide, Deity bars and pedals, Chromag 40mm stem, comfy saddle.

    Sooo stoked on this ride!! Thank you Transition for delivering. You guys nailed it with this one. BRAAPP!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by karatemonkey View Post
    First ride on my new Bandit and boy did she deliver! I have been on 29ers since 2003 and this bike is a game changer. Smoother and faster in the rough than a 7" 26, neutral in the air, balanced in the slow technical, and a powerhouse in the techy ups. There is nothing that this bike doesn't do well. I can't wait for the fork and shock to break in and to really get a feel for what she can do!

    Next upgrades- dropper post, MRP 2x guide, Deity bars and pedals, Chromag 40mm stem, comfy saddle.

    Sooo stoked on this ride!! Thank you Transition for delivering. You guys nailed it with this one. BRAAPP!!




    Nice VIdeo dude, your getting your moneys worth out of that RP23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowball View Post
    Good write up man! Can't believe you're rockin' 25.9" wide bars I understand why...if you ride in tight trees sections...but for me i need 711 or wider
    Yea XL frame and 25.9 inch wide bars at the most and I am loving it Thanks I am glad you liked the write up, I couldnt stop writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowball View Post
    what is that griptape? nice idea if dont have a chain stay protector. I have also heard people can use a rode tube at a chain stay protector that works well.
    "this application, specifically is "hockey stick tape" combo-ed with "shin tape" (also a hockey product). The shin tape is clear and installed under the black for additional protection...but you can also install it over the colored stick tape if you want.

    works great according to friends, and comes in different colors was well if you want it. Of course since its a cloth product you may end up replacing it from time to time if it starts looking shabby...but both rolls of tape cost me about 6 bucks from the local hockey supply store.[/QUOTE]

    Its a cool idea because you can cover the entire chain stay and it wont slide around.

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    @karatemonkey - NICE!!!!! Break-in Video!

    Looking forward to some of that myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwracer View Post
    Yea XL frame and 25.9 inch wide bars at the most and I am loving it Thanks I am glad you liked the write up, I couldnt stop writing.
    wow! on the XL too! glad it works for you, and glad to know it works!
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    Well...I'm resorting to crappy garage door photos...sorry about the quality and shadows. Hope to come up with something better later...but this is the finished product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowball View Post

    Well...I'm resorting to crappy garage door photos...sorry about the quality and shadows. Hope to come up with something better later...but this is the finished product.
    Very nice my friend what kind of pedals and cranks are those? i see your rocking the xtr and chris king you must be a serious rider.

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    Looks nice!!!!
    Still waiting on my ordered frame from the LBS to show up, been 3 weeks already....and decided to go with a Float 34...which is on backorder for 2-3 weeks. The wait is a killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwracer View Post
    Very nice my friend what kind of pedals and cranks are those? i see your rocking the xtr and chris king you must be a serious rider.
    Rotor 3D's and HT ME-01T.

    I am pretty serious. I love mt biking and biking is my main form of excerise. Had a Nomad for the past 6yrs, but had to sell to offset some of the cost of this Two9 prj. So this will be my main bike! So tried to get everything I wanted for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowball View Post
    Rotor 3D's and HT ME-01T.

    I am pretty serious. I love mt biking and biking is my main form of excerise. Had a Nomad for the past 6yrs, but had to sell to offset some of the cost of this Two9 prj. So this will be my main bike! So tried to get everything I wanted for the most part.
    wow those are the nicest pedals i have ever seen. I just looked at their site. Ive been riding for a while i wonder why know one i have seen has them. Ti spindle and mag body wow dude serious weight savings.

    It would have been nice if they used a needle bearing like the crank bro 50/50 pedals, but over all the HT ME-01T are probably the best flat and light pedals on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwracer View Post
    wow those are the nicest pedals i have ever seen. I just looked at their site. Ive been riding for a while i wonder why know one i have seen has them. Ti spindle and mag body wow dude serious weight savings.
    That makes two of us. I guess they make pedals for a bunch of companies and just rebrand them. My 50/50xx were 559g and these are like 236g +\-
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    yea dude I agree they are low and pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowball View Post
    Rotor 3D's and HT ME-01T.

    I am pretty serious. I love mt biking and biking is my main form of excerise. Had a Nomad for the past 6yrs, but had to sell to offset some of the cost of this Two9 prj. So this will be my main bike! So tried to get everything I wanted for the most part.
    Very nice build Lowball! Bike is really sweet isn't it? Happy Trails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swaneedawg View Post
    Very nice build Lowball! Bike is really sweet isn't it? Happy Trails!
    Thanks! Yeah it's awesome! I was trying so hard not to put it in the air 1st ride out last Sunday...need a few more miles on the wheels before going airborne. But it was just awesome on the DH and tech stuff...no learning curve from coming from the Nomad on my local track.
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    Quick review...i still couldn't quite pedal my whole xc trail by my house, but that's mostly me. for being pre-season, i did so much more than i usually could. I loved the single ring even though it's probably not ideal for the bike. I'd suggest 2 rings and a duel ring guide. It slays though! Pedaled amazing, then descended awesome. I love the 142 rear end!!! such a difference. The only thing i kinda wish were it a touch more slack...but that's just me. It's not a dh bike...i loved it though. It's def going to be my most used bike this summer. I'm going to probably pull off the remote rp2. it just barely does anything. I know this bike is similar to other am bikes...but go with transition. you're just cooler...and i love how they pushed the geo on this bike just a little more than other 29ers. Just stunning...

    here are some of the specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpearson View Post
    about as bad of a pic as it comes. I'll get better ones in the morning...but here are some of the specs

    I only pedaled it outside for a sec...i'll post more of a review with more pics tomorrow
    Looks good! Good choice of parts. You will be blown away by the on the trail riding ability of this bike!

    P.S. and you can ride wheelies for days!
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    Thanks! Yeah i'm stoked. My first love is DH and that's why you'll see i'm running 31in bars, chainguide w/ 10 speed, flats..etc but I just adored the covert i owned the last 2 seasons but there was just a part of me that wanted more of a long riding enduro bike. There's just so many trails in utah that are hard to get to w/o pedaling for a while. I just decided to go big with the 29er version. All the transition guys have assured me it'll shred trails well...so yeah i can't wait to ride it tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpearson View Post
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    Float 34 140mm fork, rp2 w/ lever rear shock
    Descendent crankset, Straitline guide, 32t
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    I only pedaled it outside for a sec...i'll post more of a review with more pics tomorrow
    What spokes do you use?

    And about the final bike weight? Numbers?

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    New tires report

    As per my comments regarding the Ardent tires they have been replaced by a 2.4 purgatory and a 2.2 captain by Specialized. I can report that the cornering performance has been greatly improved. Gone is the siktterish rear end and the tires just hold a line very well and break away with lots of scrubbing notice. Also changing to this tire combo shaved a half a pound of rotating weight which takes the sting out of paying $110 for new tires. Another 100 gram was lost by switching to Stan's tubeless strips. Total bike weight is now just under 32 lbs. for a Large. (including command post and blackspire stinger)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpearson View Post

    Quick review...i still couldn't quite pedal my whole xc trail by my house, but that's mostly me. for being pre-season, i did so much more than i usually could. I loved the single ring even though it's probably not ideal for the bike. I'd suggest 2 rings and a duel ring guide. It slays though! Pedaled amazing, then descended awesome. I love the 142 rear end!!! such a difference. The only thing i kinda wish were it a touch more slack...but that's just me. It's not a dh bike...i loved it though. It's def going to be my most used bike this summer. I'm going to probably pull off the remote rp2. it just barely does anything. I know this bike is similar to other am bikes...but go with transition. you're just cooler...and i love how they pushed the geo on this bike just a little more than other 29ers. Just stunning...

    here are some of the specs
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    Float 34 140mm fork, rp2 w/ lever rear shock
    Descendent crankset, Straitline guide, 32t
    Sram X.9 10 speed, 11-32 cassette
    Reverb Post
    Deity Pedals, Stem, and Black Label Bars
    X.0 Brakes
    Looks great! What's the weight?
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    Well...I'm resorting to crappy garage door photos...sorry about the quality and shadows. Hope to come up with something better later...but this is the finished product.
    Spokes diameter, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ro.nin View Post
    Looks great! What's the weight?
    I'm actually not really sure the weight. I don't work at a shop anymore and don't have a scale and i don't trust doing the holding the bike thing. It feels early 30ish. That's what i was thinking it'd be around. I love this bike though. It really pedals well. If you have the means, i highly recommend picking one up.

    The guy above...I used wheelsmith double butted spokes. here's the pic of it in the mountains! if someones going to say i tried riding before the trail was ready...yes i did...but yes i kinda got lost and had no idea how to get out. So i didn't intentionally hurt the trail

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpearson View Post
    If you have the means, i highly recommend picking one up.
    I've had my frame for over one month now... just waiting for my wheels and a couple last bits... super excited!
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    wizzler is a must. although then it consumes all your waking and sleeping thoughts until you can return.

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