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    Float is nice but for 1/2 pound extra the VANILLA is Buttery smooth. I'd never trade mine for a float.

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    looks too small

    Quote Originally Posted by pbbreath
    Float is nice but for 1/2 pound extra the VANILLA is Buttery smooth. I'd never trade mine for a float.
    need a large. f air, float can suckit
    yoiu got a large w/ 09 van rc2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkle
    I weigh about 175 and am running a 450lb spring with almost no pre-load. Feels very progressive and never bottoms out. Dominator13 weighs about the same as me, and was running a 350 with more preload - a little smoother.

    running 400lb coil with no preload on an 08 DHX with propedal ramped to 10 clicks for trail riding.

    The sag works out to ~25% with the coil ( couldn't do a more exact measurement with the coil getting in the way) yet the tracking of the rear is much better than the RP23 at 30% sag.

    So far no bottom out issues (piggy @ 150psi with a lot of adjustment left to resist further if needed) unlike with the air shock

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    ^^^^^^^ What?

    Here's my bike....08 Medium running an 08 VAN RC2

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den
    running 400lb coil with no preload on an 08 DHX with propedal ramped to 10 clicks for trail riding.

    The sag works out to ~25% with the coil ( couldn't do a more exact measurement with the coil getting in the way) yet the tracking of the rear is much better than the RP23 at 30% sag.

    So far no bottom out issues (piggy @ 150psi with a lot of adjustment left to resist further if needed) unlike with the air shock
    Thanks for the info!! What's your weight?

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    was trying to find out the weight of zx11000s ride but after looking at the pic it seems too small.
    Trying to find out the weight of a large build w/ 36 van RC2 ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerhillOG
    was trying to find out the weight of zx11000s ride but after looking at the pic it seems too small.
    Trying to find out the weight of a large build w/ 36 van RC2 ...
    Sorry for the late response DeerhillOG. My bike is a medium and weighs in at just a tad over 37lbs. The wheelset and tires don't help with the weight and that would be the first place I would concentrate on if I wanted to make it lighter. Oh, and the weight includes the Manitou coil rear shock I had laying around that I installed to replace the Pearl.

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    164-67 lb geared upand loaded

    Quote Originally Posted by john85D
    Thanks for the info!! What's your weight?
    oops! Missed out the most impt reference point earlier

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    8 months on my "do-it-all"......



    Height: 5'9,
    Weight ~165 geared

    Frame: 09 El Guapo Medium
    Fork: TALAS RC2 (2009)--(wishlist, a second fork-- 2010 VAN36RC2)
    Shock: 08 DHX with 400lb coil (wishlist - Diverse Ti Coil), RP23

    Bar : Funn Fatboy Lo-riser, 710mm
    Stem: Titec El Norte Lite 50mm, 0 rise
    Headset: 2010 CaneCreek Xc.II Flush

    Grip : some uber long lock-ons modded with xtra layerings

    Shifters: Shimano XT DCL 08
    Levers: Shimano XT DCL 08
    Calipers: XT 08
    Rotors: 203mm front, 180mm rear
    Skewers: 20mm TA front, CK Heavy Duty Axle rear w/Fun Bolts
    Cables: Shifters - Jagwire
    Cables: Brakes - Goodridge Hydraulic Cables
    Crank: XT 08
    Pedals: Tioga MX Surefoot
    Front Dee: XTR 06 Bottom Swing Dual Pull
    Rear Dee: XT 08 Shadow
    Cassette: XT 12-34
    Chain: XT / PG970

    Clamp: Amoeba Clamp
    Post: KS 900. Cobra (5")
    Saddle: Velo

    Wheelset Front: HopePro II, Rear: Chris King ,
    laceed to DT-Comp Spokes, Spank.Subrosa rims

    Tires F/R Front: Schwalbe Fat Albert 2.35, Rubber Queen 2.4
    Rear: WTB XT Prowler 2.3, Maxxis Ardent 2.25
    Misc: Crud Buster, skins, spacers

    add-ons: E.13 DRS Chain Guide

    Weight: No Idea, not bothered with it anyway

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    Updated pic...



    Other Build Details:

    08 - Fox Van 36 RC2
    08 -DHX Air 5.0
    09 - XT Shifters (With XTR Mod)
    09 - XT Derailleurs
    09 - XT Cassette
    09 - XTR Chain
    08 - LX Cranks
    09 - Hayes Stroker ACE on 8's
    10 - Azonic 28.5" Bars
    09 - Easton 50mm Stem
    08 - Joplin 3"
    etc.etc.etc.etc

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    2009 El Guapo

    2009 Titus El Guapo- Med frame
    Shock- 2010 Fox RP23 w/ Boost Valve
    Fork- 2009 Fox 36 Talas RC2 160mm w/1.5" steerer
    Seatpost- KS i900R adjustable
    Saddle- WTB Rocket V (til Monday when my Transition Park'n Ride AM shows up)

    Wheels- 2008 Easton Havoc AM
    Tires- Maxxis High Rollers 2.35
    Brakes- 2010 Avid Elixer CR w/ 203mm front and 185mm rear

    Cassette- SRAM PG990 9-speed
    Cranks- Shimano XT w/ 36, 22 tooth 170mm
    Chain Guide- E.13 DS
    Bash Guard- E.13 Turbocharger
    Pedals- Crank Bros. 50/50 or Time ATAC Carbon clipless
    Chain- XT
    Front Derailleur- XT
    Rear Derailleur- XTR Long Cage
    Shifters- XT

    Headset Spacers- 15mm
    Headset- Crank Bros. Sage
    Stem- Deity Fantom 1.5
    Bars- Easton Havoc DH 31.8mm clamp
    Grips- ODI Ruffian

    Rider
    height- 5'7"
    inseam- 29"

    I could have gone either way on the frame size. The short stem and seat moved slightly forward places me in the correct position. If I had gone small frame I would've done like my old bike and run the seat back more and gone longer stem. The shorter stem makes it feel a little more responsive in the tight stuff and think I'm happy with the set up.

    Did I miss anything?
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    Very Nice Build!

    Quote Originally Posted by Colddiver98
    Did I miss anything?
    ...yep - ACTION SHOTS!!
    "The secret of joy is the mastery of pain." (Anaïs Nin)

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    [QUOTE=Colddiver98
    Did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]

    Nice! Guess we share similar physiques. Mine's set up pretty much like yours. Have a couple inch more on the inseam, so I could throw the seat a little further back though.

    Just dont tighten that 2 bolts on the chain guide too much (the ones southwest of the bashguard). They break easy.

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    Added a couple more links to the chain and adjusted a little more slack in the rear derailleur after a shakedown cruise in McDonald Forest. Took it out to Black Rock yesterday and what a perfect bike! Rides up easily with the ProPedal and flies great on the downhill and over small jumps and drops (just did Banzai). Will be running back up later this week to try it on on some gnarlier stuff, then hopefully Alpine this weekend.

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    Update to my build.


    Wheels are Hope Pro II with DT EX500 rims and DB spokes. I'm going to try tubeless with the existing tires.
    Bars are Ritchey 10-degree sweep 700mm, stem is a 100mm Truvativ XP [?] or something.
    Rear derailleur changed to a mid-cage rapid rise XT.
    Weight - 30.8 pounds without sealant.

    Soon to be added - KS i950-r adjustable seatpost.

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    Frame: 2007 Titus El Guapo (Small)
    Handle Bar: Truvativ Holzfeller Riser Bar
    Stem: Thomson Elite 70mm
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    Saddle: WTB Shadow V
    Seat Clamp: Hope
    Headset: Chris King Headset w/ Hope spacers
    Grips: Oury Grips with Odi bar end
    Wheelset: Mavic Cross Max SLR
    Fork: '09 Fox Talas 32 RLC
    Rear Shock: Rockshox Pearl 3.1
    Shifters and RD: Shimano SLX
    FD: Shimano SLX
    Crank: Shimano SLX
    Pedal: Truvativ Hollzfeller
    Chain: Sram PC971
    Cogs: Sram PG990 Spider
    Brakes: Avid BB7 with Shimano 8" rotors
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal 2.1 Tubeless



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    Fellow 200+pounder;

    Quote Originally Posted by wasea04
    Large (I'm 5'11'')
    Fox DHX 5.0 with 550# spring (I'm 210 lbs)
    08 Marzocchi 66RC3
    Mavic 729's laced to Hadley hubs
    X9 rear der. and shifters XT front der.
    08 XT cranks with FSA bashguard
    XT cassette and Blackspire stinger chainguide (not yet on)
    Thomson 70mm stem 31.8
    Answer protaper 31.8
    Thomson seatpost
    Avid BB7 mech's (I love mech's!)
    WTB laser v gel
    ODI ruffian grips
    Hutch barracuda 2.5 front, WTB prowler 2.5 rear.
    Shimano D647 clipless pedals (I won't touch CB's, I snapped the axle on my Mallet C of a drop! SCARY!!! In fact I've got footage of it)

    I think that about covers it, the pics speak for themselves, this bike rips
    What kind of sag does the 550# spring give ya? I'm thinking of a coil now.
    Our life is a journey. let it be epic.

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    2008 Titus El Guapo

    El Guapo Set-Up Data Base-img_3864.jpg
    Me - 5'-8" 200 lbs.

    Frame - medium size, black anodized.
    Forks - (2009) Fox 36 TALAS-RC2
    Rear Shock - (2007) Fox DHX Air 5.0
    Seat - "fi'zi:k" Nisene HP
    Seat Post - Race Face - Deus XC (30.9mm)
    Handle Bar - Race Face - Low Riser Evolve AM w/ odi grips
    Stem - Race Face - Evolve AM
    Headset - Race Face - Diabolus
    Bottom Bracket Shimano Deore XT
    Wheels & Hubs - Shimano Deore XT
    Tires - Continental - Mountain King 2.4 Supersonic
    Hydraulic disc brakes and levers - Shimano Deore XT
    Front and rear deraillures - Shimano Deore XT
    Crankset - Shimano Deore XT
    9 speed cassette - Shimano Deore XT
    Pedals Specialized - Direct Drive Titanium - 1996
    Last edited by MB Zipper; 05-25-2010 at 08:44 AM. Reason: Picture added

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    El Guapo Set-Up Data Base-eg_porthills.jpg

    Me - 6'-0" 200 lbs. Inseam 32"

    Frame - 2008 medium size, black anodized.
    Forks - (2009) VAN36 RC2
    Rear Shock - 2008 Fox RP23 (170psi, 2 clicks away from full rebound)
    Seat - WTB Rocket Ti
    Seat Post - GD Turbo
    Handle Bar - Sunline VS One 711mm
    Grips - Odi Rogue
    Stem - Thomson 90mm, 0degree rise
    Headset - Cane Creek 110
    Bottom Bracket – Shimano Deore XT
    Front Wheel - Hope Pro2 laced to DT 5.1d
    Rear Wheel - Hope Pro2 laced to Notubes Flow
    Front Tyre - Conti RQ 2.4 (non-UST with tubes)
    Rear Tyre - Conti RQ 2.2 UST (running tubeless - no pinch flats)
    Hydraulic disc brakes and levers - Juicy 7 carbon, 180mm rotor front, 160mm rear
    Front derailleur - Shimano Deore XT
    Rear derailleur - SRAM X.9 short cage
    Shifters - SRAM X.9
    Crankset - Shimano Deore XT
    Chainrings - X2 - 36T and 22T
    Bashguard - Gamut Polycarbonate
    9 speed cassette - Shimano Deore XT
    Pedals – Shimano PD-647 (DX)
    Last edited by radiusq; 11-06-2010 at 11:53 PM.

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    Gorgeous !

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    may i join in on the fun?



    2008 small el guapo with dhx rc2 coil
    syncros ds28 rims, 60mm syncrs am stem, fr 7075 bars
    slx cranks, sram x-9 RD, SLX FD, x-9 shifters
    avid juicy 5 brakes with 7" front and rear G2cs rotors
    sun ringle hubs
    fox 36 float R
    truvativ team seatpost with wtb pure V saddle

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    Better late than never :P

    One of the last batches of 2009 El Guapo close out sale from Jenson's





    5'9" 30 inches in seam

    2009 Titus El Guapo (small)
    2010 Fox F36 RC2 Fit damper
    Hope Pro 2 w/ Mavic 819 UST and DT Comp Swiss spokes
    Continental Mountain King 2.4 Tubeless tires
    FSA Gravity headset
    2008 XTR Crank
    2008 XTR DC brakes/shifter w/ Goodridge Hose
    2008 XTR cassette
    2008 XTR Rear dee
    XTR chain
    2009 XT front dee
    XT RT76 rotors (waiting for the Hope Floating rotors to arrive)
    CB Cobalt carbon bars (15mm rise x 680mm width)
    CB cobalt foam grips
    70mm Thomson X4 stem
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    WTB Devo saddle
    some old pedals I installed until I got my CB eggbeaters to arrive

    Total weight a hair over 13Kg at 13.08 Kilograms

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    Wow, just saw this....took way too long man.

    Quote Originally Posted by epicjurneez
    What kind of sag does the 550# spring give ya? I'm thinking of a coil now.
    I get what I'd guess to be around 25-35%....??
    I like bikes.

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    anyone run a 140mm fork, or an adjustable fork at that height? if so, how's it ride? would love to pick one up bet can't afford a new fork too. I know that the HTA would steepen by about a degree but the STA is pretty slack so I was thinking it wouldn't be too bad... a little extra sag in the rear should balance it out, no? Until a proper fork can be swapped onto it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro
    anyone run a 140mm fork, or an adjustable fork at that height? if so, how's it ride? would love to pick one up bet can't afford a new fork too. I know that the HTA would steepen by about a degree but the STA is pretty slack so I was thinking it wouldn't be too bad... a little extra sag in the rear should balance it out, no? Until a proper fork can be swapped onto it...
    There's been a few post on this... concensus on it is that its is not a good idea. Personally i feel that too. Went from a 36Talas (but hardly ever use the travel adjust because it just feels weird when lowered.) to a fixed 160 fork now. Stacking spacers under stem to get back the bar height while using a shorter fork doesnt help. It just need that certain height under the headtube to prop up the intended angles of the frame correctly.

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