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    Biker Bob just pimped my ride !!!

    I just got a ride in on my new Talas fork. The thing just rocks! I love the three position travel adjust. 140mm is perfect for the Motolite going downhill. And the 100mm setting is perfect for going uphill. When I installed it I took two spacers out (previous fork was a 90 to 130 Talas) to make for the 100mm travel in the lower travel setting. Was very happy on the short ride that I took. Right now I am running the RP3 but I can't wait to throw the DHX back on and do some serious downhill shredding. Anybody else running the new Talas on the Motolite? After one ride I am all smiles. The only minor gripe I have is I don't feel a positive detent in the 140mm setting.

    Kudos to Bikerbob! Bob, you got the fork to me early but unfortunately the wife didn't want to get up from her nap to answer the mail man knock on the front door. So I had to spend the whole weekend thinking about the fork sitting at the post office.

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    Bro, can't do what you asked for, Sorry. I don't have attributes to do so.

    I'll try to work it out anyway.

    BTW... Your fork looks sweet! Keep us updated on how it does with time.
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    I'm also waiting for an upgrade from BikerBob. A DHX 5.0 Coil and 8" XT front rotor.... I'm thinking that the 8" rotor will be the cause of one or two endos if I'm not carefull and grab a handfull....

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    Sounds mint Chris. Yes for me am stoked also, Bob has on its way to me my Push'd RP23... Yeah ha.....
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    I gotta spend some money on my bike, too.
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    Aweome! The fork looks real sweet.

    Now.. go get it dirrrrty!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris9702l
    The only minor gripe I have is I don't feel a positive detent in the 130mm setting.
    Hey Chris!

    I think there shouldn't be a 130mm detent on your 07 Talas. It is supposed to be 100-120-140, (I could be wrong though)

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    Can someone please explain the benefits of running a PUSHed RP3 on a Motolite? I have a RP23 on my brand new Motolite and I never use the pro-pedal on it: The bike pedals perfectly well without it, so what is the point of the PUSH upgrade?

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    Thanks Crisillo (damn, I need to start spell checking and proof reading my posts before submitting them),
    The 130 detent I referred to is actually the 140mm detent. There are positive detents for the 100 and 120 positions but there is just a stop where the 140 position is. I definitely get the correct amount of travel in each position. The thing I love is no more twisting and twisting while trying to steer the bike with one hand. Just reach down, flick, and go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey74
    Can someone please explain the benefits of running a PUSHed RP3 on a Motolite? I have a RP23 on my brand new Motolite and I never use the pro-pedal on it: The bike pedals perfectly well without it, so what is the point of the PUSH upgrade?

    If I'm not mistaken, Push does more than just add platform...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    If I'm not mistaken, Push does more than just add platform...
    I've heard Fox designs its suspension systems around people weighing 180lbs. If you're much heavier or lighter than that I think the custom tuning is especially valuable.

    But, it's also important to get your shock serviced every once is awhile. The price difference between the standard service and the custom tuning is not that great, so I've always gone ahead and had them custom valve my shocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr
    I've heard Fox designs its suspension systems around people weighing 180lbs. If your much heavier or lighter than that I think the custom tuning is especially valuable.
    They use almost no compression damping. Very little compared to other brands. RP series is quite better, but once you break the platform, the compression damping is very little.

    So... yes, there's room for improvement and custom tuning would be good. Of course, ride the thing first, if it doesn't suits you, then upgrade.
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    Not at all wanting to hijak Chris's post...

    I want the RP23, purely becasue the pro pedal is either on or off, rather than the 3 way setting on the RP3.... I agree the sus is perfect. But in Spain here we have some real smooth fire trails, I want to be able to more or less lock it out. To haul a s s up the track...

    And in having to have it sent to Spain by Bob, I thought, might as well have it sorted by Push, as Duly mentions, it will not hurt to get it serviced and fully sorted, the extra is very little..... So it should be here shortly, have the tracking thingy majingy form Bob, so all go......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris9702l
    I just got a ride in on my new Talas fork. The thing just rocks! I love the three position travel adjust. 140mm is perfect for the Motolite going downhill. And the 100mm setting is perfect for going uphill. When I installed it I took two spacers out (previous fork was a 90 to 130 Talas) to make for the 100mm travel in the lower travel setting. Was very happy on the short ride that I took. Right now I am running the RP3 but I can't wait to throw the DHX back on and do some serious downhill shredding. Anybody else running the new Talas on the Motolite? After one ride I am all smiles. The only minor gripe I have is I don't feel a positive detent in the 140mm setting.

    Kudos to Bikerbob! Bob, you got the fork to me early but unfortunately the wife didn't want to get up from her nap to answer the mail man knock on the front door. So I had to spend the whole weekend thinking about the fork sitting at the post office.

    Chris
    I agree on both counts. Kudos to BikerBob for getting 3 ML frames and 3 07 Talas RLC out in no time at a great price. Also agree that the new Talas II adjust system is awesome. It makes travel adjustment so much easier and also quite visible as to which setting you are on. Very full proof IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Not at all wanting to hijak Chris's post...

    I want the RP23, purely becasue the pro pedal is either on or off, rather than the 3 way setting on the RP3.... I agree the sus is perfect. But in Spain here we have some real smooth fire trails, I want to be able to more or less lock it out. To haul a s s up the track...

    And in having to have it sent to Spain by Bob, I thought, might as well have it sorted by Push, as Duly mentions, it will not hurt to get it serviced and fully sorted, the extra is very little..... So it should be here shortly, have the tracking thingy majingy form Bob, so all go......

    like a whole lotta fonzzies
    Coming from RX with 5th element air stuffed with air to handle my girth, RP23 has been a seamless transition. I tried the 3 settings of propedal and like the 2nd position the best. I just leave it on at propedal setting unless I know I am going straight down

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    Quote Originally Posted by sungchang
    Coming from RX with 5th element air stuffed with air to handle my girth, RP23 has been a seamless transition. I tried the 3 settings of propedal and like the 2nd position the best. I just leave it on at propedal setting unless I know I am going straight down
    Well looky what Bob just emailed me today. Just to wet my appitite............... Thanks Bob, you area good man.

    Sungchung, will let you know in due course, thanks for your thoughts, we wil have to compare notes.
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    RP23 push'd, that's the first one I have seen. Let me know what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Well looky what Bob just emailed me today. Just to wet my appitite............... Thanks Bob, you area good man.

    Sungchung, will let you know in due course, thanks for your thoughts, we wil have to compare notes.
    I went from pushed RP3 to non pushed RP23. the RP23 on a motolite is a lethal XC weapon, stand and sprint and it is explosive ( even in the 5 inch mode). With the stock tuning on the RP23 and a low leverage bike like the Med/Large MLs. I think setting one is perfect for 225 pound me. If/when I was doing a 10 mile hill climb I go with setting #2. and It climbs like a magic hard tail that has crazy traction. The platform is so much more firmer then the stock RP3 or Pushed RP3. the OFF position is notably plusher too. And I turn it off anytime I'm going to go over 20mph. which I always did anyway.

    This last weekend at the downieville XC, I was passing bike walkers while I rode the loose parts of the climbs. Other racers cheered me on. That was rad! I only lost traction on one gravel part because I had to go off line to avoid a bike walker, and near the top I had to stop and walk because my HR was 190+ and holding. so I decided to walk just to be on the safe side.

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    Regarding the RP23, and weighting 180 #'s with all gear on, I found setting 1 more than enough for my purposes; certainly, settings 2 and 3 seem way "too stiff" to me. I don't know if any of you have noticed that RP23's sent by Titus are tunned to the lightest ProPedal setting, so I couldn't imagine how much damping could have the ones having the highest setting.

    By the way, I just finish building my ML and still trying both the RP23 and the DHX 5.0 Coil (yeap, I ordered the latter as well), so I'm spending a lot of time trying to find the sweet spot for the DHX, but right now it seems to me that RP23 is not that far (regarding plushness) from the DHX, at least when using a 30% sag. However, and keeping that RP23 sag, the DHX seems much more controlled when hitting square bumps.

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    Duly, Tavinho, sungchang..... Good report Duly as normal, I too am looking forward to this shock. For the real smooth mile after mile fire roads that are smooth, am looking forward to be able to lock it almost 100%. In saying that am not at all peaved with the way the RP3 works. Just cant wait to haul a s s up these fireroads even faster.......

    Will let you know, will be next weekend not this weekend. Bib was getting it away today your time. So should be here in say 4 days.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Duly, Tavinho, sungchang..... Good report Duly as normal, I too am looking forward to this shock. For the real smooth mile after mile fire roads that are smooth, am looking forward to be able to lock it almost 100%. In saying that am not at all peaved with the way the RP3 works. Just cant wait to haul a s s up these fireroads even faster.......

    Will let you know, will be next weekend not this weekend. Bib was getting it away today your time. So should be here in say 4 days.......................

    and the gang
    what about demo's report???

    actually I realy want to hear about the push version of the RP23.... I think my RP23 is perfect but if I was a lighter dude I might want the propedal turned down a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    what about demo's report???

    actually I realy want to hear about the push version of the RP23.... I think my RP23 is perfect but if I was a lighter dude I might want the propedal turned down a bit.
    Great post DS!

    What made you get the new shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    what about demo's report???

    actually I realy want to hear about the push version of the RP23.... I think my RP23 is perfect but if I was a lighter dude I might want the propedal turned down a bit.
    Sorry bro, my mistake, all the reports were good. Roll on Saturday morning for me. have Spanish lesson now, yay what fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr
    Great post DS!

    What made you get the new shock?

    You also noticed how great demo's post was... Wow I thought I was the only one!!!

    But seriously demo, that was an interesting post, and you've got me thinking about an Rp23 now. And about that liter rider stuff, sounds like you'll be able to tell us about that pretty soon with all this XC stuff you've been doing.

    Not that that's a goal of yours or anything, but I've found it gets pretty inevidable with 25 mile XC races, witch I've never done BTW... A 25mile XC race? that would suck! Mine were usually on the order of around 17.

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    Vamos Whafe!

    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Sorry bro, my mistake, all the reports were good. Roll on Saturday morning for me. have Spanish lesson now, yay what fun
    Tienes que practicar tu Español!!!

    (You gotta practice your Spanish!! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    Tienes que practicar tu Español!!!

    (You gotta practice your Spanish!! )

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    Todo bien Cris. Estoy en eso

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    Phew, it is hard compared to English in my opinion, then hey, I may just be as dumb as I feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Todo bien Cris. Estoy en eso

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    Phew, it is hard compared to English in my opinion, then hey, I may just be as dumb as I feel.
    Don't worry, it IS hard, particularly the grammar, but others are harder, like German which I still don't master, but manage well enough.

    Just keep at it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    Don't worry, it IS hard, particularly the grammar, but other are harder, like German which I still don't master, but manage well enough.

    Just keep at it!

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    Will do for sure, just getting into it, have only had 4 classes, so each day things click into place................Will just feel am making progress, I hear menitons that my work want to move me to Ventura, California...............mmmmmmmmmmm interesting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Will do for sure, just getting into it, have only had 4 classes, so each day things click into place................Will just feel am making progress, I hear menitons that my work want to move me to Ventura, California...............mmmmmmmmmmm interesting..

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    Nice! Don't worry, you can keep learning Spanish in Cali, it will be very handy there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    Nice! Don't worry, you can keep learing Spanish in Cali, it will be very handy there too

    -Cris
    So true, will be hugely handy at work there....... Yeah Ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Will do for sure, just getting into it, have only had 4 classes, so each day things click into place................Will just feel am making progress, I hear menitons that my work want to move me to Ventura, California...............mmmmmmmmmmm interesting..

    Cheers
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    What Cris said, Whafe... take it easy. Don't despair. We handle it so well because we were raised like this, but it's very difficult as any Romanic Language (Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian).
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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    Nice! Don't worry, you can keep learning Spanish in Cali, it will be very handy there too

    -Cris
    especially in Ventura, you will have lots of opportunity to practice on Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    I went from pushed RP3 to non pushed RP23. the RP23 on a motolite is a lethal XC weapon, stand and sprint and it is explosive ( even in the 5 inch mode). With the stock tuning on the RP23 and a low leverage bike like the Med/Large MLs. I think setting one is perfect for 225 pound me. If/when I was doing a 10 mile hill climb I go with setting #2. and It climbs like a magic hard tail that has crazy traction. The platform is so much more firmer then the stock RP3 or Pushed RP3. the OFF position is notably plusher too. And I turn it off anytime I'm going to go over 20mph. which I always did anyway.
    At my weight of 250#, I have only been mainly playing around with setting #2 and #3. Setting #1 felt a little too plush when I did try it, but then again I am coming from Racer-X with 5th Element which I pumped up enough air to feel like a hardtail. However, I'm beginning to embrace plushness For now setting #2 seems to work really well for me...maybe I should give #1 another chance.

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    demoforest is my favorite trail too, I hope to see you out there some time. I guess you are on a med? #2 might be the way to go for you. are you setting sag with the propedal off? I run 200 PSI in my RP23. what PSI do you run?


    duly and black...
    per my scale this mourning I'm 220. .... I'm in a wieght loss war with my buddy, he is 15 pounds lighter and doesn't belevie that I'll smoke him if I can get to the same weight... we will soon see. but I got to get him to eat more chips and bagle dogs...

    I blame the motolite/RP23 for getting me up and thru the downieville XC in under 4 hours. 32 guys in my class with 5 DNFs. I'm glad that I made it. I made the climb in 1 hour 45 min. the sport guys say they do it in 1:15 so I still got a ways to go. but I hope to be 20 pounds lighter next year.


    In regards why did I go to RP23, I barrowed one. rode it up limekiln and knew I had to have one for the downieville XC. but I climb with the fork and rear locked and the RP23 gives me a platform that works as good as a lock out but still gets insane traction. I do 3 "hardcore" hill climbs a week. so the RP23 is a no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    sung,
    demoforest is my favorite trail too, I hope to see you out there some time. I guess you are on a med? #2 might be the way to go for you. are you setting sag with the propedal off? I run 200 PSI in my RP23. what PSI do you run?
    Since I have 3 little kids (5, 3 and 1 yo), I am not getting much chance to get away to demo as much as I would like. It takes several hours for me to hit demo, and it's several hours that I am not usually getting, so I end up doing much more local rides at Fremont Older, Saratoga Gap, Almaden Quicksilver and ST. I have only been to demo twice so far, but I love that place.

    I'm 5'8" with short legs, and small fit me much better than the medium. The RP23 shock eye-to-eye seem to be shorter on the small. I am running 240 psi (might be 230psi as I was playing around with sag), and #2 seem to work really well for me. #1 felt a little soft. I like the feeling of #3 as it reminds of me a lot of the RX with 5th element air that I had.

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