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    The El Guapo is Alive! Ride Report

    Well after much finageling I was able to keep her. Here are the specs:

    Sm Blue Titus El Guapo
    DHX Air 5.0
    Vanilla 36 RC2
    DT Swiss 5.1 Rims
    Schwalbe Fat Alberts
    Hadley/Hope hubs
    XT Drivetrain 2x9
    XT Cranks
    Easton XC Monkey Bars
    Crappy 70mm stem (50mm on the way)
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    WTB Rocket saddle
    Hope QR stuff
    Dangerboy rock ring
    31 to 32 lbs?

    So far I have 2 days on the bike. The first day was a dial-in the bike kind of ride. The trail is some highly technical singletrack with some fast flowy spots and rooty/rocky climbs. The 2nd day was more of a how does this bike compare type of ride. This trail is a very muscley type of ride with big rocks, rollers, drops, speed lines, rock gardens, etc. The type of trail where most people wear pads.

    The first thing I noticed was that this bike just feels right. I hopped on it and I was riding w/o any adjustment period, despite not having my rear shock dialed-in. The balance and the steering are spot on. It's also the stiffest bike I've ever been on which was very nice to feel. I found myself climbing and ripping this bike like I've been on it for years. When I hit the speed lines I was very impressed with how it railed. I was leaning into my turns like I never had before and the bike was sticking it. As far as the rough stuff goes it was quite plush. I hit a handfull of smaller drops (3' to 4' range) and the felt very stable and forgiving in the air. It also was very stable on the large rollers, having the Van36 doesn't hurt either (the fork rocks). As far as narrow bridges goes I felt more confident on this bike than any others. Just point and ride. I did hit my pedals on rock gardens more than I'm used to but it wasn't a big deal. I also did some fireroad and road climbs on it to see how it would handle that and I was impressed with how well it rode. I didn't even turn on the Propedal at all because I didn't feel like it would help that much. Overall I'm very excited about this bike. With some weekend trips and a 24 hour race coming up I'm very happy to have a solid rig again.

    DHX Air Notes:
    I had to really play with the DHX Air to get it to feel plush. The default settings were pretty harsh. You can't just set the sag and go, you really need to dial it in. I ended up backing the bottom out knob and propedal knobs all the way. I was still only using about 2/3 of my travel until I dropped the air pressure in the reservoir. That seemed to do the trick. It's still not dialed in to where I want it but it's very close.
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    Glad you like the bike. It is sharp. Are you glad you kept it?

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    Woody

    NICE! I think you're gonna like the bike. The DHX air is nice when set-up properly.

    I like the gold accents...the bike looks good.

    cheers
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    sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak
    Well after much finageling I was able to keep her. Here are the specs:

    Sm Blue Titus El Guapo
    DHX Air 5.0
    Vanilla 36 RC2
    DT Swiss 5.1 Rims
    Schwalbe Fat Alberts
    Hadley/Hope hubs
    XT Drivetrain 2x9
    XT Cranks
    Easton XC Monkey Bars
    Crappy 70mm stem (50mm on the way)
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    WTB Rocket saddle
    Hope QR stuff
    Dangerboy rock ring
    31 to 32 lbs?

    DHX Air Notes:
    I had to really play with the DHX Air to get it to feel plush. The default settings were pretty harsh. You can't just set the sag and go, you really need to dial it in. I ended up backing the bottom out knob and propedal knobs all the way. I was still only using about 2/3 of my travel until I dropped the air pressure in the reservoir. That seemed to do the trick. It's still not dialed in to where I want it but it's very close.
    Can I ask what your inseam is? You apparently seem quite comfortable with the frame. I'm asking for future reference.
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    Glad you keep it, Woody!!!

    Even more glad you really like it!!!!
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    very nize! It's great to see a build other than the flat black with pearl and talas 36 build that titus has been pushing.

    with all the confusion about el guapo geometry, can you post up your BB height?

    I definitely think you made the right choice keeping it. Selling it and buying anything comparable would have cost you a lot of money. That bike looks tight!

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    Another rider raving about The Handsome One!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclopod
    Can I ask what your inseam is? You apparently seem quite comfortable with the frame. I'm asking for future reference.
    I'd say 29.5" inseam and I'm 5'5"

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    That thing looks hot! Nice build.

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    Luckeeeeee!

    ........to quote Napoleon Dynamite.

    I was justing getting to fall in love with my black EG, but your build makes the blue almost desirable and someting I'd want to sport.
    Very glad you kept it, Woody.

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    Well done Woodyak nice built, thanks for the review

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    So what made you decide to keep it? All these reviews that have been finally coming in?

    They sure have been speaking to "me".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    very nize! It's great to see a build other than the flat black with pearl and talas 36 build that titus has been pushing.

    with all the confusion about el guapo geometry, can you post up your BB height?
    I measured it last night and it was 13.25" from the floor to the center of the crank bolt. I'm not sure where they get 13.85". I wonder which fork they used for their geometry specs.

    btw,
    I've always owned bikes with high BB's so this is very different for me and I really like it. It's a ton more stable at speed and sharp turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    So what made you decide to keep it? All these reviews that have been finally coming in?

    They sure have been speaking to "me".
    The reviews certainly didn't hurt. It's been boxed in my office for awhile and I swear I could hear her whimpering "build me" So I once again listened to the strange voices in my head. All it took was 2 good rides to decide this is the one for me. It was like trying on a shoe that just fits right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbob.com
    ........to quote Napoleon Dynamite.

    I was justing getting to fall in love with my black EG, but your build makes the blue almost desirable and someting I'd want to sport.
    Very glad you kept it, Woody.
    Yeah, I really was disappointed at first when Titus said they couldn't get me the black but when I saw the blue in person I really liked it and I'm pretty stoked on it. I'm the type of guy who usually likes the more industrial colors like black, polished, or even better raw aluminum (IE Intense's "Works"), but I'm quite happy with this color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak
    I measured it last night and it was 13.25" from the floor to the center of the crank bolt.
    I don't get it.

    That is way different than spec. I wonder whom is smokin' dope here...Titus designers, Taiwanese welders or woodyak? Come on, give it up...who's "on the pot"?

    Are you sure you have the 36Van and not the 32Van? kidding of course.
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    Nice report. Glad you're digging the EG.

    May I ask what bike or bikes you've been riding previously that you're comparing the El Quapo to? "The stiffest bike I've ever ridden" comment caught my attention.

    If I have a complaint with my 6.6 it's that it feels a little squirly in the rear when going through off-camber, rocky, or rutty stuff that puts a side load on the rear tire/triangle. I wondered if this is just kinda what you have to expect from a lightish 6.75" bike or if it's unique to my bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    Nice report. Glad you're digging the EG.

    May I ask what bike or bikes you've been riding previous this one that you're comparing the El Quapo to? "The stiffest bike I've ever ridden" comment caught my attention.

    If I have a complaint with my 6.6 it's that it feels a little squirly when going through off-camber, rocky, or rutty stuff that puts a side load on the rear.

    If "stiffness' catches your attention it's a wonder "Titus" didn't already get it a long time ago.

    For me stiffnes is A #1, and IMO Titus and the word stiffness have held the same meaning.

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    cool man...

    I am glad to hear you got her built up and are digging it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    If "stiffness' catches your attention it's a wonder "Titus" didn't already get it a long time ago.
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    It did. Maybe that's why I'm spoiled. The HH is super stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    It did. Maybe that's why I'm spoiled. The HH is super stiff.

    HH are indeed stiff... super stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I don't get it.

    That is way different than spec. I wonder whom is smokin' dope here...Titus designers, Taiwanese welders or woodyak? Come on, give it up...who's "on the pot"?

    Are you sure you have the 36Van and not the 32Van? kidding of course.
    I haven't touched that stuff in years. I wouldn't even know where to get the stuff. At least that's what I tell the wife

    But I mast have been on something. I remeasured and it came up with 13.5". I was looking at the wrong line on the ruler

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    Nice report. Glad you're digging the EG.

    May I ask what bike or bikes you've been riding previously that you're comparing the El Quapo to? "The stiffest bike I've ever ridden" comment caught my attention.

    If I have a complaint with my 6.6 it's that it feels a little squirly in the rear when going through off-camber, rocky, or rutty stuff that puts a side load on the rear tire/triangle. I wondered if this is just kinda what you have to expect from a lightish 6.75" bike or if it's unique to my bike.
    The bikes I have some good riding time on and compare it to are the 07 Spec Enduro light, 06 Spec Enduro, 07 SC Blur, 6.6, old SC Bullet, 03 Quasimoto, 06 Motolight, 05 5-Spot.

    I too felt some flex in the rear of the 6.6. The EG is noticably stiffer. I think they're trying to fix that in the 6.6 SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
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