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    Wink The pale horse...

    it showed up today.

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    Ooooh, ahhh
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    The bike is built. Everything went very well. Headset pressed in easily, bottom bracket went in straight without any need for chasing the threads, rear brake mounts faced from factory, cable routing not too shaby (even though there are now headtube tabs anymore). I'd say for 999$ including shock this is the best deal out there. Other than a few paint smears the frame came in and built perfect. But I'll do more damage to the paint on the first ride than what it came out of the box with.

    With the "monster" fork the head angle is 65* and seat angle at 69.5*. Bottom bracket at 13.25" (seems rather low) but the head tube sits at the same hight as my V1 with a 160mm fork (vs 180 on the V3). The numbers look good. The head angle is only a degree more slack than the V1 and doesn't feel odd messing around in the street. Proper ride wont happen 'til Sunday at the earliest.







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    Looks awesome! I have black frame heading my way right now...can't wait to get it built up!

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    That thing is screaming for a dropper post. Looks great, did you weigh it?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

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    That thing is screaming for a dropper post. Looks great, did you weigh it?
    Tried a dropper post for a few miles once. I'm so used to grabbing the nose of the seat with my knees that I couldn't stand the post hitting me so low when I wass used to it up higher. Things may change once I get on some dedicated DH stuff but for now the bike is still going to "try" and be dual purpose.

    On the bath room scale the white bike ends up at 31.5# and stinky ends up at 30.2.
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    very nice but.. how can you ride both at once?

    also that fork.. is it some kind of limited edition?

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    very nice but.. how can you ride both at once?
    You've never had a threesome???

    also that fork.. is it some kind of limited edition?
    Nope regular ol' rockshox totem U-turn 180-135.
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    very nice setup!

    I hope my frame will arrive next week so I can take out the EG for a ride next weekend

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    What color did you get? I'd really like to see the super raw built up.
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    Hope it's a large........still waiting to see photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    What color did you get? I'd really like to see the super raw built up.
    you're glad! It's a super raw with ccdb air and a bos deville

    if everything turns out ok you can expect some pics at the end of next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    The bike is built. Everything went very well. Headset pressed in easily, bottom bracket went in straight without any need for chasing the threads, rear brake mounts faced from factory, cable routing not too shaby (even though there are now headtube tabs anymore). I'd say for 999$ including shock this is the best deal out there. Other than a few paint smears the frame came in and built perfect. But I'll do more damage to the paint on the first ride than what it came out of the box with.
    Terrible, you ever see the pearl on the ML1 (very nice), this finish the same ?

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    Terrible, you ever see the pearl on the ML1 (very nice), this finish the same ?
    Nope never did see one. The pearl is a real light effect. It's not like some of the honda civics I've seen with pearl paint. Very subtle.

    First ride went well. Did about a 20 mile lap at my local trails. It's alot of fun there and not too technical. little bit of everything though. The bike is great. I noticed the little bit of extra length on the top tube on the faster dh sections for sure. The bike seemed to track a little easier than my v1. I was running the same wheels that I've had on my v1 for the last couple months so it was a pretty honest test of the climbing/decending of the bike.

    Never had a single issue with the "monster" fork other than the fact that it needs to break in. Since I don't run a talas on my other bike (pulled the guts and swapped to a float) I just left the U-turn all the way up and rode the bike that way. I can't belive it did as well as it did with the 180mm fork on it. No regrets on my build.

    Two things need to change, lower/shorter stem, and I've got to break down and buy a new pair of pedals.
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    how did you find the rear shock vs the Fox RP? on the older one?

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    how did you find the rear shock vs the Fox RP? on the older one?
    The pro pedal is alot more aggresive than the rp. It's like the propedal doesn't work on the rp past half travel. With the rt3 it's more like the propedal is progressive. Maybe it has more to do with the air can volume but that's just how it feels. The rebound is a little to steep for me. I'd like to have a few clicks less even with it at full open. The bike still has a good "pop" to it but I prefer to run my rebound pretty light.
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    ok the rebound, that probably just needs breaking in. good to hear the pp is firm, i was mostly worried about mine bobbing on climbs. the PP full on (on Monarch) is good for getting air still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    Nope never did see one. The pearl is a real light effect. It's not like some of the honda civics I've seen with pearl paint. Very subtle.

    First ride went well. Did about a 20 mile lap at my local trails. It's alot of fun there and not too technical. little bit of everything though. The bike is great. I noticed the little bit of extra length on the top tube on the faster dh sections for sure. The bike seemed to track a little easier than my v1. I was running the same wheels that I've had on my v1 for the last couple months so it was a pretty honest test of the climbing/decending of the bike.

    Never had a single issue with the "monster" fork other than the fact that it needs to break in. Since I don't run a talas on my other bike (pulled the guts and swapped to a float) I just left the U-turn all the way up and rode the bike that way. I can't belive it did as well as it did with the 180mm fork on it. No regrets on my build.

    Two things need to change, lower/shorter stem, and I've got to break down and buy a new pair of pedals.
    Nice looking built there... i hope you are wearing all white looking to charm the trail..

    so you run 180mm on on uphill section? how technical is the climb? this is something i really wanted to know more on having a tall front. i really cant decide on the fork. on one end i wanted to try the long XF vengeance but worried about the climbing section and the other end the XF travel adjust version heavy weight is not appealing at all. if travel adjust is a must, will have to stretch the pocket for the expensive Fox Talas. your input will be must appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    Proper ride wont happen 'til Sunday at the earliest.
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    Got a chance to beat on it some. Had two xc style rides and about a dozen runs at snow shoe this weekend. The monarch is worlds better than the rp23 on the dh type stuff. The extra TT length really helped on the rough stuff (lower hare-ball double black and super super rocky) The fork really came into it's own after a quick tear down and lubing up with some slick honey. Could still use that short stem.

    I was only able to get the v3 down the hills twice since my wife was on it while I was riding the v1. I was able to do back-back trails so it was about as close of a shoot out as it gets. If the trails are slow and tech the v1 can pull a bit of an edge with it's faster turning. But as soon as you hit 25mph plus stuff the head angle and stability of the v3 just make a rocket. Not sure what made v3 a better flyer but it does like the air a bit more than v1.

    Really pleased with the bike overall. Never thought to myself "gee the rear end on this thing could stand to be a through axle" nor did I think the head angle was to slack with my "monster fork"
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    Man, thought I was the only one who wanted a white one!! And glad to hear it held up at snow shoe. Makes me feel more sure of my purchase.

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    Just ordered medium white with CCDB air from On-one site.
    Don't really NEED this one, but this deal was too good to pass up after almost getting the 5-Spot that was on sale at Jenson.
    Anyone know if it's true that you can't run ZS lower on the El Guapo?
    I was going to buy the Lyrik 170 Solo air RC2DH with 1 1/8 steerer and ZS lower cup to counter the extra travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafer.2 View Post
    Anyone know if it's true that you can't run ZS lower on the El Guapo?
    I was going to buy the Lyrik 170 Solo air RC2DH with 1 1/8 steerer and ZS lower cup to counter the extra travel.
    I don't see any reason why a ZS44/28,6 - ZS49/30 headset shouldn't work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osti View Post
    I don't see any reason why a ZS44/28,6 - ZS49/30 headset shouldn't work for you.
    This comment in "Propose fork for El Guapo" thread put me on hold on my fork purchase.
    Ben (old titus dude) used to say external headset w/ 545mm axle to crown is the intended design. When I asked, said EG can handle the slackset, also said internal headset and longer A2C would void warrantee FWIW

    I've emailed Titus on their web site, so hope to clear this up soon.

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    That is from the old Titus 2010 and conversations from when the Angleset came to market

    Two new version since then, let us know

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    Don't really NEED this one
    Neither did I

    If they are pushing the 170mm forks I would figure that the anlge set with a inset cup would be even less leverage than a 160 with an external cup. I guess that all depends on the a2c of whatever fork you pick.

    I guess if I snap my head tube off I'm hosed since I run an external cup and 180 fork. Oh well, not like I'm a huge air guy or a pork'r.
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    Checked for more info on the Lyrik 170mm, and looks like it can be run at 160 or 170, so problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafer.2 View Post
    This comment in "Propose fork for El Guapo" thread put me on hold on my fork purchase.
    Ben (old titus dude) used to say external headset w/ 545mm axle to crown is the intended design. When I asked, said EG can handle the slackset, also said internal headset and longer A2C would void warrantee FWIW

    I've emailed Titus on their web site, so hope to clear this up soon.
    So Ben, this "old titus dude" said that, or Titus, the company said that?
    Seems that plenty of people are using 160mm forks with 545 A/C, with external headset cups, with no complaints from anyone. So how does the A/C of an internal headset with a 10mm longer fork exceed the total length below the headtube?
    C'mon, have you seen the weld overlap of your head tube/top tube/down tube? You, nor anyone else, is going to snap it off. It's awesomely bomber, IMO.
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    New bike looks great Terrible.
    Disclaimer: Always get a second opinion cause I'm just guessing

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    Renegade, he worked for Titus, old recommended specs were from right after the switch from the square 09' seat stays.. the old head angle, old traditional 1.5 tube, old tt length

    rock both ss, front end is awesomely bomber
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    New bike looks great Terrible
    Thanks!

    Another good ride tonight. Coming back from snowshoe and hitting my local trails I wanted a new front tire. I like specialized's tires and have had very good luck with them. had my local shop get me a 2.4 purgatory control. Diggin' it so far. Things are a bit loose but with some rain the trails are coming back to life. I've really taken to laying this bike way down in the turns. I guess the low BB is good for something. Getting alot of pedal smacks on trails that have some bench cutting. I'm wondering if I could have gone with 170mm cranks and saved some space for ma' toes.
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    I usually ride black bikes, but the pic of your build convinced me to order a white frame.
    Then had to order new white Lyriks to match, of course.
    Does On-One ship by boat? Takes forever to get to US!

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    Does On-One ship by boat? Takes forever to get to US!
    I think they have a tele-porter set up cause mine got to WV in a week but I think it was in the shipment that went to the US warehouse first.
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    I think they have a tele-porter set up cause mine got to WV in a week but I think it was in the shipment that went to the US warehouse first.
    Portland was out of raw large eg's, so i ordered a large eg with the ccdb shock from England. It took 16 days to get to Long Beach, California. You should have seen what the damaged box looked like. I think it went thru Syria first. The frame came out of the box ok tho, so no damage. I installed the polished shock link and it looks alot better than the raw one. I think i will call this bike "SILVER" as in "HI HO SILVER".

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    And for whomever gave me the negative rep for having two EG's: Yes it does make me a better rider nah nah nah boo boo I have two elguapos dont you wish you did too!

    Heading to Davis WV next week for a four day ride fest with some friends. Probably going to take the v3 to get some seriously rough xc miles on it. Really wanting a chain guide since the snow shoe race. I've been looking around and I'd like to have something I could use either 1x9 or 2x9 but not sure if such a thing exists. I think I could get away with a 1x9 if I man up and start standing more but after 20 miles it gets tough without a granny gear.

    Looking at the MRP mini G2 sl right now. Those things are expensive for not being made of much!
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    2 Gs too...

    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    And for whomever gave me the negative rep for having two EG's: Yes it does make me a better rider nah nah nah boo boo I have two elguapos dont you wish you did too!
    Just finished building my second I've been hoarding for awhile...
    2 EG = 2 totally different ride. Not gonna give a hoot what others might think.



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    I'll trade you my white one for the brown frame....

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