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    Here's mine...30.5 lbs of FUN. Just stole the lyrik from my other bike today. I had a coil sektor on it but felt like that was the weakest link. Felt great on a short ride today. First real test tomorrow.

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    ^^^ Nice - Gold bars look so pimp with the green of the Bandit
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    What was it about the sektor that you thought was the weakest link, was it performance or flex from the 32 stantions? i'm thinking of building a bandit with a coil sektor, however, i upgraded the rebound to dual flow black box from a rev and its pretty sweet fork got it on a meta 4x just now and i love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyninja View Post
    What was it about the sektor that you thought was the weakest link, was it performance or flex from the 32 stantions? i'm thinking of building a bandit with a coil sektor, however, i upgraded the rebound to dual flow black box from a rev and its pretty sweet fork got it on a meta 4x just now and i love it.
    i have a sektor on my bike(not bandit) and think the fork works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyninja View Post
    What was it about the sektor that you thought was the weakest link, was it performance or flex from the 32 stantions? i'm thinking of building a bandit with a coil sektor, however, i upgraded the rebound to dual flow black box from a rev and its pretty sweet fork got it on a meta 4x just now and i love it.
    I ride it with a Sektor Coil RL (20mm) and love it. Intresting tweek. I might try that.

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    Here's mine...30.5 lbs of FUN. Just stole the lyrik from my other bike today. I had a coil sektor on it but felt like that was the weakest link. Felt great on a short ride today. First real test tomorrow.
    Very nice! Do you have an angleset or is it just the picture? It does look slack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyninja View Post
    What was it about the sektor that you thought was the weakest link, was it performance or flex from the 32 stantions? i'm thinking of building a bandit with a coil sektor, however, i upgraded the rebound to dual flow black box from a rev and its pretty sweet fork got it on a meta 4x just now and i love it.
    I upgraded my sektor with blackbox motion control and rebound. I really like the fork and it will go back on my hardtail now. It always felt good over rough stuff in a straight line but in really hard corners and while braking I felt like it was twisting a bit. It's also not light so I figured the lyrik would not be much of a sacrifice in that regard. I took it on a proper ride on yesterday and loved it with the lyrik. I was way more confident in the corners and everything felt very stiff. I converted my coil 170 to a coil u-turn and set the travel at about 145mm. I do have a 1.5 deg angleset on there as well which puts the HA about 66.

    I rode the bike from November to now with the sektor and I have loved it. The desire to change to the lyrik was mostly due to the fact that I ride the bandit almost exclusively now and want it to be able to handle some of the steeper rockier trails that I got used to riding fast on my reignx. The bandit climbs so much better and is just more fun overall that I rarely even want to ride my other bikes. I do think the sektor (coil) is a good fit for the bike but a soloair lyrik is almost the same weight (2000g ish) and the coil uturn is about a pound more. For me at least after one ride, the extra pound is worth it. I am tempted to try a lyrik soloair and see if I can get the best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haakan View Post
    Very nice! Do you have an angleset or is it just the picture? It does look slack.
    Yes I do have an angleset on there. Pain in the ass to keep quiet but not impossible. I like it much better. BB is just under 13" I believe and the HA about 66 deg.

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    Here it is with the sektor right after I built it. I've swapped around quite a few parts since then. Mine is a 2011 model with the regular dropouts. I have found the rear end is much stiffer with a thru axle rear hub. I have a hadley 10mm thru on mine now. It is currently laced to a WTB laserdisc FR rim and I'm not 100% sure if the stiffness comes from the burly wide rim or the hub. I've been meaning to lace a stans flow on there and check but It's a fair bit of work and I love the way the rear end feels now. Also tempted to try the pacenti rims as they would get me back under 30 lbs but again it would be a lot of work and the weight of the bike isn't bothering me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marti163 View Post
    Yes I do have an angleset on there. Pain in the ass to keep quiet but not impossible. I like it much better. BB is just under 13" I believe and the HA about 66 deg.
    I'm waiting for a Works Components -1 deg. Hopefully that is easier to set up.

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    Here it is with the sektor right after I built it. I've swapped around quite a few parts since then. Mine is a 2011 model with the regular dropouts. I have found the rear end is much stiffer with a thru axle rear hub. I have a hadley 10mm thru on mine now. It is currently laced to a WTB laserdisc FR rim and I'm not 100% sure if the stiffness comes from the burly wide rim or the hub. I've been meaning to lace a stans flow on there and check but It's a fair bit of work and I love the way the rear end feels now. Also tempted to try the pacenti rims as they would get me back under 30 lbs but again it would be a lot of work and the weight of the bike isn't bothering me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    ^^^ Nice - Gold bars look so pimp with the green of the Bandit
    I happen to have a gold chromag bar (although they call it root beer) which I believe would look el pimpster on a green bandit as well.
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    just got my bandit frame!

    any idea if i can throw in a RS monarch rc3 plus with the bandit?

    planning on purchasing a PUSHD RS monarch rc3 plus as an upgrade.

    I'm worried about the clearance of the shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franz15 View Post
    just got my bandit frame!

    any idea if i can throw in a RS monarch rc3 plus with the bandit?

    planning on purchasing a PUSHD RS monarch rc3 plus as an upgrade.

    I'm worried about the clearance of the shock.
    I don't think you will have any problems with fit. I'd give the rp23 a fair chance first though. I thought I'd be swapping mine out but it's working great. I never use the propedal lever and set the compression tune to 1 in the open position. Climbs and descends great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marti163 View Post
    I don't think you will have any problems with fit. I'd give the rp23 a fair chance first though. I thought I'd be swapping mine out but it's working great. I never use the propedal lever and set the compression tune to 1 in the open position. Climbs and descends great.
    thanks marti. just want to try out the monarch rc3 plus for an alternative and out of curiosity been reading a lot of good reviews from that shock.

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    My bandit updated with Hope hubs (142*12 rear), High Rollers, KS Drop Zone, Silent Guide, Superstar flat pedals and Works Angle set -1. I can highly recommend angle set. Now it's a beast. (Sorry for the crappy pic)
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    I took my bike to work today.

    First he got set up in a cube

    Then we got coffee

    Finally i found him trying to do funny things with the copier.... Not sure he's allowed back here.
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    Finally got mine built up. Bandit 1 build kit, with a fair bit of gear swapped out to Spank parts. The wheel set is a lot heavier than the Cobalts, but I'm not hugely concerned about weight.

    Loving this bike though. I'm pretty much using it as an AM bike - pedalling it up to bomb it down.




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    Curious to hear your ride experience compared to the TransAM.
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    Well my first ride was yesterday, I can say the geometry and the riding position was really close to the TransAM, even though the seat tube on the Bandit is steeper. I felt really at home on it. Riding characteristics are similar as well, this ride is definitely stiffer and tracked better, and with the way the suspension handled it was really fun on the way down, I also found it seriously capable and comfortable going up some pretty technical climbs.

    I will ride it every day these next 10 days so I can get a better riding report then.

    First impressions were VERY good!

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    Large Bandit frame

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    Anyone have a used Bandit 26" frame only for sale?

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    Check this review out, What Mountain Bike Magazine voted the Bandit 2 "Connoisseur's Choice 2012"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Thanks eurospek.....looking for used large frame.

    Thanks again

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    I've got a Large if you've got a Med...

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    I could use some help on sizing. According to the sizing chart, me being 5-7 puts me just outside of the small size, but I can't imagine having an 18" bike (the medium). Anybody that's 5-7 have any input?

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    I'm 5-07 and I ride a medium. It's perfect for me with a 50mm stem. I have plenty of room to run a 5" dropper post too.
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    I am 5ft 7" and also ride a medium. It fits perfect.

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    Thanks. Especially for the info about there being room for a dropper post. After having my Reverb all summer I won't go without.

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    My baby, updated with dropper post, -1.5 headset, XT Trail pedals and Specialized Purgatory/Butcher tires. 28.8lbs as shown


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    What steering tube length is recommended for a 140mm fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davet View Post
    My baby, updated with dropper post, -1.5 headset, XT Trail pedals and Specialized Purgatory/Butcher tires. 28.8lbs as shown

    Sweet! I also run an angle set. How do you like it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haakan View Post
    Sweet! I also run an angle set. How do you like it now?
    I really like it for the terrain around here. I didn't notice any ill effects when climbing and it feels a bit more stable when it gets faster and steeper

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    davet, is that front derailleur way high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostRing View Post
    davet, is that front derailleur way high?
    I thought so too, but any lower and the chainstay will hit it at full compression. It appears worse as I'm running a 32tooth front ring and bashguard whereas most seem to be running 2x10 with a larger front ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innota View Post
    What steering tube length is recommended for a 140mm fork?
    Mine is 230mm. XL frame, i'm 6'4"

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    Quote Originally Posted by davet View Post
    I really like it for the terrain around here. I didn't notice any ill effects when climbing and it feels a bit more stable when it gets faster and steeper
    That's my impression too. Have a few Bandits around here and more people are thinking about mounting an angle set.
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    Im also thinking about trying an angle set.
    Not that I'm feeling limited due to the 68HA, but it would be fun to try out the hype.
    Or eccentric bushings beacuse they are cheaper really, but have anyone tried it?
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    I've got thoughts about offset bushings, I don't know if they are valid thoughts, possibly someone that knows suspension theory can chime in. Here goes, suspension designers spend a lot of time designing suspension curves. Offset bushing mess with that. They mimic the bike being deeper into the travel than it actually is, so if a particular suspension design's pedal platform is design to be at a certain point in the travel, now it's at a different place.

    I guess my point is, the Bandit is such an awesome pedaling bike, I don't think you'd want to do anything to mess with it.

    Besides that, the offset bushing lower the bottom bracket height too, and I don't think I'd want it any lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gridlocked View Post
    Im also thinking about trying an angle set.
    Not that I'm feeling limited due to the 68HA, but it would be fun to try out the hype.
    Or eccentric bushings beacuse they are cheaper really, but have anyone tried it?
    Go for a Works Components. Not as cheap as offset bushings but not as steep as Cane Creek. And as Davet said, you don't want the bb to be lower if you ride technical terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haakan View Post
    Go for a Works Components. Not as cheap as offset bushings but not as steep as Cane Creek. And as Davet said, you don't want the bb to be lower if you ride technical terrain.
    I use the Works Components as well. I've got too many friends that complain about the CC Angleset knocking and creaking. It may be due to improper installation/maintenance but this is a bike not a space shuttle, things shouldn't be that finicky. The Works unit is simple and it works, no issues, no clunking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gridlocked View Post
    Im also thinking about trying an angle set.
    Not that I'm feeling limited due to the 68HA, but it would be fun to try out the hype.
    Or eccentric bushings beacuse they are cheaper really, but have anyone tried it?
    I've done it and like it pretty well. I'm running a fox 36 up front and combined with the offset bushing I've certainly slackened the HA and lowered the BB from stock. I've wondered about the points made by Davet, but admit I'm not smart enough to know whether these concerns are valid. I've also never ridden the bike w/o the offset bushings to allow a comparison. I can say that I'm pretty damned happy with how the bike rides and how the suspension works, so it's not as if the offset renders the bike useless. I have found that I am running a bit more air pressure in the rear shock than some (about 5-10 PSI more than I weigh whereas some have said they are running fewer PSI than their weight), so wonder if that is somehow related to the change in effective shock length. It could also be that I like my suspension set up pretty stiff.

    An angleset will also lower your BB height, but it's not clear to me whether it would be the same amount of BB drop as the offset bushing. My BB is pretty damned low, but I can still get away with running 175 cranks. I'm used to low bikes (blur 4x at 12.6 and spitfire at 13.2 were my last 2 bikes) and have made the adjustments long ago, so I don't really notice it very much. I could see it bugging some people.

    Basically, I really like slack and low bikes and have for years. A slightly slacker Bandit is loads of fun and I highly recommend it if low and slack is your thing. Good part about the offset bushing at least is that if you don't like it, you're only out like 20 bucks.

    Edit: There is a pic of my bike right at the top of page 12 of this thread post #276...

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    My Bandit makes Bike of the Day at Vital MTB last week!


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    Quote Originally Posted by davet View Post
    I use the Works Components as well. I've got too many friends that complain about the CC Angleset knocking and creaking. It may be due to improper installation/maintenance but this is a bike not a space shuttle, things shouldn't be that finicky. The Works unit is simple and it works, no issues, no clunking.
    Hey Davet,

    Do you have the part numbers for the Works components angle cups? Very interested to try these out, probably -1.5 degree.

    Do you still use a tapered fork?

    Cheers

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    I have my transition bandit 26 (XL) now about 8months. I really like the bike, the geometry feels great (but maybe I'll try an anlgeset), the size is spot-on, it's light, it looks awesome... but I really hate the delivered fox float rp23....

    o boy, I can't get it right: it is bouncing & bottoming or it is harsh. I installed an old float with broken rebound and it really performs way better than the stock shock. Now I'm considering of buying a new one, but I would like to find out the problem first.

    What can be the problem? The wrong tune for my weight (1m95 so 220lbs)? Typical for the boostvalve shocks? Same probs with a kashima shock? Any tips for upgrade shocks?

    And how do I know the right tune? Now I've installed:
    velocity tune: F
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    and an extra question: can I use a down swing front derailleur on the frame?

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    Just got my 2013 Bandit 26 in orange peel. This thing is seriously beautiful when you get face to face. More pics coming up when it's built, but here's a touching first moment for you all:



    I got this thing as a crash replacement on a V1 Covert. Thanks for the help on this, Chris!

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    I'm torn between the two, I'd be interested in your thoughts once its been build and ridden.

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    Hopefully come Sunday I'll be able to respond with some details about the ride. I won't have much insight compared to how a 29er rides, though. Only full squis 29er I've been on was a Niner WFO at a demo for ~1.5 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitale232 View Post
    Just got my 2013 Bandit 26 in orange peel. This thing is seriously beautiful when you get face to face. More pics coming up when it's built, but here's a touching first moment for you all:



    I got this thing as a crash replacement on a V1 Covert. Thanks for the help on this, Chris!
    What size of bandit did you get and how tall are you? I don't have any place to test ride one so I am currious as to what size I should be on.
    Thanks,
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    I finished up the build this afternoon. The bike came together like a dream. It's officially parking lot approved, and gets its first dirt tomorrow!

    As I'd expect from a Transition frame, it's very playful. Easy to bunnyhop, wheelie, manual, etc. One big difference I'm noticing between this and my V1 Covert: The Bandit feels a lot more comfortable to pedal. Somehow they've managed to keep the bike short and playful, but much more comfortable while in the saddle. Well played, sirs.






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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbikekid View Post
    What size of bandit did you get and how tall are you? I don't have any place to test ride one so I am currious as to what size I should be on.
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    The frame is a large. I'm just about 6 feet tall. It feels perfect for me. My previous Transition frame was a medium. Most of the key numbers on the Bandit matched the Medium V1 Covert, so I went with it. I'll let you know how it feels on singletrack tomorrow.

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    Love the orange. I'll likely be picking up a frame here shortly, and I've gotten everything figured out but the headset. I'll be running a Marzocchi 44 RC3 TI with the tapered steerer tube. I'm thinking I'll want the external lower cup with a low stack upper, but the specs seem to get a bit confusing. Are these the correct parts?

    Cane Creek 40 Series Traditional Bottom > Components > Headsets and Spacers > Headsets | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Cane Creek 40 1 1/8" ZS Upper Headset > Components > Headsets and Spacers > Headsets | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Thanks!

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    Correct top but you'll need a 56mm lower, which I believe is only available in a ZS.

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    Gotcha. Thanks!

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    Looking at getting a Bandit. I am 6'3" and prefer a short stem. The 2013's only go up to large now. Sould I be looking for a used XL or go large? TR has close out XL frames on their website but they have 135 dropouts and I am concerned about rear end stiffness.

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    I can't comment on L or XL sizing, but I think the rear end stiffness is pretty good with a 135mm bolt-on axle/hub. I'm currently using a King rear with Fun Bolts, but regular bolt-on axles have worked for me as well.

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    Maybe I will try the bolt on axel route on the XL, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideut View Post
    Maybe I will try the bolt on axel route on the XL, thanks.
    For sure. I've got a King hub with the 135x10 thru axle and a Hadley bolt holding it together and it feels plenty stiff.

    6'3" on a large might end up having to run a longer stem than you'd like. I've got a large myself, but I'm only 5'11" and when my 6'2" long-limbed buddy pedaled around on it he said he felt cramped fwiw.

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    Somewhat low budget build, most parts moved from my previous HT.

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    Size M (I'm 178cm and it fits great)
    Suntour Epicon 140mm, ZTR Flow, Sunline V-One bar and stem, XT shifters and derailleurs, SLX cranks and cassette 3x10, Deore brakes, 180/165mm rotors, Superstar Switch Evo hubs.
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    This is my Bandit, and it works brilliantly on the natural trails here in Scotland.

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    Handful of rides so far. Absolutely loving this thing. Was riding a v2 covert but this bike is way more appropriate for the type of riding I do. Pedals like a dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevkor View Post
    Handful of rides so far. Absolutely loving this thing. Was riding a v2 covert but this bike is way more appropriate for the type of riding I do. Pedals like a dream.
    I tend to agree with you. Where are you riding? I'm in the Reno, NV area, and the Bandit is a great fit. It's noticeably lighter than a 6" frame, and you experience the trail a lot more. Felt great on the little local jump line, and looks awesome in front of the mountains. I'm stoked on my new frame, too.

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    Only fault i can find so far is that i clip my pedals quite often when climbing, so need to firm up the rear shock.
    Top tube comes up a little short, and its no sprinter uphill, but it pays you back on the descents.



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    After a lot of kms on my Bandit 26 I need help. I still get a lot of pedal bob and despite coming from an XC background, strike my pedals on rocks/roots/etc on technical climbs. I'm running an RP23 with "more than recommended" pressure for my weight and as a result RARELY get full travel out of it (even on Whistler trails).

    Is this just part of owning such a fun, lively trail bike? Is it the limitations of the RP23 and Propedal? Any help would be great.

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    If you're after more of an XC feel, perhaps the Fox air volume spacer kit would help out. The kit is maybe 20 bucks, and it comes with 3 spacers you can try out to fine tune the ride. Are you after now of a locked out feel when the propedal is engaged? I don't remember what the stock settingis, but if you ever send it in to Fox or Push or Mojo for a rebuild you could have them re valve it.

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    I have tried the "medium" air volume reducer in the shock and quite frankly is does not help much at all. Small bump sensitivity is gone, and it never approaches full travel.
    Best thing is to ride it in the high position pro pedal setting on everything apart from descents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4 View Post
    After a lot of kms on my Bandit 26 I need help. I still get a lot of pedal bob and despite coming from an XC background, strike my pedals on rocks/roots/etc on technical climbs. I'm running an RP23 with "more than recommended" pressure for my weight and as a result RARELY get full travel out of it (even on Whistler trails).

    Is this just part of owning such a fun, lively trail bike? Is it the limitations of the RP23 and Propedal? Any help would be great.
    I agree with you. There is definitely a fair amount of pedal bob on this bike. The BB is also extremely low, and I was hitting my pedals like crazy.

    I really don't have an answer for you regarding the pedal bob. Granted, I don't have the stock shock, but I just set the sag appropriately and live with the bob. It's my personal feeling that an active suspension on technical trails is probably saving enough energy to make the pedal bob a non-issue. It keeps the wheel tracking, so you don't have to be overly active about weighting the bike.

    One thing that seems to be helping me with the pedal strikes is a new fork. I had a Fox Vanilla 32 on there, and the axle to crown was pretty short. My bottom bracket height was right around 13", which felt super, super low once the bike was sagged. I was actually having strikes on cut banks while pedaling. I just put a 160mm X Fusion Slant on there, and the bike feels totally different. I didn't have a single pedal strike on my maiden ride, which has some pretty technical sections. Now that I'm trained to ratchet through anything remotely close to a pedal strike, I think the added BB height will eliminate the problem for me. Obviously this isn't a solution for everyone, since it's pretty costly. My fork was creaking pretty badly, so it was time for an upgrade.


    I have a question for you, though. Seems like I have the same pedal and shoe combo as you. Have you been getting any squeaking out of the pedals? I'm fairly certain that I'm getting some dust (live in Nevada) into the dust cap, and it's making it stick to the o-ring/spindle. The spinning then makes this annoying chirp of the rubber from my shoes on metal. Have you had anything like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4 View Post
    After a lot of kms on my Bandit 26 I need help. I still get a lot of pedal bob and despite coming from an XC background, strike my pedals on rocks/roots/etc on technical climbs. I'm running an RP23 with "more than recommended" pressure for my weight and as a result RARELY get full travel out of it (even on Whistler trails).

    Is this just part of owning such a fun, lively trail bike? Is it the limitations of the RP23 and Propedal? Any help would be great.
    Having ridden the bike in Squampton, Whistler and N Van i can speak to this. It bobs for sure but this requires adaptation on one's part by timing the pedal stroke and ratcheting to get over obstacles. Not a skill usually learned in XC. I can say that the bike dealt with the Yummy Nimby climb and the No Flow Zone in Emerald just fine as long as you did this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitale232 View Post
    I have a question for you, though. Seems like I have the same pedal and shoe combo as you. Have you been getting any squeaking out of the pedals? I'm fairly certain that I'm getting some dust (live in Nevada) into the dust cap, and it's making it stick to the o-ring/spindle. The spinning then makes this annoying chirp of the rubber from my shoes on metal. Have you had anything like this?
    No squeaking for me sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Having ridden the bike in Squampton, Whistler and N Van i can speak to this. It bobs for sure but this requires adaptation on one's part by timing the pedal stroke and ratcheting to get over obstacles. Not a skill usually learned in XC. I can say that the bike dealt with the Yummy Nimby climb and the No Flow Zone in Emerald just fine as long as you did this.
    Been riding XC for a long time and had a heap of bikes over the years - well aware of timing pedal strokes, regardless of skill though it seems like something that can definitely be improved upon. I guess what I am getting at is that it has a lot more to do with the rear shock than anything else.

    Worth noting that a friend has actually switched to 170mm cranks from 175mm on his after experiencing the same thing.

    While rider skill can always solve a problem, it seems that the MTB industry is in the situation of providing technical solutions to make biking more enjoyable. If the solution to the fairly common pedal bob problem is to be better on the bike, surely there is room for a technical solution that allows you to go on full day epics and still get over obstacles at the end of the day when you are physically destroyed.

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    Remember it is a faux bar or single pivot design which is more or less renowned for bobbing.

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    Yeah, definitely aware of that too. Seems that the Fox air volume spacer kit might be worth having a play with, just don't want to lose the plushness too. That said I'm well aware that there's always a sacrifice with suspension.

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    I just run the large volume shock in the position one or two with the compression lever flicked on, and time my pedal strokes to get over roots and rises.
    The BB height is not especially low compared with similar bikes, but i run big Hans Damfs to give me a little extra height.
    If they made the BB higher, it wouldn't descend as well.
    Swings and roundabouts i suppose.

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    Excited about my build - finally getting too it. Gotta post pics to reduce the pre-build jitters.

    Anybody want to share experiences on Tre bandit with a 160vs140 36 and/or Lyrik? Maybe I'll try 160 first - but I got a couple of 10mm spacers to reduce with if in between is needed...

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    I initially built mine with a sektor 150 and then swapped in a solo air lyrik set at 150. I personally think 160 is a bit much for the bike. I tried it at 160 with a standard headset and did not like it as much. I recently got a good deal on a revelation 140 and I've been really happy with that setup so far. I ran mine -2.5 deg via angleset cups with a 1.125 steerer with the lyrik and now -1 deg wit the tapered revs.

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    i think the new Pike 150 is a great fork for the bandit. i'm running this on my Bandit29. also matches perfect to the pewter frame

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    New Bandit frame arrived yesterday, so itching to build it up.
    Long live the 26 incher. :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzy View Post
    Anybody want to share experiences on Tre bandit with a 160vs140 36 and/or Lyrik? Maybe I'll try 160 first - but I got a couple of 10mm spacers to reduce with if in between is needed...
    I started with a Fox 32 Vanilla 140 from 2008 when I built up the bike. It felt pretty good, but the bottom bracket was super low. I was hitting pedals off everything, including cut banks.

    Later on this season, I bought an X Fusion Slant 160. The Axle to Crown difference between the two forks is a lot more than just 20 mm. I like the bike with the 160 on there. It definitely feels slack. Really slack. The front tends to take a bit more focus on climbs, but it's very stable while descending. There were a bit of growing pains with the new fork, as the bike seemed to lose a bit of the flickability I had with the short fork. However, I've learned to compensate by flicking with a but more gusto.

    I'm interested to hear how the bike feels with a 150. I sent an email to Transition, and Lars responded saying he finds the 150mm to be the most balanced. Bike is covered under warranty up to a 160. I think when I open up my slant for some service, I may lower it to 150.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadgadget View Post
    New Bandit frame arrived yesterday, so itching to build it up.
    Sweet! How does that yellow look in person? I was really torn between the orange and yellow. I think you'll love the bike. Super fun frame.

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    The lemon has a greeny tinge which you can't pick up in photo's, and it looks great.
    The orange is more like a "burnt matt orange colour which looks kinda dull up close.
    I have built the Bandit up with mainly blue parts, and it looks brilliant.

    This is my third Bandit, and one thing they do is put a great big smile on your face.


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    What happened to the first 2 bandits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marti163 View Post
    What happened to the first 2 bandits?
    Sold the 2011 Q/R one on and bought a 2012 one, but i got that replaced under warranty as the main pivot bearing bore holes became enlarged due to either the bearings being wrongly fitted at assembly, bearing partially seized, so the bearing outer may have been rotating in their bores........the other possible cause would be slack pivot bolts, but this was not the case here, as i always made sure they were tight. Either way.....keep an eye on the main bearings.

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    Is that a Spank Spike Race stem? 50mm?

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    Is that a Spank Spike Race stem? 50mm?
    Yup. Sure is.

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    Yup. Sure is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadgadget View Post
    That's a really good looking bike. Nice job. Fun ride, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitale232 View Post
    That's a really good looking bike. Nice job. Fun ride, isn't it?
    Puts a big grin on your face, unlike some other brands.

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    Looks great!

    Your pics help a lot with perspective on fork setup, thanks for posting them. Got some parts that didn't make it for the weekend, so hopefully I'll be able to get it built by next weekend (so long as theres no snag on the front wheel adapters).
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    Nice.. How are you liking it with the short stem and riser bars?

    I do a fair bit of technical climbing on mine as well as descending so I find that I need to spend a fair bit of time over the front end. I'm still running the supplied 70mm Thomson X4 stem with a 15mm rize Spank Oozy LTD bar. I couldn't imagine having my weight further back! All depends on arm length/torso size I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4 View Post
    Nice.. How are you liking it with the short stem and riser bars?

    I do a fair bit of technical climbing on mine as well as descending so I find that I need to spend a fair bit of time over the front end. I'm still running the supplied 70mm Thomson X4 stem with a 15mm rize Spank Oozy LTD bar. I couldn't imagine having my weight further back! All depends on arm length/torso size I guess.
    I'm replacing the 50mm Spank stem with a 70mm ODI flight control, as my front wheel wandered skywards on very steep climbs on a couple of occasions today.

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    I run 10mm rise bars with a 50mm stem with no spacers on mine and I don't find that the front end wanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marti163 View Post
    I run 10mm rise bars with a 50mm stem with no spacers on mine and I don't find that the front end wanders.
    I'm waiting on a lower Spank EVO 777 bar to replace the 50mm rise one i have at present.
    This should help big time.

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    Saddle position and everyone's individual body would come into it marti163. Fadgadget I think you'll find you will like the "longer" cockpit on the Bandit. I have 720mm bars, very keen for something a little closer to 750mm.. I know the new Oozys are 740mm so I might give them a go instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4 View Post
    Saddle position and everyone's individual body would come into it marti163. Fadgadget I think you'll find you will like the "longer" cockpit on the Bandit. I have 720mm bars, very keen for something a little closer to 750mm.. I know the new Oozys are 740mm so I might give them a go instead.
    Yup. The extra length over the medium is instantly noticable.

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    This looks like a great progression or evolution for my original style Covert - especially if built lighter.


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    Not crazy about the colors but the specs have my attention.

    I wonder what the average weight will be on this bike?
    Let's make like a Bike and get the Huck outta here...

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    So only got partial build done today - headset I bought didnt fit. I purchased a Cane Creek ZS 44/28.6 upper, ZS 56/40 and the bottom cup appears to be to big for the frame.

    Build looks great though.

    Any tips on correct lower hS cup size for ZS with a tapered steereer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzy View Post
    So only got partial build done today - headset I bought didnt fit. I purchased a Cane Creek ZS 44/28.6 upper, ZS 56/40 and the bottom cup appears to be to big for the frame.

    Build looks great though.

    Any tips on correct lower hS cup size for ZS with a tapered steereer?
    If its a last years model then Hope do a pick n mix 49/40 which fits outside the head tube. It can also take a reducer for 1/8th forks.

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