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    Motolite I or II?

    is there a big difference with having carbon seat-stays and rockers? im getting ready to buy a small ML...but dont know which one to buy. any opinions?

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    mostly weight savings, I'd say

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    Check to see which shock they come with. I think the 1 comes with RP2 and the 2 comes with the RP23. Big difference in the shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blooper
    Check to see which shock they come with. I think the 1 comes with RP2 and the 2 comes with the RP23. Big difference in the shocks.

    Brian
    you can get the rp23 on either the I or II...other than that, just a weight difference?

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    Available colors is also a difference if that matters to you.

    That silver ano on the ML II is top notch. I think that copper color
    is the only choice for the ML I.

    You probably knew this.

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    Actually, the Green Ano is amazing! you have to see it to really appreciate it.
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    +1 on the green

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    The green is actually not powder or ano but actually painted.

    That being said, even though I promised myself I'd never buy a painted frame again because it looks sh!te after a couple months, i would go green over any anodised colour if I had to get another ML now.

    As ferretboy said, you really have to see it to really appreciate it. I truly have never seen such an awesome looking paintjob on a bike. The finish is outstanding. It really is beautiful.

    By the way....is the ML2 a stretch financially? Just asking cos if you can afford it then this really is a silly question

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    Correct you are on the frame being painted Mintsauce and I should know that being dealer and all.lol..The ML2 frame retails for $1795.00 (carbon rear) and the ML2 complete bike (bronze color-sram) retails for $2495.00. Hey that's why we work..to spend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferretboy
    ...and I should know that being dealer and all.lol..
    ferretboy
    Glad you've decided to become a part of the forum. If you are a dealer it is common practice (rule?) to state that you are a dealer, either in your signature or your profile.

    It lets people out there question your motives and call you a liar when you say something positive about the brands you sell...

    Plus, it gives people another source for Titus stuff.

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    Moto Lite part deux

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
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    Glad you've decided to become a part of the forum. If you are a dealer it is common practice (rule?) to state that you are a dealer, either in your signature or your profile.

    It lets people out there question your motives and call you a liar when you say something positive about the brands you sell...

    Plus, it gives people another source for Titus stuff.

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    LOL thanks geolover, I'll do that..attention everyone...attention everyone..yes you in the back sit down and listen. I am a Bicycle Dealer! I didn't state it originally because I was just chiming in. I try to stay objective with my posts so as to not come across all biased and stuff. I usually lurk more just to see what the buzz is and see what people are feeling. But yes, I can be a source for Titus stuff, although I would first direct you to someone in your neck of the woods and only if they cannot get one, then I would be glad to help you guys and gals out. Plus by letting people know that I was a dealer I felt some might be thinking that I was using this forum to sell stuff over the intarweb and that's not my first objective here. (mind control ray being fired up as we speak)
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    Check out the Black ML 2 super hawt

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    Quote Originally Posted by barelylegal
    Check out the Black ML 2 super hawt
    this is what im leaning towards...maybe some red king hubs and headset!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    this is what im leaning towards...maybe some red king hubs and headset!!!
    or pink Chris king hubs and headsets or why not ALL BLACK

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    Red King hubs, Red King headset, Red DT nipples, black spokes, DT rims, Black ML2, Red Magura Marta SL's................that would be the macdaddy ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barelylegal
    or pink Chris king hubs and headsets or why not ALL BLACK
    i like the pink bits on black anno

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    i like the pink bits on black anno
    mate, I got spare ck pink hubs/headset in my hoard box ... just waiting for you and BA to finally pull the trigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by barelylegal
    or pink Chris king hubs and headsets or why not ALL BLACK

    ALL BLACK would be the tits!!!

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    Although the gang have some pretty good ideas there, I feel you should be a tad bit more original

    I'm thinking GREEN ML2 WITH GREEN KING HUBS AND HEADSET AND EVRYTHING ELSE BLACK LIKE AVID JUICY CARBON, THOMSON, XTR CRANKS, X.O DRIVETRAIN ETC, ETC........(ferretboy....can I borrow your mind-control ray, pretty-please? )
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    One of my guys just picked up a green ML2. we're thinking RASTA!! red king isodisc hub rear with black spokes on black DT 4.1D green and gold nipples and for the front a gold king isodisc hub black spokes and red and green nipples. King dreadset, rasta skewers, Rasta seat quick releases. how's that for a lot of work and a fruitbowl of colors?
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    Haha....sounds interesting. Could work i think!
    If I wanted your opinion I'd give it to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MintSauce
    Haha....sounds interesting. Could work i think!
    i bet anything sounds good to you with a whistla trip upcoming

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    i bet anything sounds good to you with a whistla trip upcoming

    Hahahaa....you have a point
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    Quote Originally Posted by barelylegal
    mate, I got spare ck pink hubs/headset in my hoard box ... just waiting for you and BA to finally pull the trigger
    Why waite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferretboy
    One of my guys just picked up a green ML2. we're thinking RASTA!! red king isodisc hub rear with black spokes on black DT 4.1D green and gold nipples and for the front a gold king isodisc hub black spokes and red and green nipples. King dreadset, rasta skewers, Rasta seat quick releases. how's that for a lot of work and a fruitbowl of colors?
    ~ferretboy

    That would have to be the gawdiest most tacky color combo I've heard yet!

    Which is the only way to go, with these kinds of things IMO.

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    thinking about buying the bike online...has anyone had experience with this? do you take it to a LBS to get fitted and 24hr adjustment...are bike shops tolerant to doing that even though the bike was not purchased there? sorry for the newb ?'s!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    thinking about buying the bike online...has anyone had experience with this? do you take it to a LBS to get fitted and 24hr adjustment...are bike shops tolerant to doing that even though the bike was not purchased there? sorry for the newb ?'s!!!

    it is likely that the LBS won't be happy about it and charge you the full rate for their services (understandably)... I bought my bikes online, but I do all the wrenching by myself....

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    are the vendors that titus has on their website the only ones? any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    are the vendors that titus has on their website the only ones? any recommendations?
    they are the only ones that can sell online, as in "prices published on a website" online....

    You can talk to the "local board dealers"
    BikerBob.com,
    Chad @ Red Barn
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    for great deals

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    Black and Red

    I'm a big fan of black and red-goes back to some high school fraternity associations,I think.
    Last time I posted a photo of this bike some people critiqued it as too much red. I think not! More is better.
    OK, maybe the front tire can go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbob.com
    I'm a big fan of black and red-goes back to some high school fraternity associations,I think.
    Last time I posted a photo of this bike some people critiqued it as too much red. I think not! More is better.
    OK, maybe the front tire can go.

    HOT BIKE...what fork is that?

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    Unless you wrench yourself buying online only saves you money in the initial costs........Your "Local" shop will charge you full rate probably for labour in the servicing and adjustments (they gotta eat and stay in business too you know). If you have warranty issues, don't expect them to break the bike down for free and ship it free either.

    I've bought all of my bikes online in the past 2 years, saved a bunch, but was prepared for what my local shop would charge in the future (know their hourly/beer&pizza rate first).

    I buy all accessories and clothes and pay for the service without quibble cause my local shop is a great shop.....just not a Titus dealer anymore. In fact they are helping me with my warranty issue with Titus right now and have been quite good about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    HOT BIKE...what fork is that?
    Fox Talas 32 R(LC) apparently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbob.com
    I'm a big fan of black and red-goes back to some high school fraternity associations,I think.
    Last time I posted a photo of this bike some people critiqued it as too much red. I think not! More is better.
    OK, maybe the front tire can go.
    Love that build! I am going in a blue direction with my bike. Do you have any blue Hope QR seat collars in stock?

    Here is my ML II when it first arrived:


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    Quote Originally Posted by TiEndo
    I buy all accessories and clothes ...
    Same here... I do almost all my wrenching, but wheels. I can't do wheels even to save my life.

    This is another are where buying on-line is not very healthy... Shoes, jerseys, gloves, helmets; need to be tried on for fit. Period.

    Unless you keep buying from the same brand and your weight/mass don't have wild variations; you should buy all fit items from a LBS. Also, they're great for some items like tubes, cables, housing, etc... Unless you combine shipping with larger stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anand
    Love that build! I am going in a blue direction with my bike. Do you have any blue Hope QR seat collars in stock?

    Here is my ML II when it first arrived:


    I went with a few blue accents on my last silver demo. Lockons, seatpost clamp, and bottle cage only. I have blue Hopes for your ML if you want, Anand.
    Going back to red on black for my RX Carbon demo. Red ESI grips!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiEndo
    Unless you wrench yourself buying online only saves you money in the initial costs........Your "Local" shop will charge you full rate probably for labour in the servicing and adjustments (they gotta eat and stay in business too you know). If you have warranty issues, don't expect them to break the bike down for free and ship it free either.

    I've bought all of my bikes online in the past 2 years, saved a bunch, but was prepared for what my local shop would charge in the future (know their hourly/beer&pizza rate first).

    I buy all accessories and clothes and pay for the service without quibble cause my local shop is a great shop.....just not a Titus dealer anymore. In fact they are helping me with my warranty issue with Titus right now and have been quite good about it.
    Good point you bring up here TiEndo. As a shop manager and longtime employee (20+ years) We do not enjoy when people come pick our brains for all the info about something only to go buy it online. Now with that said, do we still try to service and answer all questions from customers about products? We certainly do! Do we charge full pop for stuff to be built or tuned up from an online purchase? We "usually" do, but on ocassion, there are true noobs that really don't know about establishing a good relationship with your LBS and think price is "everything" it's like the "ebay/online game" see how cheap you can get the newest hottest part and step on everyone in the way of that, We help them and educate them about stuff. Do we help out with warranty issues EVEN if they bought the bike/part online? Yes, although all work done is charged at full pop. As stated earlier in the thread, we do have to stay in business and we do value ALL customers because they are the source of our livelyhood and passion. MOST shops just want to make a living doing what they enjoy and love, work on, ride , help people enjoy and sell bikes. I love what I do for a living and just like everything else this has it's good and bad points, but in the end I'd not trade this for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    That would have to be the gawdiest most tacky color combo I've heard yet!

    Which is the only way to go, with these kinds of things IMO.
    Methinks so too, although I am curious to see how it turns out...I'll have to post my frankenstien King parts racer-x up to get some insults and feedback..lol
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    And.....now back to the topic.
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    Wow, great attitude and business perspective! To the poster asking about online purchase and local service, I would suggest buying it local if possible if you will need to rely on the shop for all service. You'll end up spending the online savings on small tuneups, etc. that would likely be free if you bought the bike there and why not create the goodwill/relationship with the local shop. I do most of my own service, so I will buy online for some things if there is a substantial savings, however, my local shop gives 10% discount for being an IMBA member and they have some good prices, so they can be competitive. Now, if you don't like the local shop or if they can't get what you want, then by all means buy online. For online purchases, consider supporting a MTBR sponsor or frequent poster such as BikerBob.

    Quote Originally Posted by ferretboy
    Good point you bring up here TiEndo. As a shop manager and longtime employee (20+ years) We do not enjoy when people come pick our brains for all the info about something only to go buy it online. Now with that said, do we still try to service and answer all questions from customers about products? We certainly do! Do we charge full pop for stuff to be built or tuned up from an online purchase? We "usually" do, but on ocassion, there are true noobs that really don't know about establishing a good relationship with your LBS and think price is "everything" it's like the "ebay/online game" see how cheap you can get the newest hottest part and step on everyone in the way of that, We help them and educate them about stuff. Do we help out with warranty issues EVEN if they bought the bike/part online? Yes, although all work done is charged at full pop. As stated earlier in the thread, we do have to stay in business and we do value ALL customers because they are the source of our livelyhood and passion. MOST shops just want to make a living doing what they enjoy and love, work on, ride , help people enjoy and sell bikes. I love what I do for a living and just like everything else this has it's good and bad points, but in the end I'd not trade this for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    are the vendors that titus has on their website the only ones? any recommendations?

    Hammerhead Bikes in Austin is great, and they are a car trip away from Houston. They've had a long relationship with Titus.


    They built up my green Motolite. Now if it would only stop f#$%ing raining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    Why waite!
    ditto ... i am not a leader kind of guy... but a loyal follower

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    The green one ;) :) :)

    Hey Mint... what you think of my new to be baby I am soooo exited cant wait... just need another R3000 and she is Mine...mine mine mine

    Oh yes.. sorry to Hijack the thread, but I am just so exited.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DH_WP
    Hey Mint... what you think of my new to be baby I am soooo exited cant wait... just need another R3000 and she is Mine...mine mine mine

    Oh yes.. sorry to Hijack the thread, but I am just so exited.
    Very nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH_WP
    Hey Mint... what you think of my new to be baby I am soooo exited cant wait... just need another R3000 and she is Mine...mine mine mine

    Oh yes.. sorry to Hijack the thread, but I am just so exited.

    Man, do you have any close-up pics of that finish?? It looks gorgeous!!
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    kermit lives in SA !~!

    Congratulations DH_WP.


    Quote Originally Posted by DH_WP
    Hey Mint... what you think of my new to be baby I am soooo exited cant wait... just need another R3000 and she is Mine...mine mine mine

    Oh yes.. sorry to Hijack the thread, but I am just so exited.




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    what is the difference b/n avid juicy 7's and 5's?

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    mainly, the juicy 7 has the pad contact point adjuster and the 5 does not have that feature, the 7 weighs 8 grams less at 420g's and color, 7 in graphite 5 in silver. Power is pretty much identical, just not as much adjustability.
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    im getting ready to pull the trigger on a MLII...I need a recommendation on a fork. should i get the Manitou Minute 3:00 SPV Evolve, 130mm Infinite Travel Adjust w/Bar Mount; or the Fox Racing Shox 32 TALAS RLC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    im getting ready to pull the trigger on a MLII...I need a recommendation on a fork. should i get the Manitou Minute 3:00 SPV Evolve, 130mm Infinite Travel Adjust w/Bar Mount; or the Fox Racing Shox 32 TALAS RLC?
    get the fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    get the fox.
    how would have thought that you'd recommend a fox

    I agree though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    get the fox.
    any other forks out there worth mentioning??? the talas rlc is a $400 upgrade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    any other forks out there worth mentioning??? the talas rlc is a $400 upgrade...
    The pike is a very nice option...best/lightest option is the 454 dual air/u-turn. Super adjustable and respectable weight (not as light as Fox). Marz is coming out with 140mm XC700 in 2008...not sure when they'll be available. In the past marz has been a good value, although I think their prices are spiking.

    Manitou Nixon is also available in 145mm. Most people are afraid of Manitou's (for good reason), but when they are in working order...they feel/ride excellent.

    FWIW, Manitou and Pike are 20mm thru-axle. Fox and Marz are standard QR. Actually, you may be able to get Manitou's either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie_20
    any other forks out there worth mentioning??? the talas rlc is a $400 upgrade...
    the ML complete comes with a talas RL. which is a rad fork!!!!! I got a used 07 talas RL and it was a total upgrade over 06 pushed van rlc.

    If I had very limited funds I would run the Van R. good quality fork no frills, just works great. there is a lot to be said for buying a part and then just forgetting about it.

    but If I was trying to keep it light and didn't have much DH stuff... I'd opt for the F120. the ML handles real good all around at 120 and climbs real good there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    If I had very limited funds I would run the Van R. good quality fork no frills, just works great. there is a lot to be said for buying a part and then just forgetting about it.


    I forgot about the Vanilla. Good fork...great value!
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    im ordering my ML II in the morning!!! anyone have a pic of a blue no threadset on at ML II? what color do you guys think i should get?

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    I've got a blue King headset on my black ano ML2 - looks sweet, and matches the controls on the RP23 and TALAS. Now if only I could afford some blue hubs.... No pics yet, sorry.

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