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    thanks for the opinions but what with riding trail upwards?Will it be ok or I'm gonna learn to wheelie my way up??

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    You won't wheelie up, it's very balanced.

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    thanks lads

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    Quote Originally Posted by aoio View Post
    thanks for the opinions but what with riding trail upwards?Will it be ok or I'm gonna learn to wheelie my way up??
    Yes indeed, I'm amazed with this bike's geometry - so well balanced with 160 fork while uphil, going up like XC bike, so I never use my 130 travel in Lyrik

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    Hi,
    I'm happy new owner of a Titus ElGuapo v2 (a 2010 frame), the one with straith 1.5' headtube . I need to replace the headset, any advice considering I'm using a 1 1/8' fork ? I'm a bit lost with all the standard, Thanks !

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    That is actually a V1

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolo38 View Post
    Hi,
    I'm happy new owner of a Titus ElGuapo v2 (a 2010 frame), the one with straight 1.5' headtube . I need to replace the headset, any advice considering I'm using a 1 1/8' fork ? I'm a bit lost with all the standard, Thanks !
    V1 had straight 1.5" HT. V2 had a tapered, V3 is the current model with tapered HT and revised geometry. You would need a 1.5" reducer headset like this:
    Universal Cycles -- FSA Big Fat Pig Reducer Headset

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    Thanks for yuor answer, I'll go for something like that. I'll post some pix once bike is ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolo38 View Post
    Thanks for yuor answer, I'll go for something like that. I'll post some pix once bike is ready
    Example of an applicable headset (Assuming 1.5" was 49mm)

    Acros AI 25 ZS49 28 6 ZS49 30 Headset 1 5" Reducer | eBay

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    Great, the built is finished now, I just need to adjust shox settings, and ride ....

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    Hi,
    First test today, bike works verywell, but is not as plush as I expected (I'm running a fox RP23 shox) : could you give me any sample of shox pressure for your weight?
    I'm 140 lbs, set-it up at 130 psi, and it seems to use it all , and really efficient on .
    pedalling.
    thanks for advice

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    What is your sag measurement? The RP 23's on the V1 were not the best shocks, people had to run unusually high pressures to get the correct sag and not blow through the travel. There are ways to shim the air can to get the shock to be more plush.

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    SAG looked correct to me, between 25% to 30% (I'll measure more precisely). Good thing is that I feel I blow less travel on way up for instance, compared to other bike when climbing up it can go over 50% travel.

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    I found this thread from a few years back to show you how to shim the RP23, it really helps it become plusher but yet not bottom out easily.
    2010 EG RP 23 HV w/Boostvalve mod

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    Updated!
    Titus El Guapo V3 's Description:
    Fork - 2011 Fox Float 36 RC2
    Rear Shox - Rockshox Monarch RT3
    Shifters - Shimano Saint M810
    Rear Derailleur - Shimano Siant M810 SGS
    Brake Levers - Shimano XTR M988
    Brakes - Shimano XTR M988
    Brake Rotors - Shimano IceTech 203mm (F) Shimano IceTech 180mm (R)
    Crankset - Shimano SLX
    Bottom Bracket - Shimano XT
    Pedals - HT AE01
    Cassette - Shimano Deore XT
    Chainring - Blackspire Super Pro 32t
    Chain Guide - MRP S4
    Chain - Taya NOVE-91 Ultra Light Ti-Gold
    Rims - Sun Ringle EQ27
    Spokes - Wheelsmith
    Hubs - Hope Pro Evo 2
    Tyres - Panaracer CG AM 2.35
    Skewers - Hope (R)
    Headset - Smoothie Mixer Tapered
    Stem - Answer DJ
    Handlebar - Answer DH
    Grips - Answer DH
    Seatpost - DSP Bighorn 30.9mm
    Seat Clamp - Da Bomb Bomb Clamp 34.9mm
    Saddle - Da Bomb Skull 2.0

    Loving the dropper! Just need more practice! KS Lev will be next once this Bighorn is done!

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    The Bighorn looks awesome on that bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    The Bighorn looks awesome on that bike!
    Yes it is! All thanks to anvil_den!

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    El Guapo Set-Up Data Base-20130301_140316_zpsc2acb4c5.jpg
    My do it all bike for Socal slaying. It pedals like a trail bike and descends like a sled. It weighs somewhere between 35 and 36 pounds. Unfortunately I'm going to have to sell the frameset. It was rawed by the previous owner.

    Frame / Shock: 2010 Titus El Guapo V2 (LG) / Marzocchi Roco WC
    Fork / Headset: Marzocchi 66 RCV 180mm / Cane Creek 10 1.5"
    Handlebars / Stem: Black Market Way Low 787 (cut to 30.5") with ODI Rogue grips / Truvativ Hollzfeller 40mm
    Saddle / Seatpost: Avenir 300 series mountain / Thomson clamped with Sette QR Collar
    Brakes / Rotors: Magura MT2 / Magura Storm SL
    Cranks / BB: Raceface Atlas AM bash-32-22 / Hope stainless
    Front Derailleur / Shifter: SRAM X7 Top Swing / SRAM X7
    Rear Derailleur / Shifter: SRAM X7 Medium Cage / SRAM X7
    Cassette / Chain: SRAM PG970 / SRAM PC970
    Pedals: Forte Convert
    Rims / Hubs: Stans ZTR Flow / SRAM X9 (20mm F, 12mm R with azonic 12 to 10mm axle)
    Tires: WTB Dissent UST 2.3 Tubeless

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    I've been digging around on fit for the EG and haven't seen many taller riders. I'm nearly 6'4"/192cm. I just sold a size Large Yeti 575 that was too small for me and I'm searching for my new bike. All of the size measurements of a Large EG are even smaller than my old 575. Should I quit looking at the EG all together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doba View Post
    I've been digging around on fit for the EG and haven't seen many taller riders. I'm nearly 6'4"/192cm. I just sold a size Large Yeti 575 that was too small for me and I'm searching for my new bike. All of the size measurements of a Large EG are even smaller than my old 575. Should I quit looking at the EG all together?
    Yes, quit looking at the EG. In fact quit looking at mountain bikes. Take up basketball and make some money

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    I am 6'4" and the large guapo fit me well, but I did have a 7" fork on mine.

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    I've got a 160mm TALAS from my last build. I'm just worried about feeling cramped in the cockpit and feeling over the bars.

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    FWIW...

    I'm 5'11", and have been riding a large El Guapo since June 2007 - one of the first off the line. I've logged about 6,300 miles on it, and still LOVE it! Ran it with a 66SL initially, and Lyric SoloAir since 2010...

    I run an EA70 stem in 70mm x 17* for day to day, but have gone down to a 55mm for ski resort days.

    Coming from a medium SuperMoto that just felt cramped, I went with this slightly longer frame, which also allows me to run shorter stems. Also, KSi950r seatpost keeps me moving around - I'm all over inside that cockpit.

    I've had two Evolver ISX-6 in back - fantastic performance for this bike, but costly to rebuild (hence two), so I'll be installing a Monarch Plus RC3 soon.

    I've thought about getting a new bike, but I just love this one so much...

    Edit: Looking back, post #7 of this thread is mine. The bike certainly evolved from that day!

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    i am 6 foot 4 also (34 inseam) and the size large eg is fine. Running xfusion dropper seatpost, 70mm hope stem (20mm spacers), 175 cranks, 160 fox 36 and all is good. Seatpost is well within the min insertion level. Superb on both the ups and downs. My bb comes in at just!! 13.2 inches but others have had issues with out of spec (low) heights so double check yours is correct if you decide to go with one. Never ridden a yeti so cannot make any comparisons with that. Previous ride was a marin rock springs/ attack trail 07 frame and the eg seems comparable in sizing (but far better for riding overall). hope this helps

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    quick question - I have a V3 EG which I'm currently building. I thought I had the correct rear brake mount adaptor but it doesn't fit, could someone please tell me which adaptor I need? Im running XT brakes on 160mm rotors. thanks

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    Which adapter do you have? Should just be a IS to PM adapter for 160mm rotors.
    160mm / 74mm / Rear / 51mm IS / ISMMAR160PSA

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    thanks. I thought it was the right one, it is IS to PM it looks about 10mm too short

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    You mean the holes dont line up on the frame of the height of the caliper is too short for a rotor? It might possibly be for a 140mm rotor, I've heard of mislabled adapters before.

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    Sorry Im being an idiot, I mounted the adaptor the wrong way around! fits fine now! Cheers

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    I appreciate your taste for the finest suspension!

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    My do it all bike for Socal slaying. It pedals like a trail bike and descends like a sled. It weighs somewhere between 35 and 36 pounds. Unfortunately I'm going to have to sell the frameset. It was rawed by the previous owner.

    Frame / Shock: 2010 Titus El Guapo V2 (LG) / Marzocchi Roco WC
    Fork / Headset: Marzocchi 66 RCV 180mm / Cane Creek 10 1.5"
    Handlebars / Stem: Black Market Way Low 787 (cut to 30.5") with ODI Rogue grips / Truvativ Hollzfeller 40mm
    Saddle / Seatpost: Avenir 300 series mountain / Thomson clamped with Sette QR Collar
    Brakes / Rotors: Magura MT2 / Magura Storm SL
    Cranks / BB: Raceface Atlas AM bash-32-22 / Hope stainless
    Front Derailleur / Shifter: SRAM X7 Top Swing / SRAM X7
    Rear Derailleur / Shifter: SRAM X7 Medium Cage / SRAM X7
    Cassette / Chain: SRAM PG970 / SRAM PC970
    Pedals: Forte Convert
    Rims / Hubs: Stans ZTR Flow / SRAM X9 (20mm F, 12mm R with azonic 12 to 10mm axle)
    Tires: WTB Dissent UST 2.3 Tubeless
    I'm so close to getting the Roco WC Coil for my Guap! Currently running a dhx coil which is fine, but from experience, going from fox to Zokes, I can imagine the upgrade in feel of suspension. What's your riding weight and coil spring rate?
    Thx/Enjoy!
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    Another question, this is my first FS build, for the chain length do I have to fully compress the shock then measure the chain using the big chain ring to big rear cog +2 links? thanks

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    I think that may be correct but I have just used your method plus 2 full links without doing the full compression. It worked fine for me.

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    It's best to compress the shock. Or just remove it to cycle the swing arm. Especially if you are using a clutch rd.

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    thanks, yeah i'll be using a clutch mech and chainguide

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    i wouldn't worry about compressing/removing the shock. this frame does not have that much chain growth. adding two full links (to the big-big combo) would be enough. that's how i've done it for years (on low chain growth frames) and haven't had any issues.

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    I'm monitoring low BB thread...but still love my EG...
    Keep maintain at optimum setting, we'll catch the best ride



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    Frame / Shock: 2012 Titus El Guapo V3 Small / RS Monarch RT3
    Fork / Headset: RS Lyrik RC2L Dual Pos Air 160-130 mm / Cane Creek 1.5"
    Rims / Hubs: Ethirteen TRS Wheelset(20mm F, 10mm QR)
    Handlebars / Stem: Answer Protaper 720 / Sunline AM 70 mm
    Saddle / Seatpost: Spez Henge / KS i950
    Brakes / Rotors: Shimano SLX Icetech
    Cranks / Bashguard: Shimano SLX / Truvativ
    Groupset : Shimano SLX 2x10, with Clutch RD (Shadow Plus)
    Pedals: Shimano Saint
    Tires: Continental Trail King 2.2

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    Can't wait...

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    Will have it built up in a week. Can't wait.

    I'll post pics and specs as soon as he's built up.

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    Starting my build this weekend, however i installed the bb cups the other day, drive side went in fine. The non drive side went in about a quarter of the way fine then started getting a little resistance, I backed it off and tried a few more times and it was the same, so I torqued it up (it didn't have a lot of resistance but I needed to use the tool) will this be okay? Or should I remove it? Thanks for any info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Arnold View Post
    Starting my build this weekend, however i installed the bb cups the other day, drive side went in fine. The non drive side went in about a quarter of the way fine then started getting a little resistance, I backed it off and tried a few more times and it was the same, so I torqued it up (it didn't have a lot of resistance but I needed to use the tool) will this be okay? Or should I remove it? Thanks for any info.
    You will be fine. Rarely threads need to be chased, a bit of cleaning with a wire brush maybe useful. Did you apply enough lube to the threads? You would not want it seized up when it is time to disassemble.

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    I agree with Axe. Make sure you clean the threads with a wire brush and grease them up. I have never been able to install bb cups without a tool cause most have thread compound on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Arnold View Post
    Starting my build this weekend, however i installed the bb cups the other day, drive side went in fine. The non drive side went in about a quarter of the way fine then started getting a little resistance, I backed it off and tried a few more times and it was the same, so I torqued it up (it didn't have a lot of resistance but I needed to use the tool) will this be okay? Or should I remove it? Thanks for any info.
    Mine did the same with thread prep, didn't have to use a tool though. After I got in past the tight point it was good, may the force be with you

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    Finally got it built!

    Sorry for the rubbish pictures

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    Frame / Shock: 2012 Titus El Guapo V3 Medium / RS Monarch RT3
    Fork / Headset: 2012 BOS Deville 170mm / Smoothie Mixer
    Rims / Hubs: Stans Flow EX / Hope Pro 2 Evo
    Handlebars / Stem: Nukeproof Warhead / Diety
    Saddle / Seatpost / Seat Collar: Spez Henge / Thomson Elite / Salsa
    Brakes / Rotors: Shimano XT / Shimano Zee
    Cranks / Chainguide: Shimano Saint / MRP G2
    Groupset : Shimano Zee 1x10 (Clutch)
    Pedals: Nukeproof Electron
    Tires: Continental X-King 2.3 Rear / Continental Rubber Queen 2.2 Front

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    Finally!

    It's finally built up... woohoo!

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    Still haven't brought it to the trail yet - bad weather and a busy sked sadly. Hope to get a feel for the suspension by mid-week.

    It's my first air fork so it'll take a lot of taking used to. Yikes. Any tips on how to ser the Marz CR?

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    Guys a question. What sag to have rear and back? I got 25% back and my pedal strikes are reduced so I prefer to keep it this way.
    So what to put on front? I have a Marz 170 CR TA Switch (170-130). Should it be 25% or 30%?
    Does it have to be relevant to the rear sag in order for the bike to be somehow level? Or I am saying bs?
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    This is irrelevant to your question, but how do you like your Marzocchi switch?
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    I like it very much! It's very plush! Like it is coil. I am very happy whit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Gr View Post
    Guys a question. What sag to have rear and back? I got 25% back and my pedal strikes are reduced so I prefer to keep it this way.
    So what to put on front? I have a Marz 170 CR TA Switch (170-130). 25%, 30%. Does it have to be relevant to the rear sag in order for the bike to be somehow level? Or I am saying bs?
    I have between 27-30% sag on the monarch at the lowest compression setting. I just flip it to the stiffest setting on the way up - just make sure that you flip it back down to the lowest or middle for downhill sections.

    Before getting my Marz, I had the bike with a 150mm Sektor. I had 20% sag in the middle compression and increased preload on my sektor - it definitely decreased pedal strikes, but the ride was very harsh on the small bumps.

    Now, on the 170mm Marz, no need to run it too stiff as the a2c height alone adds to the BB height (13" on the 170mm marz and 12.5" on the Sektor). And, as mentioned earlier, my sag is 27-30% on the low comp setting. Just switch to the high compression on the way up

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Gr View Post
    I like it very much! It's very plush! Like it is coil. I am very happy whit it.
    Now this is what I want to learn... how do you set it up like it's a coil sprung fork.

    I'm still having difficulty dialing mine in.

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    Ok, so 27%-30% on the rear. And how about the Marz?
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    Look just put enough air until sag is about 20%-25% and then put compression and rebound in the middle and start testing.
    The compression dial in the CR model is responsible of how stiff it will be when bottoming. Ie how easy it will bottom out or not. I have mine 2 or 3 clicks towards +
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    I have the rebound in the middle and one click towards slow (on the Marz).
    Last edited by George Gr; 06-11-2013 at 11:15 PM.
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    I apologize for the ignorance but, will a 8.75" x 2.75" shock work on the El Guapo? Will the extra .25" send metal 2 metal?
    Thanks
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    Nearly. The end of the shock hits the seat tube - at least it did on my old '08 EG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epicjurneez View Post
    I apologize for the ignorance but, will a 8.75" x 2.75" shock work on the El Guapo? Will the extra .25" send metal 2 metal?
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    I don't think it would fit.

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    Pretty sure it wont fit as the rocker is really close to the seatube with the correct length shock. Only way to find out is to pull the spring off and install and check and see if it clears at full extension and full compression.

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    El Guapo Set-Up Data Base

    Orange V3 frame (small)
    Monarch RT3 shock
    Rockshox Lyrik RC 170mm 20mm axle
    Stan's Flow Rims on Superstar Switch Evo hubs
    Continental Baron 2.3 tyres
    On One Smoothie Mixer headset
    Easton Havoc 50mm stem
    Easton Havoc 750mm bars
    Easton Havoc seatpost
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Superstar supagrippa grips
    Shimano XT M785 Double Chainset 26-38
    Shimano XT cassette 11-36
    Shimano XT front mech
    Shimano XT Shadow rear mech
    Shimano XT chain
    Shimano XT rapid fire 10 speed shifters
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    What do you think of it?

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    What do you think of it?
    In a word, awesome. It eats up the descents and corners like it's on rails and still climbs surprisingly well considering the level of travel. It's a very confidence inspiring bike and just begs to be pushed harder and harder. Overall I'm really happy with it

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    What does it weigh? Very nice!

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    My V2.

    Still under 30 lbs! This frame will be for sale come this fall for anyone that is interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    What does it weigh? Very nice!
    I've no idea, it doesn't feel that heavy to be honest. Need to get it on the scales

    Edit, just weighed it and it comes in at 30.2lb
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    Lets talk rear shock setup, just want some of your opinions (this is my first FS bike) I have the Monarch RT3 and Ive been having a play about with it, all running fine except I find it blowing through its travel quite easily, not so much that I notice it bottoming out but the O-ring indicates it has. I have it set at about 25% sag, rebound is more towards the slow side and the rocker in the forward position (prefer it forward) last time out I did hit a drop and actually heard the loud clank of the shock bottoming out. As im fairly new to suspension setup could any body offer their expertise and help me get the sock set up nice on my EG? I like the feel of it as is, but just seems to be going through the travel easily, but this is my first experience of a rear shock, so is this normal? thanks

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    I don't believe that there is a problem with the shock bottoming once a ride or so on big drops unless you find it is very abrupt in which case you might wish to increase the high speed compression (I am presuming more is available to you? What do you weigh?). Your sag seems OK. Just be sure that is what it is when you are fully geared up and fully watered. You may wish to add a few psi and see how it feels wrt the ride on the trail and your satisfaction with those drops. The forward position is progressive setting so that should work in your favor. You are doing the right thing, play with it until it is doing what you want it to do.

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    Thanks, the shock has the blue floodgate lever, I've been using it on the "unlocked" setting. I have yet to switch it to "locked" so I guess I'll give that a try next week. Fully geared and watered up I weigh around 80 - 82kg. I've been experimenting with the sag between 20-25% which feels okay. But then I feel I may be running it too firm at 20%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Arnold View Post
    (this is my first FS bike) I find it blowing through its travel quite easily, not so much that I notice it bottoming out but the O-ring indicates it has. I have it set at about 25% sag, rebound is more towards the slow side and the rocker in the forward position (prefer it forward) last time out I did hit a drop and actually heard the loud clank of the shock bottoming out. As im fairly new to suspension setup could any body offer their expertise and help me get the sock set up nice on my EG? I like the feel of it as is, but just seems to be going through the travel easily, but this is my first experience of a rear shock, so is this normal? thanks
    Loud clank es no bueno.. you want front and rear suspension setup to be roughly similar, so they work as a system (at least until you get used to how the suspension uses its travel, so you don't break things).
    How much travel are you using on the fork when the rear clanks, is it bottoming? My guess, the fork may be over sprung, or have too much compression or both.

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    The loud clank has only happened once, the other times the o-ring is at the bottom of the shock when I've stopped to check, and there has been no noise. I've done around 50 miles of rough natural trails (the peak district). As for the forks travel I'd say maybe 80% of its travel, Im running a BOS fork which I have setup to the letter as per the instruction manual.

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    The trail will let you know..

    Instruction manuals have almost never been right for me, I think of it as a starting point for sag. Best to go by feel and tune to taste

    *You still have almost an inch and a half of unused travel on the fork

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    Like Deerhill suggested, your fork may be slightly oversprung putting the load on the rear shock. You are setting the sag with the compression lever in the open position correct? What is the PSI? My guess is you are around 160PSI? Are you setting the sag geared up with your pak etc? That can add an extra 10-15 lbs of weight requiring 10+ psi or more.

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    I understand that the BOS forks are meant to be set-up using the manual to get the best out of them (I usually go by feel)

    I am setting the sag with the lever in the open position and fully kitted up (including water) and yes the PSI falls between 170 (20%) and 160 (25%)

    When you say I need the fork setup similar to the rear shock, do you just mean the sag?

    thanks

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    Yeah, sag should be pretty close to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Arnold View Post
    I understand that the BOS forks are meant to be set-up using the manual to get the best out of them (I usually go by feel)

    I am setting the sag with the lever in the open position and fully kitted up (including water) and yes the PSI falls between 170 (20%) and 160 (25%)

    When you say I need the fork setup similar to the rear shock, do you just mean the sag?

    thanks
    And the way front and rear use the end of the travel.. the BOS could be a bit more progressive, I'd reduce volume in the monarch

    Does the Bos manual show how to make the air spring more linear?

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    The BOS are firm up top and then come alive in the mid stroke (super plush), then ramp up again towards the end of the stroke. How much would you reduce it by? also (sorry if im being an idiot) but what are the reasons for reducing the volume? I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to suspension setup.

    The BOS manual is pretty specific on the setup, here is a link to the manual

    http://www.bosmtb.com/uploads/media/...e2011EN_01.pdf

    thanks.

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    It will make the shock ramp up a little more at the end of the stroke, like the air fork is doing. I know fox makes some but you can make your own.. It's just a piece of plastic that takes up space.. makes the air chamber smaller.

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    Edit:

    Thanks for the info, managed to shim the air can and after a quick test out on the street it feels 100% better!! I will give it a full workout tomorrow, but it seems to have done the trick. Thanks for the help everyone.
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    I am eagerly awaiting my el guapo frame which shipped about a 10 days ago from the uk... I have a quick question... Anyone here running a pick n mix hope headset on their el guapo? In particular the latest frame version? I'm looking at a 2 (top cup) and D (bottom cup) option as I will be running a 1-1/8 steerer and I would prefer if someone has tested it in the field and could advise from personal experience. I know there are loads of options but I prefer hope components for a 'fit and forget' At least that's how my experience goes with my other hope stuff.

    Any advice is much appreciated.

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    Those of you guys who run their el guapo with the shock mounted on the 'forward', more progressive hole on the shock mount... how does it differ from the other hole? Is it more sensitive to small bumps? Is it stiffer overall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    Those of you guys who run their el guapo with the shock mounted on the 'forward', more progressive hole on the shock mount... how does it differ from the other hole? Is it more sensitive to small bumps? Is it stiffer overall?
    i cant really tell much different with both mount on small bumps with RT3... but i prefer the feeling on the lower mount on going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    Those of you guys who run their el guapo with the shock mounted on the 'forward', more progressive hole on the shock mount... how does it differ from the other hole? Is it more sensitive to small bumps? Is it stiffer overall?
    The bike sits up more in its travel and it provides a more progressive stroke, generally suited for those of us who like to go down more than up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    Those of you guys who run their el guapo with the shock mounted on the 'forward', more progressive hole on the shock mount... how does it differ from the other hole? Is it more sensitive to small bumps? Is it stiffer overall?
    its a better setting if you run a coil since coils are more linear. it doesn't change the feeling at the beginning of the stroke, it just causes it to ramp up towards the end of the stroke

    I was running a marzocchi roco world cup in the forward setting. it felt bottomless on big drops, but the downside is that when you go through very rocky stuff at speed it tended to wallow in the middle of the stroke before it ramps up.

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    Hey guys it's me again
    Just got my 2013 frame out of the box with the CCDB on it but no matter how hard I have searched I have not foynd reccomended settings
    (in clicks or bolt spins) anywhere. I think I could use some friendly advise with your setting concerning the rebound and copmression high and low speed

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    hi aoio,

    I find one in singletrackworld;
    Titus el guapo and CCDB air « Singletrack Forum

    hope that help

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    hsc 0.5, hsr 8, lsr 2, lsc 10
    are my settings

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    have you used any recommended sett- up or was it more like "hm.. i didn't like how that feels, let's add some high speed reboynd"?

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    its more based on feel after riding the shock for a while.

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    i will set it up like you suggested and let you know my impressions

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    Here's also a very useful video on how to set up the DB by Ed.
    "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail" Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    thank you very much george!

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    How's the clearance between your ccdb and seat tube? Straight out the box the bottom eyelet on mine had already taken paint off the seat tube and has to be sent back. I'd be curious to know how many mm there is on yours so I know what is 'normal' when I get a replacement...

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    3-5 mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    It's finally built up... woohoo!

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    Still haven't brought it to the trail yet - bad weather and a busy sked sadly. Hope to get a feel for the suspension by mid-week.
    It's my first air fork so it'll take a lot of taking used to. Yikes. Any tips on how to ser the Marz CR?
    Finally have properly beefy tires on the bike... AND I got the fork to work the way I like it so I'm happy. No issues/problems with the rebound speed at all

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    El Guapo Set-Up Data Base-aoio4.jpgEl Guapo Set-Up Data Base-aoio.jpg here is my personal setup:
    bar: El Guapo ancho 760mm
    grips: Nukeproof lock on grips
    stem: El Guapo corto 35mm
    brakes: Avid X0 200/180mm HS1 rotors
    shifters: Avid X9 triggers 2x10
    front/rear deralieur: Avid X7 2x10/ Avid X9 10 sp
    fork: Rockshox lyrik RC2DH 160mm travel 20mm Maxle taperd steerer
    rear shock: Cane Creek Double Barrel Air 215mm / 63mm / 21.8mm x 8mm
    headset: ON-ONE smoothie mixer headset
    wheelset: Nukeproof generator AM 20mm/135x10
    tyres(tires) front/rear: Maxxis minion 2ply 2.5 42a/ High roller 2ply 2.5 60a
    crank: Shimano SLX M670 10 Speed Triple with bbg bash ring as third disc
    chain tensioner: Blackspire Stinger Chain Tensioner iscg 05 mount
    chain: Shimano Deore XT HG94 HGX 10 Speed Chain with avid quick link
    casette: Shimano XT M771 10 Speed MTB Cassette
    seatpost: Funn Crossfire Seatpost 2012
    seat: WTB Laser V Pro Saddle 2012
    hope you ejoyed as much as I did!
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    Pics can only be a few hundred kilobytes. You need to reduce the file size.

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    thanks bro! Found my way out!

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    Aoio that looks epic! What is the cockpit like with that stem and bar?

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    loved it! It is a little small and some times it feels like you are going to superman over your bars and down the trail but a few rides and you get used to it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovi View Post


    Egcellent!
    ...

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    once el guapo allways el guapo!

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    That going over the bars feeling was due to the wrong attack position I had in the trails. With a little more bent elbows and lower waist feels silk smooth.

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    Hi, New here!

    Just built up an El-Guapo v3...got a drivetrain question for you all.

    Currently running a triple chainset with a bash instead of the big ring. I have had to ditch the granny too to be able to run a stinger. I'm well aware of the clearance issues due to the flush ISCG 05 tabs.

    My question is...If I run an XT M785 (double specific), will I have clearance for a Blackspire Twinty 2X chainguide?! It is potentially a 200+ mistake waiting to happen.

    Cheers

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    El Guapo Set-Up Data Base

    Quote Originally Posted by saps View Post
    Hi, New here!

    Just built up an El-Guapo v3...got a drivetrain question for you all.

    Currently running a triple chainset with a bash instead of the big ring. I have had to ditch the granny too to be able to run a stinger. I'm well aware of the clearance issues due to the flush ISCG 05 tabs.

    My question is...If I run an XT M785 (double specific), will I have clearance for a Blackspire Twinty 2X chainguide?! It is potentially a 200+ mistake waiting to happen.

    Cheers
    Not sure how much help it is but I'm running an XT M785 double with a blackspire stinger and defender. There is a good 3-4mm clearance between the stinger and the granny ring

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