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    Quote Originally Posted by GaelP View Post
    What a perfect bike. Gravity dropper, Flow rims, beautiful. Size is L ? Weight ? Do you reach with one rear shock setting to climb and go down well ?

    Hey thx, size is XL. It weighed 33.25lbs on my scale with heavy Maxxis tires, 2.5 DHF and a 2.3 DHR2. I could easily shave a pound with some more trail oriented tires but these things have the best traction and are nice in the snow.

    The rear shock has 3 diff settings-climb/trail/descend, the fork also has 3 settings but not labeled like that. Basically it's firm/medium/soft for both ends, and yeah no remote for that stuff so you just reach down no biggie

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    with heavy Maxxis tires, 2.5 DHF and a 2.3 DHR2. I could easily shave a pound with some more trail oriented tires but these things have the best traction and are nice in the snow.
    Protos? These haven't landed on shelves yet have they? They're the Duke Nukem of 29er tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Protos? These haven't landed on shelves yet have they? They're the Duke Nukem of 29er tires.
    Yes they are, both are single ply w/exo sidewall and tubeless ready. Hopefully the prod. versions are the same cause these are really nice, if you don't mind the weight- DHF is 1000g's, DHR2 right under 900g's.

    I will probably run some lighter rubber for certain rides but the DHF is so nice traction wise that it might be worth the weight penalty.

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    I don't mind the weight- I see the Hans Dampf as a really nice rugged XC tire... I need something that says "Hulk will smash!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I don't mind the weight- I see the Hans Dampf as a really nice rugged XC tire... I need something that says "Hulk will smash!"
    How much do the HD's weigh? I haven't tried those yet, they are pricey. I would HIGHLY recommend buying a DHF when it comes out, Maxxis needs to get going on that.

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    My TrailStars weighed 888g and 863g, so a burly ~1,000g tire sounds fine. You can get them for less than MSRP now, at least. I think my last pair was $75/each. They really area fantastic all-rounder, but I'd like sidewalls more protective than SnakeSkin.

    It'll come down to what lands first- the Minions or the Black Chili Trail Kings. I'm sure I'll try both eventually, but the order will be determined by availability.

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    Seems to me that Transition doesn't really care about the Covert 29.Not alot of press or hype on this bike. Usually they put out a video or something when they put out a new bike.
    Am I wrong?

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    Hi guys.

    I've tried a Covert 29" 2 a few days ago. I was a bit disappointed by the climb abilities of the bike. I'm 180 lbs, psi on fork was 90 and on the shock 150. What do you think about these settings ? I've tried also with 110/170 but going downhill the bike was too nervous for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    My TrailStars weighed 888g and 863g, so a burly ~1,000g tire sounds fine. You can get them for less than MSRP now, at least. I think my last pair was $75/each. They really area fantastic all-rounder, but I'd like sidewalls more protective than SnakeSkin.

    It'll come down to what lands first- the Minions or the Black Chili Trail Kings. I'm sure I'll try both eventually, but the order will be determined by availability.
    All of the three MTB wheel diameter HD's were supposed be available in a stouter Super Gravity casing version for 2013. Now I'm hearing that only 26 & 27.5 will feature the SG casing. Dang, more waiting for a tough 29er tire.
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    I heard a rumor they made some 29er SG HD samples, but only committed to 26 and 27.5 thus far. That would pretty much be my perfect all-rounder - we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp View Post
    Seems to me that Transition doesn't really care about the Covert 29.Not alot of press or hype on this bike. Usually they put out a video or something when they put out a new bike.
    Am I wrong?
    it is a bit sad, i want to know more about the bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel RW View Post
    it is a bit sad, i want to know more about the bike
    I'm riding Douglas at 4.30 Joel if you want to see how one rides. Let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaelP View Post
    Hi guys.

    I've tried a Covert 29" 2 a few days ago. I was a bit disappointed by the climb abilities of the bike. I'm 180 lbs, psi on fork was 90 and on the shock 150. What do you think about these settings ? I've tried also with 110/170 but going downhill the bike was too nervous for me.
    I'm 191 pounds and run 170 in the shock and 80 in the fork and it made the bike so much better than the 160/70 i started off with.

    I do all my climbing in trail mode on the shock and fork and in number 2 on the little black dial. If I'm doing smooth dirt I just leave the fork in trail and put the rear shock in climb mode and I've got no problems doing 30 minute climbs on it. Like any new bike you just have to spend some time getting to know it.

    I got it as my play/AM bike and its perfect for that and will do a few DH races on it aswell.

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    Ricky bobby you have to come ride with us again very soon!!! I want to check out that bike and see if you really did survive that 20ft fall off that cliff last time we rode.

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    I've done a few rides on mine and it's freakin home run in my book. The compact geo and short wheelbase makes it very playful for a long travel 29er, and it climbs nicely given the intended use.

    I'm at 210 and setup the susp with 130psi in the Rev fork and 180 on the shock, the susp feels great. The 3 settings for compression front/rear are a nice feature, with both ends fully open the bike is super plush, too plush almost. I liked the middle settings for some jumps and drops I tried cause I was getting a tad bit of fork dive and using all the travel even tho is was smaller stuff. On a rock garden descent I opened up both ends and it felt like butter, just stayed glued to the trail. Also, the controls on this bike are soooo nice, went with an XO/X9 drivetrain and the new gripshift, XT brakes.

    Arin- will get with you guys soon, you and Jay can both check it out, it's a sweet ride. Yeah I survived that stupid crash and the shoulder if fine.
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    OK...over two and a half months after I placed my preorder, I have a Covert 29 built and ready to roll. I should get two rides in this weekend so I will add initial impressions next week.

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    Me - 6'3" 225 lb. Just came from a Yeti ASR 7
    Bike - Size XL. Frame wt. 7.95 lb (HS cups pressed in, axle nut installed (no axle), seatpost collar installed). BB height 13.75". Build wt. 33.2 lb (lots of Stans). Right where my last 3 trail bikes have been.
    Build - Transition kit # 2. Changes: Reverb, Easton Havoc 35 bar and stem, Shimano rear axle, LM29 wheels (King-Flow EX), 24/36 front rings, XT cassette, Phenom saddle, 200mm front rotor.
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    Dude that looks killer, just got back from a ride on mine and saw your post, enjoy your wkd!

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    Super nice build, Bro! Just got back from a ride on mine, too

    Still dealing with a floaty front-end, though. You guys think the extra 10mm of fork is changing the geometry that much? Considering a longer stem and/or an angleset to slacken it back out a bit.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    Super nice build, Bro! Just got back from a ride on mine, too

    Still dealing with a floaty front-end, though. You guys think the extra 10mm of fork is changing the geometry that much? Considering a longer stem and/or an angleset to slacken it back out a bit.

    Thoughts?
    I wouldn't think the front travel would be the issue. It sounds like you just need a bit more weight on the front end. A bit longer stem or dropping your current stem would be a place to start. Outside of that, moving the fork back to 140mm would also help but that's more involved. I'm very particular on my bike setup so I understand wanting to get it just right!

    When does it get "floaty"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    I wouldn't think the front travel would be the issue. It sounds like you just need a bit more weight on the front end. A bit longer stem or dropping your current stem would be a place to start. Outside of that, moving the fork back to 140mm would also help but that's more involved. I'm very particular on my bike setup so I understand wanting to get it just right!

    When does it get "floaty"?
    I agree that I need to get more weight to the front. Longer stem will probably be the first step. It gets floaty on steeps. Particularly on switchbacks where its not only steep but I'm putting a lot of power in after the turn. No problems on the same trails with the Rumblefish.

    Running a 60mm stem now, you think a 90 would do the trick?
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    Steeps - steep up? Or steep down? I'd say that assuming your cockpit is comfortable, give yourself a few more rides, and really focus on Lee McCormack's mantra of "heavy feet; light hands" and make sure you're keeping your weight centered and moving around as required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    OK...over two and a half months after I placed my preorder, I have a Covert 29 built and ready to roll. I should get two rides in this weekend so I will add initial impressions next week.
    Really nice looking build!

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    drool.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    I agree that I need to get more weight to the front. Longer stem will probably be the first step. It gets floaty on steeps. Particularly on switchbacks where its not only steep but I'm putting a lot of power in after the turn. No problems on the same trails with the Rumblefish.

    Running a 60mm stem now, you think a 90 would do the trick?
    I really like mine with the 140 Rev, cant imagine wanting more except for pure downhill days or at a bike park. I'm running a 90 stem and it feels perfect, that would no doubt help but lowering the fork might be a good idea too, bike has a pretty slack HA at 140.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    I really like mine with the 140 Rev, cant imagine wanting more except for pure downhill days or at a bike park. I'm running a 90 stem and it feels perfect, that would no doubt help but lowering the fork might be a good idea too, bike has a pretty slack HA at 140.
    I think a 90mm stem is the best place to start. If that doesn't help I'll consider knocking the travel back down, though I wanted to avoid that hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    I think a 90mm stem is the best place to start. If that doesn't help I'll consider knocking the travel back down, though I wanted to avoid that hassle.
    I'd suggest that you consider going to wider bars to get a bit more weight forward, if at all possible. That or drop the height of the stem. These bikes were not really intended to be ridden with a long stem.
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    First ride is in the books. Thoughts:

    1) Top tube felt fine but I have gravitated toward a more compact and upright position. I would like to try a 70mm stem but at the moment the only stem for the 35mm bar is Easton's 50mm model.

    2) Maneuverability was good. Stiffness was fine. Pedal and brake feedback wasn't noticed. The bike really disappeared under me...that's a very good thing. With the CTD shock the bike is firm in the initial travel and plush after that. I felt pedaling response was good and mashing the pedals moves the bike forward rather than compressing the suspension. The bike is incredible on drops. It uses travel generously and feels like landing on a pillow.

    3) I still have some work to do on the suspension. Both the fork and shock seem to move through their travel fairly easily. I weigh 230-235 lb with gear and I have the shock at 205 psi which is only 20% sag. If I run over 30% sag it bottoms when I sneeze. Ran in the Trail setting on max firmness. Again, the initial travel is firm but not annoying even at this sag level. I am using RWS needle bearings at both ends so there is no external stiction. Once past that initial firmness you get really smooth travel that eats up anything in your path. I have the fork set at 115 psi. Also ran in Trail setting on max firmness. I was using all travel on the fork and shock. Never felt a "bottom" on the shock...felt it once on the fork. I suspect that at my weight I may need to just ship the bits off to Push which usually does the trick. I will run as-is and play with pressure and such to see how things go.

    4) The firmness in the top of the travel makes it easy to make technical power moves. It really gives you something to "push" against to manual and such. I liken it to Yeti's ASR design in that it is firm and then plush once past that first bit...I really like this feature. That firmness probably explains why the pedaling is nicely responsive and doesn't wallow.

    Other than having less travel it felt right at home coming from the ASR 7 which is exactly what I was looking for.

    I wish the fork was 36mm with a 20mm axle. The current offering is merely adequate.

    That's it for now. Should get more time in tomorrow.

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    Wouldn't it be nice if manufacturers actually listened and brought a 36 fork to market for 29ers?!?

    I'd throw a 160 w/coil spring and a DHX on my 'Box and get to rippin.

    First ride report sounds great. Glad you dig the ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico View Post
    These bikes were not really intended to be ridden with a long stem.
    Meh, more hype, my 90 feels just right. Might swap to a shorter stem for shuttle days or lift assist, but for trail riding it's fine.

    titusquasi- I agree it pedals nicely but still uses all the travel on drops or jumps. The trail setting on the shock, and the middle setting on the Rev fork, are on the firm side. Open both ends up and it's uber plush and kinda blows thru the travel.

    Does the 1/2/3 dial on the shock affect the damping in all three modes or just the climb mode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Meh, more hype, my 90 feels just right. Might swap to a shorter stem for shuttle days or lift assist, but for trail riding it's fine.

    titusquasi- I agree it pedals nicely but still uses all the travel on drops or jumps. The trail setting on the shock, and the middle setting on the Rev fork, are on the firm side. Open both ends up and it's uber plush and kinda blows thru the travel.

    Does the 1/2/3 dial on the shock affect the damping in all three modes or just the climb mode?
    If you're talking about the black dial on the ctd lever its to adjust trail mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Meh, more hype, my 90 feels just right. Might swap to a shorter stem for shuttle days or lift assist, but for trail riding it's fine.

    titusquasi- I agree it pedals nicely but still uses all the travel on drops or jumps. The trail setting on the shock, and the middle setting on the Rev fork, are on the firm side. Open both ends up and it's uber plush and kinda blows thru the travel.

    Does the 1/2/3 dial on the shock affect the damping in all three modes or just the climb mode?
    So far, one of my favorite attributes is how it makes drops seem smaller than I first anticipated. I keep finding myself looking back saying "that was actually pretty easy." I'm going to get in over my head looking for a bigger rush if I don't keep things in check. My skills are best described as "wheels on the ground" but this bike is making air time quite easy and enjoyable.

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    Question, when your setting sag, do you have your fork/shock in the trail mode or fully open? I've always set sag with compression settings how I would ride but I'm getting less sag with the fork/shock in the middle settings compared to fully open.

    I'm trying for 25% sag on the shock, anymore and it uses the travel too easily it seems

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    I've always set sag in full open, no compression. Not sure if that's the correct method but it seems to feel right.

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    So I've done a handful of rides and have used the initial settings till the susp broke in some. I felt like the fork was a tad firm and I was using the rear travel too easily so I made some adj's to the settings. Thx for the input above btw

    I'm 210 w/o gear and wanted 25% sag for the shock and 20% for the fork. I opened up the compression on both ends to set the sag this time. I bumped the rear psi up to 200 and got the right sag w/gear on, gonna keep the trail adjust dial at 2 for now. On the Rev. fork, I lowered the psi to 125 and changed the low speed comp setting, had it too high so probably why it was feeling firm.

    Will see how it feels on the trail, bet it's dialed now.

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    I'm 186-ish all geared up with a full day pack. I used the iRD app Fox has available for Apple devices.

    Much to my surprise, it had me at 204psi! I set it up as such and haven't changed it since; I'm very happy with the performance. I told myself, after going through the process, that I would make changes as I saw fit.

    When the thought of how a component should be performing is absent from your mind when riding, then you know you've got it right!

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    Put a 90mm stem on and put a little more air in the shock. Rode the same loop and man, what a difference! Better balance on the climbs with the same great descending. Now we're talking!
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    We need some ride pics on this thread, I've been solo so no action shots. My ride yesterday kicked butt tho, the bike is starting to disappear beneath me.

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    Ok I'm a struggler! Just got my Covert built and can't post the pic. But have been reading the posts on suspension set up. Thanks for posting your work, it's definitely helping with setup. Wish Fox had the application for android.
    Sorry new guy can't post pics. however the build is posted on my profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Wish Fox had the application for android.
    I thought that they already did.

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    I called Fox yesterday and was told that it was not out yet. If someone knows where a beta version or anything I would love to have a look at it. Do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Ok I'm a struggler! Just got my Covert built and can't post the pic. But have been reading the posts on suspension set up. Thanks for posting your work, it's definitely helping with setup. Wish Fox had the application for android.
    Sorry new guy can't post pics. however the build is posted on my profile.
    Yep...good to see where each person weighs and where they have shock settings. I am currently 225 lb nekid (ride at 230-235 lb) and run the shock and fork at 200 and 110 respectively. Both ends in Trail mode on high compression. I am going to try running 205 and 115 with the Trail compression at low or medium.

    I probably need to reassess sag now that I've done some riding and see if the suspension has "broken in" thus affecting the sag. I doubt it changed much with the Kashima coating ensuring smooth operation out of the box.

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    When I was doing a search for setting up the rear susp I found a thread on last years Bandit 29, Transition recommends 25% sag on that bike, or about your body weight in psi in the shock. I imagine this bike is similar, maybe a little less than body weight.

    The middle trail settings are nice for smoother sections but kinda firm in the chunky stuff, still need to play with the trail adj dial and the LS comp on the fork to get it feeling just right. Nice to have tho and be able to adj easily depending on the trail your riding.

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    OK. Here's a bit more work on setting the suspension.

    Me: 6'3". 225lb birthday suit. XL Covert 29 w/ CTD shock and 34 fork. 800mm bar w/ 50mm stem and I run my saddle in KOPS position. Top of my grips are about 3/4" higher than top of the saddle.

    As it turns out, I weigh more in riding gear than I was guessing...235-240lb depending on how much water in the Camelbak. I also remeasured sag and I was off compared to my previous settings.

    So...at that ride weight, 210psi in the rear shock gave me 9/16" or 25% sag. Put another way, the air pressure is around 88-89% of my ride weight. Yet another way is to say it is 25-30lb under my ride weight. I would think that the % of a riders weight would be more accurate across a range of riders than just going a certain number below your ride weight.

    205psi was about 27% sag and 200psi was around 30% sag. Today I ran the fork and shock in Trail position in the middle compression setting. Tomorrow I will try the same pressures with the low compression setting.

    I ran the fork at 115psi or roughly 48-49% of my ride weight. I never bother to set my fork according to a sag %. I always try to match the "feel" to the rear suspension while making sure I use full travel on the biggest hits. At the settings today the front and rear felt very similar.

    Additionally, no matter where I was in the 25-30% sag range on the rear shock, I use full travel on bigger hits but have never felt a "bottom". My perception is that I will then fine tune that pressure setting based on how I want the bike to ride. At 30% the rear was a bit lower, softer and tracked the ground on small chatter a bit better. But, the pedal feel wasn't as "snappy"...it was muted a bit. It didn't feel bad, it just wasn't as "sharp". At 25% the feel is a bit "livelier". The bike sits up a bit more and responds to weight shifts with a firmer feel. The pedaling response is a bit more "solid" and feels very nice sprinting out of a corner or grunting up a steep climb. But, you give up a bit of compliance on smaller chatter. I'm not sure if these words are helping, I'm just trying to find adjectives to help convey a subjective observation.

    It seems like I read somewhere from one of the Transition guys that the Covert 29 is designed to handle the bigger stuff with composure at a possible slight expense to smaller chatter, especially with an air shock. Is this correct? Anywhoo...I would agree with this and, in my opinion, this is a good thing.

    Like I said before, the bike feels a lot like my old ASR 7 in that it is "firm" off the top and then drops into a nice composed stroke on medium to large stuff. Firm does not mean harsh...think "sporty". I really like the feel at 25% sag. There's something to "push against" for fast weight shifts, the bike does not pull into its travel under hard efforts (like some of my past Horst Link bikes), it stays solid under power.

    On the geometry front...I am sold on Transitions approach. My position is exagerated a bit with the short stem and wide bars so my setup is "upright" and "compact"...but not to the point that I am uncomfortable. My position is such that seated pedaling, standing sprinting, uphill efforts in and out of the seat, and corner carving are all done in the same small space. I used to have bikes with long top tubes and I felt like a monkey moving all over the place to accomplish this stuff. Now it is a slight weight shift here or there...so simple and enjoyable.

    Additionally, the more I ride, the more I enjoy the handling. I am still getting used to how easily the bike moves side to side while carving turns...no perceived big wheel lag, just pop, pop, pop through the "S"-turns. Wheelies, manuals and drops are easy...the front comes up very nicely. The bike climbs steep pitches well. The suspension doesn't sag excessively into its travel and you don't have to shift your weight forward much at all to keep the front down and the rear hooked up. Like I said, it's all done from the same small space hovering right around your saddle.

    That's more than enough for now. I realize it's hard to be objective with NBS (New Bike Syndrome) so take what I say with a grain of salt. The bottom line for me is that I my transition from the ASR 7 has been easy and quite enjoyable!
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    Ok I've gotten to ride a few times now. And since we have lots of snow on the trails still I'm riding the paved hills however I'm using the time and rides to get the saddle positioned just so and the cockpit arranged as it seems to work differently than my last shimano setup.
    This bike is no slouch in the climbing department. I had some reservations about the climbing as there is so little out about the climbing ability of the bike. The 74 degree seat tube feels like with some adjustment in the saddle you are right in the sweet spot for hammering away and a longer climb. I figured since I liked the rest of the bike I'd be sacrificing in this department, however that is not the case. Its a goat and no you don't have to climb in granny gear all the time I'm running on the big ring up front and three big gears in the back as I'm not super strong climber. This bike could easily be ridden everywhere as a 1x10 by anyone. Pick your front gear wisely or twice but I feel confident in that statement as the bike climbs that well. If you considering getting one and are thinking "how does it climb?" Go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Ok I've gotten to ride a few times now. And since we have lots of snow on the trails still I'm riding the paved hills however I'm using the time and rides to get the saddle positioned just so and the cockpit arranged as it seems to work differently than my last shimano setup.
    This bike is no slouch in the climbing department. I had some reservations about the climbing as there is so little out about the climbing ability of the bike. The 74 degree seat tube feels like with some adjustment in the saddle you are right in the sweet spot for hammering away and a longer climb. I figured since I liked the rest of the bike I'd be sacrificing in this department, however that is not the case. Its a goat and no you don't have to climb in granny gear all the time I'm running on the big ring up front and three big gears in the back as I'm not super strong climber. This bike could easily be ridden everywhere as a 1x10 by anyone. Pick your front gear wisely or twice but I feel confident in that statement as the bike climbs that well. If you considering getting one and are thinking "how does it climb?" Go for it!
    I agree on the climbing assessment. I have been very happy with the bike's response whether spinning or stomping out of the saddle. What front rings are you using? I am really liking 24/36 front with 11-36 10spd rear.

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    Hi folks,
    is there any rider weight limit on the Bandit 29 or Covert 29 Frame?
    Couldn't find any infos, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.a.l.r.o.g View Post
    Hi folks,
    is there any rider weight limit on the Bandit 29 or Covert 29 Frame?
    Couldn't find any infos, sorry.
    Not that I am aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.a.l.r.o.g View Post
    Hi folks,
    is there any rider weight limit on the Bandit 29 or Covert 29 Frame?
    Couldn't find any infos, sorry.
    I'm not aware of anything, either, though a quick phone call to Transition would be the last word on the subject.

    And you even get to speak to a real human being, an American one at that!!
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    Digging the bike more and more! I have settled on the trail mode with the trail adj set at 1, on the Rev fork I like the middle setting with 3 clicks of LS comp. This gives the right balance of platform for pedaling yet still supple in the rocks.

    BTW, the front shifting felt off so I checked out the housing/cable, it was all gunked up already at the BB end. Put a new piece of housing on and used a sealed housing end on that stop, vulnerable spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Digging the bike more and more! I have settled on the trail mode with the trail adj set at 1, on the Rev fork I like the middle setting with 3 clicks of LS comp. This gives the right balance of platform for pedaling yet still supple in the rocks.

    BTW, the front shifting felt off so I checked out the housing/cable, it was all gunked up already at the BB end. Put a new piece of housing on and used a sealed housing end on that stop, vulnerable spot.
    Agreed. Also running in Trail #1. Flip to Descend and the chunky downhills disappear beneath me! This bike with 140mm travel and 29" wheels is an incredible thing. Roll it, drop it, pedal to the metal...I can't wait for Moab next month!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    I'm not aware of anything, either, though a quick phone call to Transition would be the last word on the subject.

    And you even get to speak to a real human being, an American one at that!!
    Thanks for your suggestion, but since I'm from germany (and got two different weight infos around here - once its free, once 120kg totally packed) and mtbr is linked on the transition page I hoped to get an official answer. Think I'm giving the call a try tonight

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    Hi, I'm currently drooling over the Covert 29er and am itching to make a purchase, maybe next month as soon as they become available in the UK. However decent write-ups on the bike seem to be few and far between at the moment. I've got a C'dale Flash 29er hardtail for my XC needs, but am looking for something a bit more on the fun side for my full suss bike, something I can work on getting some air on and hitting rock gardens harder and quicker than I currently do on my hard tail. Coming from such a lightweight hard tail I'm just wondering what the Covert is like for climbing? I'm not looking to break any records on the climbs - in fact climb slow and steady and save my legs for the downhills will be my strategy, but just want something that wont be bobbing around, doesn't feel too heavy and take on technical climbs (albeit slowly). I guess i'm after an All-Mountain bike in the true sense of the phrase. Sounds like the Covert 29er might fit the bill? My worry is that coming in at 33lbs for a full build, it might feel a bit of a weight to lug around. Cheers.

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    Hi Wobbliscott, there are a number of demos in the UK available depending on what size you require and where you live, I test rode one at the weekend, did part of the mini enduro course in exeter, I wasn't that impressed, the bike just didn't handle that well, the bike prob needs more setting up in the sus department for me. I really love the look of the bike and wanted to do the megavalanche on it.
    I did the mega last year on a spec enduro which was great gave me confidence in every way. I would like to move away from the mainstream manufactures, Transition looked good, may be the covert 26 would be abetter bet?
    decisions decisions?
    on the plus it went up hill like a train which you would expect from a 29er.
    Cheers

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    33lbs is spot on for this kind of bike IMO, especially with beefier wheels/tires. It's not like a long travel 26" bike, this bike feels much more nimble and pedal friendly, more like a regular ol' trail bike.

    Of course it's gonna feel a little sluggish compared to a lightweight hardtail but it climbs and pedals nice, step on the pedals and it goes. I think it's a better technical climber than my previous FS 29er as well due to it's more compact geometry.

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    Thanks for the feedback chaps. I'm going to arrange a test ride, but not sure how much I can glean from a single ride without really getting used to the bike and setting up the suspension. I'm not trying to win any races on it and certainly not planning anything like the Megavalanche, but will be taking it to the Alps and just don't want it to climb like a Blancmange. Sound like it might fit the bill. Looking forward to a test ride now. Cheers.

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    I'm thinking fox 34, full xt and some Hope hub/dt swiss wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    Hi Wobbliscott, there are a number of demos in the UK available depending on what size you require and where you live, I test rode one at the weekend, did part of the mini enduro course in exeter, I wasn't that impressed, the bike just didn't handle that well, the bike prob needs more setting up in the sus department for me. I really love the look of the bike and wanted to do the megavalanche on it.
    I did the mega last year on a spec enduro which was great gave me confidence in every way. I would like to move away from the mainstream manufactures, Transition looked good, may be the covert 26 would be abetter bet?
    decisions decisions?
    on the plus it went up hill like a train which you would expect from a 29er.
    Cheers
    I can't emphasize enough how big of a difference getting the suspension and geo dialed in makes on this bike. On my first ride I was underwhelmed, climbed like sh!t and the descending didnt inspire confidence. Now that the suspension, particularly the rear shock, is tuned and the geometry is more suited to my riding style its like a whole new bike!

    Like some others on this thread I'm running my rear in trail mode on the '1' setting.
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    Thanks - got a test ride organised so will make sure I have a play with the rear shock - though i was looking at the lower spec build kit 3 with the RockShox Monarch rear shock for my actual purchase, not sure what settings these have and how they compare with the Fox CDT. Might look to upgrade the rear shock then. Can't wait to give it a go though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evel2yn View Post
    I guess time will tell us if 27.5 or 29 are the way to go...
    I already know the answer... for me

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    Has anyone done any climbing on the Covert 29? How does it compare to the Yeti SB-95?

    Unfortunately there are no demo Covert 29ers in SoCal that I am aware of. I've ridden the Banshee Prime and the TT is too short in a Large and I'm not willing to step up to the 48" WB on the XL. The Covert 29 in an XL feels pretty good, but I'd like to see how the seat angle positions me for the more technical climbs. I felt to cramped on the Prime and had a hard time getting traction. The SB-95 climbs pretty damn well, but I'm liking the Covert for more All-Mountain use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INCONEL View Post
    Has anyone done any climbing on the Covert 29? How does it compare to the Yeti SB-95?

    Unfortunately there are no demo Covert 29ers in SoCal that I am aware of. I've ridden the Banshee Prime and the TT is too short in a Large and I'm not willing to step up to the 48" WB on the XL. The Covert 29 in an XL feels pretty good, but I'd like to see how the seat angle positions me for the more technical climbs. I felt to cramped on the Prime and had a hard time getting traction. The SB-95 climbs pretty damn well, but I'm liking the Covert for more All-Mountain use.
    I've never tried the sb-95 so I can't compare the two, but I'd say its on par with my rumblefish which I thought was a great climber. I've ridden the c29 on tame Front Range stuff thus far but there have been some steep switch backs that I handled with no problem...once the suspension and Geo were dialed in.
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    Frame is here


    Build should be complete in a few weeks

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    Nice!, I really like my stealth black build, she's a looker for sure. I used blue Hope hubs and with the blue accents in the frame it matched well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    Just ordered a white large frame, should be here in a couple of weeks can't wait. I'll keep you all updated with the build.
    Change of heart eh? I bet once you get it dialed you will love it, I honestly can't think of a negative regarding ride quality and handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Change of heart eh? I bet once you get it dialed you will love it, I honestly can't think of a negative regarding ride quality and handling.
    Couldnt resist, such a great looking bike, it arrived yesterday, started to order some bits up, thinking of a 1x10, would a 34 be to big up front with a 36/11 @ the rear?

    I'll post some photos later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanerlb View Post
    Couldnt resist, such a great looking bike, it arrived yesterday, started to order some bits up, thinking of a 1x10, would a 34 be to big up front with a 36/11 @ the rear?

    I'll post some photos later.
    Would be for me, I'm running a 2x10 but I live in the mtns at elevation

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    Fine tuning the shifting.

    I have the Transition #2 build kit and have never been happy with the front shifting on the 24-36 upshift with the X9 crankset and Fder. It feels like the chain gets jammed into the 36 ring and sticks instead of popping over the top. I also don't like the way SRAM attaches their left crank arms when compared to Shimano. I think the Shimano method is much more solid.

    I had an SLX M665 crankset laying around with 24-36 Shimano rings (which I also think work better than SRAM rings) so I installed it today. I also got to looking at the X9 Fder and there is a bend ("kink") in the inner cage plate that I think is trapping the chain against the chainring, causing some poor performance. As you can see in the pic, I filed the "kink" down to remove the catching point. I also freed the Fder housing from the lower cable attachment on the down tube as this forced the housing into a ridiculous bend around the bottom bracket that required excessive force at the thumb shifter (much, much better now).

    Summary from the Shimano rings, filed Fder, and smoother housing bend...much improved front shifting. I no longer dread shifting my Fder!

    Moab in two weeks...stay tuned!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    ^ What bash is that?
    Stock bash from the X9 crank. Bike came stock with the 24-38-no bash gears. I ordered the 22-36-bash spider to create a 24-36-bash on the X9 crank. I had a BBG bash on the SLX crank but liked the rounded edges and lower profile of the X9 bash. Now the SLX crank is 24-36-bash. The 24 is from FSA and is offset inboard just a bit (maybe 1mm...better chain line). The 36 is the stock Shimano ring from the M665 crank. The bash is from the X9 spider so the crankset is a bit Frankenstein. By switching cranks I also improved chain line and had to remove a 2.5mm spacer from behind the chain guide to line everything up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    Fine tuning the shifting.



    Moab in two weeks...stay tuned!
    I'll be in Moab as well that weekend! What are you riding?
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    Hey if your not gonna use the X9 crank would you be interested in selling the stock spider with 24/38 rings? I have the 26/39 XO crankset and the granny gear is a little too high.

    Also curious you said the chainline moved inboard, how's the clearance from the chainrings to the rear shifter housing? Mine is tight as is and I read the 24/38 spider moves the rings inboard, good for the chainline but concerned about the housing getting chewed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    Hey if your not gonna use the X9 crank would you be interested in selling the stock spider with 24/38 rings? I have the 26/39 XO crankset and the granny gear is a little too high.

    Also curious you said the chainline moved inboard, how's the clearance from the chainrings to the rear shifter housing? Mine is tight as is and I read the 24/38 spider moves the rings inboard, good for the chainline but concerned about the housing getting chewed up.
    Sorry, the 24 is going on another bike. I have no issue with the housing and chainring as I use a zip-tie through that little hole in the chainstay right behind the Fder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmontroy View Post
    I'll be in Moab as well that weekend! What are you riding?
    Hopefully Porcupine...and...Amasa area, Mag 7, Brand trails, Bartlet, Slickrock. Hopefully as much as our legs can stand for four days...first day in Fruita of a five day trip.

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    Prioritize Pipe Dream over the Brand trails. [Edit- noticed you didn't mention Sovereign - you're probably familiar with those trails, but if not, I'd ride them before Brand, unless you have beginners with you.] And I assume you noticed in the UT forum that there's a new trail on Amasa Back. Have fun- you should have a Moab killer there in your Covert. I'm headed there in a month, myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Prioritize Pipe Dream over the Brand trails. [Edit- noticed you didn't mention Sovereign - you're probably familiar with those trails, but if not, I'd ride them before Brand, unless you have beginners with you.] And I assume you noticed in the UT forum that there's a new trail on Amasa Back. Have fun- you should have a Moab killer there in your Covert. I'm headed there in a month, myself.
    Yep, we have some green riders in the group. Thus, the Brand trails are good to hit to give those guys a break. Soverign was fun and a good suggestion as I think everybody would enjoy the area. The only part of Amasa I have done is the original climb last year and then got rained out. I really want to explore those trails. Did Pipe Dream two years ago and had a luke warm experience...but that might be because I had my knee stitched up the day before. Porcupine is always the highlight and we try to hit it twice if possible so I'm hoping there's some serious snow melting going on right now. Can't wait!

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    Im going to buy a covert 29 but is not sure what size i need (L or XL). I'm 188 cm tall. Any advices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ansman View Post
    Im going to buy a covert 29 but is not sure what size i need (L or XL). I'm 188 cm tall. Any advices?
    You're only 2" shorter than me and I ride a XL, with a lot post showing, and I have about a 34" inseam.

    I'd go with an XL. It also ran a bit smaller than my 2012 Trek Rumblefish XL if that's any reference for you.
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    That sounds a lot like my agenda, as well. We usually camp down Kane Creek so it's a good launching point for Amasa and others in the area. Happy riding and if you see a big fella' on a gold Covert with blue wheels say "hi"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrien View Post
    Frame is here


    Build should be complete in a few weeks

    Have everything on order, just waiting on some backorder stuff.

    Size Large Black Covert
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    Hope Hubs laced to Stan's ZTR Flow EX
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    Full XT Groupset w/finned pads and ICE-TECH rotors

    Crossing my fingers that it comes in under 30lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by ansman View Post
    Im going to buy a covert 29 but is not sure what size i need (L or XL). I'm 188 cm tall. Any advices?
    I am 6'3" so just one inch taller than you. I have the XL with a 50mm stem and 800mm bar. At first it felt very short, especially compared to my previous XL ASR7 (Yeti uses long top tubes). I had planned to use a 70mm stem whenever someone came out with one for the 35mm bar. After riding two months, I may just stay here as I really like how things are handling now that I've made the adjustmemt.

    So...long story longer. You are right between recommended sizes as you stated. The L has a reach that is only 0.8" shorter than the XL so technically I could get the same fit on a L by using a 70mm stem. Same for you. You can vary the stem lenth by 20mm and get the same "reach" from saddle to grips on both sizes. How do you like a bike to fit and handle? If you are used to longer top tubes go for the XL. If you like a shorter upright position for playful handling, go L. XL with shorter stem and longer wheelbase or L with longer stem and shorter wheelbase.

    My guess is that most people in your situation would choose the XL as their previous bikes all had long top tubes. If you come from a BMX background or understand that there are handling advantages available with the shorter bikes then the L could be a good choice.

    My current setup is much, much shorter than anything I have ever done and there has been a learing curve...mainly for climbing. Now that I understand where to better position my body during certain situations, I will never go back to the long and slow handling from my past.

    Good luck!

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    I've just pressed the button on a Covert 29 and am super excited. The bike shop seemed to think that they wont get one in until April but couldn't confirm the date just yet. Does anyone know if this is the latest delivery from Transition? I don't doubt the bike shop but am just super-excited and want an idea as to when it might turn up? I've gone for a Medium in white with build kit 3 with an upgraded rear shock (Fox CDT Adjust boost) and reverb dropper post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbliscott View Post
    I've just pressed the button on a Covert 29 and am super excited. The bike shop seemed to think that they wont get one in until April but couldn't confirm the date just yet. Does anyone know if this is the latest delivery from Transition? I don't doubt the bike shop but am just super-excited and want an idea as to when it might turn up? I've gone for a Medium in white with build kit 3 with an upgraded rear shock (Fox CDT Adjust boost) and reverb dropper post.
    My Bandit 29 showed up a little bit early and my Covert 29 was seriously ahead of schedule getting to me. So I'm going to guess that you will be pleasantly surprised by the delivery date when you get your new ride.
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    Ok I've had some decent rides now on mine and have been pleased with the product. I rode Tuesday in St. George UT area which was the first ride on some extended singletrack. The Covert 29er is the real deal. I will be posting a video of it running another local trail later in the week. I'll shot with a POV cam on a unicorn mount aimed at capturing the bike at work and under load, by a non-pro rider. The suspension is impressive to say the least. I am new to dropper posts and have now come to rely on its benefits. Once you start using one you'll never go back. The bike climbs really well and I'll be lowering my bars a bit to keep the front wheel down. I did notice that mine with a couple of spacers in it seemed light. Nothing that can't be adjusted and it wasn't out of control. The part that surprised me was the amount of noise put out by the rear shock that baby was bumpin! I'll be guaging its effort by that noise for the near future. I'm 190lbs and I'm running 80 fork and 180 shock. I've just been going in trail as none of the riding so far has had extended DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico View Post
    My Bandit 29 showed up a little bit early and my Covert 29 was seriously ahead of schedule getting to me. So I'm going to guess that you will be pleasantly surprised by the delivery date when you get your new ride.
    You were right! It's arrived and being built up now. I will pick up this weekend, can't wait, though it might be a week before I get a proper ride on it. The excitement is building!

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    The Covert 29 performed wonderfully in Moab. The bike maneuvered well and never once did I feel too "long" in the tight stuff. I have adapted to the upright short position and found it very comfortable in uncertain technical terrain both up and down.

    I only noticed the longer chainstays compared to my ASR7 in two instances. One was when climbing a very steep incline and a power move was required to pop over a ledge. I found myself getting my weight too far forward and spinning the rear tire. The second is when trying to manual. I find it's hard to lift and hold the front tire for surprise wheelie drops. It takes a deliberate effort of weighting the front a bit and popping up to suspend the front wheel. When I saw the drop coming and had the time to use proper technique it was easy. It was just more difficult when trying to do this in a split second with no warning.

    I never felt like my "tail" was trailing behind me like I do on the Giant Anthem X29. Still, I am very excited about the new Enduro 29 with the amazingly short stays. I hope this sparks a new round of innovation in the long travel 29er ranks. 17.7" stays and 140mm of travel is adequate, but 16.9" stays and 155mm of travel sounds incredible!

    Though I am excited with the numbers on the new Enduro 29, I am extremely pleased with how the Covert 29 is performing as an all-around trail bike that is perfectly suited to Moab style technical terrain. I will ride the C29 until she's ready to retire and hope to see more options along the lines of the new Enduro 29 in a couple years.

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    I've had a few rides on my new steed now so thought I'd check back in with a report of first impressions. I ride in Derbyshire in the UK and following a particularly crummy 2012 'summer' followed by an even more crummy winter conditions are far from ideal, thick heavy mud, frozen rutted ground, so a real test for any bike and rider. Coming from a lightweight XC hard tail I was a bit concerned about the extra weight of the Covert, but so far I've not really noticed it to be a significant issue. I'm amazed by how well the bike handles XC pedaling and steep technical climbs, especially in the tricky conditions we've got. Then when it comes to the downhills the bike comes into its own and definitely promotes the more fun side which is what I was looking for following my more serious and focussed XC hardtail. So far I'm loving it an the bike is exceeding my expectations. It is definitely living upto the All-Mountain label. Can't get enough of it right now. Got some big rides planned, I'm just hoping the 2013 summer is an improvement over 2012's.

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    Chili Pepper Bikes in Moab has a few Covert 29s in their rental fleet, and we rented one for a friend. She was getting banged around on her GF Mamba, and while she has ridden the Mamba on Porcupine before, after a year of little riding she wasn't having as much fun on Mag 7 as we hoped. We decided that she needed something squishy for Porc and staged an intervention. It's a nice looking bike. She liked it a lot, but the Bandit would be a better fit for her back home. I kicked around on it for a couple minutes, but not enough to form an opinion. I outweigh her by ~50+ lbs and didn't feel like pulling out the shock pump so that was it.

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    Has anyone changed their stock gearing yet smaller with the 2x and guide. I'm half temped to go with a smaller big ring in a 32t. However the mrp2+ guide stock is only set for 36 I think ( sorry in the office) and may not be compatible. Whats the experience here. I just don't see me needing this big a ring up front and for the rest of the trail I'd probably get better shifts. will the guide work with a 32t?

    Who knows of some deals on different gear options?
    Considering going with RaceFace Turbine 10spd 22/32 set from universalcycles.com
    speak to me and share your expertise.

    I ride an area that it's either up of down and not interested in going 1x. Sometimes the climbs are long and sucking thus the question. The bike is awesome! I'm just NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    Has anyone changed their stock gearing yet smaller with the 2x and guide. I'm half temped to go with a smaller big ring in a 32t. However the mrp2+ guide stock is only set for 36 I think ( sorry in the office) and may not be compatible. Whats the experience here. I just don't see me needing this big a ring up front and for the rest of the trail I'd probably get better shifts. will the guide work with a 32t?

    Who knows of some deals on different gear options?
    Considering going with RaceFace Turbine 10spd 22/32 set from universalcycles.com
    speak to me and share your expertise.

    I ride an area that it's either up of down and not interested in going 1x. Sometimes the climbs are long and sucking thus the question. The bike is awesome! I'm just NOT.
    Check out the MRP LRP for 2x setups. It has a 32-36t range. A 32x11t high gear is plenty fast on a 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico View Post
    Check out the MRP LRP for 2x setups. It has a 32-36t range. A 32x11t high gear is plenty fast on a 29er.
    With all the 1x11 talk it stands to reason that the 32/22 or 24 would be ideal for the rest of the non-pro riders. Has anyone changed these rings out yet? This is an awesome idea however the cheapster in me says make the guide I already have work. ...somehow

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPeper View Post
    With all the 1x11 talk it stands to reason that the 32/22 or 24 would be ideal for the rest of the non-pro riders. Has anyone changed these rings out yet? This is an awesome idea however the cheapster in me says make the guide I already have work. ...somehow
    I have a MRP LRP roller setup on my '12 Bandit. I'm currently running 20-30t front on a 180mm Mr Whirly 5 bolt compact crank, a 32t ring will be swapped on next time the cranks are off. The arm holding the roller has been notched to clear the swingarm and the roller slot is filed, so that the roller sits very high and close to the BBG bashguard.

    Zero shifting or chain control problems, very quiet also and I'm not even running a rear derailleur with a clutch. So the same setup will be replicated (with a 175mm Mr Whirly) on my Covert 29 when it gets built after the SOC. However, I may go for a rear derailleur with a clutch on the C29 as it will see higher speeds and bigger drops with it's greater focus on gravity days.
    Abandoned the 26" wheel in May '03

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    covert 29er-img_0053.jpg

    I put a Hope IBG 32t on my covert.

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    I used to run a 34 on my previous bike and would spin it out on the fireroads but not on the trails. If you have a 36t cog in the back a 22 granny would be some pretty low gearing. Personally I would go a little higher like 34/24, that would give you smooth shifts up front and a bit higher gearing, and still have that low bailout gear.

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    I agree. I have a 11-36 in back and currently a 24/36 in front. I'm surprised by how much I can push the 36x36, but I think I'll change that ring out for a 34 this spring and gain a lot more time in the big ring. I think that'll be perfect.

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    Quick query here... Is there any maintenance to do on the suspension pivot bushings? Any lubrication needed? It is pretty muddy in the uk and the bike is getting regular hose downs so I'm concerned with washing out any bushing lube. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbliscott View Post
    Quick query here... Is there any maintenance to do on the suspension pivot bushings? Any lubrication needed? It is pretty muddy in the uk and the bike is getting regular hose downs so I'm concerned with washing out any bushing lube. Cheers.
    Not bushings. Sealed cartridge bearings. Might be a bit late, but try not to hit them with water spray. If I had been spraying them down, I would probable order a spare bearing set and the required tool or tools needed to install them from Transition...
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    I've been spraying my bike down and trying to avoid the stuff as I'm sure you have. I'll be looking into those as well.
    Thanks for the input on the guide and ring setup. I'm thinking 32t so I can climb on that bigger hear more. Not much fire road here. Average strava is 8.6 mph for my rides. Not doing any shuttle stuff. Looking for a way to catch all the lefty riders who climb :-) the 32 would be the smallest that would fit the stock crank to resemble the x1. And keep the bail out gear for the steeps. Good term whoever posted that name. I liked it :-)

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