Build season

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  • 12-23-2012
    pascale27
    Build season
    This my really my favorite time of the year. The leaves are all down and there's less trail traffic because of the colder temps here in nj. This is also when we like to do our building (before the ground freezes). Just started a few minor projects and am excited about 2 extensions we'll be adding to existing trails. Just getting pumped to cut some trail.
  • 12-23-2012
    bsieb
    I agree, I always get the trail building urge when that autumn nip hits the air. Got a new 14 mile trail to tread in, working name is Big View, hope to have it rideable by summer. Too much snow cover right now tho, so it's xc ski and snowshoe til spring melt. :D
  • 12-23-2012
    NEPMTBA
    At least here in the North East...No bugs, gnats, skeeters, bees, pollen, snakes, leaves on trees, among other attention getters.

    So, much easier to see flow before the build.
  • 12-23-2012
    boostin
    yup, this is the good time to be out throwing dirt for us. The ground is saturated with moisture and it sticks and packs like a boss. We extended some berms and added some kickers to the local trails yesterday!
  • 12-24-2012
    HypNoTic
    Around here, winter season (mid-november/mid-april) restrict trailbuilding to "GIS analysis" because of the pretty intense snow cover. We got 5ft just in the last week...
  • 12-24-2012
    pascale27
    We rarely get significant snow in south jersey anymore so it's prime time to add or fix trails
  • 12-24-2012
    jeffw-13
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    Just finished flagging 1.6 miles of new singletrack yesterday. I think ill call it 'red baloon' because I keep seeing this up there

    Attachment 747683
  • 12-25-2012
    Cedarbranchbiker1
    Here in the "sunny south", deer season ends January 1, I hope to get back to working on my trail. I lease to deer hunters so in hunting season, I leave the woods to them. So many deer/car collisions, it doesn't hurt to thin them out, plus it leaves more food for the other deer.
    ANYWAY, I hope to get my trail raked, marked and ready to ride. Cold doesn't bother me that much, of course my "cold" doesn't compare to the "cold" some of you have to put up with. But after watching Coast Guard Alaska and watching my fellow Coasties surf and spearfish in Alaska, what's a little cold on a bike?
  • 12-26-2012
    Trail Ninja
    The ground is good and frozen here in Eastern Ontario & I haven't been able to build for over a year due to medical reasons. (I had to look out the window to see where I was when I woke up this morning.) In a couple of weeks I'll be back out on Vancouver Island where you can't tell the seasons apart & I'm pretty sure I'm in good enough shape to start building again. The trails I built for the middle school bike club are being logged at this moment so there should be lots of clean-up to do. I should be able to build some new features as well. The kids will get a whole new set of trails and I'll have lots to do.

    I think I'm going to have a pretty good year.
  • 12-26-2012
    OscarW
    Down here we may be able to ride year 'round, but building in the summer heat is about a 4 hour deal as it is too hot in July/August/Sept timeframe, and not much gets done except the bare minimum repair. We are now cooling off and will get, and have already, major projects done. We just finished a 150 ton fill job on a re-route of a major trail. This Jan we will tweak the project with one more 'dozer rental and staging of fill in various spots.

    Our main problem is the tropical rain that erode the trails in a big way and we have to buy double crushed lime rock to repair the damage. Fortunately this stuff lasts a very long time. We are now also using pavers in the big wear area's as well to keep from having to come back. Fortunately the races we organize pay for all this material and tools we use.:thumbsup:

    This season looks like we will have more volunteers too, as people are now seeing what has been achieved by just 2-3 people over the past 3 months.. Maybe we shamed a few riders into paying back with some effort, in what is a free trail system.
  • 12-26-2012
    GatorB
    Bam!





    I got one of these for Christmas and Im itching to use it.:D:D:D:D:D
  • 12-28-2012
    jeffw-13
    Nice! I got 5 rolls of pink flagging tape!
  • 12-29-2012
    bsieb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Just finished flagging 1.6 miles of new singletrack yesterday. I think ill call it 'red baloon' because I keep seeing this up there

    Attachment 747683

    We have a new trail called Flight Of The Fawn, sometimes they name themselves!
  • 12-29-2012
    OscarW
    ^ Yes thy do..We have a trail called Iguana Ridge as a huge Iguana scared the cr^p out of one of the trail crew..:ihih:
    The name instantly stuck and a sign is in production..
  • 12-30-2012
    swampboy62
    Too much snow in NE Ohio to actually build right now. But we were out flagging the first rough line of the first trail of the new mtb trail system at Lake Milton State Park. We'll be back out next weekend and likely have most of phase 1 roughed in.

    May start cutting corridor soon. Can't do a lot more with 10" on the ground.

    Steve Z
  • 12-30-2012
    mealsonwheels
    The wife got me a rogue hoe for Christmas too. Lots of rain recently where I am and my 7" hoe was cutting the DG like butter. Perfect trail building conditions in SoCal.
  • 12-31-2012
    mtn.skratch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mealsonwheels View Post
    The wife got me a rogue hoe for Christmas too. Lots of rain recently where I am and my 7" hoe was cutting the DG like butter. Perfect trail building conditions in SoCal.

    haha! I got a rogue hoe too from my gal for Christmas. My buds come up to help build and the Rogue hoe always gets snagged up:D She bought me another so I always have one to use.

    Build season in full force right now, I agree. Ground is a little hard, but unstable("frozen" dirt breaks apart easily), so with the Rogue hoe and a pick maddox it's pretty easy to break up and form. The 5-6" of snow is adding some good moisture to drought ridden Colorado Front Range dirt. I like the way the snow mixes in with the dirt. A lot of tree work with my 290 too. Probably in my head, but I feel like Stihl runs better when it's cooler out. Gettin' beetle kill on the ground and limbed. Most logs get used for berms, trannies, or lips and the rest is bucked up for burnin'. Speakin' of all this, I'm out to cut and dig:thumbsup:

    Happy buildin' in the New Year folks!
  • 12-31-2012
    OscarW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtn.skratch View Post
    haha! I got a rogue hoe too from my gal for Christmas. My buds come up to help build and the Rogue hoe always gets snagged up:D She bought me another so I always have one to use.

    Build season in full force right now, I agree. Ground is a little hard, but unstable("frozen" dirt breaks apart easily), so with the Rogue hoe and a pick maddox it's pretty easy to break up and form. The 5-6" of snow is adding some good moisture to drought ridden Colorado Front Range dirt. I like the way the snow mixes in with the dirt. A lot of tree work with my 290 too. Probably in my head, but I feel like Stihl runs better when it's cooler out. Gettin' beetle kill on the ground and limbed. Most logs get used for berms, trannies, or lips and the rest is bucked up for burnin'. Speakin' of all this, I'm out to cut and dig:thumbsup:

    Happy buildin' in the New Year folks!

    Happy trail building to you!!

    Sounds you're getting some work done and you're right on the Stihl running better in the cooler weather. My saws did a lot of work in Northern Illinois before moving down here and they aren't too happy in the heat...
  • 12-31-2012
    Ridnparadise
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Nice! I got 5 rolls of pink flagging tape!

    Secret Santa or stingy family?;)
  • 01-01-2013
    Ridnparadise
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    Summer here. Normally this would be a wet time of year, but so far it remains pretty dry. Shame, as water makes building far easier apart from the nappy (diaper) rash and I'd also like to avoid trail digger's lung. We can cope with the heat, but Dust = Bad. Oh well, it just makes you put more effort into line and grade selection, plus the amount of stone you add to the tread.

    Heres's some pics from this week including new trail work, test riding, a Witjuti Grub being released into the wild, saved dirt, a small ant checking out our work and the reason for it all.

    Happy New Year.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1357028334

    http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1357028446

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  • 01-01-2013
    Trail Ninja
    What's going on in picture #2? Is that just a temporary blockage for construction?

    I might just have to get myself a little sailboat and come riding.
  • 01-01-2013
    Ridnparadise
    The majority of that trail is complete and we are just trying to discourage use until we close a section of the trail it replaces, add a new connecting section of trail between the two and then complete the last bit on either end of the new trail. Both ends have logs and other debris added for now. Looks crappy and prevents us riding it as well, but the trail is already too popular and too obvious.
  • 01-01-2013
    Trail Ninja
    I always build the kid's trails that way, no entrance or exit. In the BC forest that means no one has a clue that the trail is there until I open it.
  • 01-01-2013
    mack_turtle
    spent most of the day yesterday improving some un-used singletrack in a nearby park. I am getting over a cold, so I didn't want to go riding just yet. dang that is some back-breaking work!



    I need to get one of those hardcore shovel/rake things, because my rigid rake is not cutting it!
  • 01-01-2013
    pascale27
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trail Ninja View Post
    I always build the kid's trails that way, no entrance or exit. In the BC forest that means no one has a clue that the trail is there until I open it.

    exactly, people are like how did you guys build that whole trail in 1 day not realizing that we only the "ends" when everything else is finished
  • 01-01-2013
    Trail Ninja
    It's how I got my nickname. The kids would go riding one day and find a brand new trail that wasn't there the day before. One of them said "It must be Ninjas building these trails"
  • 01-01-2013
    Ridnparadise
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  • 01-02-2013
    Cotharyus
    Man, I almost asked this yesterday, but I'm going to today. What's that red thing? Looks like some sort of psychotic fire ant from hell.
  • 01-02-2013
    Trail Ninja
    Yeah, how big is that thing? The biggest ant we have here is maybe 3/4" long.
  • 01-02-2013
    Ridnparadise
    He's about 25cm (10 inches)
  • 01-02-2013
    OscarW
    Cool!! I need a few for our trails to scare a few peeps..:D
  • 01-02-2013
    boostin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    He's about 25cm (10 inches)

    Dude, I bet it hurts when they bite!
  • 01-02-2013
    mtn.skratch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Happy trail building to you!!

    Sounds you're getting some work done and you're right on the Stihl running better in the cooler weather. My saws did a lot of work in Northern Illinois before moving down here and they aren't too happy in the heat...

    Yeah, I've learned that trail building is addictive, especially with free reign so the work goes easy:) and thanks for validating my thoughts with the chainsaw:thumbsup:
  • 01-03-2013
    Ridnparadise
    I know Australia has a reputation for nasty crawlies, but he's made of metal guys:rolleyes::D

    However, 10m from him I was bitten by a 2cm red ant and my arm swelled up for a week. That's why he's there - to scare the s#!^ out of the mongrel that bit me!
  • 01-03-2013
    Cotharyus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    I know Australia has a reputation for nasty crawlies, but he's made of metal guys:rolleyes::D

    However, 10m from him I was bitten by a 2cm red ant and my arm swelled up for a week. That's why he's there - to scare the s#!^ out of the mongrel that bit me!

    Now that's funny! :thumbsup:
  • 01-03-2013
    Trail Ninja
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    I know Australia has a reputation for nasty crawlies, but he's made of metal guys:rolleyes::D

    However, 10m from him I was bitten by a 2cm red ant and my arm swelled up for a week. That's why he's there - to scare the s#!^ out of the mongrel that bit me!

    Bravo!
    :thumbsup:
    We were thoroughly taken.
  • 01-04-2013
    mtn.skratch
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    Here are a few pics of the work I am doing. The last is a pic of one of the critters that hangs out in our trees, not metal, but still keeps ya' on your toes:p

    Happy diggin' folks!
  • 01-04-2013
    OscarW
    ^ Soft kitty, warm kitty Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty Purr purr purr...:D
  • 01-05-2013
    Cotharyus
    All you have to do is call them: Here kitty kitty kitty.... You know you're safe then, because no cat ever comes when it's called. :)
  • 01-05-2013
    crux
    That is a big kitty.
  • 01-12-2013
    OscarW
    Kiity looks positively pissed off.....
  • 01-12-2013
    mtn.skratch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Kiity looks positively pissed off.....

    haha! It was! Our husky treed it. The cat looks full too or else it may have been a different story...
  • 01-12-2013
    mtn.skratch
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    Here's a few more pics( it's 6 degrees so I'm not building today:p)

    The first shows the little rock gap from the top into the left bermed sweeper.

    The second better shows the log transition. They are braced into the rocks on the far end and the long log that is closer, which is wedged between two large rocks on either end. All the logs are all rebar'd in and now a fixture of the mountainside.

    The last is a steepish, kinda rocky switchback that I scraped in before the snow...rides okay currently but want to try and make it flow a little more while retaining the technical feel, not really sure what to change. May log in the outside edge of the corner with small diameter logs to provide something to push against while cornering...

    Hope y'all are gettin' some good buildin' in!
  • 01-12-2013
    OscarW
    Dang Dude, good for your dog on the kitty issue...:lol: :lol:
    Looks like you're doing a great job on your trail there, although 6 degrees is a bit on the cool side to do any work...:eekster:
    As for us, we are adding a 1/4 mile of trail using a Toro Dingo and it is working well so far as it is our first time using one.
    I must say that 82 F is way too fricking hot this time of the year for us too btw..:madman:
  • 01-13-2013
    mtn.skratch
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    Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Dang Dude, good for your dog on the kitty issue...:lol: :lol:
    Looks like you're doing a great job on your trail there, although 6 degrees is a bit on the cool side to do any work...:eekster:
    As for us, we are adding a 1/4 mile of trail using a Toro Dingo and it is working well so far as it is our first time using one.
    I must say that 82 F is way too fricking hot this time of the year for us too btw..:madman:

    Thanks Oscar:thumbsup:

    I've never used a Toro Dingo either, you have any pics of the trail addition/build process?
  • 01-14-2013
    OscarW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtn.skratch View Post
    Thanks Oscar:thumbsup:

    I've never used a Toro Dingo either, you have any pics of the trail addition/build process?

    Yes we have pics on our FB page as we had a massive turnout yesterday!
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    Just click on the album and you'll see more of what we have build and how we do it. In Florida we have to build our own hills and so we need tons of fill. Last year we added 500 tons of lime rock to the trails and this year we expect to get 700 tons going, IF all the races bring us the $$ we need to do this.
  • 01-14-2013
    mtn.skratch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Yes we have pics on our FB page as we had a massive turnout yesterday!
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    Just click on the album and you'll see more of what we have build and how we do it. In Florida we have to build our own hills and so we need tons of fill. Last year we added 500 tons of lime rock to the trails and this year we expect to get 700 tons going, IF all the races bring us the $$ we need to do this.

    Very Cool Oscar! Looks like a rad area! That's a lot to move around, good thing ya got the Dingo, that thing looks like it get's it done:thumbsup:

    Your trails look fun, well constructed and flowy, and with some jump areas:)

    Is that area the TOE or like it?
  • 01-15-2013
    OscarW
    TOE?? Sorry don't know that abbreviation.:blush:
  • 01-16-2013
    mtn.skratch
    I may have the name wrong. A buddy of mine grew up riding in Florida. He was always talking about a riding area they frequented called the TOE. I guess it's an acronym for Trail Of Experience. Your pics reminded of me of the pics he showed me.

    At any rate, you guys have some good things goin' on there:thumbsup:
  • 01-16-2013
    OscarW
    Thanks!! :D