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    Scout Build Thread

    Just got mine built last night and got a quick lunch ride on it today. Pretty much works as advertised. Pedals well under power and handles like it is on rails.

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    Nice looking bike. Did you buy just the frame and custom build it? Any issues with pedal strikes?

    I just received my Scout 2 today. I am trying to get it built in time to ride on Saturday. Pictures to follow!

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    I had the parts already from a previous build and just transferred them to the frame. No pedal strikes today but the bike is low so it is something to be aware of.

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    Cool bike. Enves, Next cranks, XX1, KS LEV. I'm waiting for ride reports...

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    Such a sweet looking bike...Just trying to find a way to justify getting a Scout frame for myself.

    Feel like doing a bit of a ride report? curious to know how it rides compared with other bikes you've been on. How does the long reach and short stay feel? I'm uncertain about this whole new school long reach thing as I like a tight cockpit for descending so I'm curious to know how it feels. I bet it rails corners with the low bb and short stays

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    I got the bike built up on 2/18/15 and have about 70+ miles on it so far. I have owned a Preston, Dirtbag, Bottle Rocket, Blindside, Bandit 26, Carbon Covert, Bandit 27.5 and now the Scout. You might say I am well versed in riding Transition Bikes. I have also owned a Yeti SB-66c and ridden a multitude of other bikes.

    The Scout is fantastic. There is a small amount of pedal bob when casually pedaling down the street and cruising on flat trail. When you start to really put the power down the suspension firms up and the result is forward momentum. In my opinion this is a welcome change. Transition bikes have always been supremely fun to ride but not exactly the most efficient. Whether that is important to you or not depends on personal preference.

    The "new" geometry takes a bit to get used to. I am 5'8" so I sit squarely on a medium. I first installed a 50mm stem. The bike felt good on climbs but I felt a bit stretched out on the downhill. I went for a ride last night with a 35mm stem installed. I don't feel like I gave up too much on the climbing position and the downhill felt much better, much more playful. I have a 40mm stem on the way and I think that is going to be my sweet spot. The new geometry does put you inside the wheels and I really like that for cornering. I teach mtb clinics where I live and I think the techniques I preach for cornering become easier with this geometry. With a shorter stem the bike came alive when needing to lift the front wheel and quickly airing out over sections of trail. The bottom bracket is super low and will require attention when pedaling through rocky terrain. I think this is just something to adjust to and not really a negative.

    I hope this helps some of you in your decision making and fire away with questions if you need more info.

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    Thanks for the review man. I am dying for my scout frame to get here. One question, what travel are you running your fork at? I am getting a new 36 and I am trying to decide on 140 or 150. The axle to crown on the new 36 fork is actually 3 mm lower than a Pike, so I should be good either way.
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    I am running the Mattoc at 140 because I wanted to see how the bike handled with the geometry Transition designed the bike for. I think it works really well but I think I will eventually bump it to 150 to give it a slight increase in BB height and pedal clearance without really changing the nature of the bike.

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    Hey that's some great feedback bud, thx for that.

    I Ride a 2014 covert 650b and feel the same about the ride, feels great and fun when pointed downhill but kinda cumbersome and overkill on anything that requires peddling. Keen on trying the new platform and the smaller amount of travel, think it will really give a lively super fun rid. Took me a while to even get used to the longer reach that the covert had and the new scouts are even longer so it's good to hear you felt good with a 35mm stem. I'm 5'8 as well.

    You've almost got me going down the the lbs and putting down some $. Hard to justify when I just bought a new bike but the scout just seems like such a perfect bike for the trails I ride.

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    I got out for another ride yesterday afternoon and am confident that most people would want to run a shorter stem with this new geometry. Manualing and moving the bike about is much easier with the 35mm stem than with the 50mm. In my opinion this is sort of how the bike was designed and meant to be ridden but that certainly can be different depending on your height. The more I ride this bike the more I like it. Yesterday I rode a trail that has you charging through some rock sections and the bike is unflappable. Never once did I feel like I was overwhelming the travel or slowed down because of it. The bike is quiet and feels super solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan the Terrible View Post
    I got out for another ride yesterday afternoon and am confident that most people would want to run a shorter stem with this new geometry. Manualing and moving the bike about is much easier with the 35mm stem than with the 50mm. In my opinion this is sort of how the bike was designed and meant to be ridden but that certainly can be different depending on your height. The more I ride this bike the more I like it. Yesterday I rode a trail that has you charging through some rock sections and the bike is unflappable. Never once did I feel like I was overwhelming the travel or slowed down because of it. The bike is quiet and feels super solid.
    That's awesome that you feel the bike handled the rough stuff no worries. It's tempting to go with the longer travel Patrol for that reason but if the Scout can handle mostly anything without a worry and be more nimble and fun on the flatter trails it sounds like the perfect bike.

    I was reading a Patrol review I believe Decline did and they just kept raving about how well it cornered. I'm assuming with the even lower bb and shorter stays the Scout must rail corners like a demon. What's your thoughts on how the Scout feels in the corners compared with other bikes you've been on?

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    I have been riding my Scout for several weeks now with a 50mm stem. I am shopping a 40mm stem currently. It is funny to me that with this new geometry that 50mm is considered long, but my experience is holding it to be true. I think the front end will come up easier and the bike will ride better with the shorter stem. Which 35mm stem did you run with Ivan?

    Also, this bike corners very well. Better than the SC Blur TR I was on previously. Way better actually. Also the stiffness of the suspension is amazing. I didn't know it at the time but the Blur TR is a noodle compared to the Scout.

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    For my local trails I am a fan of the travel and playful nature of the Scout. We don't have a lot of tight turns on our local trails, at least not the ones that are rideable right now, but the bike does corner really well and the stout nature of the bike (laterally) is noticeable. Of the bikes I have ridden to date this thing is easily on par with or surpasses them in cornering.

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    I am running a 35mm Easton Havoc stem and have a 40mm Spank Spoon on the way. The more I ride the bike with the 35mm stem on it I feel like I may have jumped the gun on ordering the 40mm.

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    Ivan can you comment on the Scout vs the SB66C? I know they are fairly different but I am most interested in how they compare pedaling wise.

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    Ivan,
    I'm just at 5'7" tall. Would you feel that I would fit on a medium sized frame? Hope you don't mind, your are fairly close in size and considering that you teach riding I'm sure you would have a eye for sizing.
    I'm always right in the middle of a small and med frame. Small frames usually feel to cramped but that was on the older school frame sizing. As a reference, my last bike was a medium Turner RFX. About 22"-22.5" top tube.

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    I got the bike built up on 2/18/15 and have about 70+ miles on it so far. I have owned a Preston, Dirtbag, Bottle Rocket, Blindside, Bandit 26, Carbon Covert, Bandit 27.5 and now the Scout. You might say I am well versed in riding Transition Bikes. I have also owned a Yeti SB-66c and ridden a multitude of other bikes.

    The Scout is fantastic. There is a small amount of pedal bob when casually pedaling down the street and cruising on flat trail. When you start to really put the power down the suspension firms up and the result is forward momentum. In my opinion this is a welcome change. Transition bikes have always been supremely fun to ride but not exactly the most efficient. Whether that is important to you or not depends on personal preference.

    The "new" geometry takes a bit to get used to. I am 5'8" so I sit squarely on a medium. I first installed a 50mm stem. The bike felt good on climbs but I felt a bit stretched out on the downhill. I went for a ride last night with a 35mm stem installed. I don't feel like I gave up too much on the climbing position and the downhill felt much better, much more playful. I have a 40mm stem on the way and I think that is going to be my sweet spot. The new geometry does put you inside the wheels and I really like that for cornering. I teach mtb clinics where I live and I think the techniques I preach for cornering become easier with this geometry. With a shorter stem the bike came alive when needing to lift the front wheel and quickly airing out over sections of trail. The bottom bracket is super low and will require attention when pedaling through rocky terrain. I think this is just something to adjust to and not really a negative.

    I hope this helps some of you in your decision making and fire away with questions if you need more info.
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    They are really different. The Yeti always felt pretty firm whereas the Scout is pretty active all the time. The Scout does put the power down nicely when you get on the pedals but I would think over really rough terrain the traction would be incredible, more so than the Yeti.
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    Agreed, this bike does corner super well. I had an Easton Havoc 35 on there. I now have a 40mm Spank Spoon. This bike is awesome!

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    I really like the way the medium feels. I have a 40mm stem and the bike feels perfect. It really all comes down to what you are looking for. On our trails I am digging the wheelbase and stability. This geometry really puts you inside the wheels when out of the saddle and it makes it corner like a beast.

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    Pike!

    Updated pic...I put a 150mm Pike on the front. It still handles great but the BB is up a hair which is a benefit regarding pedal clearance.
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    Thanks! It is a very sweet bike! I did find a sizing chart on transitions website and does recommend a medium frame for my height.

    I have a medium Warden but feel it's a bit big for me but I really want a smaller, more flickable fun bike for the majority of the trails I ride on. Plus I take the 56 year old wifey out riding on her FSR trail bike. So the Scout looks like a top contender!

    May I ask where you ride at mostly?
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    I live in Boise, Idaho. We don't have an abundance of technical trails but the bike performs well on the ones we do have. Our local rides consist of lots of loose over hard pack fast flowy trails. The reach on the small is still pretty long so I don't think you would feel cramped if you go that route and it may suit your riding style/trails better.

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    Anybody running a double front ring on a Scout? I'm looking to do just that, but not sure how why the Transition Scout webpage specifies a 26/38 double. Will my 24/38 crankset work, or do I need a bigger granny ring for some reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toodles View Post
    Anybody running a double front ring on a Scout? I'm looking to do just that, but not sure how why the Transition Scout webpage specifies a 26/38 double. Will my 24/38 crankset work, or do I need a bigger granny ring for some reason?
    No - you are fine. That was meant to be a "Max" scenario... less is no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transition Bikes View Post
    No - you are fine. That was meant to be a "Max" scenario... less is no problem.
    I love the fact you guys care enough to monitor this forum!

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