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    I ♥ my MotoLite

    Still one of the best bikes evar!
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    Just needs a basket for all the wildflowers!

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    still the one

    Yep, this is what I hear in my head everytime I ride:

    You're still the one -- that I love to touch
    Still the one -- and I can't get enough
    We're still having fun, and you're still the one

    You're still the one -- who can scratch my itch
    Still the one -- and I wouldn't switch
    We're still having fun, and you're still the one
    You are still the one -- that makes me shout
    Still the one -- that I dream about
    We're still having fun, and you're still the one
    You're still the one, yeah still the one
    We're still having fun, and you're still the one

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    Man, the old bike still looks great. The ML was a great bike. Hopefully Titus will bring it back.

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    Nice. Some things are just hard to improve upon. I just hung a new dive train and hydraulic disc brakes on my 8 year-old HH100x and took it for a spin the other day and was impressed again what a rockin' good bike it is.
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    Yeah, I still love mine too. Bought mine new in 2006, thought of replacing it with something newer....until the next ride I took on it! HA! These are great bikes indeed.

    How old is yours? What are you using to protect the chainstay from chain slap (it looks super thin, if there is anything at all)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by forgiven_nick
    Yeah, I still love mine too. Bought mine new in 2006, thought of replacing it with something newer....until the next ride I took on it! HA! These are great bikes indeed.

    How old is yours? What are you using to protect the chainstay from chain slap (it looks super thin, if there is anything at all)?
    I bought mine in May 2005. I just recently replaced the decals, which made it look new again. I still remember the brown box coming to my office, and the look of the secretary when I took it out to show her (she didn't care... at all).

    I'm using clear 3M frame protection on the chainstay, top and bottom; plus a little on the inside of the seatstay. It works great.

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    I love mine. Best bike I've ever owned. The only thing I would like is a spare rear end in case those carbin stays snap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by starsky
    I love mine. Best bike I've ever owned. The only thing I would like is a spare rear end in case those carbin stays snap!
    I don't know that I've ever heard of anyone's carbon seatstays breaking on a Moto. Now, the LightRail is a different story...

    I love my ML. The only thing improvement I could recommend is maybe a little more rear tire clearance for those of us who want to run an honest-to-god 2.3+ in the midwestern mud.

    Oh, and a larger seatpost to widen the selection of dropper posts available to us.

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    I love mine too, I just went Dyna 2x10 on mine. Part change but the frame stays the same.

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    Love mine too. Only thing that ever bothers me is how fast I go through DU bushings on my rear shock, but that's a Horst Link design issue. I look at all the newer 120 travel bikes that have come out in the last few years, and the ML still is at the top with any of them. Sure it's not as light as some of the newer carbon frames, but it still rocks. I race it, I trail ride it. It's also the little things like the 2nd bottle mount that the newer Titus stuff left off that reminds me it was the last Titus I lusted after. The FTM's rear end never did it for me.

    They need to bring the ML back, maybe just with a larger diameter seatpost, x-12 dropouts, and a tapered HT. A carbon version at 5lbs flat wouldn't be bad either.

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    Ditto the above, though I was slow to get on the Titus bandwagon. I've had mine now for over a year, and it's been great. I love the stiff rear end - which sounds unique to the ML at Titus. I also love the plush ride in the open RP2 (Pushed) mode - its like floating on a pillow. My next step is to install a Lefty Max Carbon 140 on it from my recently retired - God Rest Its Soul - Cannondale Prophet. Best of all worlds.

    This tapered headtube trend disturbs me but didn't prevent me from buying the ML. It makes no difference. Just look at motorcycles and their small head tubes. My 568 lb Harley has a smaller headtube than my ML! Talk about the power of marketing to convice fools of something they think they "need". My Prophet had a full 1.5" top/bottom, yet no difference to me in front end stiffness over the 1 1/8 found on the ML.
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    I received mine the same month and year as Duls. It's now hanging from the ceiling of my garage with a cracked seatstay. I can't even bare to look up at it I want back on her so bad! I've destroyed my body so much I can barely get on anything these days, however.
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    I love my 2007 Motolite as well but, some paint (ano brown?) at the bottom of chainstay next to the chainrings have come off (from rocks, etc. hitting it) and now bare metal is showing. Just wondering if this reduces the integrity of the frame in any way? If not, I suppose one day, I can repaint the frame. Was considering buying an FTM frame and move parts over from the motolite. But, as the thread says, I love my Motolite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatTigerSonny
    I love my 2007 Motolite as well but, some paint (ano brown?) at the bottom of chainstay next to the chainrings have come off (from rocks, etc. hitting it) and now bare metal is showing. Just wondering if this reduces the integrity of the frame in any way? If not, I suppose one day, I can repaint the frame. Was considering buying an FTM frame and move parts over from the motolite. But, as the thread says, I love my Motolite.

    Bad news. There's little else holding the bike together other than that thin coat of paint. If your MOUNTAIN BIKE is suffering from scratches I'm afraid its only a matter of time before the whole thing collapses beneath you.
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    Ah, it is good to have blackagness back and surly as ever!

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    I guess I have overlooked the warning sticker that reads "If your paint scratches, please discard the bike. Ride at your own risk."

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    Some ano brown paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by FatTigerSonny
    I love my 2007 Motolite as well but, some paint (ano brown?) at the bottom of chainstay next to the chainrings have come off (from rocks, etc. hitting it) and now bare metal is showing. Just wondering if this reduces the integrity of the frame in any way? If not, I suppose one day, I can repaint the frame. Was considering buying an FTM frame and move parts over from the motolite. But, as the thread says, I love my Motolite.
    stock paint= pansy cockface

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    Paint is lowest form of frame covering available. Anodized is where it's at. Falling somewhere between the two is a good powder coat.

    It amazes me that a boutique bike company the caliber of Titus would use paint for a frame. Spend a few extra nickels and coat that thing with something durable!

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    how much does paint stripping and anodizing or powdercoating cost generally?

    My top tube is getting dulled right now even. I tried waxing it with turtle wax, but no dice...still looks dulled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forgiven_nick
    how much does paint stripping and anodizing or powdercoating cost generally?

    My top tube is getting dulled right now even. I tried waxing it with turtle wax, but no dice...still looks dulled.
    Try bike wax. Its called something dust or I'll think of the name and post back. It'll work.




    Far as the paint and chainsay business, all true enough but there's not a paint or any other application made that can withstand a chain knocking around on it constantly. That's what lizard sins are for.
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    Not trying to hijack this thread and no disrespect to dulyebr for starting this worthy thread. But, there are a few responses regarding paint. I'm not even saying that Titus or its paint contractor did a bad job. Where I ride, Chantry Flats, in the San Gabriel mountains, there are a lot of rocks. I could have easily caused the damage going over rocks. But, the way the chip paint looks is a bit strange, as the pic will show. If you hit a rock, the scratch is usually identifiable. On mine, it just seems that a patch of paint just fell off. But, I know that since the bare metal is scratched up a little bit, that I did hit something. Maybe caused a small scratch, and the paint just started peeling from there. Now, since its a patch of bare metal, and over welded areas, I was thinking this cannot be good for the longevity of the frame. Any opinions? Nevertheless, I love riding this bike. I just finished a ride and this is still my primary ride. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forgiven_nick
    how much does paint stripping and anodizing or powdercoating cost generally?
    I had an old cro-mo hardtail frame stripped/powdered a few years ago by a place in Michigan. www.powdercoatstudio.com/
    They specialize in bike frames, so they're awesome about plugging holes/masking/facing and chasing threads afterward. I think it cost me about $120+shipping (which was about $30). It's not cheap, but it was completely worth it. It was almost like getting a brand new bike!
    They have tons of colors, but I went with a really nice matte white. It has been extremely durable so far!

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    Those trails are good to go??

    Quote Originally Posted by FatTigerSonny
    Not trying to hijack this thread and no disrespect to dulyebr for starting this worthy thread. But, there are a few responses regarding paint. I'm not even saying that Titus or its paint contractor did a bad job. Where I ride, Chantry Flats, in the San Gabriel mountains, there are a lot of rocks. I could have easily caused the damage going over rocks. But, the way the chip paint looks is a bit strange, as the pic will show. If you hit a rock, the scratch is usually identifiable. On mine, it just seems that a patch of paint just fell off. But, I know that since the bare metal is scratched up a little bit, that I did hit something. Maybe caused a small scratch, and the paint just started peeling from there. Now, since its a patch of bare metal, and over welded areas, I was thinking this cannot be good for the longevity of the frame. Any opinions? Nevertheless, I love riding this bike. I just finished a ride and this is still my primary ride. Thanks.

    Thought they were still completely ruined from the fire.. anyway blackness speaks the truth, just use a protector. Rotate it once in a while, even the protector will get chewed up. And one on the seatstay too. Old tire works

    *looking thru the noise in that pic, those are bite marks from chain slap.. anyone that still has paint there= pansy kackface
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    do you have a pic of the frame they did for you?

    Thanks. yeahdawg.
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    Idea!

    I've seen enough botched paint jobs posted often enough to say that in my opinion that pic is natural chain slap\rub.

    Pedros bike lust is the polish I was thinking of. Think they also have one called bike dust too? Whatevers at your LBS should do the job. Your sweat is full of salt. Which will eat YO shizz right up! Wash down your frame thoroughly, and rub that polish on with love and the old girl will SPARKLE in the sunlight.
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    For the record a botched paint job will start peeling away in flakes with no disernable pattern in the oddest places such as a top tube or down tube "for example" exposing the raw yet untouched "scratchless" material underneath. Think of an old house or some iron handrails in need of a new paint job. It will FLAKE. Get it? Common sense people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    Ah, it is good to have blackagness back and surly as ever!
    Surly?

    mtbr tends to cause one to "over think". I like to think of myself as a reality check!... When I'm right. When I'm wrong guess it makes me little more than an A-hole.

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    Appreaciate the sentament doe Ves! I admit!!... kinda missing yall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    I've seen enough botched paint jobs posted often enough to say that in my opinion that pic is natural chain slap\rub.

    Pedros bike lust is the polish I was thinking of. Think they also have one called bike dust too? Whatevers at your LBS should do the job. Your sweat is full of salt. Which will eat YO shizz right up! Wash down your frame thoroughly, and rub that polish on with love and the old girl will SPARKLE in the sunlight.

    Interestingly enough the latest edition of the Ibis Tech manual recommends against using Pedros Bike Lust as it is harmful to the paint. I would just stick with good old fashion lemon pledge.

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    gotta say, I just got a Motolite off of ebay. Finished building it up this past weekend, first ride on it was yesterday. DAMN, that is one fun bike. I'm running it in 5" mode with a 130 Revelation, CC Zonos wheelset, Eskar f/Captain r, mixed components of XT/X7, short stem & wide bars. This bike is fast.

    I'm not feeling the AM in this bike that some have expressed in the past. Maybe with a Pike and some beefy wheels??? I think this bike is THE definition of a lightweight trail bike that can rip up singletrack. Gonna drop the fork to 115mm this weekend and get to know this bike better. Happy I was able to pick one up... finally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro
    Gonna drop the fork to 115mm this weekend and get to know this bike better.
    Congrats on the purchase! I must say that 120mm is the sweet spot for forks on this frame, in my experience.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sopwithcamel
    Interestingly enough the latest edition of the Ibis Tech manual recommends against using Pedros Bike Lust as it is harmful to the paint. I would just stick with good old fashion lemon pledge.
    Good to know. However I used it for years and it always worked Wonderfully. And though I thrashed my ML into a wall decoration the paint still looks MARVALOUSE darling.


    Maybe that was for Ibis? I'm just a guy, and I'm telling you it works for brightening up dulling paint back to brand new on WELL utilized 05 ML's owned by blackagness. Without harming the paint.
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    Yep, same here on the fork travel...I used to run my revelation on 130 for any time I was pointed downhill longer than a minute or two. After trying the middle settings, around 115mm, I had forgotten to let out the front end for a few downhills and noticed a dramatic difference in handling. I wouldn't say I was wandering up front before @ 130, but just a few turns down on the fork travel made a definite improvement on how "balanced" the bike felt and how it railed through corners and was faster through the small dips, creek crossings, etc, not to mention the small rolling climbs....all to say that it just feels more nimble and aggressive @ slightly lower fork travel than 130mm. I wish I would've figured this out back in 2006 when I first got the frame! Enjoy your bike! These motolites rock!
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    f_n, I've seen some people claim that front end wandered a little on the steep climbs and got a bit light. I didn't experience that at all but I'm only running 15mm of spacers under my stem so my bar height is lower than I would normally ride, about 30.

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    I love my ML at 140mm railing single track "where I pride myself" as well as desending or climbing. Sometimes I lower it on climbs, sometimes not. Tends to wonder either way if the grades steep enough. The single track is fast and SUPER TIGHT down here btw. If you turn your head your nose smacks a tree, but I remember duly had similar feelings to yall.

    Anyway, we have tornados coming, and I've got 20 miles to cover just to drop off a tile sample all the way out in cow country.


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    Backie, buy some new carbon stays from the titusti.com site, and get your ML rideable again. It's a great complement to a built-up AM bike like a Guapo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr
    Backie, buy some new carbon stays from the titusti.com site, and get your ML rideable again. It's a great complement to a built-up AM bike like a Guapo.

    I think Blackie is too old to ride now...


    All kidding aside, dulebr is right, buy the carbon and get that ML back on the trail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    I think Blackie is too old to ride now...


    All kidding aside, dulebr is right, buy the carbon and get that ML back on the trail!

    Yeah, I remember when people used to sometimes think "THE BEAR" in my pic thingy was me.

    I can actually hardly walk sometimes from all the hits I've taken, but get me on a bike and I don't feel a thing... So far.


    EDIT: when in truth I'm just a black woman named Agness.
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    one of the best

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    Still one of the best bikes evar!
    for sure I have two of them & a racer x KP

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    Well fellas you asked for it and today I saw it at sea otter, a new Moto Lite on display that will replace the FTM...well for now at least they were unclear if FTM was totally gone or how it would fit in there new lineup.
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    went for a decent ride today after rebuilding my Revelation and dripping it down to 115mm. I can't say that it made any positive difference for me. Could be due to the already low stack height I was running on my stem but so far, liked it a LOT better at 130mm. Maybe a few more rides will sort things out but maybe I'll move the fork back to 130. IMO, it took a lot of the fun and playful feeling out of this bike and made it feel like a XC bike through and through.

    To each his own I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro
    went for a decent ride today after rebuilding my Revelation and dripping it down to 115mm. I can't say that it made any positive difference for me. Could be due to the already low stack height I was running on my stem but so far, liked it a LOT better at 130mm. Maybe a few more rides will sort things out but maybe I'll move the fork back to 130. IMO, it took a lot of the fun and playful feeling out of this bike and made it feel like a XC bike through and through.

    To each his own I guess.
    Similar feelings. I always thought people that prefered it that way because it feels more like what their used too. I can dive into corners with abandon, and still know how to keep the front tire planted without having to feel like I'm going over the bars all the time with my back hunched over.

    Loose the back tire traction= fun! Loose the front= dirt. guess it takes skill to know how to achieve it with your fork at the proper length so you can still be ready for the steaps. Ah, if only everyone could be as gifted as myself.


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    I just like my bottom bracket to be lower. I've gone with a 120mm fork (Reba) with no travel adjust and a low stack headset so that I could get the BB down. I also use 30% sag to lower things a bit. The Push trail tune helps keep the bob/squat under control.

    Just depends on what you want. I like the ML as a XC/trail bike. If it were my one bike, I'd want it more slacked out, but then you've got a BB that's ~14"...

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    agnes,
    I agree with the ML with a longer travel fork = more fun. I had no issues on the steep climbs or ripping through corners. I actually felt the front end to be a little too twitchy through quick downhill switchbacks. Felt it handled better with the fork at 130mm, actually. Then again, i'm used to a 68 deg 5" bike so controling FE wander is no big deal and cornering... well you get the point.

    dulyebr, the lower BB was about the only thing I did like about dropping the fork. I agree that the ML with a 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch lower BB woould be nice.

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    High BB's KILL handling. I've run 160mm up front and didn't notice that the BB felt high? 30% sag on a 120mm Reba seems like it would dive?

    The stack hieghts all in YO head, BTW!
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    Either way your right Duly. 14" BB is just plain lumbering.

    Go figure.
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    My motolite love just got reinforced after my last trip to Fruita/ Moab. We covered 145 miles in 3 days. Day 1 Marys loop + all the shorter loops off of it, Fruita, 15 miles. It railed the techy and fast singletrack. Day 2 Porcupine loop, Moab, 30 miles. Climbs like an xc bike but still nails it on the rocky DH. Day 3 White Rim Trail, Moab/ Canyonlands, 103 miles. Pedals great over the long haul but with enough cush to take out the pain of a 103 miles of mtbing.
    A very versatile and reliable bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whambat
    My motolite love just got reinforced after my last trip to Fruita/ Moab. We covered 145 miles in 3 days. Day 1 Marys loop + all the shorter loops off of it, Fruita, 15 miles. It railed the techy and fast singletrack. Day 2 Porcupine loop, Moab, 30 miles. Climbs like an xc bike but still nails it on the rocky DH. Day 3 White Rim Trail, Moab/ Canyonlands, 103 miles. Pedals great over the long haul but with enough cush to take out the pain of a 103 miles of mtbing.
    A very versatile and reliable bike.
    please post pics

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    sniff, i miss mine!


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