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    Excited to be part of the following! Got a NEW Motolite!

    After a few threads and asking questions about multiple bikes, I have officially upgraded from my '01 Trek Fuel 98 to a BRAND NEW 2008 Titus Motolite! I'm really excited, and I had a lot of consulting from "DaGoat" before I made my purchase.

    It's got a full XT build, Talas fork, Avid Juicy carbon breaks...all brand new! I can't wait for Spring to get here! This is it...tell me what you guys think. I got what I guess one could call a "hell of a deal."


















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    Looks great. Now the ride the hell out of it!
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    Very nice. Mine should be here Monday.

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    Congrats to you too, ironlegs! Gotta show us when you get it.

    I literally just got it off Ebay from a stellar-seller, and I probably won't see it for a couple of weeks.

    And just for comparison and consideration, I got the bike fully complete for $2000...

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    Congrats. I have the 2007 ML with an identical original build (the only difference I can see is mine had Juicy 7's not Carbon). I remember when that blue first came out....may it's a good looking color.

    I think you'll love this bike, it's a been a great one for me. Experiment with fork and shock pressures, I found even minor changes on both to have very noticeable effects on the ML ride experience.

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    It's an 07' I got off ebay last weekend.

    http://passmore.zenfolio.com/p102982...c9c3#h3392c9c3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebeer
    Congrats. I have the 2007 ML with an identical original build (the only difference I can see is mine had Juicy 7's not Carbon). I remember when that blue first came out....may it's a good looking color.

    I think you'll love this bike, it's a been a great one for me. Experiment with fork and shock pressures, I found even minor changes on both to have very noticeable effects on the ML ride experience.

    I'll definitely play with the settings this Winter so tuning won't take so long in the Spring to get her dialed in. And yes, that blue looks purdy in the pictures.

    I guess since you have pretty much the exact bike, maybe you can help me start...

    I'm 5'11" and weigh about 177 lbs. I like for the rear suspension to be sort of stiff, yet able to load easily to get it off the ground. Do you have any suggestions as to what kind of air pressure I should start off with?

    I hope I will love this bike as much as everyone else has raved about it. I haven't even riden it yet, much less a Titus before; this however doesn't make me nervous about getting it. I haven't ridden hard since college (4 years ago) but this is going to give me the excuse to get out every weekend and hit the mountains. It will take me while to figure out what I don't like, if anything, since I haven't ridden avidly in so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironlegsracer
    It's an 07' I got off ebay last weekend.

    http://passmore.zenfolio.com/p102982...c9c3#h3392c9c3

    LOL! I was looking at getting that exact bike too! Very clean and love that black frame. I think you got a great deal on that one too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by radials
    I guess since you have pretty much the exact bike, maybe you can help me start...

    I'm 5'11" and weigh about 177 lbs. I like for the rear suspension to be sort of stiff, yet able to load easily to get it off the ground. Do you have any suggestions as to what kind of air pressure I should start off with?
    We have a very similar height/weight. I ride a size Large 2007 ML. As far as rear shock goes, get the thing Push'd when it's ready for service. Perhaps add the large volume air can to it as well. It will spoil you in the best way possible. I've noticed I don't have to run the high pressures I thought I needed previously. In fact, I let the sag go over 30% and just run it in ProPedal #2 most of the time.

    You're going to love your Titus. In my experience, right around 120mm (give or take 10mm) is the perfect sweet spot for forks on the ML. I'd recommend going shorter with the stem and wider with the bars unless you're pretty much just using it for racing. Have fun!

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    What yeahgog31 said. My RP23 was PUSH'd and I'm now a believer. I run the shock at 30% and rarely use the ProPedal option (maybe for road climbs only).

    I run the Talas in 140mm the vast majority of the time.

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    Awesome! Thanks for the advice, gentlemen!

    The bike will have to be assembled anyway, so I figured I might as well have the rear shock Pushed during the build, and might as well add the large volume can at the same time.

    I'll play with the fork as well. Since my Trek is so ancient, all these newer components are going to take me some time to really feel out, and become a more conscious and in-tune rider with the bike. Back in '02 when I first got my Fuel, I didn't care about anything; just wanted a FS bike and I loved the geometry at first site with the Trek. I bought one, and moreover adjusted to the bike rather than the bike adjusting to me...

    I'll be reading up a lot on here throughout most of the winter, as I'm not one that likes cold weather riding too much. Most of the REAL riding won't take place until early Spring.

    Thanks for all the help, guys. I look forward to learning a lot from everyone!

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    Makes me wish i hadn't sold mine. Great bikes.
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    Juicy Carbon Breaks?

    Well lets hope they dont break! Actually you have XT brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigstr
    Well lets hope they dont break! Actually you have XT brakes.
    You're right! I looked right at the pictures and it never even snapped...oh, and what should I worry about breaking?

    The description in the auction said Avid juicey carbon breaks and levers, but the pictures do in fact show different...hmm...are the Avids better quality wise than the XTs?

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    Toss up

    Juicy's would have carbon levers and be a little lighter. But either brake would work well for that application. I'd ask for some money back and say the item wasnt what was described.

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    I might do that...do you see any other "errors" that differentiate from the description to the pictures? I now notice that the handle bars aren't Titus either, and is that even a Chris King headset...? Here is the list from the exact description from the auction:


    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.9

    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT

    Shifters: SRAM X.9 Trigger

    Brake Lever: Avid Juicy Carbon

    Brakes: Avid Juicy Carbon Disc

    Crankset: Shimano XT

    Bottom Bracket: Shimano XT

    Chain: Shimano HG 93

    Cassette: Shimano XT 11-34

    Wheels: DT XR4.1 Disc

    Tires: Kenda Kevlar

    Handlebar: Titus 7075 Pro Riser

    Grips: WTB Technical Trail Grip

    Stem: Titus Machined

    Headset: Chris King

    Seatpost: Titus Micro-Adjust

    Saddle: Titus Ti Rail

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    Quote Originally Posted by radials
    You're right! I looked right at the pictures and it never even snapped...oh, and what should I worry about breaking?

    The description in the auction said Avid juicey carbon breaks and levers, but the pictures do in fact show different...hmm...are the Avids better quality wise than the XTs?
    With Titus going out of business (though picked up by On One) I'd be worried about getting spare parts for the frame.
    It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required.

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    I'd consider the XT brakes an upgrade over any Avid hydro I've ever used, and the bar is a Titus (Maxm is their house brand).

    As for the headset, looks like it may be a Cane Creek as opposed to a Chris King

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    The XTs will get the job done. No worries there.

    If there's a "break" in the weather---ride that hell out of it.
    Else you'll be full of regret by the first spring ride for missing out so much

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    Just razzing you

    Quote Originally Posted by radials
    what should I worry about breaking?
    You said in your OP that it had "Avid juicy carbon breaks". You mispelled it, correct spelling is "brakes". The cane creek headset is quite a bit less $$$ then a King. I'd ask the seller for a couple hundred bucks back, he mis-advertised the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigstr
    You said in your OP that it had "Avid juicy carbon breaks". You mispelled it, correct spelling is "brakes". The cane creek headset is quite a bit less $$$ then a King. I'd ask the seller for a couple hundred bucks back, he mis-advertised the bike.
    Oh...whoops. I guess I got my first citation from the Grammer Police. That's OK, I get my balls busted, I'm sure you can handle it too. I guess my mind quit working there for a minute or the flicker rate of the monitor was altering the firing of my neural network...it's all good.

    After looking into it, the Chris King headset is quite a bit more money than the CC. I'm checking into these issues now with the seller. Thanks for the investigative help, Sir.

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    sweet looking bike. sending the shock to push is a great idea. I've heard they have a special MotoLite tune.

    I didn't get the high volume sleeve, so it's not necessarily part of the mod. According to Push, some people like it, some don't. I'm pretty happy with the normal volume sleeve, but I use my ML as my XC bike. If it were my one bike, I'd probably prefer the higher volume version.

    The seller was pretty far off on the description:

    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.9 ----> Shimano

    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT

    Shifters: SRAM X.9 Trigger ----> Shimano

    Brake Lever: Avid Juicy Carbon ------> Shimano

    Brakes: Avid Juicy Carbon Disc -----> Shimano and not carbon

    Crankset: Shimano XT

    Bottom Bracket: Shimano XT

    Chain: Shimano HG 93

    Cassette: Shimano XT 11-34

    Wheels: DT XR4.1 Disc -----> DT x455 disc there is no mention of the hubs...

    Tires: Kenda Kevlar

    Handlebar: Titus 7075 Pro Riser

    Grips: WTB Technical Trail Grip

    Stem: Titus Machined

    Headset: Chris King -----> Cane Creek

    Seatpost: Titus Micro-Adjust

    Saddle: Titus Ti Rail


    The seller probably doesn't know much about bikes, and just cut/pasted someone else's description. Still, this is very bad form. I'd be interested to see how they make it right. Good luck!

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    Once again, thanks for all the help guys on all of my "noob" questions.

    But...it turns out I won't be getting the bike after all...

    After I sent an email questioning the build specs and contradictions of the description and pictures, I was sent an email from the wife of husband who's bike it was. She stated that her husband was now refusing to sell me the bike since he would lose so much money on the deal, and that she listed the price far too low then that of which she should have. Yes, it is a killer deal, but that's the risk you take when selling on Ebay. The auciton started at $2k, the Buy it Now was listed at $3,200. I was the only one that bid...

    The auction was indeed a no reserve auction, and I won the bike on all fair accounts. Very disappointing...very, very, disappointing.

    So now the hunt continues, unfortunately. But maybe there's a better deal out there, who knows.

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    Mucho Motolites

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    Down to one left.
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    I was also looking at the polished 2009 that's on there from Florida. I made him an offer and he came back with a good offer but it was too late. I had already bought the black one. It's a very nice bike too.
    He relisted it but I don't think it sold.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...STRK:MEWAX:VRI

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    Quote Originally Posted by radials
    But...it turns out I won't be getting the bike after all...

    The auction was indeed a no reserve auction, and I won the bike on all fair accounts. Very disappointing...very, very, disappointing.
    I hope you leave lots of bad feedback and report the seller to eBay. Bummer, man!
    Maybe you can use this time to actually throw a leg over a ML. At your height -- 5'11" -- you're pretty close to size Large I would think. Maybe try a few out and see which you actually like better.

    And just like anything, if it SEEMS too good to be true, it probably is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironlegsracer
    I was also looking at the polished 2009 that's on there from Florida. I made him an offer and he came back with a good offer but it was too late. I had already bought the black one. It's a very nice bike too.
    He relisted it but I don't think it sold.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...STRK:MEWAX:VRI
    I saw that one too. I spoke to him a couple of times, but wasn't sure about going with it. There's actually a black one on there right now with all XTR comps.

    Who knows...this does give me a chance to acutally ride a M and L to make sure I'm getting the right one. I don't want to rush my decision, but I kind of am. I don't want to wait till Spring because I "assume" most of the deals won't be deals anymore because of higher demand.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeahdog31
    I hope you leave lots of bad feedback and report the seller to eBay. Bummer, man!
    Maybe you can use this time to actually throw a leg over a ML. At your height -- 5'11" -- you're pretty close to size Large I would think. Maybe try a few out and see which you actually like better.

    And just like anything, if it SEEMS too good to be true, it probably is.
    Oh I plan on it!

    I even spoke to the guy on the phone Friday, the day I won it. I wanted to at least speak to a human before I sent that kind of money over the web through Paypal. I could hear it in his voice that he was edgey about wanting to let it go for what the auction ended at. I just KNEW this was going to happen, and he would make up some excuse.

    I still deserved it, though. Hell I've sold stuff on there not getting as much money as I had hoped and I still went through with it; expensive items too.

    He obviously knows what he's doing too, as most of the sales from the user name, "newarc" are bicycle products so...

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    See what Bob can come up for you.
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    Meridian Idaho...

    Found on craigslist, call this guy...

    http://boise.craigslist.org/bik/2122487388.html

    or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotten1
    Found on craigslist, call this guy...

    http://boise.craigslist.org/bik/2122487388.html

    or not...
    Looks like a great deal!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotten1
    Found on craigslist, call this guy...

    http://boise.craigslist.org/bik/2122487388.html

    or not...
    WOW! That's exremely cheap!

    Hmm...calling now...

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    I just talked to him. Guy sounds legit, and he's got 3 other bikes on CL as well. A SC Heckler, Cannondale, and something else...

    Not a scratch on it, and he's hardly ridden it; he's the second owner...

    Dude said he'd throw on the 32 Talas that's on his SC for a bit more money.

    I'm still gonna check with Biker Bob as well since he reached out to help me too.

    Thanks a lot for that link, rotten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by radials
    I just talked to him. Guy sounds legit, and he's got 3 other bikes on CL as well. A SC Heckler, Cannondale, and something else...

    Not a scratch on it, and he's hardly ridden it; he's the second owner...

    Dude said he'd throw on the 32 Talas that's on his SC for a bit more money.

    I'm still gonna check with Biker Bob as well since he reached out to help me too.

    Thanks a lot for that link, rotten!
    that's a 2006

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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr
    that's a 2006
    Yeah, it looked like it had an aluminum rocker and stays. But still a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    Yeah, it looked like it had an aluminum rocker and stays. But still a great deal.

    indeed. But, I would be worried about the weak point on the seatstays at the driveside tube's pinch.

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    Mine came today. Got it assembeld and test rode it in the yard. Very plush. I think it'll be a nice ride. Find out this weekend.The shifter/brake lever combo will be new to me. Although I haven't done anything to verify the year. This seller was accurate on the description. Here's it's parts list.YEAR: 2007
    COLOR: BLACK ANODIZED

    SIZE: MEDIUM
    WEIGHT: UNKNOWN MAYBE 24 LBS
    FRAME: 4" & 5" TRAVEL ADJUSTABLE
    FORK: FOX 32 FLOAT RL, 130MM TRAVEL
    REAR SHOCK: FOX FLOAT RP23, 7.5"X1.5"
    FRONT DERAILEUR: SHIMANO XTR
    REAR DERAILEUR: SHIMANO XTR
    SHIFTERS: SHIMANO XTR
    BRAKE LEVERS: SHIMANO XTR
    BRAKES: SHIMANO XTR/160MM ROTORS
    CHAIN: KMC 9 SPEED
    CRANKSET: SHIMANO XTR, 175MM
    CASETTE: SRAM PG-970, 11/34T, 9 SPEED
    PEDALS: SHIMANO SPD CLIPLESS
    BOTTOM BRACKET: SHIMANO XTR

    HEADSET: CHRIS KING
    SADLE: WTB ROCKET V W/ CROMOLY RAILS
    SEATPOST: RACE FACE, 27.2MM
    HANDLEBARS: YETI, LOW RISE, CARBON FIBER, 25.4MM CLAMP
    GRIPS: ODI LOCK ON SPECIAL EDITION
    STEM: Forte 90MM, 25.4MM CLAMP
    TIRES: PANARACER, FRONT & REAR
    WHEELSET: MAVIC CROSSRIDE
    BOTTLECAGE : PROFILE DESIGNS CARBON











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    Yeah, that's a beautiful bike, iron. Are those the pictures you took of it in your possession? I almost bought that one, but decided to wait on the blue one. Apparently a bad idea...

    I'm kinda glad the deal didn't go though. The more I look at these bikes, the more really think I'm going to need a Large. My Trek is a 19.5" (M for that year), and I want something closer to the 18-18.5"; the large Moto is a 19". I still haven't ridden a Moto, so maybe this was an omen telling me I really need to get on one before I pull the trigger.

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    Those are the auction pics. It don't look as good in my computer room.LOL. A medium is a pretty big size. It's in good shape. I will tweak it some.

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    How tall are you? If you possibly could, what is the measurement from the center of your seat to the end (front) of the stem?

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    I think the medium ML is 18.5 inch seat tube. Kinda big in comparison to say a Speci SJ medium which is 17.5 inches.

    Edit: Just checked specs and its ST is 19.25. Ooopps my bad.
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    You bet.

    I live in Boise (which is the city next to Meridian) and if asked nicely enough, I can go take a look at that ML for wear, cracks and what not. Maybe ride it around the block. Blast it down some hills. Take it off a few jumps, you know, show my mad skills.


    Quote Originally Posted by radials
    I just talked to him. Guy sounds legit, and he's got 3 other bikes on CL as well. A SC Heckler, Cannondale, and something else...

    Not a scratch on it, and he's hardly ridden it; he's the second owner...

    Dude said he'd throw on the 32 Talas that's on his SC for a bit more money.

    I'm still gonna check with Biker Bob as well since he reached out to help me too.

    Thanks a lot for that link, rotten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotten1
    I live in Boise (which is the city next to Meridian) and if asked nicely enough, I can go take a look at that ML for wear, cracks and what not. Maybe ride it around the block. Blast it down some hills. Take it off a few jumps, you know, show my mad skills.

    I'd be forever greatful if you would go down and check it out! I'd be happy to cover your gas, buy you lunch, and take care of a hospital bill or two when you test it off a 10ft drop...

    The guy seems like he's knowledgable and if I get it with the Talas fork it would be $300 more. The deal is still pretty good.

    Let us know if things pan out for the ride, good Sir!

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    So Radials.... wazzup? I got your message that the sweet Ebay Deal evaporated. The guys girlfriend is the one who posted and she didn't put a reserve on it? Is that what they said? Pretty lame, but what the heck. Can't fault the guy I guess for not wanting to part with such a nice bike for the price you got it for.

    So where you at now? I'll keep my eyes out for ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaGoat
    So Radials.... wazzup? I got your message that the sweet Ebay Deal evaporated. The guys girlfriend is the one who posted and she didn't put a reserve on it? Is that what they said? Pretty lame, but what the heck. Can't fault the guy I guess for not wanting to part with such a nice bike for the price you got it for.

    So where you at now? I'll keep my eyes out for ya!
    I could fault him. You mean he never looked at the listing? You mean they couldn't have ended or revised the listing in a weeks time? That was wrong to have done you that way period, no matter what the excuse. You calling him just gave him the opportunity to backout is what I think, and he took it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironlegsracer
    I could fault him...
    Don't disagree, to me once you complete an auction on Ebay or anywhere else, it's a binding contract... tough to enforce though if the guy isn't going to follow through. Definitely wack his feedback though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbob.com
    Once upon a time I had a bunch of Motolites. I loved them all...
    Holy cow, I think I'd call that a "fetish"....

    So Bob, how are you with the Planet-X buyout? You still gonna be a rep?
    Dug-Da-Goat

    Something changes at 12,000'
    ...so welcome to the Odyssey!

    Building your trails at FooMTB

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