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    El Guapo sin agua

    no bottle bosses on downtube!

    oh noes. i'm serious though, i have camelbaks but don't like using them for water!

    anyone drilled some in? or recommend some strap-ons?

    thought this was a desert bike. currently hot as hell in the UK

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    I'm unsure where you'd fit a water bottle boss that doesn't interfere with shock or linkage action. Except under the down tube, which is completely pointless.

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    eeeeh why is that pointless brant?

    edit: i never liked using that cage on my old frame, but sometimes had to for long rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiff View Post
    eeeeh why is that pointless brant?
    Gets covered in muck or smacked by/into rocks.

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    would be nice to have the option though? something for v4 pehaps?

    think of it as a downtube protector.

    for me now though.. i need some kind of strap on solution. surely some Guapo owners have done some mods here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiff View Post
    would be nice to have the option though? something for v4 pehaps?

    for me though.. i need some kind of strap on solution.
    Fill your boots and drill away. Rivnuts are easy to install.

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    ok well any advice on avoiding stress fractures, where best to drill, please? very nervous about taking drill to such a nice frame..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiff View Post
    ok well any advice on avoiding stress fractures, where best to drill, please? very nervous about taking drill to such a nice frame..
    It's actually probably a bit fiddly drilling down low on the underside of the downtube, as the tube goes to an angle there. Or if you can drill holes, then adding rivnuts could be hard. Hmm.. Will have a look in morning.

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    ok i won't do anything for now, thanks for looking at this!
    i've had problems with other bikes with those nuts rotating anyway, might prefer a strap solution to be honest..
    could have sworn i saw "bosses: 1" listed somewhere.

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    Why not one of the seat tube mounted cages.
    "I'm the fastest of the slow guys"

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    thought about that. two things 1) want to use dropper post
    2) weight lower down is better

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    I use a seatpost mounted strap on with and adjustable post, works fine on long rides. I usually burn through the bottle on the climb then take the whole thing off for the DH and throw it in my pack. Why not get a jersey with a pocket and out a bottle in there? I wouldnt drill a hole in my frame anywhere, well except the bottom of the bb shell so that the water drains out.

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    haha. in England we do lots of little climbs and descents
    thanks though. seatpost might be the way to go, can you recommend a firm mount?

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    how about a waist pouch with bottle like salomon/camelbak is selling? am thinking of the salomon one myself.

    i wont want to drill holes on the downtube too. and i think with the kind of riding EG is built for, having water bottle at the down tube strap or bosss wont be good.. too much dirt and any hit on anything will gonna dent the tube.

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    bolt some extender from the tabs on up the downtube

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    kingcage.com sells a headset top cap ($8) that replaces your top cap on the headset. You then mount a bottle cage to his top cap. I have one on one of my bikes that i do long rides on, so that i can carry 3 bottles, but the one on the top cap bugs me cause it takes up so much room.

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    yeah no thanks to stem mount (steering, crashing etc.).

    DeerhillJ, do you mean using the shock swinger bracket? that could work.
    that Twofish strap on looks like the sort of thing if i can find in UK and it stays where it's put.
    thanks for the ideas guys, any others please post!

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    red rocket

    iscg tabs to support the weight, strip of plastic to protect and a strap to secure up top w/ rubber bumper in beween (something I've been wanting to make but don't know where to get a slim strip type bladder)
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    Did the OP have a particular aversion to Camelbaks?
    I haven't filled a water bottle in 4 years...

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    i have two camelbaks. don't use the bladders though, don't like the weight and they're too much trouble to clean out except for the odd expedition type ride - when you'd want the frame bottle in addition. so now you know

    idea of attaching bladder to frame.. is a bit whacky. bit vulnerable too no?

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    idea of attaching bladder to frame.. is a bit whacky. bit vulnerable too no?
    No more than an outside of the downtube mounted water bottle/cage.
    "I'm the fastest of the slow guys"

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    you think that 2 foot long water sausage.. is no different than a normal water bottle? how are you even going to attach such a long floppy object and drink from it? why not a condom, and a straw? come on

    if the EG had bosses on downtube i'd put a weak plastic cage on there and if i whacked it hard, it'd break off, rather than damage the frame.


    hmmm once i've built the bike, i'll try to figure something out and report back!
    still thinking strap on cage posted above is most workable idea for now, but if i can get two smaller bottles in somewhere that's a possibility.
    Last edited by Smiff; 07-26-2012 at 03:29 PM.

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    Visualize

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiff View Post
    idea of attaching bladder to frame.. is a bit whacky. bit vulnerable too no?
    Al bracket from tabs up the downtube.... bracket straps to dt up top...... bladder supported/attaches to bracket...... plastic sandwiches/protects bladder from rocks.....

    Difficult part would be crescent shaped bladder

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    bottles of fun

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    Thanks for the link, I originally bought mine in Moab and couldn't remember the name.
    I had it for 4 years, and finally broke it this weekend in the High Cascades 100.

    Here is the Carbon Rockstar all dressed for the show.

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