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    Last part of my build. How do you guys get the cable housing for the dropper through the bend above the BB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rorhound View Post
    Last part of my build. How do you guys get the cable housing for the dropper through the bend above the BB?
    I have a Fall Line on my Patrol, so I threaded the cable through the frame first, making the housing slide through slick as shit

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    Does anybody of you need a brand new Float X 230 x 65 mm for the 2017 Patrol?
    Shipping from Germany.

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    Patrol frame uses 216mm eye to eye

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullit43 View Post
    Patrol frame uses 216mm eye to eye
    The 2017 one does not. It uses a 230x65 shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    The 2017 one does not. It uses a 230x65 shock.
    Metric

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    Some of the frames do even have metric bushings - which are not available for aftermarket right now. Bike industry seems to be more about marketing than realizing products... 😏

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    Has anyone tried fitting Hope brakes with their braided hoses in the Carbon Patrol? I'm worried that the hose diameter would be too large for the TITS on the frame.
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    Transition Patrol Carbon custom build

    Have a look at this custom build from South Africa
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    I've been riding my 2017 metric patrol for a little while now and have to say it's great. I just fitted a rockguardz carbon protector ( they are still moulded for the 2016 but fits ok) I'm hoping fox do the X2 in metric sizing soon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Adam View Post
    I've been riding my 2017 metric patrol for a little while now and have to say it's great. I just fitted a rockguardz carbon protector ( they are still moulded for the 2016 but fits ok) I'm hoping fox do the X2 in metric sizing soon.
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    One week on my 2016 build. Threw an X2 on it Friday night and tested it out yesterday and it's a definite improvement. Gonna add a spacer today and see how that feels.




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    Nice, looking good !! Plus as bad as it's sounds the rockshock doesn't look right as everything else is fox lol. Once I've done that I'm going to give some nextie carbon rims a blast.


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    Well like a couple of you I am waiting for the metric X2 to be released. I stubble over this recently and followed it up at the source. They are currently being used for by teams.Apparently the upgrade will be available in May !!!


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    ^ Metric X2's are available already in some countries. Should be out later this month in the U.K.

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    Hello,

    A question to 2017 Patrol owners:
    What is your weight and super deluxe inflation pressure?
    I weight 170lbs w/ riding gear but somehow get 35% sag on 140psi
    I know its usually the psi equivalent of the weight (My Scout was 170psi for example) or has this got something to do with the super deluxe?
    I personally prefer a slightly stiffer setup but then I'm getting less than the recommended sag

    Appreciate your input

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    I'm very nearly the same as you. Sucks, because with the shock down on psi to get the right sag, and right riding characteristics, I bottom out fairly frequently which my rear rim does not like one bit.

    Cannot wait until DVO releases the Topaz in metric so I can pair it with the Diamond up front

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    I'm 190lb before gear and I run 140psi on the Super Deluxe to get 35% sag. Seems way low but it works well. I feel like it could use another bottom-out spacer or something, if that's even an option for these shocks.

    Edit: Remember, there is more piston area on this shock than with the Monarch. There is no inner "sleeve", so the piston face is going all the way to the outer wall of the shock. Same force, more area, less pounds per square inch.

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    I currently have a fox 36 160mm on my patrol just wondering how you guys like running 170mm ? I might be switching over to a mrp ribbon and if i do i plan on going 170mm... any complaints? Has anyone run both? I wouldn't mind the extra 10mm of height I'm thinking it would make the front end ride a little higher in the travel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njhardrock View Post
    I currently have a fox 36 160mm on my patrol just wondering how you guys like running 170mm ? I might be switching over to a mrp ribbon and if i do i plan on going 170mm... any complaints? Has anyone run both? I wouldn't mind the extra 10mm of height I'm thinking it would make the front end ride a little higher in the travel...
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    Here is my bike with a 170mm Lyrik. I have since switch to a 160mm 36. For me and my trails the extra 10mm felt like I was wandering the front end to much on the climbs. 160mm will pull you more forward on the bike keeping that front wheel down. The 170mm will feel like your sitting on the back wheel more. Both has its plus and minus.

    As far as your front end riding higher in the travel you may want to stiffen up your fork settings to allow it to ride higher but you would most likely be sacrificing suppleness and small bump.

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    What sort of differences have you guys noticed when changed out your rear shock for an X2?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vsong View Post
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    Here is my bike with a 170mm Lyrik. I have since switch to a 160mm 36. For me and my trails the extra 10mm felt like I was wandering the front end to much on the climbs. 160mm will pull you more forward on the bike keeping that front wheel down. The 170mm will feel like your sitting on the back wheel more. Both has its plus and minus.

    As far as your front end riding higher in the travel you may want to stiffen up your fork settings to allow it to ride higher but you would most likely be sacrificing suppleness and small bump.
    Thanks... yea I have a tuned the fork with 2 spacers and every setting imaginable... i feel like the 160 wanders on climbs anyway so why not try and let this bike be good at what it does... go down....thanks for your feedback it's much appreciated

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    I have a x2 on my patrol... definitely a improvement over the same stock shock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njhardrock View Post
    I have a x2 on my patrol... definitely a improvement over the same stock shock
    What sort of improvements? Did the pedalling improve and climbing with increased descending ability ?


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    It bobs less... the ramp up can be made slightly more progressive... I barely use my climb switch... i still wish i went coil but it's definitely better

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    Anyone else on the 170mm vs 160mm fork debate?

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    What's the debate? You like travel, get it.

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    Awesome morning yesterday on dusty trails. Can't wait to wack a metric X2 on this bad boy. Uplift day this Sunday for a real test as well.


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    Finally finished my build. Taking it out this afternoon to tune it in.

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    Spending more time on the Patrol lately and loving it. Bike is great in the chunk and have yet to feel like I'm being held back. Just picked up the Float X2 and feel like I'm 80% dialed with my settings.

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    Does anyone on here own an XL they can post a picture of I'm considering sizing up


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    Sam Adam,
    See post #155. I've made a few changes but the frame is an XL.
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    Hi guys, how would this bike be for trail/enduro? I need a bike good for technical rocky stuff but that can still decend and climb. (Looking at used 2015 Patrol 3)

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    So after having my patrol for about a year now and riding several other horst link bikes i gotta say... my patrol rides harsh in the rear....I've upgraded to a float x2 and i still cannot make this bike feel good... i don't understand it honestly... whenever i can get my sag to 35-40% it feels ok but then i gobble up the travel and it still doesn't seem great uptop.. I am honestly just to the point of saying maybe this frame isn't for me because i have hopped on several bikes without tuning the suspension that made me smile more and beat me up less... i am a light rider... but now i have all the spacers installed in my x2 i get the sag 35ish and its just ruff..but then I don't bottom out i have even contacted avalanche and they seem to think they can tune the shock .... it's like I can't have plush and not bottoming out... please any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njhardrock View Post
    So after having my patrol for about a year now and riding several other horst link bikes i gotta say... my patrol rides harsh in the rear....I've upgraded to a float x2 and i still cannot make this bike feel good... i don't understand it honestly... whenever i can get my sag to 35-40% it feels ok but then i gobble up the travel and it still doesn't seem great uptop.. I am honestly just to the point of saying maybe this frame isn't for me because i have hopped on several bikes without tuning the suspension that made me smile more and beat me up less... i am a light rider... but now i have all the spacers installed in my x2 i get the sag 35ish and its just ruff..but then I don't bottom out i have even contacted avalanche and they seem to think they can tune the shock .... it's like I can't have plush and not bottoming out... please any suggestions?
    Get a Quarq Shockwiz. (Or rent one for the day from your LBS they are a little pricey) They are little computers that set your suspension to the perfect settings for you (rebound sag and the works). You can choice between a bunch of different options to. They are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njhardrock View Post
    So after having my patrol for about a year now and riding several other horst link bikes i gotta say... my patrol rides harsh in the rear....I've upgraded to a float x2 and i still cannot make this bike feel good... i don't understand it honestly... whenever i can get my sag to 35-40% it feels ok but then i gobble up the travel and it still doesn't seem great uptop.. I am honestly just to the point of saying maybe this frame isn't for me because i have hopped on several bikes without tuning the suspension that made me smile more and beat me up less... i am a light rider... but now i have all the spacers installed in my x2 i get the sag 35ish and its just ruff..but then I don't bottom out i have even contacted avalanche and they seem to think they can tune the shock .... it's like I can't have plush and not bottoming out... please any suggestions?
    exciting times for you, new bike on the way!

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    To be honest I can really see much I would buy over the Patrol at the moment. I'm really close to changing it for an Evil calling but to be fair I'm not sure I'm going to gain that much in additional pedalling efficiency or climbing. I'm thinking of getting carbon wheels and a metric X2. For a 160 bike the patrol is a very good all rounder. I do regret getting rid of my yeti 5.5 though


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    Thanks... but what is this shock tuner going to do for me at this point? I've literally dialed in every setting and changed spacers 4 times... i know this is a low leverage bike but im starting to think it's just not the bike for me...I've had a heckler that beat me up less then this bike....I've tried to tune the monarch and the x2 for months now.... and honestly it's effecting my confidence on jumps because this bike just pogo's me... i just demo'd another brand horst link and felt more comfortable on a bike i was on for 10 minutes... this bike rails berms and is poppy ill give it that but i feel i loose plush for poppy... Totally frustrating and disappointing after i year of owning this bike to constantly have to mess with aomthing and it never feels right

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    My experience is with completely different bikes and I'm also heavy rider, but for me lots of spacers turned my bike into hardtail. Now I try to use as few spacers as possible, use higher pressure to control the bottom out and reduce HSC to get back the sensitivity over smaller stuff. You must get the LSR and HSR balance right to avoid pogoing and packing.

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    Appreciate the feedback... i was thinking the same thing so i dialed it back to 1 spacer at a point in the float x2 set the sag... felt better then i bottomed on big hits and drops...so i felt like ok let me try and go the opposite way more spacers.... right now im running low pressure all
    The spacers i can ... feels ok... got low speed rebound slow high speed open pretty much.... going to ride right now and see what happens when i hit some drops ...i feel like my body weight and the fact im light on my feet as a rider is making this tuff for me... it's not like i am hating on the bike because theres a ton i love about this frame and company... but you build a bike to have fun not screw with it constantly... thanks again for the feedback I really do appreciate it!!

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    This is probably going to sound condescending but don't take it that way, have you thought at calling the techs at Mojo. I did recently regarding some tips on my forks. I've got to say they were really helpful and it helped me transform my forks. Worth a call .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Njhardrock View Post
    got low speed rebound slow high speed open pretty much
    Hmm. I would suggest you to try to speed up the low speed rebound - if it is slow the shock is packing up and feels harsh. Then, as you open the low speed rebound compensate by closing the high speed rebound otherwise the shock is going to kick you out of saddle during bigger compressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    ^ Metric X2's are available already in some countries. Should be out later this month in the U.K.
    Where are you UK guys getting your Metric X2's?
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    Patrol build thread

    They aren't out in the UK yet. The pictures you are seeing are team custom made shocks. The production models aren't actually released yet in the UK


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezwhip View Post
    Where are you UK guys getting your Metric X2's?
    Germany.

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    Hey guys!
    Some super nice builds in this thread.
    I just ordered my Patrol frame today which will take about two weeks to get here (live in Australia and supplier had none in stock in my size so gotta get one from the states).
    Anyway will post pics as I build it up. Quick run down on spec will be 160mm lyrik, xt/xtr gearing, nextie Carbon wheel set and bikeyoke/KS dropper.

    Just wondering what sort of frame protection you guys are using and what bits need it the most!

    Thanks in advance!

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    Lately I've been going to places that do car tint and been getting scraps of 3M Clear bra. It might take a bit longer as it isn't already cut for size, but for free fifty I'm happy with it.

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    Going to have a build coming up. Transfering parts from my N3 over to a used Patrol Carbon frame in blue. Going to get some custom pink decals so, it will be the same colours as my old Nomad 38mm carbon rims, saint brakes, 160 Pikes, X01 running gear, enve stem and bars, 150 KS lev. Should be awesome Looking forward to the longer reach.

    Also looking into long shocking it........I have my flame suit on.

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    Hey guys, getting the parts lined up for my new Carbon patrol build, quick questions, what rear brake mount do I need for a Shimano Saint Caliper with a 203 rotor? I've ordered one of these, but not sure if it's correct.
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    Here's my 2016 Patrol Build 3 with few ANVL upgrades, SRAM X1 cassette/chain and relaced wheels with Stan's FLOW Mk3 rims because I manage to kill the front stock WTB i25 rim coming in too fast in a burm right after a jump...

    Now their's already two good dents in the rear FLOW Mk3 after beeing enthusiastic with lower pressure (25/28psi F/R). It seems like Minions 2.3 isn't a good match for the 30mm rims... :/
    I've run 27/30psi F/R since I've managed to re-mount the DHR2 tubeless despite the dents and a cutted sidewall repaired with tire patchs and strings... that evil machine rips wheels & tires!

    So I couldn't resist for a new CRC ARC30/Hope Pro 4 wheelset on sale to mount WT Minions on them! I want my lower pressure back and hopefully, no more dents...

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    Finished my build of my 2017 patrol carbon. Took it for a quick ride last night on some local trails and was quite impressed even without having the suspension set up properly.
    Specs for the build are

    Frame: 17 Patrol Carbon in XL with rockshox super deluxe rc3
    Fork: 17 Rockshox Lyrik RCT3 160mm
    Wheels: Nextie 35mm carbon rims laced to DT swiss 350 hubs
    Tyres: Magic Mary Front/Ardent Rear.
    Gearing: Shimano XT cranks in 170mm, XT chain and XT cranks. XTR Shifter and Derailleur.
    Brakes: Shimano XT 203/180 rotors
    Seat post: Bikeyoke Revive 160mm drop
    seat: Fabric scoop shallow carbon
    Bar/Stem: Deity TMO bars in 760mm/ Deity Copperhead Stem 35mm (redmonkey Silicone lock grips)
    Pedals: HT T1

    eventually plan on putting some Saint Callipers on with the XT levers and upgrading the cranks to Raceface next G4's But the XT's will do for now.

    Tipped the scales at 13.6KG's with pedals, Which isn't to bad for an XL frame.

    Keen to get out there on it more now!!

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    First ride on the Patrol yesterday, coming from a N3.
    Felt ok, havent touched the shock settings yet. Def a bit more active under pedalling then the Nomad, but maybe a couple of clicks of LSC will help that. But the trade off is the patrol felt better/softer when pedalling over roots etc.
    Some pretty loud chainslap in the rough stuff, had read it's meant to be very quiet, I better double check everything is done up tight! Also did some custom cable routing as I'm not a fan of the brake cable exiting the front of the bike the same side as the lever (im in Australia).
    Looking forward to getting it setup, any tips on setup with the DHx2? Bottomed it out pretty hard a couple of times, might need some more HSC.

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    Fit a stiffer spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by POAH View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    First ride on the Patrol yesterday, coming from a N3.
    Felt ok, havent touched the shock settings yet. Def a bit more active under pedalling then the Nomad, but maybe a couple of clicks of LSC will help that. But the trade off is the patrol felt better/softer when pedalling over roots etc.
    Some pretty loud chainslap in the rough stuff, had read it's meant to be very quiet, I better double check everything is done up tight! Also did some custom cable routing as I'm not a fan of the brake cable exiting the front of the bike the same side as the lever (im in Australia).
    Looking forward to getting it setup, any tips on setup with the DHx2? Bottomed it out pretty hard a couple of times, might need some more HSC.

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    Surprised your feeling movement in the suspension while pedaling... Im almost 200 pounds and dont get any bob. It's probably just your settings. And for the noise wrap a layer of electrical tape or 3m velcro over the chain stay protector. This seemed to help me BUT I realized a lot of the noise actually comes from the internal cable routing.
    Enjoy the bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnoowMTB View Post
    Surprised your feeling movement in the suspension while pedaling... Im almost 200 pounds and dont get any bob. It's probably just your settings. And for the noise wrap a layer of electrical tape or 3m velcro over the chain stay protector. This seemed to help me BUT I realized a lot of the noise actually comes from the internal cable routing.
    Enjoy the bike!
    Thanks had a look at the DHx2 settings and since I hadnt changed anything since the Nomad I was def off with the settings. The Nomad recommended settings were around 11-13 clicks for the rebound and compression, when I looked up the chart for the Patrols travel most of the settings are in the 16 range, probably explains it

    But I'm actually giving an X2 a go for the weekend, any tips on setup? I've got 150psi in for my weight of 75kgs/165lbs, around 33% sag. As per the fox chart I've set the shock to 16-20 clicks, is this the range other people have landed at for a similar weight? I've only got the weekend with the shock and want to get as dialed as possible, as quick as possible to see if I want to go down that route as opposed to the coil
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Thanks had a look at the DHx2 settings and since I hadnt changed anything since the Nomad I was def off with the settings. The Nomad recommended settings were around 11-13 clicks for the rebound and compression, when I looked up the chart for the Patrols travel most of the settings are in the 16 range, probably explains it

    But I'm actually giving an X2 a go for the weekend, any tips on setup? I've got 150psi in for my weight of 75kgs/165lbs, around 33% sag. As per the fox chart I've set the shock to 16-20 clicks, is this the range other people have landed at for a similar weight? I've only got the weekend with the shock and want to get as dialed as possible, as quick as possible to see if I want to go down that route as opposed to the coil
    Thanks!
    Nice! I've never ridden an X2 so I cant help ya You raelly cant go wrong either way though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Hey guys, getting the parts lined up for my new Carbon patrol build, quick questions, what rear brake mount do I need for a Shimano Saint Caliper with a 203 rotor? I've ordered one of these, but not sure if it's correct.
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    Yes that is what you will need. 2 of them if you need one for your fork as well. (at least thats what my pike used)

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Thanks had a look at the DHx2 settings and since I hadnt changed anything since the Nomad I was def off with the settings. The Nomad recommended settings were around 11-13 clicks for the rebound and compression, when I looked up the chart for the Patrols travel most of the settings are in the 16 range, probably explains it

    But I'm actually giving an X2 a go for the weekend, any tips on setup? I've got 150psi in for my weight of 75kgs/165lbs, around 33% sag. As per the fox chart I've set the shock to 16-20 clicks, is this the range other people have landed at for a similar weight? I've only got the weekend with the shock and want to get as dialed as possible, as quick as possible to see if I want to go down that route as opposed to the coil
    Thanks!
    I heft hut
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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Thanks had a look at the DHx2 settings and since I hadnt changed anything since the Nomad I was def off with the settings. The Nomad recommended settings were around 11-13 clicks for the rebound and compression, when I looked up the chart for the Patrols travel most of the settings are in the 16 range, probably explains it

    But I'm actually giving an X2 a go for the weekend, any tips on setup? I've got 150psi in for my weight of 75kgs/165lbs, around 33% sag. As per the fox chart I've set the shock to 16-20 clicks, is this the range other people have landed at for a similar weight? I've only got the weekend with the shock and want to get as dialed as possible, as quick as possible to see if I want to go down that route as opposed to the coil
    Thanks!
    Look at the Fox chart and notice it goes from 150mm travel to 160mm travel. The difference between those two is 6 clicks (I think it's 6 clicks not having the book in front of me). The patrol is 155mm so my starting point was 3 clicks less than 160mm and/or 3 clicks more than the 150mm travel recommendation. I've fine tuned from there but it felt way better to begin with.

    That being said, I love the way it feels with the DHX2. Very planted and much more predictable from the stock RS (2016 Patrol). I've paired it with a MRP Ribbon fork and now I have a whole new bike again!

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    My 2016 Transition Patrol

    Just got a 2016 demo Transition Patrol. Pretty much all stock at this point. Just got back from my 2nd ride and had a ton of pedal strikes and a few bashes on the chain/chainring. Anyone using a bashguard and have a recommendation? I'm looking at the MRP XCg. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kablamo View Post
    Just got a 2016 demo Transition Patrol. Pretty much all stock at this point. Just got back from my 2nd ride and had a ton of pedal strikes and a few bashes on the chain/chainring. Anyone using a bashguard and have a recommendation? I'm looking at the MRP XCg. Thanks!

    I use the e13 LG1+ ISCG05. It works as a chain guide as well as a bash guard and has saved my ass so many times. Really durable and strong as well. No complaints other than the $160 price tag...

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    Quick a pic of where it stands at the moment I missed my old Nomad colours haha
    Only had 1 ride on it so far, got held up the last 2 weekends
    Should get some shuttle action in this weekend.
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    Set the one up components,cheaper and much less bulky

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Quick a pic of where it stands at the moment I missed my old Nomad colours haha
    Only had 1 ride on it so far, got held up the last 2 weekends
    Should get some shuttle action in this weekend.
    Pretty cool colors, what is with the cable not routed internally? is that your brake line?
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

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    Yep, being in Australia the internal routing put the brake cable out on the same side of the lever, pet peeve of mine so I decided to run it externally for now, still need to get some jagwire stick on guides to tidy it up.
    Pretty happy with the colors

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Yep, being in Australia the internal routing put the brake cable out on the same side of the lever, pet peeve of mine so I decided to run it externally for now, still need to get some jagwire stick on guides to tidy it up.
    Pretty happy with the colors
    Gotcha.
    I also run my brakes moto but the cable exiting from the same side doesn't bother me.
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