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    New question here. water bottle bolt thingy problem

    the thing that the water bottle bolt bolts into on El Moto spins

    i cannot get the upper bolt out as everything spins

    i did a Blackie and overtightened the bolt

    help, what shall I do ?~?

    power tool ?~?

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    Take it to the LBS. They'll remove the rivet and insert a new one, provided this shop is worth a damn.

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    a solution besides LBS please

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    AM~ I had a little play in one of mine. I took the bolt out and squeezed the the little flange with a pair of needle-nose pliers parallel to the down-tube.

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    i can't get the bolt out, it's stuck and they both turn

    i guess all get the GRINDER out... the 8" or 4" version ?~?

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    can you wedge something under the rivet, so that you can remove the bolt?

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    cyanoacrylate (AKA super glue)? can you dab some on the insert without getting it in the bolt?

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    Grab the flange with the needle-nose, then turn the bolt.

    Then...

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    LBS is the best option

    I had the same thing happen on another manufacture's frame and my LBS had it fixed in about 20 minutes.

    Of course I first tried to fix it by grabbing the riv-nut insert by the outside flange with some pliers and put a really nice scratch in the downtube... After seeing how easy the shop handled it I felt like the idiot I play on TV...

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    Firmly instyall a thin screwdriver under the lip, put a peice of E tape under it to help prevent scratching. apply inward/upward pressure to stabilize, it should come free, if not, the needle nose works too. Once out, take a nut larger than the bolt, put it on the bolt, and reinstall the bolt in the boss. Tighten the bolt down so the nut is snug against the boss, then, while holding onto the nut with an appropriate wrench, this allows the nut to turn, and tighten the rivet inside the frame, it should snug it up, and make the problem go away, simple version of the shop rivnut installer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    help, what shall I do ?~?

    Use a Camelbak.
    Long Live Long Rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew
    Use a Camelbak.
    I use a pack... I need to bolts to mount a poly Lion battery for my bar light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Firmly instyall a thin screwdriver under the lip, put a peice of E tape under it to help prevent scratching. apply inward/upward pressure to stabilize, it should come free, if not, the needle nose works too. Once out, take a nut larger than the bolt, put it on the bolt, and reinstall the bolt in the boss. Tighten the bolt down so the nut is snug against the boss, then, while holding onto the nut with an appropriate wrench, this allows the nut to turn, and tighten the rivet inside the frame, it should snug it up, and make the problem go away, simple version of the shop rivnut installer!
    Thank-you kindly sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    I use a pack... I need to bolts to mount a poly Lion battery for my bar light.
    Lights are for sissies.
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Lights are for sissies.
    new frames hangin on the wall are for sissies

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    new frames hangin on the wall are for sissies
    I hate you.
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I hate you.
    does that mean no riding for a while ?~?

    did the frame get zoke stoked.... or undecided ?~?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    does that mean no riding for a while ?~?

    did the frame get zoke stoked.... or undecided ?~?
    No riding till July.
    I'm currently re-lining my pockets with greasy, oil-soaked dollar bills.

    Still undecided as well. Today I'm leaning coil...

    Maybe a fresh victim will clear my head...bring on the seals!
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Geo you still have time to repent and sell the frame on the wall for an El Guapo

    El Guapo's are better artwork and weigh the same

    A Zoke Stoked El Guapo would be real nice. Those new Zoke air plungers would be RAD on an El Guapo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Geo you still have time to repent and sell the frame on the wall for an El Guapo

    El Guapo's are better artwork and weigh the same

    A Zoke Stoked El Guapo would be real nice. Those new Zoke air plungers would be RAD on an El Guapo.
    I have toyed with the idea of selling the frame. I would not buy a El Guapo. I don't need it. I have the SuMo. The SuMo would go on a diet.

    Please don't ask me to sell my SuMo.

    I'm waiting to see the new Tranny Blindside.
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I have toyed with the idea of selling the frame. I would not buy a El Guapo. I don't need it. I have the SuMo. The SuMo would go on a diet.

    Please don't ask me to sell my SuMo.

    I'm waiting to see the new Tranny Blindside.

    El Guapo is needed. You can build a light RAD trail bike.

    You know how much you like the SuMo.... believe that the El Guapo delivers the same promise. The El Guapo is set up perfectly for a longer fork. You can get a sweet 68 degree HA easy with an incredible BB height. No weight lost of gained from the frame on your wall and it will be stiffer, pedal just as well, climb better, more travel.... No doubt. Please PM demo_slug for the good oil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I have toyed with the idea of selling the frame. I would not buy a El Guapo. I don't need it. I have the SuMo. The SuMo would go on a diet.

    Please don't ask me to sell my SuMo.

    I'm waiting to see the new Tranny Blindside.
    all the cool kids are trading up from el SuMo to el Guapo.

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    geolover

    consider your options carefully

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    You need a Titus beside your SuMo

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    all the cool kids are trading up from el SuMo to el Guapo.
    If you want to sell me your DH bike...I'd consider the Guap.

    AM
    Less than 1 pound difference between SuMo and Guap.
    If I went 6" travel bike I'd really have to look at the RFX...I like the looks of the new geometry.
    Extreme stationary biker.

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