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    Quote Originally Posted by GaelP View Post
    What a perfect bike. Gravity dropper, Flow rims, beautiful. Size is L ? Weight ? Do you reach with one rear shock setting to climb and go down well ?

    Hey thx, size is XL. It weighed 33.25lbs on my scale with heavy Maxxis tires, 2.5 DHF and a 2.3 DHR2. I could easily shave a pound with some more trail oriented tires but these things have the best traction and are nice in the snow.

    The rear shock has 3 diff settings-climb/trail/descend, the fork also has 3 settings but not labeled like that. Basically it's firm/medium/soft for both ends, and yeah no remote for that stuff so you just reach down no biggie

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    with heavy Maxxis tires, 2.5 DHF and a 2.3 DHR2. I could easily shave a pound with some more trail oriented tires but these things have the best traction and are nice in the snow.
    Protos? These haven't landed on shelves yet have they? They're the Duke Nukem of 29er tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Protos? These haven't landed on shelves yet have they? They're the Duke Nukem of 29er tires.
    Yes they are, both are single ply w/exo sidewall and tubeless ready. Hopefully the prod. versions are the same cause these are really nice, if you don't mind the weight- DHF is 1000g's, DHR2 right under 900g's.

    I will probably run some lighter rubber for certain rides but the DHF is so nice traction wise that it might be worth the weight penalty.

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    I don't mind the weight- I see the Hans Dampf as a really nice rugged XC tire... I need something that says "Hulk will smash!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I don't mind the weight- I see the Hans Dampf as a really nice rugged XC tire... I need something that says "Hulk will smash!"
    How much do the HD's weigh? I haven't tried those yet, they are pricey. I would HIGHLY recommend buying a DHF when it comes out, Maxxis needs to get going on that.

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    My TrailStars weighed 888g and 863g, so a burly ~1,000g tire sounds fine. You can get them for less than MSRP now, at least. I think my last pair was $75/each. They really area fantastic all-rounder, but I'd like sidewalls more protective than SnakeSkin.

    It'll come down to what lands first- the Minions or the Black Chili Trail Kings. I'm sure I'll try both eventually, but the order will be determined by availability.
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    Seems to me that Transition doesn't really care about the Covert 29.Not alot of press or hype on this bike. Usually they put out a video or something when they put out a new bike.
    Am I wrong?

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    Hi guys.

    I've tried a Covert 29" 2 a few days ago. I was a bit disappointed by the climb abilities of the bike. I'm 180 lbs, psi on fork was 90 and on the shock 150. What do you think about these settings ? I've tried also with 110/170 but going downhill the bike was too nervous for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    My TrailStars weighed 888g and 863g, so a burly ~1,000g tire sounds fine. You can get them for less than MSRP now, at least. I think my last pair was $75/each. They really area fantastic all-rounder, but I'd like sidewalls more protective than SnakeSkin.

    It'll come down to what lands first- the Minions or the Black Chili Trail Kings. I'm sure I'll try both eventually, but the order will be determined by availability.
    All of the three MTB wheel diameter HD's were supposed be available in a stouter Super Gravity casing version for 2013. Now I'm hearing that only 26 & 27.5 will feature the SG casing. Dang, more waiting for a tough 29er tire.
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    I heard a rumor they made some 29er SG HD samples, but only committed to 26 and 27.5 thus far. That would pretty much be my perfect all-rounder - we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp View Post
    Seems to me that Transition doesn't really care about the Covert 29.Not alot of press or hype on this bike. Usually they put out a video or something when they put out a new bike.
    Am I wrong?
    it is a bit sad, i want to know more about the bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel RW View Post
    it is a bit sad, i want to know more about the bike
    I'm riding Douglas at 4.30 Joel if you want to see how one rides. Let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaelP View Post
    Hi guys.

    I've tried a Covert 29" 2 a few days ago. I was a bit disappointed by the climb abilities of the bike. I'm 180 lbs, psi on fork was 90 and on the shock 150. What do you think about these settings ? I've tried also with 110/170 but going downhill the bike was too nervous for me.
    I'm 191 pounds and run 170 in the shock and 80 in the fork and it made the bike so much better than the 160/70 i started off with.

    I do all my climbing in trail mode on the shock and fork and in number 2 on the little black dial. If I'm doing smooth dirt I just leave the fork in trail and put the rear shock in climb mode and I've got no problems doing 30 minute climbs on it. Like any new bike you just have to spend some time getting to know it.

    I got it as my play/AM bike and its perfect for that and will do a few DH races on it aswell.

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    Ricky bobby you have to come ride with us again very soon!!! I want to check out that bike and see if you really did survive that 20ft fall off that cliff last time we rode.

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    I've done a few rides on mine and it's freakin home run in my book. The compact geo and short wheelbase makes it very playful for a long travel 29er, and it climbs nicely given the intended use.

    I'm at 210 and setup the susp with 130psi in the Rev fork and 180 on the shock, the susp feels great. The 3 settings for compression front/rear are a nice feature, with both ends fully open the bike is super plush, too plush almost. I liked the middle settings for some jumps and drops I tried cause I was getting a tad bit of fork dive and using all the travel even tho is was smaller stuff. On a rock garden descent I opened up both ends and it felt like butter, just stayed glued to the trail. Also, the controls on this bike are soooo nice, went with an XO/X9 drivetrain and the new gripshift, XT brakes.

    Arin- will get with you guys soon, you and Jay can both check it out, it's a sweet ride. Yeah I survived that stupid crash and the shoulder if fine.
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    OK...over two and a half months after I placed my preorder, I have a Covert 29 built and ready to roll. I should get two rides in this weekend so I will add initial impressions next week.

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    Me - 6'3" 225 lb. Just came from a Yeti ASR 7
    Bike - Size XL. Frame wt. 7.95 lb (HS cups pressed in, axle nut installed (no axle), seatpost collar installed). BB height 13.75". Build wt. 33.2 lb (lots of Stans). Right where my last 3 trail bikes have been.
    Build - Transition kit # 2. Changes: Reverb, Easton Havoc 35 bar and stem, Shimano rear axle, LM29 wheels (King-Flow EX), 24/36 front rings, XT cassette, Phenom saddle, 200mm front rotor.
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    Dude that looks killer, just got back from a ride on mine and saw your post, enjoy your wkd!

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    Super nice build, Bro! Just got back from a ride on mine, too

    Still dealing with a floaty front-end, though. You guys think the extra 10mm of fork is changing the geometry that much? Considering a longer stem and/or an angleset to slacken it back out a bit.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    Super nice build, Bro! Just got back from a ride on mine, too

    Still dealing with a floaty front-end, though. You guys think the extra 10mm of fork is changing the geometry that much? Considering a longer stem and/or an angleset to slacken it back out a bit.

    Thoughts?
    I wouldn't think the front travel would be the issue. It sounds like you just need a bit more weight on the front end. A bit longer stem or dropping your current stem would be a place to start. Outside of that, moving the fork back to 140mm would also help but that's more involved. I'm very particular on my bike setup so I understand wanting to get it just right!

    When does it get "floaty"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    I wouldn't think the front travel would be the issue. It sounds like you just need a bit more weight on the front end. A bit longer stem or dropping your current stem would be a place to start. Outside of that, moving the fork back to 140mm would also help but that's more involved. I'm very particular on my bike setup so I understand wanting to get it just right!

    When does it get "floaty"?
    I agree that I need to get more weight to the front. Longer stem will probably be the first step. It gets floaty on steeps. Particularly on switchbacks where its not only steep but I'm putting a lot of power in after the turn. No problems on the same trails with the Rumblefish.

    Running a 60mm stem now, you think a 90 would do the trick?
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    Steeps - steep up? Or steep down? I'd say that assuming your cockpit is comfortable, give yourself a few more rides, and really focus on Lee McCormack's mantra of "heavy feet; light hands" and make sure you're keeping your weight centered and moving around as required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    OK...over two and a half months after I placed my preorder, I have a Covert 29 built and ready to roll. I should get two rides in this weekend so I will add initial impressions next week.
    Really nice looking build!
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    drool.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    I agree that I need to get more weight to the front. Longer stem will probably be the first step. It gets floaty on steeps. Particularly on switchbacks where its not only steep but I'm putting a lot of power in after the turn. No problems on the same trails with the Rumblefish.

    Running a 60mm stem now, you think a 90 would do the trick?
    I really like mine with the 140 Rev, cant imagine wanting more except for pure downhill days or at a bike park. I'm running a 90 stem and it feels perfect, that would no doubt help but lowering the fork might be a good idea too, bike has a pretty slack HA at 140.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    I really like mine with the 140 Rev, cant imagine wanting more except for pure downhill days or at a bike park. I'm running a 90 stem and it feels perfect, that would no doubt help but lowering the fork might be a good idea too, bike has a pretty slack HA at 140.
    I think a 90mm stem is the best place to start. If that doesn't help I'll consider knocking the travel back down, though I wanted to avoid that hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    I think a 90mm stem is the best place to start. If that doesn't help I'll consider knocking the travel back down, though I wanted to avoid that hassle.
    I'd suggest that you consider going to wider bars to get a bit more weight forward, if at all possible. That or drop the height of the stem. These bikes were not really intended to be ridden with a long stem.
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    First ride is in the books. Thoughts:

    1) Top tube felt fine but I have gravitated toward a more compact and upright position. I would like to try a 70mm stem but at the moment the only stem for the 35mm bar is Easton's 50mm model.

    2) Maneuverability was good. Stiffness was fine. Pedal and brake feedback wasn't noticed. The bike really disappeared under me...that's a very good thing. With the CTD shock the bike is firm in the initial travel and plush after that. I felt pedaling response was good and mashing the pedals moves the bike forward rather than compressing the suspension. The bike is incredible on drops. It uses travel generously and feels like landing on a pillow.

    3) I still have some work to do on the suspension. Both the fork and shock seem to move through their travel fairly easily. I weigh 230-235 lb with gear and I have the shock at 205 psi which is only 20% sag. If I run over 30% sag it bottoms when I sneeze. Ran in the Trail setting on max firmness. Again, the initial travel is firm but not annoying even at this sag level. I am using RWS needle bearings at both ends so there is no external stiction. Once past that initial firmness you get really smooth travel that eats up anything in your path. I have the fork set at 115 psi. Also ran in Trail setting on max firmness. I was using all travel on the fork and shock. Never felt a "bottom" on the shock...felt it once on the fork. I suspect that at my weight I may need to just ship the bits off to Push which usually does the trick. I will run as-is and play with pressure and such to see how things go.

    4) The firmness in the top of the travel makes it easy to make technical power moves. It really gives you something to "push" against to manual and such. I liken it to Yeti's ASR design in that it is firm and then plush once past that first bit...I really like this feature. That firmness probably explains why the pedaling is nicely responsive and doesn't wallow.

    Other than having less travel it felt right at home coming from the ASR 7 which is exactly what I was looking for.

    I wish the fork was 36mm with a 20mm axle. The current offering is merely adequate.

    That's it for now. Should get more time in tomorrow.

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    Wouldn't it be nice if manufacturers actually listened and brought a 36 fork to market for 29ers?!?

    I'd throw a 160 w/coil spring and a DHX on my 'Box and get to rippin.

    First ride report sounds great. Glad you dig the ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico View Post
    These bikes were not really intended to be ridden with a long stem.
    Meh, more hype, my 90 feels just right. Might swap to a shorter stem for shuttle days or lift assist, but for trail riding it's fine.

    titusquasi- I agree it pedals nicely but still uses all the travel on drops or jumps. The trail setting on the shock, and the middle setting on the Rev fork, are on the firm side. Open both ends up and it's uber plush and kinda blows thru the travel.

    Does the 1/2/3 dial on the shock affect the damping in all three modes or just the climb mode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Meh, more hype, my 90 feels just right. Might swap to a shorter stem for shuttle days or lift assist, but for trail riding it's fine.

    titusquasi- I agree it pedals nicely but still uses all the travel on drops or jumps. The trail setting on the shock, and the middle setting on the Rev fork, are on the firm side. Open both ends up and it's uber plush and kinda blows thru the travel.

    Does the 1/2/3 dial on the shock affect the damping in all three modes or just the climb mode?
    If you're talking about the black dial on the ctd lever its to adjust trail mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Meh, more hype, my 90 feels just right. Might swap to a shorter stem for shuttle days or lift assist, but for trail riding it's fine.

    titusquasi- I agree it pedals nicely but still uses all the travel on drops or jumps. The trail setting on the shock, and the middle setting on the Rev fork, are on the firm side. Open both ends up and it's uber plush and kinda blows thru the travel.

    Does the 1/2/3 dial on the shock affect the damping in all three modes or just the climb mode?
    So far, one of my favorite attributes is how it makes drops seem smaller than I first anticipated. I keep finding myself looking back saying "that was actually pretty easy." I'm going to get in over my head looking for a bigger rush if I don't keep things in check. My skills are best described as "wheels on the ground" but this bike is making air time quite easy and enjoyable.

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    Question, when your setting sag, do you have your fork/shock in the trail mode or fully open? I've always set sag with compression settings how I would ride but I'm getting less sag with the fork/shock in the middle settings compared to fully open.

    I'm trying for 25% sag on the shock, anymore and it uses the travel too easily it seems

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    I've always set sag in full open, no compression. Not sure if that's the correct method but it seems to feel right.

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    So I've done a handful of rides and have used the initial settings till the susp broke in some. I felt like the fork was a tad firm and I was using the rear travel too easily so I made some adj's to the settings. Thx for the input above btw

    I'm 210 w/o gear and wanted 25% sag for the shock and 20% for the fork. I opened up the compression on both ends to set the sag this time. I bumped the rear psi up to 200 and got the right sag w/gear on, gonna keep the trail adjust dial at 2 for now. On the Rev. fork, I lowered the psi to 125 and changed the low speed comp setting, had it too high so probably why it was feeling firm.

    Will see how it feels on the trail, bet it's dialed now.

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    I'm 186-ish all geared up with a full day pack. I used the iRD app Fox has available for Apple devices.

    Much to my surprise, it had me at 204psi! I set it up as such and haven't changed it since; I'm very happy with the performance. I told myself, after going through the process, that I would make changes as I saw fit.

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    Put a 90mm stem on and put a little more air in the shock. Rode the same loop and man, what a difference! Better balance on the climbs with the same great descending. Now we're talking!
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    We need some ride pics on this thread, I've been solo so no action shots. My ride yesterday kicked butt tho, the bike is starting to disappear beneath me.

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    Ok I'm a struggler! Just got my Covert built and can't post the pic. But have been reading the posts on suspension set up. Thanks for posting your work, it's definitely helping with setup. Wish Fox had the application for android.
    Sorry new guy can't post pics. however the build is posted on my profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Wish Fox had the application for android.
    I thought that they already did.

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    I called Fox yesterday and was told that it was not out yet. If someone knows where a beta version or anything I would love to have a look at it. Do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Ok I'm a struggler! Just got my Covert built and can't post the pic. But have been reading the posts on suspension set up. Thanks for posting your work, it's definitely helping with setup. Wish Fox had the application for android.
    Sorry new guy can't post pics. however the build is posted on my profile.
    Yep...good to see where each person weighs and where they have shock settings. I am currently 225 lb nekid (ride at 230-235 lb) and run the shock and fork at 200 and 110 respectively. Both ends in Trail mode on high compression. I am going to try running 205 and 115 with the Trail compression at low or medium.

    I probably need to reassess sag now that I've done some riding and see if the suspension has "broken in" thus affecting the sag. I doubt it changed much with the Kashima coating ensuring smooth operation out of the box.

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    When I was doing a search for setting up the rear susp I found a thread on last years Bandit 29, Transition recommends 25% sag on that bike, or about your body weight in psi in the shock. I imagine this bike is similar, maybe a little less than body weight.

    The middle trail settings are nice for smoother sections but kinda firm in the chunky stuff, still need to play with the trail adj dial and the LS comp on the fork to get it feeling just right. Nice to have tho and be able to adj easily depending on the trail your riding.

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    OK. Here's a bit more work on setting the suspension.

    Me: 6'3". 225lb birthday suit. XL Covert 29 w/ CTD shock and 34 fork. 800mm bar w/ 50mm stem and I run my saddle in KOPS position. Top of my grips are about 3/4" higher than top of the saddle.

    As it turns out, I weigh more in riding gear than I was guessing...235-240lb depending on how much water in the Camelbak. I also remeasured sag and I was off compared to my previous settings.

    So...at that ride weight, 210psi in the rear shock gave me 9/16" or 25% sag. Put another way, the air pressure is around 88-89% of my ride weight. Yet another way is to say it is 25-30lb under my ride weight. I would think that the % of a riders weight would be more accurate across a range of riders than just going a certain number below your ride weight.

    205psi was about 27% sag and 200psi was around 30% sag. Today I ran the fork and shock in Trail position in the middle compression setting. Tomorrow I will try the same pressures with the low compression setting.

    I ran the fork at 115psi or roughly 48-49% of my ride weight. I never bother to set my fork according to a sag %. I always try to match the "feel" to the rear suspension while making sure I use full travel on the biggest hits. At the settings today the front and rear felt very similar.

    Additionally, no matter where I was in the 25-30% sag range on the rear shock, I use full travel on bigger hits but have never felt a "bottom". My perception is that I will then fine tune that pressure setting based on how I want the bike to ride. At 30% the rear was a bit lower, softer and tracked the ground on small chatter a bit better. But, the pedal feel wasn't as "snappy"...it was muted a bit. It didn't feel bad, it just wasn't as "sharp". At 25% the feel is a bit "livelier". The bike sits up a bit more and responds to weight shifts with a firmer feel. The pedaling response is a bit more "solid" and feels very nice sprinting out of a corner or grunting up a steep climb. But, you give up a bit of compliance on smaller chatter. I'm not sure if these words are helping, I'm just trying to find adjectives to help convey a subjective observation.

    It seems like I read somewhere from one of the Transition guys that the Covert 29 is designed to handle the bigger stuff with composure at a possible slight expense to smaller chatter, especially with an air shock. Is this correct? Anywhoo...I would agree with this and, in my opinion, this is a good thing.

    Like I said before, the bike feels a lot like my old ASR 7 in that it is "firm" off the top and then drops into a nice composed stroke on medium to large stuff. Firm does not mean harsh...think "sporty". I really like the feel at 25% sag. There's something to "push against" for fast weight shifts, the bike does not pull into its travel under hard efforts (like some of my past Horst Link bikes), it stays solid under power.

    On the geometry front...I am sold on Transitions approach. My position is exagerated a bit with the short stem and wide bars so my setup is "upright" and "compact"...but not to the point that I am uncomfortable. My position is such that seated pedaling, standing sprinting, uphill efforts in and out of the seat, and corner carving are all done in the same small space. I used to have bikes with long top tubes and I felt like a monkey moving all over the place to accomplish this stuff. Now it is a slight weight shift here or there...so simple and enjoyable.

    Additionally, the more I ride, the more I enjoy the handling. I am still getting used to how easily the bike moves side to side while carving turns...no perceived big wheel lag, just pop, pop, pop through the "S"-turns. Wheelies, manuals and drops are easy...the front comes up very nicely. The bike climbs steep pitches well. The suspension doesn't sag excessively into its travel and you don't have to shift your weight forward much at all to keep the front down and the rear hooked up. Like I said, it's all done from the same small space hovering right around your saddle.

    That's more than enough for now. I realize it's hard to be objective with NBS (New Bike Syndrome) so take what I say with a grain of salt. The bottom line for me is that I my transition from the ASR 7 has been easy and quite enjoyable!
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    Your bike just looks right, can't even tell it has big wheels

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    Ok I've gotten to ride a few times now. And since we have lots of snow on the trails still I'm riding the paved hills however I'm using the time and rides to get the saddle positioned just so and the cockpit arranged as it seems to work differently than my last shimano setup.
    This bike is no slouch in the climbing department. I had some reservations about the climbing as there is so little out about the climbing ability of the bike. The 74 degree seat tube feels like with some adjustment in the saddle you are right in the sweet spot for hammering away and a longer climb. I figured since I liked the rest of the bike I'd be sacrificing in this department, however that is not the case. Its a goat and no you don't have to climb in granny gear all the time I'm running on the big ring up front and three big gears in the back as I'm not super strong climber. This bike could easily be ridden everywhere as a 1x10 by anyone. Pick your front gear wisely or twice but I feel confident in that statement as the bike climbs that well. If you considering getting one and are thinking "how does it climb?" Go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Ok I've gotten to ride a few times now. And since we have lots of snow on the trails still I'm riding the paved hills however I'm using the time and rides to get the saddle positioned just so and the cockpit arranged as it seems to work differently than my last shimano setup.
    This bike is no slouch in the climbing department. I had some reservations about the climbing as there is so little out about the climbing ability of the bike. The 74 degree seat tube feels like with some adjustment in the saddle you are right in the sweet spot for hammering away and a longer climb. I figured since I liked the rest of the bike I'd be sacrificing in this department, however that is not the case. Its a goat and no you don't have to climb in granny gear all the time I'm running on the big ring up front and three big gears in the back as I'm not super strong climber. This bike could easily be ridden everywhere as a 1x10 by anyone. Pick your front gear wisely or twice but I feel confident in that statement as the bike climbs that well. If you considering getting one and are thinking "how does it climb?" Go for it!
    I agree on the climbing assessment. I have been very happy with the bike's response whether spinning or stomping out of the saddle. What front rings are you using? I am really liking 24/36 front with 11-36 10spd rear.

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    Hi folks,
    is there any rider weight limit on the Bandit 29 or Covert 29 Frame?
    Couldn't find any infos, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.a.l.r.o.g View Post
    Hi folks,
    is there any rider weight limit on the Bandit 29 or Covert 29 Frame?
    Couldn't find any infos, sorry.
    Not that I am aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.a.l.r.o.g View Post
    Hi folks,
    is there any rider weight limit on the Bandit 29 or Covert 29 Frame?
    Couldn't find any infos, sorry.
    I'm not aware of anything, either, though a quick phone call to Transition would be the last word on the subject.

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    Digging the bike more and more! I have settled on the trail mode with the trail adj set at 1, on the Rev fork I like the middle setting with 3 clicks of LS comp. This gives the right balance of platform for pedaling yet still supple in the rocks.

    BTW, the front shifting felt off so I checked out the housing/cable, it was all gunked up already at the BB end. Put a new piece of housing on and used a sealed housing end on that stop, vulnerable spot.

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