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    Contraption of the year...



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    Man, that thing would be the sh!t on the El Guano. It would be like 6+3=9 " of travel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    Man, that thing would be the sh!t on the El Guano. It would be like 6+3=9 " of travel!
    El Guapo is pure HL Nirvana... maybe some crappy single pivot or single pivot wannabe may need it...
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    What porn site did you get that from? Does it promise longer lasting orgasms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
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    what do you say after seeing that ?~?

    Warp, what going on with your open bath conversion ?~?

    I'm starting to wonder if the 55 TST fork is a bit like the Roco TST, if you get my drift ?~?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    what do you say after seeing that ?~?

    Warp, what going on with your open bath conversion ?~?

    I'm starting to wonder if the 55 TST fork is a bit like the Roco TST, if you get my drift ?~?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    I get the donor tomorrow!!
    Coolio !~!

    There's a dood here trying to flog off a 05 Z1 FRII. I think it's HSCV one side and ?~?~? the other side.... got me thinking I could put new bushings in the lowers, with my uppers, and put my TAS cartridge on the ?~?~? side ?~?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    El Guapo is pure HL Nirvana... maybe some crappy single pivot or single pivot wannabe may need it...
    I know you're not talking about me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    I know you're not talking about me..
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    bit of a tease....

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    bit of a tease....
    All I need now are the 5.1d rims and Revo spokes that are in the post... Then it will be 'done' until the my next attack of UGI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    All I need now are the 5.1d rims and Revo spokes that are in the post... Then it will be 'done' until the my next attack of UGI.
    Light wheels. You're game using those spokes . What hubs will be attached to them ?~?

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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    I know you're not talking about me..
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    DANG, MANG!!!

    What shock is that??? Schweeeeet!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Light wheels. You're game using those spokes . What hubs will be attached to them ?~?
    He he.. I am mounting them to my Syncros FR hubs:
    http://www.syncros.com/hubs.htm

    A little heavy, but 36 POE and 10mm TA, very quiet (I like quiet, no angry bees for me), massive bearings, 20mm TA in the front of course...

    Built up right, these wheels should be fairly light and strong.. Now the question is can I built them up right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    DANG, MANG!!!

    What shock is that??? Schweeeeet!!!!
    Just a not so regular old Vanilla RC, with PUSH mods and a little more from yours truly...
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    nice hub... Syncros is really getting things going again

    how much does it weigh ?~? All the best for the tensioning... be carefully with those thin spokes

    I got a Hadley on the way.... I like noise, makes me feel important

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    nice hub... Syncros is really getting things going again

    how much does it weigh ?~? All the best for the tensioning... be carefully with those thin spokes

    I got a Hadley on the way.... I like noise, makes me feel important
    I have a little bell for when I want to make noise. Ding! Ding! Ding!

    Not sure how much it weighs.. Not sure if I want to know either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    He he.. I am mounting them to my Syncros FR hubs:
    http://www.syncros.com/hubs.htm

    A little heavy, but 36 POE and 10mm TA, very quiet (I like quiet, no angry bees for me), massive bearings, 20mm TA in the front of course...

    Built up right, these wheels should be fairly light and strong.. Now the question is can I built them up right.
    nice those hubs look very nice... I am liking Syncros stuff lately (please ignore the long tube, it will be cut eventually)

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmadrigal/575678353/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/575678353_22bbeff1c0_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="testing 80mm stem on the 575" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    nice those hubs look very nice... I am liking Syncros stuff lately (please ignore the long tube, it will be cut eventually)

    ...
    You mean when you sell your fork for some Zoke Stoke !~!

    I had a Syncros 32 rim in my hands today. Big heavy sucka ready for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    You mean when you sell your fork for some Zoke Stoke !~!



    could be.... though the Pike might stay around... I really like it... but never say never

    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    I had a Syncros 32 rim in my hands today. Big heavy sucka ready for fun.
    yeah..those rims seem bombproof

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo


    could be.... though the Pike might stay around... I really like it... but never say never



    yeah..those rims seem bombproof
    you'd pump and roll on anything pimp.... just feed the addiction

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    you'd pump and roll on anything pimp.... just feed the addiction

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    nice hub... Syncros is really getting things going again

    how much does it weigh ?~? All the best for the tensioning... be carefully with those thin spokes

    I got a Hadley on the way.... I like noise, makes me feel important
    I checked out those Hadley hubs.. Very nice! Did you get the one with 108 POE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    nice those hubs look very nice... I am liking Syncros stuff lately (please ignore the long tube, it will be cut eventually)
    I have a Bulk CF low rise on my singlespeed. Long and uh stiff, I mean rigid, uhh nevermind.

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    looks like a real nut crusher, i need one

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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    Just a not so regular old Vanilla RC, with PUSH mods and a little more from yours truly...
    What kind of adaprter did you use??

    Any info on the threads used there? I'd like to do the same to my Float.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    I checked out those Hadley hubs.. Very nice! Did you get the one with 108 POE?

    I think they don't make the 108s anymore because of reliability problems...they went back to 76 POE or something like that....still more than plenty fast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    I think they don't make the 108s anymore because of reliability problems...they went back to 76 POE or something like that....still more than plenty fast...
    72 just like Kings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    72 just like Kings...
    that was the number sorry..didn't check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    What kind of adaprter did you use??

    Any info on the threads used there? I'd like to do the same to my Float.
    Check it:
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    Darren said it would be weak if I did that, but I don't think so. Works fine.

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    Speaking of contraptions Warp.... any news on your cool project in the mad scientist zoke lab ?~?

    Not sure if i told you... there is a local trying to offload an 05 Z1 FRII. I think it has HSCV in one leg and SSV in the other ?~?

    Can I get this fork to put the sacrificial lamb Z1 FRII HSCV (if in fact it is HSCV) in where my TST ?~? I guess there are 20mm lowers too which I could put new bushings in.

    My TST cart comes back tomorrow. If I read the brief email correctly they said there is a softer spring on top along with a flexible shim on top of piston. Rebound was a dead horse. They did some minor 'port work' on all orifices. They put back 7.5 w oil but they think I might need to go up to even 10w with the work they did. They also have no real idea how this will also work out, but they enjoyed playing with it. They suggested I may need to use some compression to allow their work to work. I told them to do what they want because I was looking at either buying a new RC2 cartridge, Z1, or a future 55. So all shove it in and have a go this weekend if the rain stops.

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    Revo spokes apparently twist...?

    Quote Originally Posted by presslab
    ....Now the question is can I built them up right.

    How much experience you have? You do know that Revo spokes tend to twist as you raise the tension. A wheel builder told me that you have to clamp the spokes to prevent the twisting when the tension starts getting high.

    Never built wheels myself....that's just what I was told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Speaking of contraptions Warp.... any news on your cool project in the mad scientist zoke lab ?~?

    Not sure if i told you... there is a local trying to offload an 05 Z1 FRII. I think it has HSCV in one leg and SSV in the other ?~?

    Can I get this fork to put the sacrificial lamb Z1 FRII HSCV (if in fact it is HSCV) in where my TST ?~? I guess there are 20mm lowers too which I could put new bushings in.

    My TST cart comes back tomorrow. If I read the brief email correctly they said there is a softer spring on top along with a flexible shim on top of piston. Rebound was a dead horse. They did some minor 'port work' on all orifices. They put back 7.5 w oil but they think I might need to go up to even 10w with the work they did. They also have no real idea how this will also work out, but they enjoyed playing with it. They suggested I may need to use some compression to allow their work to work. I told them to do what they want because I was looking at either buying a new RC2 cartridge, Z1, or a future 55. So all shove it in and have a go this weekend if the rain stops.

    Well, I should be getting the donor this week. It was meant top be yesterday, but both my buddy and I couldn't sort it out.

    About the FRII... I think it can be done. I would just make sure it has the bits you want. I'm not sure you can use the uppers of the Z1 as some have some insert in the bottom of the damper (right) stanchion to hold the damper. This is true at least for all the SSV/SSVF forks and I seem to recall the HSCV had something in there.

    Yeah the lowers can be used... those were the donors for Frankenforks (AM1's with 20mm TA)

    Coon on the mods to the TST... seems they made the compression speed sensitive finally. It should feel tons better!!

    The rebound... yeah, there's not much you can do but replace the whole piston and machine your own. Most of the rebound damping on the AM1 comes from the huge bleed port.

    Actually, and if your buddies in the mainland want to take another go for it; I'd do this:

    1.- Cut off a thread on the bleed port. I guess this should be done to the main shaft, but I don't know if there's room for it.

    2.- Cut off ports on the face of the rebound piston

    3.- Use a larger glide ring so it actually closes the ports on the sides of the piston.

    4.- Put shims over the piston face and with a machined piece, direct the flow through the bleed to a small piston with shims. This will create a low speed rebound and a zero-bleed.

    BUt I don't know of the TST bladder can take zero-bleed piston. None of them on the TST catually are. Maybe the volume displaced would be too big for the TST bladder to take it and eventually it'll rip.

    That's what JC referred to when he asked if you were replacing the bladder with a solid piece. But if you would want to go that route, you'd maybe need a way to prevent cavitation. That's why the TST2 uses some pressure inside the cartrdige.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintSauce
    How much experience you have? You do know that Revo spokes tend to twist as you raise the tension. A wheel builder told me that you have to clamp the spokes to prevent the twisting when the tension starts getting high.

    Never built wheels myself....that's just what I was told.
    I've built maybe a dozen wheels... By no means an expert but I think if I'm careful it will go together ok. I plan to use plenty of anti-seize which should keep the twist down.

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    Thanks Warp.

    My hotted up cartridge just arrived !~! Yeah, they did this for nix, so they didn't want to machine a new piston. All have to study your suggestion though... but the 55 is just looking so hot. I am convinced the 55 TST is not what is seems and for the better. Until then I will attempt to look into a RC2 cart, or leverage a Z1 from someone..... it seems people with RC2 Z1's like them more than Caribou

    I think all pass on the HSCV.... RC2 seems more appealing but hopefully you can tell me what you think soon.


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    Well, I should be getting the donor this week. It was meant top be yesterday, but both my buddy and I couldn't sort it out.

    About the FRII... I think it can be done. I would just make sure it has the bits you want. I'm not sure you can use the uppers of the Z1 as some have some insert in the bottom of the damper (right) stanchion to hold the damper. This is true at least for all the SSV/SSVF forks and I seem to recall the HSCV had something in there.

    Yeah the lowers can be used... those were the donors for Frankenforks (AM1's with 20mm TA)

    Coon on the mods to the TST... seems they made the compression speed sensitive finally. It should feel tons better!!

    The rebound... yeah, there's not much you can do but replace the whole piston and machine your own. Most of the rebound damping on the AM1 comes from the huge bleed port.

    Actually, and if your buddies in the mainland want to take another go for it; I'd do this:

    1.- Cut off a thread on the bleed port. I guess this should be done to the main shaft, but I don't know if there's room for it.

    2.- Cut off ports on the face of the rebound piston

    3.- Use a larger glide ring so it actually closes the ports on the sides of the piston.

    4.- Put shims over the piston face and with a machined piece, direct the flow through the bleed to a small piston with shims. This will create a low speed rebound and a zero-bleed.

    BUt I don't know of the TST bladder can take zero-bleed piston. None of them on the TST catually are. Maybe the volume displaced would be too big for the TST bladder to take it and eventually it'll rip.

    That's what JC referred to when he asked if you were replacing the bladder with a solid piece. But if you would want to go that route, you'd maybe need a way to prevent cavitation. That's why the TST2 uses some pressure inside the cartrdige.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Thanks Warp.

    My hotted up cartridge just arrived !~! Yeah, they did this for nix, so they didn't want to machine a new piston. All have to study your suggestion though... but the 55 is just looking so hot. I am convinced the 55 TST is not what is seems and for the better. Until then I will attempt to look into a RC2 cart, or leverage a Z1 from someone..... it seems people with RC2 Z1's like them more than Caribou

    I think all pass on the HSCV.... RC2 seems more appealing but hopefully you can tell me what you think soon.
    nice.. keep us posted on how the mod performs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Thanks Warp.

    My hotted up cartridge just arrived !~! Yeah, they did this for nix, so they didn't want to machine a new piston. All have to study your suggestion though... but the 55 is just looking so hot. I am convinced the 55 TST is not what is seems and for the better. Until then I will attempt to look into a RC2 cart, or leverage a Z1 from someone..... it seems people with RC2 Z1's like them more than Caribou

    I think all pass on the HSCV.... RC2 seems more appealing but hopefully you can tell me what you think soon.
    Wooohoooo!!!!

    Donor is here!!!

    And everything points out it'll be a straight swap. I yet have to check threading, carts length and what not... But castings look strikingly similar. It even looks like the footnuts are "hot swap"

    They'll be on the Operations Table tonight... if wifey doesn't get any worst 'cos she's got a bad cold. I may have to take care of her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Wooohoooo!!!!

    Donor is here!!!

    And everything points out it'll be a straight swap. I yet have to check threading, carts length and what not... But castings look strikingly similar. It even looks like the footnuts are "hot swap"

    They'll be on the Operations Table tonight... if wifey doesn't get any worst 'cos she's got a bad cold. I may have to take care of her.
    sweet! keep us posted!

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    Cool Warp. I'm about to ride my enhanced TST

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Cool Warp. I'm about to ride my enhanced TST
    Coolio... let me know... Maybe mine will make the trip to Aussie.
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    Yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    I think they don't make the 108s anymore because of reliability problems...they went back to 76 POE or something like that....still more than plenty fast...

    My 108 pt engagement crapped out after 6 months. I still haven't gotten around to sending it back to them.

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    COMPLETE SUCCESS!!!!

    Will post pics soon... But you need the complete thing. Cartridge and top cap. The foot nut can be used too...

    Bouncing the bars feels plusher. Maybe due to the complete open bath.

    Set-Up will be more finicky...as it implies messing with oil weight, levels and air pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    COMPLETE SUCCESS!!!!

    Will post pics soon... But you need the complete thing. Cartridge and top cap. The foot nut can be used too...

    Bouncing the bars feels plusher. Maybe due to the complete open bath.

    Set-Up will be more finicky...as it implies messing with oil weight, levels and air pressure.
    Warp
    Do you think you can organize your thoughts and post up what you did? Maybe in a new thread?

    I'm interested what you did, but too lazy to go looking for all the different posts...

    Pics are strongly encouraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    COMPLETE SUCCESS!!!!

    Will post pics soon... But you need the complete thing. Cartridge and top cap. The foot nut can be used too...

    Bouncing the bars feels plusher. Maybe due to the complete open bath.

    Set-Up will be more finicky...as it implies messing with oil weight, levels and air pressure.
    Sweet!

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    Coolio Dr Warp !~!

    Took the new alter ego hot rodded TST cartridge. Bottomed the living crap out of it on a flat 2 footer ...not the result i was expecting. But then noticed I had the compression dial open. I went two click in and went off a double with great success. It feels like it's got much more zest with two clicks and still feels very reactive. It's insanely active fully open and tracks perhaps too well, At speed int he rough a big improvement but finding and awkward portion about 2/3 stroke at speeds. Not existent at slower speeds. I suppose it was the try and see approach and needed more try and see tuning. Can't say it's the ducks nuts but i think I need to ride more and will required more compression. i like it better though. Although has a few glitches and odd quirks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Coolio Dr Warp !~!

    Took the new alter ego hot rodded TST cartridge. Bottomed the living crap out of it on a flat 2 footer ...not the result i was expecting. But then noticed I had the compression dial open. I went two click in and went off a double with great success. It feels like it's got much more zest with two clicks and still feels very reactive. It's insanely active fully open and tracks perhaps too well, At speed int he rough a big improvement but finding and awkward portion about 2/3 stroke at speeds. Not existent at slower speeds. I suppose it was the try and see approach and needed more try and see tuning. Can't say it's the ducks nuts but i think I need to ride more and will required more compression. i like it better though. Although has a few glitches and odd quirks.
    Cool!!

    Just remember you have the ETA side and also the TST oil volume to help with excess of "plushness" in the later stages of travel!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Cool!!

    Just remember you have the ETA side and also the TST oil volume to help with excess of "plushness" in the later stages of travel!!
    With 2 clicks of compression it felt like maybe 1/2 a click before but kept it's bottom very well... much better than stock.

    The glitch i felt could very well be the shim not quite right for me. i was advised i might need 10 weight oil with 7.5 put in, maybe all try that.

    I am trying to get an RC2 cartridge and top cap here, but no direct Zoke here.

    I might have to get FM or someone else in America who can get one for me and send it over.

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