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    sbd: Ya I live in Santa Rosa. I was pleasantly surprised by the weight. Size small. The build is XO1 shifter, RR der and cassette. XX1 cranks, Roval control carbon wheels, KS Lev integra post, XO Trail brakes, Pike 130, WTB saddle, SWorks bar. Lighter tires could bring it down to 27lbs but can't give up my Vigilante's!!! I just can't get over how good this bike really is!

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    I live in Ukiah. Really want one of these for my next bike but can't find anywhere to see/try one. They look perfect for my trails.

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    What size?

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    I'm a large

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    Quote Originally Posted by MediumDiesel View Post
    I need some advice from the Smuggler riders out there. I am having a frame warrantied and I'm thinking of selling it to fund a smuggler. The question I have is, should I call around and find a blue medium smuggler and run it, or get my name on the the orange one coming out with a little more tire clearance and possibly different BB height? I have to wait until October for the orange one, which sucks.

    Any of you having problems with rock strikes? I'm running a 2.3 maxxis ardent in the rear, would there be enough clearance in the 2015 frame?

    I have all the parts and a 140mm pike right now with some stans flow wheels with an ardent on the back and a minion 2.3 on the front. I ride North bay area stuff a lot like Annadel, china camp, tamarancho with occasional downieville trips thrown in. Just planning on swapping parts over from my other bike.
    how do you know what changes if any are in store for the smuggler for the next model year?

    by the by, the bb height is a complete non issue. look at any modern performance trail bike. learn to pedal and ratchet pedal over tech sections, no problem. sure you hit the pedals occasionally, so what. the bike is also slack and a bit floppy on steep climbs if you're lazy. should they make the head angle steeper more like an xc race bike? jesus people, what do you want? high speed stability requires some compromises. the rear tire clearance is a minor annoyance. the tires i want to run fit fine as is. i don't want to run magic marys or vigilantes in the back on this bike. purgs, butchers, ikon 2.35s no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cunningstunts View Post
    how do you know what changes if any are in store for the smuggler for the next model year?
    http://www.plushhillcycles.co.uk/bra...ansition-bikes

    (Posted in the "Transition 2016" thread)

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    Ikon 2.35s fit? That's a pretty big tire, almost the size of a 2.4 Ardent. If I ever get a line on a smuggler I won't worry about running a larger tire.

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    Those 2016 pics look GOOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post
    Ikon 2.35s fit? That's a pretty big tire, almost the size of a 2.4 Ardent. If I ever get a line on a smuggler I won't worry about running a larger tire.
    I had 2.35" Ikon on an AC All Mountain wheel in the back and it was rideable. Then I switched to another (wider) rear wheel which was slightly out of true vertically, maybe 1-2mm. On that the Ikon was rubbing the seat stay bridge.

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    I only know what the drop n zone guy told me about the 16. I've pretty much made up my mind on the blue smuggler. The orange looks sweet, but I don't want to be without a bike for 2 months.

    I don't see myself going any bigger than a 2.3, but when it gets sloppy it would be nice to have a little less mud packing in between the stays. The low bottom bracket would be fun after speaking to Guvna about our local trails.

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    having some fun on my smuggler! @monte Tremalzo - Lake Garda - Italie

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    smuggler should be coming in to my LBS in the next day or two....must remain calm...

    I picked it up last night, feels great riding it around a little in the yard & street. Going to get a real ride on some local trails later today, I can't wait to try it out.

    It's a huge difference from my previous ride, should be interesting.

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    took it out for the first ride yesterday and I was not disappointed!

    there were many firsts for me involved here, first 29'er, dropper, sram drivetrain and they all worked excellent!

    taking it out again this am!!
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    I have put 40 miles on the smuggler in 2 days, it's fantastic. I couldn't be happier with it.

    It climbs great and descends even better. I hit a nice long, straight, rooty downhill yesterday and it was the best part of the day, let the brakes go and flew down it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggusjimmus View Post
    Has anyone tried a 2.4 Trail Boss in the back?

    edit: read at stw that you can fit one in
    I have a 2.25 Trail boss on a KOM 23 rim and its soooooo close. No way a 2.4 would fit :-( I have a 2.4 on the front and the width is almost the same but the height is quite a bit taller.
    Enjoy every ride!

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    Has anyone tried a coil-over on the Smug yet? I'm contemplating but would dig some input if anyone has any. I welcome speculation. The debonair has been a solid trail shock. I've been using this bike for heavily rock infested long downhills lately and am just wondering about other options.

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    No but I do have a M M tune Debonair fitted now as the warranty replacement of the factory shock with the L L tune would be in the order of months waiting here in the UK. I've had a couple of rides and a bit undecided if it is a good idea so far.

    2.4 trail boss does fit according to a post on previous page ^

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    Frame up build. Not finished, new cockpit as a 60mm stem is long. Waiting on sram guides hence the taped elixers to the down tube. Reynolds wheelset is noice.

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    Soon to be part of the Transition Smuggler Crew. My last FS bike was a 2008 Specialized FSR 26'er, so its been a while. I've been a hardtail, single-speeder since, should be interesting. I have a Canfield Nimble 9 with very similar geometry, I hope the Smuggler performs the same.
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    it won't. it has full suspension and will be much much better, especially when it get's steep, fast and rowdy. i promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunningstunts View Post
    it won't. it has full suspension and will be much much better, especially when it get's steep, fast and rowdy. i promise.
    Like the sound of that!!! Pics soon to come.
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    Anyone changed from Bandit 29 v1 to Smuggler? What differences am I going to expect? I really like my Bandit but its time to get a new bike. My friend has a Scout and I really like how his Giddy-up performs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laihmi View Post
    Anyone changed from Bandit 29 v1 to Smuggler? What differences am I going to expect? I really like my Bandit but its time to get a new bike. My friend has a Scout and I really like how his Giddy-up performs.
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    same boat here...

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    I have. We had a V1 Bandit 29 (130/140) as a demo bike that I spent a LOT of time riding, in fact it was the bike that turned me on to 29ers.

    After that I bought myself a V2 (120/120) and rode it for a year before getting a Banshee Phantom and eventually a Smuggler.

    In short, the Smuggler takes everything that was good about the Bandits and adds a much better pedalling platform and some downhill stability without losing the playful nature. I am pretty sure it would be my only bike if they made a 5.5lb carbon frame, but they don't so I have a light hardtail as well.

    Get a Smuggler, you won't regret it.

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    Phantom vs smuggler?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedalsbikecare View Post
    I have. We had a V1 Bandit 29 (130/140) as a demo bike that I spent a LOT of time riding, in fact it was the bike that turned me on to 29ers.

    After that I bought myself a V2 (120/120) and rode it for a year before getting a Banshee Phantom and eventually a Smuggler.

    In short, the Smuggler takes everything that was good about the Bandits and adds a much better pedalling platform and some downhill stability without losing the playful nature. I am pretty sure it would be my only bike if they made a 5.5lb carbon frame, but they don't so I have a light hardtail as well.

    Get a Smuggler, you won't regret it.
    I take it you like the smuggler more than the phantom? I've been considering the phantom and smuggler for a few months, definitely leaning towards the '16 smuggler 3. Thoughts?

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    They are both very close to be fair, very similar bikes that ride as such. Nothing about the Phantom made me want to change I had just spent a lot of time on it and fancied something new. Pick whichever you like the look of most and you will be happy with it. The Smuggler takes a bottle cage, the Phantom comes with the best trail shock ever produced in the CC Inline.

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    I have put ~ 120 miles on the smuggler now and I love it more each ride, I continue to get confidence with the cornering and how it just sticks to the ground. When I drop the post down and get low it literally feels like I am glued to the ground!
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    the bike's stability is uncanny eh? i've been down crazy steep pitches on mine and you can crawl down if the traction is available or bomb if you have the stones. bike is incredible. i see a fox 36 talas 130/150 in the future for this bike, and my other bike going up for sale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunningstunts View Post
    the bike's stability is uncanny eh? i've been down crazy steep pitches on mine and you can crawl down if the traction is available or bomb if you have the stones. bike is incredible. i see a fox 36 talas 130/150 in the future for this bike, and my other bike going up for sale...
    totally agree 100%!!
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    Getting Closer !!!

    Smuggler-transition-frame.jpg

    Frame and build kit arrived, awaiting for it to be built and completed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
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    Frame and build kit arrived, awaiting for it to be built and completed!
    nice!! can't wait to see the completed build pics!!

    I pulled the trigger on a set of 30mm ID LB wheels to try out on mine!
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    I'm gonna ride it stock until after Christmas, then she will be going on a diet. Super stoked!
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    Today is the day

    No sooner did I arrive at my LBS to pick her up did the skies open up and it started pouring, so today is the day I take her out for the first ride. Super Stoked.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    No sooner did I arrive at my LBS to pick her up did the skies open up and it started pouring, so today is the day I take her out for the first ride. Super Stoked.....

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    looks awesome!! I love the color!

    let us know what you thought about the ride!!

    I put some crank boots and an MRP bash guard on

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o05_s00

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    OK I have about 25 miles on the bike thus far. Ride 1: a local trail I ride 2-3 times a week right by my work 11.6 miles of flat, flowy fast singletrack with a few stunts built into it. so for perspective, I gave up FS bikes in 2008 for 29'er hardtails, then SS 29er hardtails so I am re-learning how to ride this bike right, mostly that I can sit down to climb!!! And that the bike does really well!!! The bike handles and corners just like my Nimble 9 but better with the rear wheel tracking through bumpy corners. The bike is heavy compared to my hardtail, so I am getting used to that. So basically its a total revolution, but I like it. So I took it back to my shop and played with the set up, added air to the shock, and took it back out for a tougher ride with more climbs and downhills. The bike flat our rips downhill!!! Uphill is just different than SS hardtail, so my legs are basically getting worked in a different way and soon I will be better at grinding instead of hammering. Also the dropper post is worth every penny!!! Again I have been riding a cave man bike for so long that all these switches are confusing! My only upgrade in sight will be lighter wheel set soon, probably I-9s with lighter tires!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    OK I have about 25 miles on the bike thus far. Ride 1: a local trail I ride 2-3 times a week right by my work 11.6 miles of flat, flowy fast singletrack with a few stunts built into it. so for perspective, I gave up FS bikes in 2008 for 29'er hardtails, then SS 29er hardtails so I am re-learning how to ride this bike right, mostly that I can sit down to climb!!! And that the bike does really well!!! The bike handles and corners just like my Nimble 9 but better with the rear wheel tracking through bumpy corners. The bike is heavy compared to my hardtail, so I am getting used to that. So basically its a total revolution, but I like it. So I took it back to my shop and played with the set up, added air to the shock, and took it back out for a tougher ride with more climbs and downhills. The bike flat our rips downhill!!! Uphill is just different than SS hardtail, so my legs are basically getting worked in a different way and soon I will be better at grinding instead of hammering. Also the dropper post is worth every penny!!! Again I have been riding a cave man bike for so long that all these switches are confusing! My only upgrade in sight will be lighter wheel set soon, probably I-9s with lighter tires!!!
    awesome! it does indeed like to be pointed downhill, that's for sure! I also found it responds really well to pump and if you get in a section of whoops and start pumping it good it really takes off!

    I find it climbs really well too and I leave the rear shock open at all times.
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    alex ' krunkshox' mcguinness just won the two day naet series final at mt hood oregon against the likes of curtis keene, mitch ropelato, cody kelly, and kyle warner on his smuggler!!

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    UM OK so yesterday I took the Smuggler to Lake Norman State Park in Troutman NC for a ride, and I only had an hour before dark. The trail I chose was Laurel Loop one of my favorites, a fast, flowy trail with a few small climbs, a few small downhills, nothing really technical, a few jumps, and lots of pumps. I beat my PR my 6 minutes! At first, I was riding the bike kinda timidly, but about halfway through I geared up and mashed like a single speeder and I was really ripping. OMG this bike is fun and holds speed very very well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    UM OK so yesterday I took the Smuggler to Lake Norman State Park in Troutman NC for a ride, and I only had an hour before dark. The trail I chose was Laurel Loop one of my favorites, a fast, flowy trail with a few small climbs, a few small downhills, nothing really technical, a few jumps, and lots of pumps. I beat my PR my 6 minutes! At first, I was riding the bike kinda timidly, but about halfway through I geared up and mashed like a single speeder and I was really ripping. OMG this bike is fun and holds speed very very well!
    there you go!! nice!! glad to hear it!
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    I pre ordered a Smuggler with Pikes. Can't wait to ride it!!
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    Thinking of moving my honzo parts over to an xl smuggler. But I've got a 140mm pike. Deal breaker? I can't see taking the time to lower it 10mm to be worth it.

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    many of us ride 140 forks on the Smug. depends on your terrain and preferences. it's only 10mm try it as is and go from there.

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    Is everyone riding with 170 cranks? I know that stock build is that. I have a spare one brand new Sram X1 but they are 175 . Feels stupid to order another one...

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    Hey mate,
    I run mine with 175 cranks. You learn pretty fast to to ride without hitting the pedal on rocks etc. is it worth buying a whole new set no, would I want to run 170 cranks yes

    I also ran 140mm fork pike on mine I dropped it down to 130 and it I think rides better now.

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    175 here.

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    also have 175mm cranks and you learn quickly on when not to peddle and also bring back the ratchet pedaling haha!
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    I'm considering a Smuggler, but they are slim pickens in my area with one dealer within a 35 mile area and none in stock. It looks like in will be at least two months until I can get a chance to ride one and I'm trying to size myself. I'm 6' 35" inseam and with long legs I find Minimal cock pit room on some large bikes. What are some of you guys riding with similar height and legs?

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    Hi
    Anyone riding it for long rides?
    How capable is it when you doing arround 80km 2000meters rides?
    Mostly I do 40/50km rides with 1000meters, but once a month (average) I go for longer rides.
    I need a bike that must be a do it all, I like to have fun with the bike and grab a descend, BUT I am NOT into enduro stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avalonpt View Post
    Hi
    Anyone riding it for long rides?
    How capable is it when you doing arround 80km 2000meters rides?
    Mostly I do 40/50km rides with 1000meters, but once a month (average) I go for longer rides.
    I need a bike that must be a do it all, I like to have fun with the bike and grab a descend, BUT I am NOT into enduro stuff.
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    The smuggler is a great do it all bike for sure. Great at climbing and even better at descending. Definitely comfortable on longer rides. I did the two rides below on consecutive days and it was great!

    https://www.strava.com/activities/375821213

    https://www.strava.com/activities/375821344
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