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    geolover's XCL is built... check out the stoke !~!

    disclaimer: geolover is a righteous Titus Super Moto man and a good bloke ... but non-Titus content


    It's true !~!

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    Excalent build! Damn those things are beefy.

    Looks terrific Geo!

    Now sale it and get an EG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    Excalent build! Damn those things are beefy.

    Looks terrific Geo!

    Now sale it and get an EG.
    No EG for me...at least not until they fix a few things. Really, the EG weighs the same (basically) as my SuMo, so I'm not sure there is a spot for it in my stable.

    Actually, I really had a few good rides on the XCL. I'm not used to having such a light bike. I could not keep it on the trail due to my speed and overshooting corners! Holy crap you can really haul ass on a 32 pound bike!

    I'm still dialing in the suspension. So far I'm liking the DHXair...the 36 Talas is a different story. To be fair, I haven't played with the adjustments much, so I'm not going to make any judgements yet. I do LOVE the 3-position travel adust! Perfect travel for climbing, trail riding and the steep and deep.

    Sorry, enough of the non-Titus talk.

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    Nice looking bike. How much tire clearance is left in the rear tri?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Nice looking bike. How much tire clearance is left in the rear tri?

    I don't think theres a seat stay bridge back there? So prob plenty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Nice looking bike. How much tire clearance is left in the rear tri?
    $hit, I forgot to check that! I'm out of town for 3 weeks too.

    Tire clearance should be fine with that tire (2.35 Highroller). Maxxis run small. I'm going to try my Nevegal 2.5 in there when I get home...I bet they fit.
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    The HighRoller runs fairly true or large when compared to other Maxxis tires. I've got that, Ignitors, Nevegals, and Rampages all side by side and it's roughly on the bigger end of things with the Nev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    The HighRoller runs fairly true or large when compared to other Maxxis tires. I've got that, Ignitors, Nevegals, and Rampages all side by side and it's roughly on the bigger end of things with the Nev.
    Hmm, that's good to know. I'm now confident that a 2.5 will fit easily.

    This is my first experience with the High Roller...I like it.
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    What are you running up front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    What are you running up front?
    That would be a Spesh pro D2.

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    Nice dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    Nice dude!

    Do we know you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    That would be a Spesh pro D2.
    what do you think of those?

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    Never tried them...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    what do you think of those?

    But I'd be curious to know myself. They look tough, and I've heard good things.

    I may have read FM didn't like them though.... just occured to me.... could be wrong?

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    very nice build, geolover!

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    Nice, Geo!!!

    Did your wife wanted to hang something on the wall and needed space??

    BA&JC... Those tyres look like Spesh Enduro Pro D2. FM used to like them, IIRC. I've never been on them, but Spesh does some fine rubber. I'd love to try the new Resolution, the old is very nice and the Roll-X amongst my favorite rears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    what do you think of those?
    I'm undecided on those as of yet...since I'm a little new on the bike I've noticed my positioning has tended to be more rear wheel biased (read: riding scared ). This has caused a few washouts of the front wheel in corners...I believe this will change as I gain confidence on the bike.

    The tire rolls very well and it looks to be a true 2.4...it's also relatively cheap ($35) and dual compound; 60 middle, 50 sides. I didn't weigh it, but claimed weight is 785g.

    I'd like to try the Specialized Chunder 2.3 (1-ply). The tread design looks like the High Roller. I also have my eye on the Hutch Barracuda...JC, let us know if you end up trying that tire out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I've noticed my positioning has tended to be more rear wheel biased (read: riding scared ). This has caused a few washouts of the front wheel in corners...I believe this will change as I gain confidence on the bike.
    You have SuMo rider syndrome. you are screwd get into attack position.and stay there....


    The tire rolls very well and it looks to be a true 2.4...it's also relatively cheap ($35) and dual compound; 60 middle, 50 sides. I didn't weigh it, but claimed weight is 785g.

    I'd like to try the Specialized Chunder 2.3 (1-ply). The tread design looks like the High Roller. I also have my eye on the Hutch Barracuda...JC, let us know if you end up trying that tire out.
    Spesh Enduro Pro absolutly rip in losse conditions. the tall lugs really dig. on hard pack the tall lugs can fold.

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    Hey Geo....what's the Hammer for...assembling the bike or beating you into shape???

    Nice build dude...it looks like a Horst rear end. Be interested in hearing about stiffness and response (active, not active). I'm in the process of comparing an Intense VPP 6.6 to my Foes FXR right now. Always good to have other benchmarks for 32lb 6" travel bikes.

    Let us know what ya think when you roll it and smoke it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropin%Dug
    Hey Geo....what's the Hammer for...assembling the bike or beating you into shape???
    Prototype Seal Club...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropin%Dug
    Hey Geo....what's the Hammer for...assembling the bike or beating you into shape???
    I carry the Hammer around to bash stray and unruly single pivot riders into the dirt. Also works as a nice response to stupid questions....

    Nice build dude...it looks like a Horst rear end. Be interested in hearing about stiffness and response (active, not active). I'm in the process of comparing an Intense VPP 6.6 to my Foes FXR right now. Always good to have other benchmarks for 32lb 6" travel bikes.
    It's a Horst. Stiffness is excellent. It is very active and it climbs great. I have experienced zero stiffening of the rear end under braking. So far so good. Have only had 4 rides on it. BTW, it's not a 6" travel bike...it is 5.

    Let us know what ya think when you roll it and smoke it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Prototype Seal Club...


    ...or Caribou Pleasuring Device???
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover


    ...or Caribou Pleasuring Device???
    The rubber handle would need reshaping... and that would work against seal clubbing capabilities.

    Looks small for caribou, also...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    The rubber handle would need reshaping... and that would work against seal clubbing capabilities.

    Looks small for caribou, also...
    Hey whatever...you're the expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Hey whatever...you're the expert.

    The Caribou Whisperer.
    You're right... I should have never questioned your knowledge about caribou; Caribou Jedi Master.

    My apologies..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    You're right... I should have never questioned your knowledge about caribou; Caribou Jedi Master.

    My apologies..

    Yup, I have a black-belt in Caribou.

    Bow to your Sensei.
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    Enduro Pro tyres have a weak floppy sidewall. You will break your neck and I would rather cut myself then use them on DH situations.

    Stop being weight conscious and man up the front tyre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Stop being weight conscious and man up the front tyre.
    Yeah... that ride deserves a Big Betty. Man up. Chad will be happy to help. Best prices on Schwalbes on this side of the Atlantic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Yeah... that ride deserves a Big Betty. Man up. Chad will be happy to help. Best prices on Schwalbes on this side of the Atlantic.
    Big Betty's are for sissies.

    Your riding ability might need a crutch like that, but people with skills (like BA and myself) can use whatever tire we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    the 36 Talas is a different story. To be fair, I haven't played with the adjustments much, so I'm not going to make any judgements yet. I do LOVE the 3-position travel adust! Perfect travel for climbing, trail riding and the steep and deep.
    Ride faster….

    Small bump compliance is a crutch for the slow and timid….. That fork really opens up when you are flat out pounding thru rock gardens….

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    ...Small bump compliance is a crutch for the slow and timid….
    Typical fanboy excuse.

    If it can't handle it, just admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Big Betty's are for sissies.

    Your riding ability might need a crutch like that, but people with skills (like BA and myself) can use whatever tire we want.
    I hate you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Typical fanboy excuse.

    If it can't handle it, just admit it.
    at least have your daddy ride it over a few curbs before you give up on it..

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    Oh so you really are into that "other" pleasure device!!!
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    mate, why the twisties ?~?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    mate, why the twisties ?~?

    I need to go back to good old grip shifts. You can dump a $hit load of gears in a hurry! Just rev that baby like a motorcycle vrrrroooooom!!!!

    Twisties ROCK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Big Betty's are for sissies.

    Your riding ability might need a crutch like that, but people with skills (like BA and myself) can use whatever tire we want.
    I'm glad I didn't have to tell him first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    mate, why the twisties ?~?
    Well, it was an experiment. I've never used them. Also, people tend to blindly hate them...which usually means it will turn out to be great (always go opposite of the mob).

    In this case, I was right. I really dig the twisties...I think I'm gonna switch out the SuMo as well. Growing up on moto's I really like the "grab a handfull" effect. Plus, the coolest feature of twisties...the front shifter has 10 positions to adjust the front deraileur...not 3 like triggers. Brilliant!

    No more bashed/bruised knees.

    I also think they are lighter...but not sure on that...and really, that is just a little frosting.

    Brake lever is in perfect position for one finger braking.

    I'm a convert.
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    I've ALWAYS used grip shifts since back in 1999 or there abouts when I built the Animal. Never understood why folks thought using your thumb was a good idea.
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    i tried twisties and they are about as good as a warm lager

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    i tried twisties and they are about as good as a warm lager

    AM...you crack me up....well they ain't as problematic as trying to unzip your fly after one too many of dem dar warm lagers... Thumbs who needs 'em!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    i tried twisties and they are about as good as a warm lager
    To each his own.

    I was prepared not to like them, but the opposite is true.

    BTW, I don't have a problem drinking warm lager...after all, it's still beer. And beer is good.
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    Nice that the twisties worked out for you after getting them and not knowing.

    Your Chumba looks real sharp... and agile with those short chainstays.

    What boost pressure do you like in the DHX A piggy ?~? I would think it would be fairly low based based on the design of the XCL suspension.

    Is the BO fully wound out, or will you need to reduce the BO volume (not sure how much fun you plan to have on it, or the linkage rate) ?~?

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    That's one of the things I miss most about gripshift. It's the best set up for one finger bracking. I like to grab the curved end of the lever, and the twisties get the lever that perfect distance form my hand so I can just pull


    AM if you didn't like them you were mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness

    AM if you didn't like them you were mistaken.
    oh crap... AM you gotta "adjust" your taste now (I never liked twisties either )

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    oh crap... AM you gotta "adjust" your taste now (I never liked twisties either )
    I just don't like rotating grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Your Chumba looks real sharp... and agile with those short chainstays.

    What boost pressure do you like in the DHX A piggy ?~? I would think it would be fairly low based based on the design of the XCL suspension.

    Is the BO fully wound out, or will you need to reduce the BO volume (not sure how much fun you plan to have on it, or the linkage rate) ?~?
    Thanks AM
    Boost pressure is low...about 110, I think. BO was wound to max "+" (recommended by ChumbaJason), but I backed it out to about half-way (just a guess). I don't remember what is in the main chamber. I had something close to my body weight, but it didn't feel good. So I let a little "psshhttt" out. I have no idea of the real measurements, but the shock feels pretty good and I haven't bottomed it out yet.

    I'm not totally satisfied with the DHXair yet, but I'm still playing with it...am keen to see the new Marz stuff coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    I just don't like rotating grips.
    I was concerned about this as well, but being moto trained it doesn't seem to bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Thanks AM
    Boost pressure is low...about 110, I think. BO was wound to max "+" (recommended by ChumbaJason), but I backed it out to about half-way (just a guess). I don't remember what is in the main chamber. I had something close to my body weight, but it didn't feel good. So I let a little "psshhttt" out. I have no idea of the real measurements, but the shock feels pretty good and I haven't bottomed it out yet.

    I'm not totally satisfied with the DHXair yet, but I'm still playing with it...am keen to see the new Marz stuff coming out.
    Try to drop pressure down to 95 or 100 and maybe wind the BO to 2/3 out. Constipation Pedal off of course (well you may need it climbing to support the mid-stroke). Obviously I'm an XCL pro suspension tuner....

    PUSH will announce ROCO news next week I think

    The 08 Roco Air with piggy looks good but it will be big stroke stoke only I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    The 08 Roco Air with piggy looks good but it will be big stroke stoke only I think.
    Hmmm, that would be most unfortunate....
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