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    The elusive El Guapo 29

    It's been months since we've seen photos of the prototype EG 29. Any news? What's the word?

    Also, any word on finish choices? I am really liking the Super Raw on the Mk3 EGs...

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    I hope it takes another year now. if I buy another EG i'm gonna have to sell the jeep or something.
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    According to Brant's twitter on Shedfire the prototype has been lost in the post..

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    Tooling is being made for the revised chainstay bridge and dropout parts.
    Production is ordered.
    I'm hoping we'll see something in November.

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    Any hints on sizes? Going to be an XL in the works, or sticking with the S,M,L sizings along similar lines as the 26" El Gaupo and Rockstar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Tooling is being made for the revised chainstay bridge and dropout parts.
    Production is ordered.
    I'm hoping we'll see something in November.
    so the bridge will not be as we see here ?
    Spotted: Prototype Titus El Guapo 29er – Big Travel Budget Brawler! - Bike Rumor

    more room ?
    eventually 140 travel ?
    will I be able to fit my readyforelguapo29er 135mm rear wheel set?

    I know you cant answer
    cant wait !!!

    cheers

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    Bridge is being retooled as I shortened the chainstays. The original sample used the same 26in chainstay bridge. The new one uses a new one. Chainstays are down to 458mm from the 471 on the sample.
    Also changed are seat angle and top tube length.
    Travel is 140mm
    Rear axle is 142x12, Shimano E-Thru-type.

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    So you can answer....with

    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Bridge is being retooled as I shortened the chainstays. The original sample used the same 26in chainstay bridge. The new one uses a new one.
    - perfect answer

    Chainstays are down to 458mm from the 471 on the sample.
    - perfect answer
    Also changed are seat angle and top tube length.
    that's very interesting
    I ll take it as you shorten the reach...so
    - soooo perfect answer
    Travel is 140mm
    - perfect answer

    Rear axle is 142x12, Shimano E-Thru-type.
    yeah I know...trends.. : P ...I think I can address that

    how i like it when someone answer in a perfect way hahaha

    thx Brant
    cheers

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    I ll take as you shorten the reach...so
    - soooo perfect answer
    Actually, no. I have another plan. But more on that in a bit :-)

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    I'm really not a 29er type but looking at the bits and pieces of info....hmmmm might change my mind now.

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    I smell an ultra short stem then and new ultra budget wide bars , at least for me.

    just hope I ll be able to fit some some 3x crankset down there that I already have....
    else cant do the maths..
    Difficult times for a proper new one, very difficult...

    and if I manage to fit and my bottom swing sram 7 FD i ll be very lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean_29 View Post
    I smell an ultra short stem then and new ultra budget wide bars , at least for me.

    just hope I ll be able to fit some some 3x crankset down there that I already have....
    else cant do the maths..
    Difficult times for a proper new one, very difficult...

    and if I manage to fit and my bottom swing sram 7 FD i ll be very lucky.
    Yes to a short stem.
    I'm sure a triple will fit.
    FD is a high direct mount style.

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    direct mount hu?

    Belive it when I see it in the store.....
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    On a second thought and keeping in mind that is more difficult to change balance on 29er than 26" for known reasons, maybe its better to have the weight a little more rear, than you would except to find in some AM 26ers. Maybe its better to have a little longer top tube with a shorter stem. Αpart from accuracy, it would help the fork on descends in plenty of situations (e.g. less rapid dives) and the OTB, and help rider to find the right balance. On 26" short reach is playful but on 29er its not the case.

    A real challenge it would be to see if a 29er 140mm travel sus. system, would handle the rough trails with the same speed as a 150mm 26er before the bottom out of its less travel. Bigger wheels cant replace mm of travel in rough technical terrains, and as speed gets higher on these terrains the angle of attack and impact of a bigger wheel does not play role but a 29er suspension design could help so as to the exhaust of travel happen less easily than some 26"AM frames. (different suspension kinematics)
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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Actually, no. I have another plan. But more on that in a bit :-)
    Moar reach...and more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    direct mount hu?

    Belive it when I see it in the store.....
    wonder if it will be like the pic.. and if the iscg gets recessed or removed?

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    With all the issues on the v,1,2,3 I hope it atleast gets recessed on the 29'r v1.
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    Funny, the old ISCG 05 url is gone and replaced with this:
    http://www.iscg.org/iscg-05_standard.pdf
    It now shows a 2.5mm recession and is dated 12/11, the old page was from 2005. So I guess ISCG 05 is updated and should be called ISCG 11.

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    Nov. not far away

    Also wondering leverage ratio here.. will EG still accept the coil shock?

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    Or should it be iscg05 v2.
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    I ve seen some prototype photos of this bike with crest rims and some skinny tires, i think the beavers...ok 29er with this kind of wheelset on a "long travel" 29er might work on some kind of wet uk terrain with a very light rider, but it would be flexy for sure in some many others situations.

    Wondering how could be this bike with some real rubber like Hans dampfs to help a little the rear 140mm traver, hope for enough rear clearance for that. Also more stiff rims than crests...right now i m balancing between this frame and an other 160mm 26" frame, but i d like to stick with the big wheels...


    I also found this, but nothing really new

    Summer Forecast on Vimeo

    Ok, Ed 36mm stanchions might help but would cost more than my car especially in 29er version and with that high cost someone could lean more easily in a real AM-Enduro 26" or 650b...also 36mm means more weight and i find too much 36mm
    with only 140mm travel...usual rider will not take full advantage of that kind of stiff stanchions with only 140mm...36mm would mean heavy AM use but you ll be out of travel there... deadlock here

    i suppose more info in eurobike
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    ISCG MK3 ; )

    a slack 36ed 29, I would buy !t today

    Last edited by Deerhill; 08-28-2012 at 09:07 AM.

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    what is written on its horn? Guapo 29er?
    Last edited by ocean_29; 08-27-2012 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean_29 View Post
    what is it written on its horn? Guapo 29er?
    Pretty sure it says "GuapStar."

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    we need more info /photos
    Last edited by Deerhill; 08-28-2012 at 03:23 PM.

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